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Utah Jazz @ New Jersey Nets - Game Thread

Utah Jazz at New Jersey Nets, Dec 17, 2008 5:30 PM MST


I don't have to remind you what happened last time against the Nets.  That was the last game I went to in person and the ugliest one that I've seen in person.  That put my current losing streak to 2 games after having seen 7 wins in a row.

Devin Harris went off (he also went off against the Suns the next game, so it wasn't just the Jazz).  Nobody really had a good night for the Jazz except Millsap & CJ.  I love their contributions, but they should be supplemental to the big dogs.  Although you could argue Millsap is becoming a big dog. 

But Memo, I'm looking at you.  I've written before, but Memo having a good game the past couple of years has been the key to Utah's success.  In games where he's scored at least 15 points, the Jazz are 69-26 (.730).

Boozer will be out again tonight, so we'll need someone other than Millsap to step things up.

The Nets only have two guys on their team that you have to worry about.  Vince Carter and Devn Harris score 43% of their team's points.  If the '98 Utes can stop Carter and Jamison, then the Jazz should be able to stop these two.

The Jazz have a ton more scorers and a lot more options.

It's time to turn things around now.  No more waiting on injuries.  The Jazz have the team to beat the Nets easily.  So let's get an optimistic prediction here:

Jazz - 107, Nets - 95

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Holy sh!t

pathetic start.

Memo is 0-4, and we’re down 12-2.

Did people forget (or not know?) that it’s an early game?

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 5:51 PM MST reply actions  

UGLY.

don’t watch if you can stand not to.

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 5:52 PM MST reply actions  

17-3 nj

jazz 1-8 and 5 TOs in 7 minutes

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 5:55 PM MST reply actions  

At least

Harris & Lopez are on my fantasy team. I guess that kinda numbs the pain.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 5:57 PM MST reply actions  

good....cuz i was gonna say

real life trumps fantasy basketball every day of the week

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep.

Definitely.

It’s the one thing that sucks (no matter what fantasy sport)… starting the guys that your team is playing against.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 5:59 PM MST up reply actions  

in my other league

i sat all my 4 of my jazz players. i just didn’t have a good feeling about today.

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice.

I think the only Jazz players I have (in any of my leagues) are Booze (oops) and Brewer. I was never able to get AK… he always ended up going right before where I was targeting him.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:01 PM MST up reply actions  

this is my second year playing fantasy

and i learned from my mistakes last year. i.e. i avoided drafting booz.

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

for anyone thinking of tuning in

it’s now 23-5 new jersey. rethink your plans.

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:01 PM MST reply actions  

thank god

I have a final to study for. now it’s just time to find a way to draw myself to studying for the worst class i’ve ever taken.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Nah, took that final.

didn’t seem too bad.

This is Intro to Cellular Neurobiology.
Aka Hell on Earth.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Cellular Neurobio?

If only… because then I wouldn’t be in the class.

It seemed interesting, and then class started. Been a battle to stay awake in class ever since.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

It's official

…we have hit rock bottom. Maybe it’s time I separate myself from this team for a while…

by moneyman memo on Dec 17, 2008 6:02 PM MST reply actions  

I'd say

“there’s nowhere to go but up”, but we have a back-to-back with the Pistons & Bulls starting Friday, so I’ll have to refrain from that comment.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope, we won't

barring a miraculous 30 seconds involving 7-points.

Reggie Miller-style, I guess.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Do we have the cap space

to pay both of them?
That said… Stephen Curry. It’d take a high pick (aka luck), but maybe…

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:11 PM MST up reply actions  

7 points in the quarter

2 for Brewer
2 for Koufos
2 for Almond
1 for Deron
 
3-19 shooting. 6 turnovers. Down by 20 (27-7) after 1.

On the plus side, at least it’s not the fewest points ever in 1 quarter (2 points, Golden State, 2/8/04)

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:08 PM MST reply actions  

for heaven's sake

they come out in the 2nd quarter shooting 3s and long shots

are they complete idiots?

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:09 PM MST reply actions  

Probably.

