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The Downbeat - 9 October 2009 - #75 - The Diamond Edition

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1_medium Just a couple of notes after looking at the box score and watching highlights from yesterday's game against Real Madrid.

  • Listening to Locke yesterday, the bigs dominated on the inside.  Real Madrid really didn't have anyone to stop them.  The biggest advantage was on the boards where the Jazz out-rebounded Madrid 41-23.
  • Ronnie P couldn't go yesterday so Maynor split minutes with Deron, playing 24 each.  Deron has 16 & 5 in that time.  Maynor didn't shoot as well, but did have 7 assists in his time on the court.

    At this point, Maynor is looking like one of the steals of the draft.  In the few highlights I've seen of him, he's looked very comfortable and poised.   And we all know what it's like for rookies under Sloan.  He and Price could be a good mix in the backcourt.
  • Next game is at home v. the Blazers Thursday night at the ESA.  Then it's off to finish the pre-season on the road.

2_medium Looks like the tweeting hasn't slowed down for Miles.  Either he's typing it all with one hand, entirely possible, or this is another reason why it's great to have an entourage.  

"Okay, okay...  Tweet this foor me...  Heading to the gym to get some workouts in before breakfast.  Then it's off to play with my bois...  Man, I'm going to be starvin after that.  Wait, is that more than 140 characters?    You can't have more than 140 characters!  Damn, click on the shrink it button.  No that one.  Give me that, I'll do it myself."

UPDATE: Looks like he his just using one hand.

8_medium I'd like to do some player previews this year with help from the SLC Dunk community.  Email me directly if you're interested, basketballjohn@gmail.com.  I'd like to start them up next week, so let me know.  I'll post something again for those that might not have caught the DB today.  Let me know who you'd like.  If more than one person wants to do a player, you can do a collborative effort, or I'll promote both.

4_medium The team should be home or touching down soon.  It's a good thing that the next game isn't until Thursday.

While I think that an NBA team overseas would be well-supported, the logistics would be a nightmare.  As it currently stands, you play teams in your own conference four times mostly, two home and two away.  Outside of that, you play teams in the other conference on a home and home basis.

There's no problem with getting teams there on time, but if you're not in their conference, is it worth all the flying time and time change just to play one game?  The reverse it true as well.  There are a lot of back-to-backs in the NBA.  You couldn't do that with a European or Asian team.  They'd almost have to have 5 and 6 game home-stands throughout the season.  But then you have 5-6 teams making the trip there every week.

I just don't see how teams from either side handle the time change.  I travel one time zone over and I'm wasted.

They'd almost have to expand with 4 teams or so and schedule Euro trips for teams just to make it worthwhile.  And if you think the Jazz are bad on their 5-game east coast swings...

5_medium  Some news coming on the whole KJZZ thing.  Waiting to see if I get a response from a couple of people before posting anything.  Stay tuned.

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Watched both Europe games

Hey guys, I recorded both the Chicago and Real Madrid games and watched them all the way through. Here are my observations:

DWill: Looks fantastic. He was clearly dragging in the first quarter of the Bulls game (probably jet lag), but he turned it on in the 3rd. He looks nimble, agile, and his jumper was money in both games. He also was very good at drawing fouls when he penetrated, and he was perfect on free throws. Enough said.

Booz: Looks fantastic, and he has noticeably improved his effort and defensive awareness. He actually anticipated some passes in the Real Madrid game where they were passing to the open man or roller and either deflected or intercepted the pass. His jumper doesn’t look like it improved, but his down low game is still as solid as ever.

Brewer: His defensive awareness is still top notch, but I think he gambles too much on D for steals as opposed to sticking with his man. He lost his man a couple times in the Real Madrid game b/c he was trying to play the passing lanes. His jumper doesn’t look to be improved, but he didn’t shoot it that much from the outside. His dribbling still leaves much to be desired.

Millsap: Looks amazing. He really bulked up during the summer – he has serious guns. All the hoopla about Deron and AK beefing up and ppl forgot about Millsap. Just check out any online photos of him at the free throw line in those games. He is a beast now. His jumpshot is money from 15 feet (but not beyond that) and his defensive anticipation looks improved from the end of last season.

