Utah Jazz @ Los Angeles Lakers - Preseason game #1
Utah @ Los Angeles Lakers
Well, here it is, the moment you've all been waiting for. The first official game thread of the 2008-09 season for SLCDunk.com. The season doesn't start without it.
For those that are new to SLCDunk, game threads can't be beat. Comments are refreshed automatically. You see the comment as it's posted. It's a great way to see the response from Jazz fans to a Deron Williams dunk over Kobe or the pain felt as Harpring misses a layup.
I figured I'd open this one early seeing as it's the first game of the year and everyone would probably be a bit anxious to get commenting.
Up first of course are the Lakers of LA. Yes, the NBA schedulers were crafty when they set up a rematch of the second round WC playoffs. But other than satisfying your Jazz Jones, don't expect this this game to be a pre-cursor of the regular season. The starters won't be playing regular minutes and despite the Jazz players hanging out and playing for about a month, there will sure to be some rust.
That doesn't mean you can't be any less excited about the Jazz pounding the Lakers. That's never a bad thing.
But if everything plays out this season, this could be one of many meetings between the Jazz and Lakers, culminating with a matchup in the Western Conference Finals. Both teams are picked to finish the top of their divisions.
We'll see the return of Andrew Bynum. Could he have put the Lakers over the top last year? There's no doubt that they were outmanned on the inside against the Celtics. He could have been the difference for them. Memo could neutralize him a bit on offense by making Bynum guard him out on the three-point line. But it's likely the Lakers might throw someone else on Okur to keep Bynum inside on D.
We'll see if Boozer can shake his poor showing against the Lakers in the playoffs from last year. I just need a sign that he can be the Boozer we all need him to be against the Lakers. Having Odom, Gasol, and Bynum all being able to guard him, I need just a bit of reassurance that he'll be able to get it done. I'm not looking for a huge game of course, just that when the real games come, he's not going to get shut down again [UPDATE: Boozer is out].
Fisher seemed to have Williams' number at times last year. Look for those crafty veteran moves by Fisher to be thwarted by Williams. He's not going to have the sympathy this year for Derek that he's had in the past. Fisher will just become another bit of roadkill for the D-Train.
Wouldn't it be crazy if Kirilenko is the starting PF for the Jazz this time next year? After all of the crying, feuding, and potential salary cap killing contract, we could see AK quietly put together a great year. Then Boozer bolts and the Jazz are stuck without a starting PF? You'll say we have Millsap that could start there, but he's going to want a large contract. Are you going to give him a long term deal and commit to having him as your starter for the next 3-5 years? Wouldn't that be a almost exactly like what happened to AK when he got his deal? Instead, if Boozer leaves, AK could slide to the PF, Millsap could get more minutes at SF and backup AK, and the Jazz could draft a PF with the 2010 pick from the Knicks. AK is looking like some good insurance.
And finally we have Kobe v. the beefed up Brewer. The muscle will allow Ronnie to bang more with the 2s and 3s of the league. What's yet to be seen is if the added bulk affects his athleticism. I'm not suggesting anything at all here, but how does someone add on 20 lbs in just the offseason, and there's no talk about PEDs? But if a baseball player gains a little muscle, he must be on something (at least that was the talk before). Early returns are showing that Brewer's jump shot is better this year. If he can get a more consistent jump shot, yikes. He'll be scary. Nobody talks about it much, but I felt that Boozer's poor post-season was because of Ronnie. Kobe begged Ronnie to take an outside shot. Because Ronnie couldn't hit anything, Kobe could drape himself all over Boozer in the post and deny the entry pass. I'll give up the flashy dunks from Brewer for a few more jumpers.
And because it's the first pre-season game, we'll likely see some Kosta, Fess, and Almond. Fess is going to have to have a tremendous pre-season if he doesn't want to be in Orem all year. Koufos seems like he's already a Sloan favorite. And as we all know, once you're in the "Hard Worker" fraternity of Sloan U, you're almost guaranteed PT regardless of skill. And right now it looks like Fess is the Lamda, Lamda, Lamda to Sloan's Alpha Beta.