I wonder if J-Slow has already thrown in the towel.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:12 PM MST up reply actions  

the players might have

but i don’t think jerry ever has or will.

he needs to call the plays. seriously.

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know

there are some games where it seems that J-Slow might as well give up, because the players obviously have and he’s just wasting his energy.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Suggestions for alternate viewing?

Cuz dis game, (so far), is not worth the electricity to watch it! AAARGH!!!

by RRR on Dec 17, 2008 6:10 PM MST reply actions  

The Simpsons is on.

So is Friends.
And local news, if that’s how you roll.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Yahoo!

shows only 4 guys being in the game for the Jazz. That could explain quite a bit. ;)

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:13 PM MST reply actions  

Well guys

time for the Jazz-sters biggest comeback of the year.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:16 PM MST reply actions  

Started 4-25

now 8-32.

That’s an improvement…

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:20 PM MST reply actions  

No

I most definitely am not.
It’s just at this point, it’s hard to be much more pessimistic than I already am.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Just for shits & giggles...

Kyle Korver already has 7 rebounds, and Kosta Koufos has 6.

Attack of the Killer K’s!

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:26 PM MST reply actions  

CJ

well on pace to play under 20 minutes again today.

“starter”

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:31 PM MST reply actions  

Lucky for the Jazz

that the Nets are 1-9 from downtown
and 15-35 from the field.

This could be a lot uglier (yes, it somehow could be)

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:32 PM MST reply actions  

i wonder if boler's heart is racing

at the thought of sap’s double-double streak ending

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:32 PM MST reply actions  

Okur struggling big-time

0-6, and I’ve read “missed dunk” and “missed layup” at least once each.

I think BBJ jinxed Okur with his game-thread start today.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:33 PM MST reply actions  

This game

is the Jazz-sters way of coming out and telling us all to shut up with the “trade Booze” talk.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:34 PM MST reply actions  

they have to convince me first that he makes that big a difference

it’s not like he doesn’t have serious flaws in his game

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Well they can't do that

without him on the court… and who knows when that’ll be.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice!

12 point quarter for the Nets.
Lucky that they settled for jumpers too

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

If J-Slow has half a brain in him

Okur gets like 5 minutes. And if he isn’t playing better, it’s to the bench for him. At least until he has to come in due to foul trouble or something.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:39 PM MST reply actions  

that should apply to everyone on the team

if/when boozer comes back and he dogs plays on D, yank him. if cj and almond jack up shots and don’t crash the boards, yank them. coaches take charge

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:42 PM MST up reply actions  

the theme of this game is

if your name doesn’t start with a K, you don’t get to play

i wish fess were active, that would give us 5 K players

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:42 PM MST reply actions  

One can but hope...

That Sap gits a big time bonus at the end of the year!!

He has earned it already, and the season is young..

by RRR on Dec 17, 2008 6:50 PM MST up reply actions  

can't hope that....

if it’s another team signing him to an offer sheet the jazz will not be able to match it unless they get rid of booz, memo or AK…

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:51 PM MST up reply actions  

and once again

i am all for keeping memo and ak

booz might be a better offensive player, but he’s not 10 million more better

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 6:52 PM MST up reply actions  

5-18

5 missed treys, and 2 of the missed shots were blocked.

That’s the Nets 2nd quarter… I guess it’s not as bad as the Jazz 3rd quarter vs. Orlando.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 6:47 PM MST reply actions  

I am in Denver.

And don’t get the game. What a game though. What is up with our starters?

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 17, 2008 7:12 PM MST reply actions  

good defense there

stopped a possible fast break!

by RRR on Dec 17, 2008 7:14 PM MST reply actions  

I miss ejections of Sloan. It is needed to fire up the team.

Our team needs a fire lit under them. And I hate it when Harpring plays in the 4th quarter.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 17, 2008 7:30 PM MST reply actions  

completely agree.

jerry might have needed to “mellow out” bc of all the young players on the team, but i miss his fire.

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I know that he stopped doing it because of the team he has, but this team needs some whooping into shape.