AK: They did not use him enough, in my opinion. His floppy hair is awful, but he looks like he is in terrific physical shape. It is very noticeable that he is no longer bouncing off of people like he was in the past couple of seasons when he is trying to drive or play defense. One thing in particular I noticed was that his on-the-ball defense improved greatly. Ppl always say he is such a good defender, but what I saw the past 2 seasons is somebody that did not earn that moniker and settled for weak side blocks (which he didn’t even get much of). He looked extremely active on defense in both games and was grabbing rebounds with authority with his added weight.

Kosta: Sorry to say this, but he looked awful. I was seriously disappointed. He was confused about where he should be on offense, and when did get the ball passed to him in the middle to high post, he would immediately dribble and pass it out. He could not catch interior passes and his missed chippies or got blocked on dunks/layups right under the basket. The only bright spot was that he grabbed some rebounds and blocked/contested some shots.

Okur: Wasn’t that active, so can’t really give that much of an assessment. Looks to be in good shape and his jumper is always money. He drove the ball from the 3pt line straight to the hoop for an underhand scoop layup against the Bulls in the 1st quarter that was pretty impressive.

Maynor: I am not as high on Maynor as BBJ is, and I think he would agree with me if he watched both games in their entirety. He is definitely going to be a decent 3rd string backup and is NBA material, but he is not the steal of the draft or as good as you may think. Here’s what I saw….he has deceptive quickness on two moves: his double crossover (similar to Deron’s) and his reverse dribble (brief hesitation where he turns his back to the basket and then almost immediate lightning quick acceleration when he turns the other way and drives to the hoop). He uses these two moves to get into the paint, which is sole purpose everytime he has the ball. He then does one of only two things once he penetrates: 1) He throws up an ugly, off-balance floater that will go in less than 1/4 of the time and likely will get blocked during the regular season. 2) He passes to the big man underneath the basket on the weak side. While this worked against Real Madrid, here’s why it won’t work against most NBA teams. 1) He dribbles into traffic constantly and he is a shrimp by NBA guard standards. Against the Real Madrid backcourt, he could get into the lane without getting bumped off balance. That won’t be the case against the muscular and stocky guards during the regular season. 2) He doesn’t understand spacing. He drives directly into the lane (easy enough against Real Madrid) but makes a beeline for the weakside big man (e.g. Booz or Millsap) and tries to draw their defender, but in several instances he was WAY too close to Booz/Millsap and his pass bounced off their shoulder. 3) He missed open people on the perimeter numerous times during the game because he was only looking to get in the lane as described above. There were several instances were he missed Korver and AK wide open on the perimeter, even when Maynor was AT THE TOP OF THE KEY. He just turns his head and doesn’t pay attention AT ALL. Ok now for the good things: he has very good anticipation on defense. He stole the ball from Jannero Pargo at the top of the key in a wicked-good anticipation of a conventional pass Pargo was about to make. He also has surprisingly solid range on his jumpshot (even out to 3pt range) from the 2 games I saw.

Wes Matthews: Looks like he should be the one signed instead of Dupree. He has a solid body and can shoot it well from the stripe and the 3pt line. He rebounds, and he isn’t afraid to take it to the hole. I get the sense that his game might be sensitive to confidence issues, though….he benefited in these two games from starting, and we might see something completely different if he comes off the bench with the 2nd unit.

Dupree: Fouls way too much, but has fantastic athleticism. His jumper is a total set shot (and he surprisingly hit one against Real Madrid) and cannot be relied upon. He rebounds, is extremely physical on defense (hence the fouls), and is hard-nosed as advertised.

Alex Johnson: His stat line against Real Madrid is somewhat deceptive. He was out of control most of the time he was on the court and did not participate correctly in any of the set plays. All 4 of his buckets were either on broken plays or put-backs. He appears to have a pretty decent jumper (2 of the shots were 15-footers), and he isn’t afraid to mix it up down low. He is decently quick on defense, but he didn’t seem to be interested in anything beyond getting the ball and shooting it on the offensive end.

