Phoenix Suns @ Utah Jazz - Game Thread - FU Shaq Or is that Shaq FU?
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:00 PM MST
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Phoenix Suns at Utah Jazz, Nov 17, 2008 7:00 PM MST
Memo is back and his father is progressing thankfully. But he won't play because the plane ride tweaked his back. If I were the Jazz owner, I would have paid for a charter that Memo could have slept in the whole way. Flying is bad enough. I can't imagine an NBA player having to fly international, even in first class. Collins gets the go because Shaq is in the ESA. From the Trib,
I've played against him for the past couple years," Collins said, "and bodied up with him and see if I can go out there and just frustrate him a little bit, just try and get him off to a slow start. If I can pick up some fouls against him, I will.
How's that working out? Not so well as Shaq has pretty much owned Collins. We'll see Kosta though and Fess has six fouls to throw at the Diesel.
But if Shaq wants to fight Collins and Harp tonight, I'm down with that.
Williams will be out again. And AK is expected to be back.
I'm not optimistic about this game, but crazier things have happened.
Sorry the game thread is late.
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The Jazz announcers
seem to think that Flop has done amazing against Shaq.
I guess you only see what you want to see, no?
God...
over/under on the number of times Flop’s past “successes” against the Fat Cactus are brought up?
I guess it's just you and me.
CJ’s hot start was sort of bad for the team, because everyone else stopped playing hard and is now just watching CJ do the work. Our offense is so inefficient lately.
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Where is everyone?
Bell misses a wide-open 3, and the Suns get the board over 4 Jazz guys. And then there, Koufos misses a J, the Suns mishandle the ball, and no Jazz player is in the right half of the court…
I love the rookie
Freakin’ Koufus is impressing me. Still a little raw, but he gives us an inside presence that we lack. I like his game.
That was NOT goal tending to end the quarter by Stoudemire.
Millsap abusing Amare.
Plus he gets contact and no foul call.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:41 PM MST reply actions
Harp running the point on a fast break.
That’s never good.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:44 PM MST reply actions
Our offense is so inefficient right now.
We don’t get layups, dunks and free throws anymore. Tons of long 2 pointers, the worst shot in the game. Even when CJ was hot, he wasn’t taking “good” shots. It is going to kill our team. Price is the worst culprit.
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Yeah, but he was taking them
and he was, for the most part, setting up and taking them in rhythm (save for the airball). You can’t ask for much else… if he drives in, Fat Cactus or Amare kill him.
They must have heard you.
The last couple of minutes have looked good.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:51 PM MST up reply actions
This is Jazz basketball.
Fast breaks, great passes, and timely shooting.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:51 PM MST reply actions
Freak Harp.
Take yourself out of the game.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:54 PM MST reply actions
Damnit Booner
Did you seriously just say, “Did you know that Harpring was a football player?” Really? Come on.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:55 PM MST reply actions
Wow
Those two free throws from Booze weren’t even close.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:57 PM MST reply actions
He's played 12 minutes
therefore, if he played the rest of the half, J-Slo would only have him for 3 minutes in the 2nd half.
You know… 18 minutes max for him.
I wouldn't mind him being in, but who do you put him in for?
It is our defense that has kicked it up a notch. And everyone on the court is playing good defense together.
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Forget the mean home crowd, the altitude, and all.
We just play harder at home for some reason. I don’t understand it. We need to play hard always.
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Man,
The Suns like to grab the jersey a lot.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:02 PM MST reply actions
Amare with 3 fouls!
Huge. Now, if they take him out and bring in someone a bit shorter, we take out Booze & bring in CJ.
Stupid foul on Korver
He had no shot at doing anything and just gave Diaw a FT.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:08 PM MST reply actions
They are killing us on defense with sharp cuts to the hoop.
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I want to see the photo of Korver leaving his feet.
I’m sure it looks like the others.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:10 PM MST reply actions
CJ needs to figure out the defensive game if he ever wants to make a real impact.
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He is one of the most talented offensive players on our team really, but look at Brewer and Koufos. They started with defense.
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Can't ask for too much more
Maybe some more made free throws.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:14 PM MST reply actions
I don't mean to harp on the issue, but we started coming back when Millsap and AK came in and they both attack the rim every play.
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Harpring and Collins have no right to play. Ever. I don't care who the matchups are.
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FYI...
The Where Amazing Happens song is REALLY long. Check this link out during halftime…
http://www.last.fm/music/Carly+Comando/_/Everyday
It’s just that every commercial on League Pass is one of those (or this stupid Fathead commercial).
so the game is on TV here..
and even the chinese commentators, who by the way are completely terrible, had to throw in “harpring is a former football player”
Are they just translating the KJZZ broadcast?
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:29 PM MST up reply actions
i seriously doubt they know any english at all
they’re mispronouncing everyone’s names and can’t seem to tell black people apart
oh and i don’t know if anyone else was listening to the pre-game show on kfan but they interviewed shaq and asked him what’s different about collins as opposed to other centers.
shaq’s response: he likes to bang.
