Nets bigs on block?

by UtesFan89 on Jul 28, 2008 10:24 PM MDT Comment 22 comments

The Nets were said to be considering sign-and-trade options earlier this summer, a scenario that was still an option if Krstic's Russian contract didn't work out.

New Jersey is heavy on forwards, and according to the article Sean Williams and Stromile Swift are believed to be on the trading block.

Using the RealGM trade checker, a straight-up deal could be Swift for Harpring. They'd probably want a 1st rounder or something (after all, it is Harpring)... the Jazz don't have a 1st rounder in 2009 (to the Sixers in the Korver trade)... not sure about 2nd rounders. The Jazz have a couple of 1st rounders in 2010... I highly doubt they use the Knicks one though. Swift's contract expires after the season, No Knees has 1 year left after the season.

Sean Williams could go straight up for Price or Brewer, though I don't see the Jazz doing that. Price is in the last year of his contract, Brewer has 1 year left on his rookie contract. Another option would be Williams for Almond & Fesenko, though I'm not sure if the Jazz would want to part with both of them, though Williams could/would be a shot-blocking presence inside.

Another option is a combo-deal... Harpring, Flop & picks as need be for Swift & Williams. Not sure if the Nets would want another Collins though... they just got rid of theirs last year (for Swift, no less).

Sean Williams comes in at 6'10, and averaged 5.6 ppg, 4.4 rpg and 1.5 bpg in 73 games last year (17.5 mpg). He shot 53.8% from the field and 60.9% from the line. There are some off-court issues from his college days though.

Stromile Swift got 6.1 ppg, 3.6 rpg and 1.0 bpg in 56 games last year (15.1 mpg). Over his career, he's averaged 8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg and 1.2 bpg. He shot 50.9% from the field last year, raising his career average to 47.4%. His career FT% is 70.3%, though he was at 67% last year.

The thing is, if you look at the Nets depth chart right now, what they really seem to need is a PG. They have 7 wings (and we think we have a problem), 4 4's, and 3 5's. So maybe they wouldn't want Almond or No Knees or Flop or Fesenko though. Would Price or Knight be enough? And would it be worth it on our end to give up our back-up PG (who has shown the ability to spell Deron effectively) to get another "big"?

I'm just guessing here though... who knows what they want.

Thoughts? Ideas? Opinions? Am I out of my mind?

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I'd love if we could land Sean Williams

Maybe what we could do, if what they’re after is a PG, is package Brevin Knight (we can trade a guy we just got, right?) with Collins or Fes. Then, we could pick up someone like Tyrone Brazelton or Kevin Kruger to fill in as our 3rd PG.

Sorry if this situation is impossible/illogical, I didn’t really do my research on this one.

by Vromanite on Jul 28, 2008 11:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Knight

can’t be traded until September 23rd (60-days from the day of trade, or something like that).
Knight & Flop would mean you’d have to do a combined deal for Yi & Sean… neither team would do that, IMO.
Knight & Fesenko = Sean & Josh Boone… don’t know if they’d give up both of them though.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:47 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

I mean

30-days from trade. Or something like that.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I also believe that we can only trade him in a straight-up swap – I don’t think he can be part of a package deal. I can’t easily find confirmation of this though, so take it with a grain of salt.

by kris247 on Jul 29, 2008 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can go

Knight for Sean straight-up, I think. Not sure why they’d do that.
Is straight up just for the players? I mean, can we toss in a pick or what-not?

Just wondering if you know… I’m not sure about the rules.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure about that, either. Future draft picks are worth exactly zero dollars under the salary cap, so it seems like you would be able to throw in some picks and/or cash compensation if necessary.

by kris247 on Jul 30, 2008 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

If this is true we should Target Sean Williams

Sean Williams would be an upgrade at backup center. I would give up anything short of our starters, Millsap, Korver, and Miles (who can’t be traded anyway).

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by clarkpojo on Jul 28, 2008 11:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

But why is Williams on the Block?

But if Williams is on the block, the Nets are going to try to get something good for him because A) he is cheap at $1.5 million and B) he is an expiring contract, so they wouldn’t want either of those things back. They would want someone who can contribute.

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by clarkpojo on Jul 28, 2008 11:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Sean...

Sean has 2 years left on his rookie deal, just like Almond.
Almond would give them a jump-shooting wing to back-up VInsanity/CDR/Yi (at the 2 & 3 spots), Fesenko (if developed) could turn into a back-up for Brook Lopez… especially with Krstic in Russia now and Swift’s contract up after the year.
If they prefer a PG, you could give them Price instead of Almond… he can contribute now, and has an expiring contract if they don’t want to be saddled with him later. But they just signed Keyon Dooling to back-up the recently acquired (trade deadline last year) Devin Harris, so I’m not sure they’d need Price.

Oh, and the Nets can’t take much back… they’re over the cap as well, so they can’t get back much more than the $1.5 million or w/e that Sean is due to make.

And he’s supposedly on the block because of their glut of big-men (Sean, Boone, Najera, Ryan Anderson, Brook, Stromile, Yi).

Maybe they try to force the team to take KVH’s contract or Bobby Simmons with Sean. In that case, you could give up No Knees plus picks (for KVH). If they try it with Simmons, you’d have to wait till August 10th (recently traded), it would cost us Boozer. Not sure that’d be worth it, unless Simmons is totally healthy and the team is confident AK can play the 4. Plus, trading Booze for Simmons & Sean would be fairly stupid… the team could definitely do better.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Williams has one guaranteed year left

The second year is a team option, just like with Morris Almond. So to the Nets, Williams is an expiring contract.

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by clarkpojo on Jul 29, 2008 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh...

didn’t see that. RealGM had a 2, so I just assumed.
Sorry about that.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Swift...

...has the coolest first name in the history of sport: Stromile.

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by MTN on Jul 29, 2008 12:00 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I still like

Boof.
Just sounds funny.
Boof Bonser, pitcher for the Minnesota Twins

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
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by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

THose are great names

But I have a special place for Pooh Richardson, Moochie Norris, and my favorite of all time BIMBO Coles

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by clarkpojo on Jul 29, 2008 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've always liked

Mookie (Blaylock) as well.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quick news...

Krstic to Russia a done deal (according to Chard Ford via Krstic’s agent), and Okafor is near a 6-year deal with the Bobcats.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:43 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Done deal

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3509028

by Basketball John on Jul 29, 2008 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dang

He would’ve been a nice pick-up… provided the team had space. Of course, then Okur or Okafor or Booze would have to come off the bench, and they wouldn’t agree to that.

The Utah Jazz. The Jazz... duh.
The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus

Hot Rod would have trouble getting the names Okur and Okafor right…

by neff on Jul 29, 2008 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

That could be

fun to watch. At least at the beginning.

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The best NBA team in Utah... no doubts about it!
Playing For Pride. Pirates, Utes, Panthers, and more...
Because, in the end, only one team can "win it all".

by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Williams played at BC right?

If he’s the player I’m thinking of, I would go for it. He was a beast in college. Although he’s a bit undersized, he’d be a better option to backup Okur than anyone on the roster right now. Plus he’s cheap, and if it doesn’t work out, he’s not long term. Swift would give us length, but he seems a little soft to me. I would be happy with either player, but I’d prefer Williams, all things considered. Make a move KOC!

by neff on Jul 29, 2008 2:50 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, he played at BC.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 29, 2008 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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