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Phoenix Suns @ Utah Jazz - Game Thread - FU Shaq Or is that Shaq FU?

Phoenix Suns at Utah Jazz, Nov 17, 2008 7:00 PM MST


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Memo is back and his father is progressing thankfully.  But he won't play because the plane ride tweaked his back.  If I were the Jazz owner, I would have paid for a charter that Memo could have slept in the whole way.  Flying is bad enough.  I can't imagine an NBA player having to fly international, even in first class.  Collins gets the go because Shaq is in the ESA.  From the Trib,

I've played against him for the past couple years," Collins said, "and bodied up with him and see if I can go out there and just frustrate him a little bit, just try and get him off to a slow start. If I can pick up some fouls against him, I will.

How's that working out?  Not so well as Shaq has pretty much owned Collins.  We'll see Kosta though and Fess has six fouls to throw at the Diesel.

But if Shaq wants to fight Collins and Harp tonight, I'm down with that.

Williams will be out again.  And AK is expected to be back.

I'm not optimistic about this game, but crazier things have happened.

Sorry the game thread is late.

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The Jazz announcers

seem to think that Flop has done amazing against Shaq.

I guess you only see what you want to see, no?

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:04 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

God...

over/under on the number of times Flop’s past “successes” against the Fat Cactus are brought up?

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

You don't call him flop for nothing.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 7:12 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Kind of a block.

More like a bitch slap.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 7:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.

Just had to take that one.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 7:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And Stoudemire was definitely out of bounds.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 7:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

CJ

starts 3-3 (1-1 from long), and 2-2 from the line.

Over/under on his minutes…… 20?

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:18 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Flop

doing his “job”…

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

WTF

Flop???

You can’t shoot.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:20 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I guess it's just you and me.

CJ’s hot start was sort of bad for the team, because everyone else stopped playing hard and is now just watching CJ do the work. Our offense is so inefficient lately.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 7:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Though our offense has been kinda stagnant as of late anyways.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Where is everyone?

Bell misses a wide-open 3, and the Suns get the board over 4 Jazz guys. And then there, Koufos misses a J, the Suns mishandle the ball, and no Jazz player is in the right half of the court…

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I love the rookie

Freakin’ Koufus is impressing me. Still a little raw, but he gives us an inside presence that we lack. I like his game.

That was NOT goal tending to end the quarter by Stoudemire.

by P_Dizzle on Nov 17, 2008 7:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Korver needs to fix his wrist. Fast.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 7:45 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Our offense is so inefficient right now.

We don’t get layups, dunks and free throws anymore. Tons of long 2 pointers, the worst shot in the game. Even when CJ was hot, he wasn’t taking “good” shots. It is going to kill our team. Price is the worst culprit.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 7:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but he was taking them

and he was, for the most part, setting up and taking them in rhythm (save for the airball). You can’t ask for much else… if he drives in, Fat Cactus or Amare kill him.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Harpring and now Korver are a close second.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 7:47 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Mandatory

“did you know he’s a football player” comment.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Damnit Booner

Did you seriously just say, “Did you know that Harpring was a football player?” Really? Come on.

by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Knight!

His spot is right there on the right side.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 7:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Those two free throws from Booze weren’t even close.

by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 7:57 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

He is pressing badly.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 7:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He's played 12 minutes

therefore, if he played the rest of the half, J-Slo would only have him for 3 minutes in the 2nd half.

You know… 18 minutes max for him.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 8:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind him being in, but who do you put him in for?

It is our defense that has kicked it up a notch. And everyone on the court is playing good defense together.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 8:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Forget the mean home crowd, the altitude, and all.

We just play harder at home for some reason. I don’t understand it. We need to play hard always.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 8:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Booze

is absolutely stinking it up.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 8:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

His worst game of the season.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 8:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol...

Why is Thurl Bailey wearing a bulletproof vest?

by rxmike12 on Nov 17, 2008 8:05 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

At least AK is shooting free throws well.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 8:06 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Amare with 3 fouls!

Huge. Now, if they take him out and bring in someone a bit shorter, we take out Booze & bring in CJ.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 8:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

WTH

Korver? You’re not going to get the ball there. Ever. So why try that?

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 8:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Stupid foul on Korver

He had no shot at doing anything and just gave Diaw a FT.

by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

They are killing us on defense with sharp cuts to the hoop.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 8:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Booze!

He can yell “And one!” now

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 8:13 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

At the half...

…I’ll take up 3! That was a pretty ugly 57-point offensive half.

by rxmike12 on Nov 17, 2008 8:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

And our defense improved.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 8:20 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

FYI...

The Where Amazing Happens song is REALLY long. Check this link out during halftime…

http://www.last.fm/music/Carly+Comando/_/Everyday

It’s just that every commercial on League Pass is one of those (or this stupid Fathead commercial).

by rxmike12 on Nov 17, 2008 8:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

so the game is on TV here..

and even the chinese commentators, who by the way are completely terrible, had to throw in “harpring is a former football player”

by moni on Nov 17, 2008 8:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

oh and i don’t know if anyone else was listening to the pre-game show on kfan but they interviewed shaq and asked him what’s different about collins as opposed to other centers.

shaq’s response: he likes to bang.

by moni on Nov 17, 2008 8:31 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I like Nash.