Suton: Disappointing, but to be fair he wasn’t given that much PT or an opportunity with the ball even when he was on the court. He did all the things that a big man should do, stay in the paint, rebound, try to block shots, and make layups. He did not venture outside to throw up ill-advised jumpers like he did at Michigan State or in summer league (kind of surprised me), and he did box out for rebounds. I think he is way too cuddly (like a marshmallow) and soft to be a dependable big man. He has a good jumper, but he doesn’t offer much in terms of size or defense. I’m not a fan.

Lastly, I just want to say that the play-by-play guy (Bob something) for NBATV is totally unqualified and an idiot. He did not know who Wesley Matthews was until he scored like his 10th point, and he said the Jazz roster was playing at full-strength for the Bulls game until after halftime, when he realized that CJ Miles was gone. Then he gave a totally made-up guess that he might be out for a 1/3 of the season. Uhhh…what about Korver and Fesenko, who were both injured and not playing? When a new guy substitutes into the game, he just lists their name, height, weight, and school. What a useless tool. Yes I am jealous of his job. Steve Smith was the color guy for the Bulls game and he was totally unprepared and not insightful. Webber was FANTASTIC in the Real Madrid game and offered useful perspective. breathing heavily Ok I’m done.

by moneyman memo on Oct 9, 2009 11:40 AM MDT reply actions  

Longest comment ever?

You could easily move this to a FanPost. Great stuff.

I admit all that I’ve seen of Maynor is highlights. It’s still very, very early though and what I’ve read from some of the players and coaches, it’s been very good. The things you mention with spacing and the such will get better as he gains more experience.

I do wish he would get rid of that floater though. I saw it in the summer league and it wasn’t good. That shouldn’t be his go-to shot.

by Basketball John on Oct 9, 2009 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good write up. And seriously, you should post some fanposts.

But I think the truth about Maynor lies somewhere in the middle between you and BBJ, but is closer to BBJ.

I don’t think Maynor is necessarily a steal in the draft, but he is a testament to how many good point guards were in this years draft. I think that he is still about the 5th best point guard in the draft. But with that said, your criticisms of him aren’t exactly accurate. He is already the second best pg on the team and its not even close. He pushed the ball up the court constantly without ever being out of control. He can get by his defender and there are few, if any, backup point guards that will keep him in front of them in the NBA, and when he penetrates he has options and makes the right decisions. He either hits cutters for easy baskets or shoots the runner, which is as good of a shot as almost any option at that point. If he can’t shoot a runner, then it is easy to defend him. What do you want from a point guard? You want him to penetrate the lane, dictate the pace and get easy baskets for his teammates. Maynor has done all three with the poise of a 5 year veteran, 3 weeks into his NBA career.

And he and Millsap have already made a connection. They will eat some second teams alive.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Oct 9, 2009 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

i had to mute it

most of the game because of his crappy game calling and lack of knowledge of our team..idiot! He kept talkin bout other non-game related crap..garbage!

by UtonganKidInCali on Oct 9, 2009 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

yeh

1.Maynor looks like a steal! Very poised, he only made a few mistakes, but he played well. I think Matthews will make due until CJ gets back. Milsap is crazy! I had to watch that dunk he had a few times, homeboy got up…with style! Can’t wait to see Deron dunk all year…man everyone thought he was gonna unleash it…soon enough!
4. Yeah watched the news conference with Stern it would be better to have nba affiliated teams in other countries, where i think we could see some new talent show up in places we never would expect to find it. Be interesting to see other countries develop different types of players.
5. I have a source at kjzz and he told him they laid off a bunch of people out there. He says he thinks they may can the whole station. He says kjzz has been in the red for a while and the Miller umbrella system makes it possible to sever appendages that arent making money w/o the other businesses failing, sucks but we’ll see.

by UtonganKidInCali on Oct 9, 2009 12:46 PM MDT reply actions  

1. Watched both games and I thought Maynor looked good. Matthews also looks like he could hold down a spot til CJ gets back.

Millsap came to play!!!

I have to say that I totally loved C Webbs commentating.

"He is STUPID but he knows that he is STUPID and that almost makes him smart."

by LoWBlok on Oct 11, 2009 7:22 AM MDT reply actions  

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