And finally part II, I'm happy to announce Dial the Dunk. Dial the Dunk is a new phone number for SLCDunk fans to call and leave their comments, frustrations, tips etc. So if you're stuck in traffic listening to the game and you can't be part of the game thread, call (801) 618-3336 and leave a message. I've got a pretty lame greeting up right now, so if anyone wants to create something better, let me know. I'll post the best of the Dial the Dunk messages throughout the game and others. So make sure to put the number on your speed dial.
The road to the title begins tonight.
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It begins
and I couldn’t be happier. See you all back here tonight.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 2:41 PM MDT
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I'm excited!
And since the House episode today is a repeat (sadly), I might be watching more of the game than I originally planned on.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 4:18 PM MDT
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My "preview" is up
fresh with a zing at Booze.
Go Jazz!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 4:38 PM MDT
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I won't be able to watch, unfortunately
I’ve got stuff to do tonight, but I’m definitely exciting for the return of Jazz basketball, even if it’s only preseason. I’m most interested in seeing if “the new and (hopefully) improved” Ronnie Brewer can make some outside shots as well as K-Kouf maybe doing well enough to earn some regular season minutes.
by Vromanite on
Oct 7, 2008 4:46 PM MDT
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is boozer being out the sign?
if boozer is gone after the season, i think PF by committee (with AK, sap, and even memo at times, depending on opposing team lineup) would more than suffice…
by moni on
Oct 7, 2008 5:49 PM MDT
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Also depending on...
how ready Fesenko/KK2 are ready to play next season, and how big ’Sap’s contract offers are after the season.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
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Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 5:50 PM MDT
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i'd rather have...
sap at 7 or 8 million a year than booz at 15…
by moni on
Oct 7, 2008 6:54 PM MDT
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Agreed
but if the Jazz are serious about not going over the cap, there is a slight chance that neither returns next year.
In which case passing on guys like Darrell Arthur, etc. in the draft to keep Harpring & Flop was utterly stupid.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 7:05 PM MDT
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It will be interesting to see...
The attitude that the Jazz bring to this game. We can’t learn a lot from this game, because the best players will play irregular minutes, but we will be able to see what kind of attitude the Jazz will play with. They need to step on the court with the attitude that they are always the best team. We will be able to see what the team feels about themselves a bit.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 6:21 PM MDT
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Not very well...
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:12 PM MDT
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No AK?
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:12 PM MDT
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He's coming off the bench tonight.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:13 PM MDT
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Ah
OK
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:14 PM MDT
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Sloan is doing some tinkering.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:15 PM MDT
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With Booze out...
AK to get some time at the 4?
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:16 PM MDT
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CJ!!!!
A much richer than last year CJ!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:14 PM MDT
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The place is empty
If it was in Utah, it would be packed.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:15 PM MDT
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It's Anaheim
If they want a team, they’re going to have to start packing the building every shot they get.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:16 PM MDT
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They have a team
The Anaheim Lakers of Los Angeles.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:18 PM MDT
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CJ with the slam!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:17 PM MDT
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Nice to see
that he didn’t just pull up for the jumper.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:18 PM MDT
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'Oop it!
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:20 PM MDT
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CJ
lookin good early. Love it.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 8:22 PM MDT
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Memo!
Shot falls early.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:24 PM MDT
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Bynum
is a baller. I hate to say it but I think he will make the Lakers even better this year. Dammit.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 8:25 PM MDT
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no foul there though
I see the refs are still never going to give him the benefit of any doubt at all, ever.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 8:26 PM MDT
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Brewer!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:27 PM MDT
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Still working hard
around the rim.
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The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:27 PM MDT
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Brewer still has hops.
Muscle hasn’t affected that.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:27 PM MDT
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Hmmm...
Missing free throws and close shots. Is this game 6?
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:28 PM MDT
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3-pointers not falling.
Not good.
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The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:28 PM MDT
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I've never seen so many kind rims
As I have for Fisher.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:29 PM MDT
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it's all part of the deal
you know, the one he signed with THE DEVIL.
Kidding!
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 8:30 PM MDT
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Flop!
Rejected by Kobe.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:33 PM MDT
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Koufos!
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:33 PM MDT
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Still the same Sloan...
too much Flop, and a ton of wasting the clock… even when you’re losing and there’s 50 seconds on the clock.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:34 PM MDT
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Flop still in.
