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New Orleans Hornets @ Utah Jazz - Game Thread

New Orleans Hornets at Utah Jazz, Jan 7, 2009 7:00 PM MST


This is arguably one of the biggest games of the year so far and not necessarily for the reason you might think.

Let's get this out of the way - Any time it's Williams v. Paul, it's big.  Deron likes to say it's just another game, but at the same time he says that he likes going up against the best.  So there's always that extra motivation for him.  But the matchup isn't the main reason why this is a big game.

The Hornets just did the rest of the Western Conference a favor last night, knocking off LA in LA and closing the gap for everyone a bit.  NOLA is 7-3 in their last 10 games and have won 5 of their last 6.  So they're playing pretty well right now.

This game will be a good barometer whether the Jazz are serious contenders at this point in the season.  We're facing a Western Conference power, at home, after they just knocked off the conference leader on their home court.  So if the Jazz win tonight, it will show a few things,

  • It would put a significant stamp on the season so far when the Jazz have been wishy-washy at best.  We've alternated wins and losses for too long now.  We have to start putting something together.  A win would be two in a row and perhaps start a streak similar to last January.
  • If we beat NOLA without Boozer, we'll be that much better off when he returns.
  • Maybe the front office reconsiders making any moves.  They're not going to be rushed or forced into anything anyway, but a win here would have to be encouraging for them knowing that the team as constituted is pretty good.  If there was a significant upgrade, they'd make it.  A loss though might prompt them a little to make a trade though.
Right now, the Jazz seem to be playing like the 2005-06 team.  That team finished 41-41 on the year.  The team was still trying to adapt to each other and that's kind of what we have now and that's how they've played.

That could be the biggest reason we need Carlos back.  The 20+ & 10+ are obviously great, but the sense of normalcy could put everyone a little bit more at ease and we'd finally have the team we envisioned at the beginning of the season that was suppose to be close to leading the west at this point.

The big guns for NOLA are of course Chris Paul and David West.  They're almost the Bizarro Deron & Carlos, except they're not the opposite.  I don't know where I was going with that.  Anyway, we'll have Deron v. Paul, Millsap v. West, Memo v. Chandler Bing, and AK against their defense.

And as always,

8-3
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I'm here and I'm wearing my 8>3 t-shirt right now.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Sweet

I’ve been meaning to email you about that. How does it look?

by Basketball John on Jan 7, 2009 7:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It looks good.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Millsap got away with a travel.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

No wait. This just in.

It was a hermit crab dribble.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe.

But even in the last 3 games I can think of 6 and ones that Miles has given up. That’s not just a coincidence

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

everyone's to blame

with dwill back in the starting lineup there’s no more excuses for these slow starts

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 7:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not solely.

But he’s a big reason. He doesn’t play with energy and he doesn’t run the first team offense. I mean his guy has 7 points so far and did you see that awful left hook shot? I also think we have sort of mentally embraced the slow start thing.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I am displeased thus far

hopefully it’s just jitters.

HOLY CRAP RONNIE B. Okay. I feel better.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:26 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

But he still can't dunk yet in traffic.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Miles problems boil down to two things and they are very fixable.

1. Be more active on defense and don’t let your defender get open layups and dunks

2. Cut to the basket without the ball and never stop moving on offense.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

maybe he thinks that he already is active on defense

and is moving on offense.

isn’t that what it boils down to? he and jerry have different definitions of what constitutes “working hard”

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 7:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

With that said. He looks more active now.

I mean even going after the offensive rebound allowed Memo to get that putback.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:29 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm excited to see how Knight guards Paul.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:31 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Five TOs for Jazz already

about four too many.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

David West got away with a huge offensive foul. He pushed AK's hand away.

I like AK on West though.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Did you guys see the sour puss on West's face after that call?

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

lol

Boler: “Hornets shoot free throws at 80% as a team.”
Booner: “80% as a team… and… that’s good…”

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Memo is ballin'

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:34 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I guess lots of dunkers have directv.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:34 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Slc Dunkers, I mean.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

what's OTA?

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

over the air

actually, the HD is better because it’s not compressed.

by Basketball John on Jan 7, 2009 7:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

over the air

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

what a huge bench drop-off for NOLA

from West and Chandler to Armstrong and Ely. Ouch city.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Mark my words.