And I think he deserved both of his MVP awards. That is what CJ needs to do.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 8:37 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

he's looking especially sick

because he’s being defended (and i use the term loosely) by boozer

by moni on Nov 17, 2008 8:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He is pretty dominating though...

He can basically get any shot he wants…

by rxmike12 on Nov 17, 2008 8:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I figured out why CJ doesn't play as much

He’s more one-on-one than Sloan likes. He’s feeling it, but dribbling around like that ticks Sloan off.

by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

that can’t be good for him.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 8:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

For sure.

Sloan has said something to the effect of “we have guys trying to do it by themselves” like the last 3 post game interviews. I think he means Cj and to a degree Ronnie Brewer late in the games.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Go to Booze now

Shaq is on him.

Attack. Attack. Attack.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 8:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oh Hey everyone

so I read through the comments of the first half and I am very glad that Flop started and got straight to work.

And Jerry had better let CJ play the entire second half

by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 8:54 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't Booze know

That the refs are looking at him specifically for a push in the back? Does he foul any other way?

by Basketball John on Nov 17, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

sorry

next time I will text one of you while I’m there with updates. Hopefully next time I’m not sitting next to a dude who’s on his twelfth beer while his kid looks on in horror and starts begging him not to buy any more and voicing worries about dying on the way home.

"SHOCK THE WORLD!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!"

by Shums on Nov 17, 2008 10:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to hear

that you got such a crummy seat :P

by MelMan2002 on Nov 18, 2008 1:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just playing.

Your experience sounds like it should be a post in and of itself. Any pics?

by Basketball John on Nov 18, 2008 2:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Shit.

Now this is turning to hell.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 8:58 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

If J-Slo had half the brains

others say he has, he’d send tapes in to the league after every game.

And when that doesn’t work, “accidentally” leak it to the media.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 9:00 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Hart

At least he stayed on the bench where he belonged

by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 9:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Knight!

I’m so glad we got him for Hart.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I remember...

…hearing someone say they brought him in in case Williams turns an ankle and is out for a week or two. I was like, yeah, he’ll play those 4 min/game. Yeah, glad that worked out.

by rxmike12 on Nov 17, 2008 9:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

KK has made some bad decisions in this game?

And what’s up with his FT%? I picked him for my fantasy team to help me win in the FT catagory.

by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 9:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and shhh...

Millsap is your starting PF next year.

by rxmike12 on Nov 17, 2008 9:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Why can't the Jazz ever

EVER!!!! play like this on the road?

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 9:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

That

was the Clippers.

We have 2 more 5-game Eastern Conference road-game swings left. Can’t go 1-4 on either of those.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 9:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure they can...

A healthy DWill and full complement of players will prevent it.

by rxmike12 on Nov 17, 2008 9:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm making a prediction

Utah jazz. Your NBA champs this year.

by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 17, 2008 9:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Sure,

if we get homecourt. To get homecourt though, you need to win on the road.

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Since you asked: Booze

Sorry I haven’t been in here chatting, I’ve been bouncing between watching the game and using the ESPN trade machine to get rid of Harp and Flop.

by Vromanite on Nov 17, 2008 9:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

let us know what you come up with

on the trade machine

"SHOCK THE WORLD!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!"

by Shums on Nov 17, 2008 10:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I liked the two of them to Chicago for Drew Gooden

because even if he doesn’t really work out well as a player his $7M contract expires after this year, which obviously could be helpful in resigning guys and still staying under the luxury tax.

But really, the point is to just get Harp and Collins out of here. They play horrible yet still steal minutes from guys like CJ and Kosta.

by Vromanite on Nov 17, 2008 10:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

See

this team can play well!

Now do it on the road too!

by UtesFan89 on Nov 17, 2008 9:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

That's funny. I hadn't heard of that.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 9:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is Steve Brown talking about?

“There are nights and then there are nights. This was one of them”

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 9:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Shums is reporting from the game:

“I loved the noise when AK got back to back blocks. I can’t believe how CJ played tonight. Tha’s what he can do offensively when he has confidence. He’s still not a great defender. We got some favorable calls in the 2nd which helped. If Nash isn’t in foul trouble the whole game we probably don’t win. Not impressed with the suns overall.”

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 9:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

This is the perfect schedule for having Deron out.

Home with Milwaukee and then at SA and Memphis. Then 4 home games against average to crappy teams. We should win most, if not all of those games, even without Deron. Having AK back helps a lot.

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by clarkpojo on Nov 17, 2008 9:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

ManSap in ACTION!

And then AK nails him twice more!

Awsome game, BBJ, your blog is taking off like, well like dWill at the top of the key!

by RRR on Nov 17, 2008 11:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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