WTF? What about Koufos & Fesenko?
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The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:37 PM MDT
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seriously
In all honesty, and I say this as somewhat of a Collins apologist (at least, I’m not as antagonistic as you, Biased), we know what Collins gives us. We don’t know what Kosta and Fes can really do for us. That’s what the preseason is for. Doesn’t make sense.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 8:40 PM MDT
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That's kinda why I'm confused.
We’ve seen Flop for ages.
Let’s see what the other kids have.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:41 PM MDT
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Jazz
still can’t defend the perimeter.
Or inside.
We’re f***ed.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:40 PM MDT
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Plus, they can't hit a shot
to save their life.
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The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:40 PM MDT
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Looking at the early stats, how are the Jazz not down 20?
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:41 PM MDT
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because of this
Turnovers: Utah 5, LA 11.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 8:43 PM MDT
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Fess is about to check in.
Will we have our first twin K towers siting?
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:44 PM MDT
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So that's still the NBA theme?
Where amazing happens? I figured it had been mocked enough. I guess they need more.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:45 PM MDT
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Yes!
Another year to mock it.
I didn’t do nearly enough last year.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:45 PM MDT
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I wanted to see Boozer's free throws
It looks like he’s made a couple of small changes from what I saw in the Olympics.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:45 PM MDT
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Man, it's nice to have a lot of three point shooters.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:49 PM MDT
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I like how
it’s basically just us three on here tonight. Where my Dunkers at?
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 8:54 PM MDT
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If you build it, they will come.
Or so they say.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:55 PM MDT
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by the way
I think I just inadvertently named us site denizens “Dunkers.”
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 8:58 PM MDT
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A football highlight without Harp?
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 8:56 PM MDT
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Shocking!
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:56 PM MDT
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One thing is for sure...
Fesenko will be challenging AK for the “most hair-do’s in a season” title this year.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:59 PM MDT
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I am DVRing the game.
I am a few minutes behind, but will catch up by halftime to join you guys.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 8:59 PM MDT
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I love that Arby's commercial.
“She’s hot.”
lol
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 9:00 PM MDT
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Who's #30?
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 9:04 PM MDT
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Just surfing another site and found this
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 9:10 PM MDT
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Where did you find it?
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:14 PM MDT
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A few observations.
The Good News: The Jazz are much deeper than the Lakers.
The Bad News: They may have too much length for us.
I do think that Brewer is committed on the defensive end and played well in his few minutes on Kobe. I also noticed that we played a lot more help defense with our starters in and it looked pretty good. We might be onto something. Also, I don’t think that not being able to beat the Lakers head to head would necessarily cost us for the best record. We struggle against big teams, like the Lakers and Blazers. We just need to dominate everyone else.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:14 PM MDT
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good analysis
and I hate you for beating me this week.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 9:16 PM MDT
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Sorry Man.
But I was on this weekend. 3-0.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:18 PM MDT
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The Reason we struggle against teams like the Lakers and Blazers is...
That they just pack it in and we don’t cut enough to get looks at the basket and we are forced to shoot over them. But they also take away the 3 pointers or force you to hit them. The best offensive teams combine high percentage looks like layups and dunks and 10 feet and in with good 3 point shooting. The Lakers force us to take 15 and 20 foot jumpers which are the worst shots in basketball sometimes, cause they aren’t as easy as layups and dunks and they aren’t worth as much as 3 pointers. 3 point shooting breaks games open.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:21 PM MDT
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Why don't the Clippers move to the Honda Center?
I would hate to share an arena, especially with your cross-town big brother.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 9:23 PM MDT
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And as crazy as it sounds...
Kobe can’t guard Ronnie Brewer.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:24 PM MDT
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I wonder
if he’s just not taking him, or the game, seriously
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 9:25 PM MDT
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Brewer moves even better without the ball.
He was good last year, but he even has more moves off ball screens and he is more aggressive. I really mean that Kobe can’t stay with him.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:26 PM MDT
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Ronnie's jumper
still needs a lot of work though.
The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 9:25 PM MDT
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wait, what?
