Utah Jazz @ Cleveland Cavaliers - Game Thread - LeBron goes for 85
by Basketball John on Nov 15, 2008 4:14 PM MST
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Utah Jazz at Cleveland Cavaliers, Nov 15, 2008 5:30 PM MST
Here's who's out again,
Except Harp is out for real this time. Collins is likely an emergency player.
Tell me, who guards LeBron tonight? Do the Cavs pull a Wilt Chamberlin and just give him the ball on every possession (you know, a little more than usual)?
Maybe I'm having delusions of grandeur, but I think we see a more competitive team tonight from the Jazz. They play to the level of their opponent, so we should see them pick things up.
But to have a chance, the Jazz have to run the offense and stop taking so many jumpers. I've said before, you know when they're running it right when everyone is getting layups off picks.
And even thought they should have beaten Charlotte last night, maybe it's not fair to heap too much upon them when they're missing three of their core players. It makes rotations that much tougher and it causes mismatches on both ends of the court.
We're going to have a huge mismatch tonight when we face the King. No one has anyone that can guard him anyway. But defending him tonight will be akin to throwing a water ballon on a forest fire.
But before you get too down, here's Danielle's pep speech.
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I'd like to see C.J. get more minutes.
He’s looked really good from what I’ve seen the last couple of games. Stick him on Lebron and see if he can contain The King.
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by Patrick517 on Nov 15, 2008 4:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Big time disagree.
He hit some shots against the Wizards, but he hasn’t played better than okay defense yet this season. It kills us. I voted for 16-25 points, but he will have about 21 assists. I think the Jazz will double and triple team Lebron tonight and if the costars play well, we probably won’t be able to win.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 5:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But you have to make big Z, Szczerbiak, and West and Mo Williams beat us.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 5:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LeBron's due for a big night
I think he’ll make a living at the foul line, given how the Jazz are wont to keep their hands to themselves.
by Ben Q Rock on Nov 15, 2008 5:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
this is already ugly
bah. I’m switching to the Utes when their game starts.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 5:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
A loooooong night.
Apparently, Zydrunas Ilgauskas is impossible to guard. and the fact Collins was the first off the bench makes me sick.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 5:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
who isn't impossible to guard?
especially when you insist on pushing the opposing player in the back and racking up loose ball fouls
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 5:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
When opposing teams put their best defender on Brewer, you would think Boozer could step up.
But he hasn’t yet.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 5:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
he's starting to
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 5:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
his fumbly hands are so awful they make me want to cry
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fumblyhands
would be a good band name.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 5:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It was my urging that made him start to step up.
Without Knight and most importantly Deron on the floor, no one makes good passes to Brewer. His cuts get him open looks if the passer makes the timely pass. But Collins and Price never do this season.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 5:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
collins and almond both getting play in the first quarter
this spell doom
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 6:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
At least maybe all the couch seat coaches will shut up about Sloan needing to play Almond.
"He could score 50. Waaah. We need scoring. Almond is the answer. Waaah.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
they won't shut up as long as he makes 1 3pt in 10 tries
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 6:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What's Almond doing?
I think they need to play him just because we have no other options.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 6:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Arguably
he’s not much better of an option.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 6:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think cj should be getting as many minutes as he does
but he’s definitely better than almond
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 6:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
is Korver even going to play tonight?
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It drives me crazy. I'm sorry. It is one of my pet peeves about Jazz fans.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They listed Eric Snow as an injured Cavalier, but last I saw, he was an analyst on NBA TV right now.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
And appearing on
Real Housewives of Atlanta with his wife.
Why would they be bases in Atlanta if he ‘plays’ in Cleveland?
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 15, 2008 6:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this is the kind of thing ronnie b should be d oing
steal + dunk
not launching long Js
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 6:04 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I know I have a man crush on Brewer and am biased, but
Brewer is like 7th on the list of players to blame for our problems. And Price’s shot was sweet.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
"List of Players to Blame for Our Problems*"
new fanshot
*derrick rose should be on the list
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 6:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i think ronnie p should be shooting less, but at least he makes the end of the quarter shots unlike hart ha
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 6:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Almond
today is his day to show that he deserves a shot.
Let’s see how he plays.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 6:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
let's hope that he shows it
not by shooting as many times as he can
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 6:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
UtesFan
Just wanted you to know, there is nothing wrong with thinking Almond can save this team. Pay no attention to my previous comments.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
he can save the team. Especially with us not taking his option and all. I just think he’s not much different from the alternatives (major minutes for No Knees or CJ). Someone needs to step up… I really don’t care who.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 6:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He's also trade bait. Hope he plays great tonight.
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by MTN on Nov 15, 2008 6:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
And One on Millsap.
The poor guy can’t buy a call.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Twice.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
definition of Paul Millsap:
can’t buy a call.
I swear, he does less to get fouls called on him, and takes more abuse offensively with no whistle, than anyone in the league. If he got even a slightly less raw deal from the refs, he’d hit 15 and 10 a night, easy.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 6:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this could be the happiest we are tonight
let’s relish the moment
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 15, 2008 6:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I smell a good game, if not a victory.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And even though things are bleak now without all our best players...