Big time. They are waaaay underachieving and under performing and most disappointingly, undertrying.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 17, 2008 7:33 PM MST up reply actions  

hello...boozer?

unless you omitted him because he’s not playing, period.

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 7:35 PM MST up reply actions  

yes.

But his defensive effort has been much much better this year. Still not awesome, but the effort is there.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 17, 2008 7:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I cannot believe this turnaround.

Sloan’s tactics return! His ejection was the thing this team needed.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 17, 2008 7:46 PM MST reply actions  

if you're jerry

do you cuss the team out after the game, or give them gold stars?

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 7:47 PM MST up reply actions  

He will have a serious, but constructive conversation.

I don’t think he yells as much as he used to.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 17, 2008 7:48 PM MST up reply actions  

what did I miss?

we’re ahead now? I’m at my parents’ house, have been out shopping all day and they don’t have cable…

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Dec 17, 2008 7:48 PM MST reply actions  

wow

okay, now I’m glad I’ve been out shopping all day.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Dec 17, 2008 7:51 PM MST up reply actions  

stoled from utesfan above.... but ... :)

 7 points in the quarter

2 for Brewer
2 for Koufos
2 for Almond
1 for Deron
 
3-19 shooting. 6 turnovers. Down by 20 (27-7) after 1.

by RRR on Dec 17, 2008 7:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah...

it was ugly.

Thank god for our bench.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

apart from everything else he's doing

sap deserves praise for raising his ft%

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 7:50 PM MST reply actions  

Dang

Miles & Brewer benched the entire 2nd half, KK finally awake (Deron too?), and Koufos having a huge game… and still not getting enough time.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 7:52 PM MST reply actions  

Pretty much that they're expendable

if Korver & AK show up. Though we already knew that about CJ, right after he signed the offer sheet with OKC. $4 million/year to play 16 minutes a game (6 today).

And if we could somehow add Stephen Curry… :)

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 7:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

I love Brewer, and think he’s one of the better perimeter defenders on the team, but with this team… perimeter defense doesn’t matter because no one does it.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 7:56 PM MST up reply actions  

i love him too

but i think he should be doing what he did last year. i know he worked on his shot but i still don’t want him shooting them.

by moni on Dec 17, 2008 7:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

Unfortunately, with Deron struggling still & Okur struggling (like his horrible 0-6 first half for 0 points), Brewer & CJ are the “shooters” that need to make the jumpers to keep the DTs away from ’Sap.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 7:58 PM MST up reply actions  

My goodness! A 30+ point turnaround!

Down 22 end of 1st

Up 11 at near end of game….

by RRR on Dec 17, 2008 7:58 PM MST reply actions  

Make that a firm 11 at game end!

Congrats to us all!

Oh and especially for the team and a massive road win!!!

by RRR on Dec 17, 2008 7:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Game!

What a comeback!

I want my gold star. :)

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 8:00 PM MST reply actions  

yay!

I win.

Now back to being a pessimist and predicting doom.

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

The thing is that Brewer was fighting for his starting life last year so he played tough defense.

Now he feels comfortable as a starter and isn’t playing like his job depends on it. Same story with CJ.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 17, 2008 8:00 PM MST reply actions  

Holy Crap

I hate watching these things on gamecast/radio. Can’t post from my tiny phone. Anyone want to buy me an iPhone?

The turning point in the season?

by Basketball John on Dec 17, 2008 8:02 PM MST reply actions  

Hopefully

rock bottom was the first quarter today, and not the upcoming Detroit/Chicago back-to-back.

Oh crap… I’m back to my pessimistic ways. ;)

by UtesFan89 on Dec 17, 2008 8:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Boozer to Opt Out

Hey guys. Just a quick note. We just saw on ESPN that Boozer IS opting out next season.

Finally we have something up before BBJ….assuming he didn’t put a gun to his head after the 1st quarter tonight.

We bleed True Blue.
www.truebluejazz.com

by CB Jack on Dec 17, 2008 11:07 PM MST reply actions  

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