I’m at work and only have half an eye on the game. He got hurt?
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 9:29 PM MDT
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Brewer!
Still dunking it hard
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The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".
by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 9:27 PM MDT
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Okur with the pick and roll. So athletic.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:28 PM MDT
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Really Good.
He should have a big year. I really like his low post defense one on one. I think Gasol made a couple lucky shots against him. And Fisher never misses against us.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:30 PM MDT
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Fisher pisses me off.
I can’t believe he just turned it on again and shot a great FG% when he went back to LA. He was playing out of position, but I don’t know how much you can attribute to that.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 9:32 PM MDT
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more indication
that he truly wasn’t all that happy here. There’s also the possibility that he was really concerned about his daughter and family all year. I dunno. I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it does seem rather serendipitous.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 9:34 PM MDT
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I love him as a person, but...
Talk about screwing over a franchise. I am actually glad the Jazz let him out of his contract, it was the right thing to do considering his situation, but going to the Lakers was low, although they weren’t good when he joined them (Pre-Gasol), but he screwed us over by all of the sudden playing his best ball against us. And I just set a record for using but and a comma 9 times in one sentence.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:36 PM MDT
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9 commas = weak sauce
you should see some of the comments I have to moderate. Then again those people are completely incoherent.
I'll make it.
by Shums on
Oct 7, 2008 9:37 PM MDT
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and bytheway
I want Jody Gennesy’s job. I am sure he is a nice guy, but his intros are killing me. Just tell us the story man.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:39 PM MDT
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Okur looks much more defined than he ever has.
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Miles looks great
and did anyone else notice how good Milsap was on help defense tonight?
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If he keeps playing like this
I don’t know how even Sloan can keep him on the bench.
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Who?
Miles or ’Sap?
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It's called
Ronnie Brewer, Matt Harpring, Kyle Korver, and probably a couple of the PGs at times also. And AK. And ’Sap, when Sloan puts him at the 3. And also Mo Almond.
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Oct 7, 2008 9:41 PM MDT
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Ronnie B
is a MAN. His skill around the rim is really beautiful.
I'll make it.
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Ronnie is trying to earn a couple places on ESPN's Top Ten.
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At this rate...
Ronnie will surpass superman for the most dunks in one season. I love that he just plans on dunking it every time. That’s what I meant by his aggressiveness improving.
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Oop again!
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Oct 7, 2008 9:40 PM MDT
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Ronnie will average 8 dunks a game and D WIll will average 14 assists a game.
Right now Deron has 8 assists in 20 minutes of play.
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Nice play there
to beat the trap
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Oct 7, 2008 9:44 PM MDT
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There is no doubt that at this point in the early season, these are the two best teams in the West.
I don’t even need to see the Rockets or the Hornets.
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Oct 7, 2008 9:47 PM MDT
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So...
how many games do the Jazz win at home this year?
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Which would mean a 22-19 record on the road would get us the first seed, I imagine
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Oct 7, 2008 9:51 PM MDT
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Good to see the refs are in mid-season form.
Kobe gets bailed out on a missed dunk.
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Horrible Call.
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even if he does
he’s not going to get the burn. At SG, he’s behind Brewer, Miles and Korver. At SF, he’s behind Kirilenko, Miles and Harp if healthy. We simply don’t have the minutes.
I'll make it.
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Oct 7, 2008 9:52 PM MDT
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It seems really likely
that Mo, Fesenko & Koufos all end up in the NBDL again.
J-Slow doesn’t seem to like having guys “inactive”, so they’ll probably be down getting minutes in the NBDL.
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I think one of those 3 will always be active on the bench.
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So
who’s inactive then?
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There's no room for him, but Almond is really smooth.
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I now agree with experts that we are the deepest team in the league.
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we are
if the right people get the minutes. Our only real weakness is size, because only Boozer, Okur and Millsap really belong in an NBA rotation at this point, and Boozer doesn’t play D and ’Sap is undersized and gets lame fouls.
Other than that, unquestionably, deepest team in the L.
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Brevin and Price
Could be the best PG backup tandem in the league. Is that something to be proud of?
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Yes.
Especially when you toss in the guy in front of them.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:01 PM MDT
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Does he become trade bait?