This stretch is going to do wonders for Koufos in the long run. We will need him.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
On the other side...
Utes already up 7-0.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 6:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
KK making his first shot
is actually a curse.
by pmannion on Nov 15, 2008 6:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That was not a foul on James.
Give me a break. And another thing. Watch Chris Paul play. If a big guy picks him up on a pick and roll he leans into the guy and throws his head back like he got punched in the face and he gets a foul call everytime.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
why a technical foul shot?
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:26 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Bullcrap foul call on Almond.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:27 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't you?
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 6:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But koufos continues to amaze on the defensive end. he challenges everything.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The only thing worse
Would be if Pace Mannion was commentator fir the while game. Sorry.
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 15, 2008 6:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ilgauskas looks like the love child of Moby and Voldemort.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'm listening to the Cavs announcers.
And they are worse than the Jazz announcers even.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Knight needs to learn
that fouling doesn’t count as D. Even if the rest of the team does it.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 6:31 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
if the team captain does it...
what’s the newcomer to do?
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 6:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You HAVE to guard James.
It isn’t Sloan who chooses not to guard the three point shot as much as it’s our players who choose not to guard the 3.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:31 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
RONNIE P
should take every end-of-period shot.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 6:41 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
My NBA feed must be about 15 seconds behind.
The Dagger!
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Aztecs blow.
I am glad BYU won today, cuz next week is going to be FANtastic.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't have minded a BYU loss
just because it’s BYU.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 7:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
come on man
don’t be That Guy.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
As a Utes fan, seeing BYU losing is just as awesome as beating a 1-loss BYU team at the end. A win over BYU is a win over BYU… no matter their record.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 7:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
the second part of that statement
I totally understand. the first part always bugs me. but I’ll leave it at that.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry to bring it up, everyone :)
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Michigan loss sucks
Because it discounts the Utes win just a bit.
by Basketball John on Nov 15, 2008 7:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
then again
the Oregon State win is looking better by the week.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The scoring is very well distributed.
Nice work so far guys. Just keep Lebron from rolling and we might have a chance in this game.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Although the fact that Lebron scored 17 while not really looking like he was trying, is disconcerting.
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by clarkpojo on Nov 15, 2008 6:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think it was possible...
…to have something repeated more than Harpring as a football player. Were you guys aware Mo Williams was a former Jazz man?
by Basketball John on Nov 15, 2008 7:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Are the Jazz going to regret not signing Almond?
by Basketball John on Nov 15, 2008 7:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
which players have they really, truly regretted not signing in the past?
they’ve been pretty good about this
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 7:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if they've regretted past moves too much, but...
but at the time, letting Mo Williams go looked dumb (and right after, with Arroyo being traded).
And Pavlovic after 1 season… he’s developed with the Cavs.
Raja Bell.
DeShawn Stevenson developed, at least defensively.
etc.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 7:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't really "regret" not having any of those players on our team...
if we still had mo will we wouldn’t have dwill
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 7:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd prefer
Bell or Stevenson or Pavlovic to CJ, No Knees & even Almond I think.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 7:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
stevenson is too inconsistent for my tastes
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 7:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He's better on D
than our backups though.
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 7:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Cavs take the lead
uncool, guys.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Lebron gets the foul call
After the refs see that he missed the shot.
by Basketball John on Nov 15, 2008 7:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
if other teams deliberately beat the crap out of Paulie when he has the ball because they know there’s a good chance they he won’t get the call.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:25 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
you've got to think there are a good number of coaches out there that have realized this
and strategize around it
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 7:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not give up a transition bucket here to end the period.
by Basketball John on Nov 15, 2008 7:26 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
maybe it's time to shake things up
and bring the second unit in to start the third quarter
by moni on Nov 15, 2008 7:31 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The Koof!
nice finish. Liked his reaction too. Fired up.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Blaspheme
LeBron with the offensive foul?
by Basketball John on Nov 15, 2008 7:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Does Millsap have health insurance?
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by MTN on Nov 15, 2008 7:39 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I 'knew' this was going to happen.
They would get my hopes up and then eventually collapse. WHY oh WHY?
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 15, 2008 7:41 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
good crap
I had to reboot my computer, come back online and we’re down 11. Thanks, guys.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Well,
I’m calling it. See ya Monday night…
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 15, 2008 7:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
frickin' A
That’s it. Over to the RSL game.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'm switching to ESPN2 to watch Vanderbilt Football. Go Dores!
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by MTN on Nov 15, 2008 7:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
No ESPN here
but sure, why not. Go ’Dores!
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 7:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We needed more of Price's shooting today.
J-Slo seems to be really bad at finding out who’s hot and letting them play THAT SAME GAME!
by UtesFan89 on Nov 15, 2008 7:53 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
BULL HONKY
I feel so bad for Paul Millsap. This game is Exhibit A for how badly he gets screwed.
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by Shums on Nov 15, 2008 7:54 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
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