Nash got the foul
And I think Brevin ran into his own player.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:34 PM MST reply actions
Almost every foul on Nash tonight has been a horrible call.
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He needs to learn to get to the hoop and not only rely on his sweet stroke.
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They are listening to you. CJ drives
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:37 PM MST up reply actions
I like Nash.
And I think he deserved both of his MVP awards. That is what CJ needs to do.
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The problem with having Flop on the court
he can’t shoot.
he can’t attack Shaq and his 4 fouls.
he can’t get a board over Shaq.
he can’t defend Shaq (he’s picking up his fouls though).
We only have 4 guys on offense… that hurts when Booze is backing in and looking for someone to pass too.
I figured out why CJ doesn't play as much
He’s more one-on-one than Sloan likes. He’s feeling it, but dribbling around like that ticks Sloan off.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:41 PM MST reply actions
Oh Hey everyone
so I read through the comments of the first half and I am very glad that Flop started and got straight to work.
And Jerry had better let CJ play the entire second half
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 8:54 PM MST reply actions
Doesn't Booze know
That the refs are looking at him specifically for a push in the back? Does he foul any other way?
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions
I wish he could do updates while at the game
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
sorry
next time I will text one of you while I’m there with updates. Hopefully next time I’m not sitting next to a dude who’s on his twelfth beer while his kid looks on in horror and starts begging him not to buy any more and voicing worries about dying on the way home.
"SHOCK THE WORLD!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!"
Sorry to hear
that you got such a crummy seat :P
I'm just playing.
Your experience sounds like it should be a post in and of itself. Any pics?
by Basketball John on Nov 18, 2008 2:05 PM MST up reply actions
Millsap gets hammered every night
And doesn’t get jack called.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:59 PM MST reply actions
If J-Slo had half the brains
others say he has, he’d send tapes in to the league after every game.
And when that doesn’t work, “accidentally” leak it to the media.
I keep waiting for Derin to come off the bench.
anyone else? I wonder how long until he’s back at full strength
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 9:00 PM MST reply actions
Sorry, I meant Deron
I’m doing this from my phone
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
We haven't heard any real updates for a few days.
Either they don’t know (which isn’t good) or they don’t want to say.
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
If Harpring or Collins never played again, I'd be satisfied...
…same with Hart for that matter. That dude was horrible.
Hart
At least he stayed on the bench where he belonged
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 9:06 PM MST up reply actions
That wasn't a travel on Shaq
That was a foul! Call it ref!
by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 9:10 PM MST reply actions
I remember...
…hearing someone say they brought him in in case Williams turns an ankle and is out for a week or two. I was like, yeah, he’ll play those 4 min/game. Yeah, glad that worked out.
KK has made some bad decisions in this game?
And what’s up with his FT%? I picked him for my fantasy team to help me win in the FT catagory.
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 9:14 PM MST reply actions
That
was the Clippers.
We have 2 more 5-game Eastern Conference road-game swings left. Can’t go 1-4 on either of those.
I'm making a prediction
Utah jazz. Your NBA champs this year.
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 9:17 PM MST reply actions
Since you asked: Booze
Sorry I haven’t been in here chatting, I’ve been bouncing between watching the game and using the ESPN trade machine to get rid of Harp and Flop.
I liked the two of them to Chicago for Drew Gooden
because even if he doesn’t really work out well as a player his $7M contract expires after this year, which obviously could be helpful in resigning guys and still staying under the luxury tax.
But really, the point is to just get Harp and Collins out of here. They play horrible yet still steal minutes from guys like CJ and Kosta.
And I would trade Harpring for nothing in return a la Camby. Just to free up roster space.
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AK has played like a max contract player tonight. He has changed the game with his energy.
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whoever I play in the fantasy league this week..
be warned, I will OWN you after this game
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 9:20 PM MST reply actions
He looks like he is in some pain. I agree. Bring in Koufos.
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Did you hear Boozer yell, "shoot it Kyle" when Korver was wide open underneath?
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I just thought it sounded funny. And seriously, you are wide open, shoot it.
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He is always talking on the court. It cracks me up.
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We needed it for a few reasons, but it is good to win without Deron, so he doesn't feel like he needs to rush back.
again.
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He didn't get a suspension, just an ejection. Garnett got suspended though.
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getting tossed is almost as bad as a suspension. He didn't deserve it either.
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What the hell is Steve Brown talking about?
“There are nights and then there are nights. This was one of them”
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Shums is reporting from the game:
“I loved the noise when AK got back to back blocks. I can’t believe how CJ played tonight. Tha’s what he can do offensively when he has confidence. He’s still not a great defender. We got some favorable calls in the 2nd which helped. If Nash isn’t in foul trouble the whole game we probably don’t win. Not impressed with the suns overall.”
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This is the perfect schedule for having Deron out.
Home with Milwaukee and then at SA and Memphis. Then 4 home games against average to crappy teams. We should win most, if not all of those games, even without Deron. Having AK back helps a lot.
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ManSap in ACTION!
And then AK nails him twice more!
Awsome game, BBJ, your blog is taking off like, well like dWill at the top of the key!
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