He could also become valuable if KK decides decides to bolt next summer.
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Oct 7, 2008 9:56 PM MDT
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Knight with a jumper!
I thought he couldn’t do that.
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He has already done more for the Jazz than Hart did.
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Oct 7, 2008 9:55 PM MDT
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Knight will be a great locker room presence for this team.
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Did you guys see this in Siler's blog?
In case you were wondering, Matt Harpring could sit out this entire season with an ankle injury and still collect the $6.5 million he’s owed for 2009-10. Harpring’s contract does have injury protections, but they all have to do with the right knee on which he’s had two microfracture surgeries over the years.
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Who else thinks our offense looks like it's in midseason form.
Great passing.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 9:57 PM MDT
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We're up to about 160 comments
For a pre-season game with 5 commenters. Not bad.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 10:03 PM MDT
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Kinda sad
actually.
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'Sap
is absolutely amazing.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:06 PM MDT
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just signed on
is it me or is brewer about 20 pounds heavier? and how can we get miles to do the same?
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Oct 7, 2008 10:06 PM MDT
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Great Point.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 10:07 PM MDT
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Miles has added some weight too
Not the 20 lbs Ronnie has, but he’s a bit bigger.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:07 PM MDT
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I don't think there is anything about this game that should discourage Jazz fans.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:07 PM MDT
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So far, so good
Bynum is scary.
Brewer looks great. He could be a real advantage for us this year. Korver being Korver looks good. Jury’s still out on CJ. He’s got to get some PT. Did AK play in this game at all? (I know he did, but it was a forgettable performance). I think Brewer is probably the most promising thing (other than the usual: D-Will, Memo, etc.).
Biggest disappointment: Fes. When and how can we cut him. I’d rather have Kevin Lyde frankly. I wonder if Lyde makes the pre-season/off-season squads every year just so Sloan can tell Fes, “Look at Kevin for &%$** sake!”
Leave the ball, will you George?
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Oct 7, 2008 10:07 PM MDT
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Say that
and sometime in the next 3 months, Fesenko will be pushing 300 pounds.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:08 PM MDT
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Sloan saying that
wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:09 PM MDT
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Hornacek
Did you hear the interview with Horny? He’d be a great coach for this team.
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by MTN on
Oct 7, 2008 10:10 PM MDT
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I expect he'll get a chance
If/when Sloan hangs them up.
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 10:12 PM MDT
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Almond
Trade-bait.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:11 PM MDT
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I agree.
He could play for a lot of teams in the league. Just not us.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:12 PM MDT
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It's funny cuz when we drafted Almond, we needed a shooting guard so badly and then it sparked Brewer or something and we traded for Korver and now we don't need Almond at all.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 10:13 PM MDT
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Surprised to still see Bynum in there.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:12 PM MDT
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He needs the minutes. he's not in "game shape" as they like to say.
I am not very worried about Bynum. I think Okur can guard him. He is not as good as Ming and Okur can handle him okay.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 10:14 PM MDT
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He's going to get better though.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:15 PM MDT
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The Jazz have looked solid
slow first half, but…
-they are fine on the boards.
-I’m loving the Price/Knight combo at the back-up PG spot.
-’Sap is awesome.
Brevin Knight can’t make FTs.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:12 PM MDT
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Isn't he a career 90% shooter?
by Basketball John on
Oct 7, 2008 10:13 PM MDT
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Probably
but he missed those 2.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:14 PM MDT
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Oh, and the offense is looking great
nice to see this early in the pre-season
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:14 PM MDT
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4th quarter
It’s church ball out there.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:13 PM MDT
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who do you all like better
Knight or price as the back up
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Oct 7, 2008 10:14 PM MDT
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Price for now...
we’ve seen what he can do longer.
I guess it could come down to the situation.
If you need a spark, you go Price.
If you just want someone to take care of the ball, you go Knight.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:15 PM MDT
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Right answer Utes fan.
Price when we need him to score.
Knight when we have other scorers who just need a distributor.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 10:17 PM MDT
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As it is...
we’ve seen a good half-season of Price.
As for Knight… the last “slow it down, can’t shoot a jumper” guy we had was Hart… and we all know how that turned out.