No team can be considered a contender when Marvin Ely is your backup power forward.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, no. Harpring.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:43 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

btw in case some of you haven't seen it

the stockton pepsi commercial got picked up by ball don’t like via slcdunk yesterday. it was on the front page of yahoo nba yesterday.

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 7:43 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

nice job Moni. I laughed out loud. It made my day.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Millsap with 9 points and 7 boards already. And 3 offensive boards.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:47 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

HARPRING!

WIth the sweet dunk.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:48 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Even without Boozer...

Our second team is about 3 times better than the Hornets’ second team.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:50 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

at least.

Everyone thought Posey would strengthen their bench, but he’s been a non-factor.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

To his credit.

He is over 40% on 3s this season. He crept up on us.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Korver

something is wrong with that boy.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

West is getting the Kobe treatment tonight.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Harp being Harp

drawing crap calls away from the ball.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

haha, Korver

best. rebound. ever.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Here is my wife's quote on that rebound.

“Wow. He’s really lucky the Hornets didn’t stick around.”

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

'bout frakkin time, Kyle.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Your nerd meter just went through the roof.

Now I know, it’s battlestar galactica.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

what, like it wasn't through the roof before?

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 7:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Harpring's ballin'

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 7:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

elsewhere...

houston beat boston
and peskywolves up on okc by 40

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 8:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

You have to think

That the Jazz should be able to pull away with their bench and with the Hornets finishing up a road trip and having played last night.

by Basketball John on Jan 7, 2009 8:03 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

AND only having 2 FGs in the quarter

sorry to keep harping on about it but i find it hard to believe the game is this close considering that

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 8:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If we just keep attacking, yes.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 8:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

that possession

was very Paul-like from D-Will. lots of dribbling, a little penetration, and then a kick-out for a jumper. Deron could do just about anything Paul does if he set his mind to it.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:03 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Paul is putting up tons of points...

but other than the first four minutes of the game, he isn’t getting any teammates involved. This is how SA beat them last year. They let Paul get his, but not anyone else.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 8:04 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

remember

this is the dude who nailed a guy in the nuts in the NCAA tournament.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

you are correct

I stand corrected.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Bench points.

17-2. We would own these guys in the playoffs. Just sayin’.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 8:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Miles, Brewer and Korver all had exactly 12 minutes played.

Well done, coach. That’s impressive. And even I have to admit, Harpring played well.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 8:12 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

a Harpring on a different team.
In the interim, a Harp that can make his shots is always good. And one that doesn’t totally suck it up on any given day (especially against a fast-paced team).

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 8:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah...

Was just throwing that out there… I’m a half behind in commenting :)

by rxmike12 on Jan 7, 2009 8:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

He still sounds pretty good on the radio. It would be sad to see him have to skip games.

by Basketball John on Jan 7, 2009 8:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have done it

if I wasn’t working. And if I had bought an 8>3 shirt. (I still plan to, I just haven’t yet.)

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:22 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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by milleniumprince on Jan 7, 2009 8:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I got a fever

and the only prescription is more double-doubles.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha...

that cracked me up

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 8:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

miles got a board

that’ll buy him another minute of PT

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 8:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

you think that's the formula?

1 REB = 1 minute?

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah...

more like 1 board = 4 minutes (approximately).
At least that’s what it seems like…

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 8:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Season stats...

(before today)

803 minutes, 79 boards.
More than 10 minutes/board.

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 8:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Miles played a horrible first 3 minutes.

And he has been fantastic ever since.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 8:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Miles is actually running the Jazz offense.

It looks great. So glad we re-signed him.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 8:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

and you wanted to bench him.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hornets fan here...

We were just wondering the same thing. That was pretty blatant. Were they tied up before that or did Tyson do that unprovoked? We only saw the push.

http://www.hometownhornets.blogspot.com/

by hldomingue on Jan 7, 2009 8:33 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And Paul just pushed Williams off of him.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 8:31 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he is...

And it hurts us Louisianians all the more since he’s a local boy.

http://www.hometownhornets.blogspot.com/

by hldomingue on Jan 7, 2009 8:33 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish he'd had sucked a little more this year...