It’ll take a bit for Knight to prove himself, but after that, we’re set for the season, no matter who comes in.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:18 PM MDT
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what about on D?
Leave the ball, will you George?
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Oct 7, 2008 10:19 PM MDT
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Haven't seen much of Knight.
Price is active… occasionally it leads to a fast-break, occasionally he gets burned.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:20 PM MDT
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Price has the hops though (ask Luke Walton)
for some reason… I don’t see Knight pulling off a block like that.
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by UtesFan89 on
Oct 7, 2008 10:21 PM MDT
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Brevin Knight.
He isn’t flashy at all, but watch him. He always makes the right decision and the right pass.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 10:15 PM MDT
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Price for fast pace
I like price’s energy but knight definitely plays confident out there
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Oct 7, 2008 10:16 PM MDT
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Fesenko
already in the doghouse?
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Seems so
Especially with Lyde getting a ton of minutes.
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Last year he had the most promise.
This year it is Almond.
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by clarkpojo on
Oct 7, 2008 10:18 PM MDT
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Definitely
I wish we could see more of what Koufas can do. I hear he has worked his butt off this summer
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Oct 7, 2008 10:19 PM MDT
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He's out right now with a strained hammy.
Pulled up at the end of the second quarter.
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Boozer's fault
been hanging around boozer too much
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Oct 7, 2008 10:21 PM MDT
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And Koufos looked like he knows what he is doing out there. Good stuff.
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We have 13 guys on our team who would start for the OKC thunder or Memphis Grizzlies.
Just kidding, but I am amazed at how many good players we have.
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Starters for sure
plus… Korver. CJ maybe. ’Sap for sure. Price/Knight? Mo?
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Oct 7, 2008 10:22 PM MDT
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That type of play by Ronnie
that’s what I was talking about.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:23 PM MDT
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offense ahead of schedule?
whats everyone’s take on our offensive standing? I think we are looking a lot sharper out there. At least compared to last year
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Oct 7, 2008 10:24 PM MDT
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I think so.
I was surprised (in a good way) by how well the offense looked in the 2nd half.
Nice job running the offense, finding the open guy, cutting to the hoop, etc.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:25 PM MDT
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Second half was definitely better than the first.
The offense will be there most nights. I want to see a huge D this year.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:26 PM MDT
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Yeah...
if the team can even play a bit of D… watch out!
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Good Night all
Work starts at 7am. Great to have our team back in action. PEace.
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Night.
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He headed back to Europe didn't he?
I think he’s in Turkey.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:28 PM MDT
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I love beating the lakers
I dont care if its preseason. I hate the lakers. good night all
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Agreed.
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Game!
99-90, Jazz win!
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Here is a lengthy comment but,
Has anyone else noticed that the Jazz can be up by 16 or so at the end of 3 and Sloan sits all of our starters for the first 4 minutes and the other team comes back or sticks around, when if we had just kept our starters and pushed the lead to 20 or so with 7 minutes left the other team would have given up and our starters could sit the rest of the game? That is the one thing that has bothered me about Sloan. But with a guy like Knight, I think our bench will be a little better.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:27 PM MDT
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Agreed.
And very frustrating. I hope Knight can help that… bring some solid veteran presence to help keep things from getting out of hand.
Or maybe Sloan realizes and chang…. nah, never mind that.
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Oct 7, 2008 10:29 PM MDT
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I'm a Sloan supporter
But his rotations kill me. Especially when he takes Deron out at 3:00 in the first quarter regardless of the situation. He doesn’t need to save his knees like he did with Stockton.
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His biggest negatives...
1. rotations (as you mentioned)
2. not realizing the game situation (as clarkpojo mentioned)
Get those settled, and we’re set until J-Slow decides he’s had enough (and not in the Brett Favre way).
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i'm also a sloan supporter...
and while i’m not a fan of his set rotation right now, i am grateful that it allowed me to watch stock play for (likely) at least several more years than i would’ve been able to otherwise.
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agreed
I think it would be nice if he would at least try some different things with his game strategy
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Thanks for coming everyone`
See you all on Thursday. Tell your friends.
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Peace.
Enjoyed this… more of the same then!
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