…so we don’t have to pay him 8-10 mil/yr in the near future.

by rxmike12 on Jan 7, 2009 8:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I certainly agree...

Just would have been in the 5-6 range if he didn’t blow up. Even a month ago I think we discussed this and I had said 5 for 30mil or something. Now it’s likely 45-50 IMO.

by rxmike12 on Jan 7, 2009 8:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Boler

jinxing Millsap at the line again. “It never fails,” he says. Then don’t frakkin’ mention it!

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking

use him as a 3rd PG a la Price (aka, very little time).
Move price to 2-guard to give us another shooter for when CJ & Korver are struggling.

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 8:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

not a bad idea

but we already have issues guarding opposing 2-guards. Ronnie P is not a large fellow. Dunno if the pros outweigh the cons.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

From Siler...

The number of Jazz games on KJZZ will increase next season.

Yes!

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 8:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Posey

has been taking Bruce Bowen lessons… or Derrick Rose lessons…

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 8:47 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

oh man

the sight of jazzmen being helped off the court is way too famliar

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 8:49 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

For sure.

No lead is safe and D Will is a gamer.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 8:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yikes.

clark jinx!

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 9:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My bad.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 9:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

me too, i suppose

because i agreed with you

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 9:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Mo Nuts

Step right up, young soldier.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 9:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone loves that nickname, BTW

But nobody has really heard it.

by rxmike12 on Jan 7, 2009 9:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

it's my one-man crusade.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 9:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We are going to be back in the playoffs after tonight's win.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 9:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

lol

Utah is in 9th place, and 9.5 games ahead of 10th place.

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 9:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Brev Brev

flattest jumper for a guard in the whole NBA? Thing has NO arc.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 9:06 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yet

it still falls for him.

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 9:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to hijack the thread here...

But the trip BC and I took to Staples Center was a blast. I’ve never been to a road Jazz game and it was pretty fun.

by rxmike12 on Jan 7, 2009 9:12 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Nice touch.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 9:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No

Mo Almond for AK?

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 9:13 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

is he dressed?

I didn’t know if he was inactive or not.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 9:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

please please

get ak out of there before he gets hurt

by moni on Jan 7, 2009 9:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We have

No Knees & Korver and the starters available.

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 9:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

R.P.s hair looks a little funny.. but at least they finally let him play.

by Kelltick not Celtic on Jan 7, 2009 9:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

around the league...

Indy up on Phoenix late…
Denver in a close one with Miami…
Detroit beating Portland…

This could be a nice night for us all around.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 9:18 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

lol

this just in from the Hardwood Paroxyism Twitter feed:

“Good God, Millsap is the Cloverfield monster.”

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 9:20 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

for real?

it’s a social network thing that consists solely of 150-character responses. Sort of like if Facebook was made of nothing but status updates.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 9:33 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh...

hmmm.

Is it worthwhile?
And are any of the commenters here on it?

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I am.

I don’t know of anyone else from here.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 9:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

R.P.s Hair Looks funny… but at least they finally let him play:D

by Kelltick not Celtic on Jan 7, 2009 9:22 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

'Sap

played almost 10 minutes more than any other starter on the Jazz.

by UtesFan89 on Jan 7, 2009 9:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Coaches

I love how at the end of an NBA game the coaches just give the “hey what’s up” head nod and hand in the air

by P_Dizzle on Jan 7, 2009 9:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

I don’t know who likes Byron Scott that much right now. Lots of experts think his team doesn’t like playing for him. But at least go shake Sloan’s hand. He is a legend.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 9:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Big time win guys.

Our first back to back win in what? 20 games?

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 9:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

well

CP3 vs. D-Will:
Paul: 10-18 FG, 26 points, 7 assists, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, 0 turnovers, plus/minus of -17.
Deron: 3-7 FG, 8 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 turnovers, plus/minus of +16.

Iiiiiiiinteresting.

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by Shums on Jan 7, 2009 9:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Suns just lost on a Granger buzzer beater three.

Granger had 37 points.

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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 9:29 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Rhymes With Satan

thanks you very much.

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