Game Thread & Preview - Utah Jazz @ Cleveland Cavaliers
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 4:38 PM MST
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We're going to have to see at least the same performance tonight from the Jazz that we saw last night against the 76ers if we're going to have a shot in this one.
For a team that we only see once a year, I really don't like the Cavs. I think the biggest reason is because of LeBron James. No question on the basketball court he is the top player in the league.
But I think he has a serious god-complex and he gets the biggest star treatment in the league since Kobe and Jordan. The latest proof is his recent campaign to get players to give up wearing #23 in honor of Jordan. James has said he will start wearing #6 next season. So does he think he's 2 X 3 better than Jordan? Maybe he's trying to help the Cavs raise enough cash to keep him? Or will the #6 be a sign of his breakaway from the Cavs to his new team? Maybe a new 6-year deal? Either way, it's pretty conceited. Here's a list of the current players wearing #23,
| Stephen Graham | Bobcats |
| C.J. Watson | Warriors |
| Marcus Camby | Clippers |
| Jodie Meeks | Bucks |
| Devin Brown | Hornets |
| Toney Douglas | Knicks |
| B.J. Mullens | Thunder |
| Lou Williams | 76ers |
| Jason Richardson | Suns |
| Martell Webster | Trail Blazers |
| Kevin Martin | Kings |
| Wes Matthews | Jazz |
He could probably buy most of them out.
Anyway, back to the game at hand. Deron looks like he is still out and by all means he should take as long as needed to make sure things are stable with his family first.
So we'll see a similar lineup and rotation to last night except that with Shaq and Z, we'll probably see Fess play more than 2 minutes tonight.
This is a much more talented team by far than we saw in Philadelphia. So those passes are going to have to be a bit crisper and the defense a little bit tougher.
Hopefully Maynor and Matthews keep up their stellar play. It will be up to AK and Brewer to slow LeBron down a bit. And maybe Fess will have the game of his life to date.
One last question, has Cleveland lost the right to boo Boozer? Is that just reserved for Jazz fans now?
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According to Locke's Twitter...
Shaq is out.
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RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
+1
And if they’re going to retire 23 (which is just stupid, b/c retiring should be saved for guys that were solid FOR YOUR TEAM), then what about 32 (Magic)? Or some of the other numbers?
It’s just stupid.
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seriously
i think lbj just wants to change his number and came up with this reason to make himself sound nice and like he respects mj so much.
either that or he wants a new number so that he can demand it be retired across the league when he retires.
Why would he choose the number of another great player then?
There is some serious Lebron hating going on in this preview. I thought we prided ourselves on logical, factual, and decent arguments. All I am hearing is “I don’t like this guy so he is obviously trying to do more than honor his idol.” I just looked up all the information I could find on the subject, and the only ulterior motives I can find are speculation by the media. If any of you have a link to the page which provide any validity for the theories in the preview?
Lebron James is the reason my wife and I started watching basketball when we got married. He brought interest in a sport which we never paid attention to before. If anyone can show me something to to explain why everyone hates him so much, I would really appreciate it.
by Bobby Joness on Nov 14, 2009 5:19 PM MST up reply actions
"if i don't wear number 23 then no one should be able to." -lebron james
what kind of god does this guy think he is? he’s only one of many many great players in the history of the nba. while we’re at it let’s just retire the numbers of bill russell, magic, kareem, oscar robinson, wilt, and anyone else who impacted the sport of basketball. lebron is doing exactly what kobe did several years ago by going from 8 to 24…trying to bring more attention to himself while selling more jerseys.
by bigdog'sshades on Nov 14, 2009 5:34 PM MST up reply actions
while lebron’s freakish athleticism is fun to watch, there are at least a dozen other guys in the league who i’d rather see in person (nash, kobe, cp3, etc.) because they play with intelligence and cunning, and their heads aren’t enormous (literally and figuratively). lebron is an amazing player but he better adapt his game during the next few years if he wants to be considered an all-time great…his legs may be young but they have a lot of miles on them. he won’t get by on other-wordly athleticism forever.
by bigdog'sshades on Nov 14, 2009 5:39 PM MST up reply actions
Do you have a link for the whole release?
I have never take one sentence quotes as anything. You have too take it in context. I could be wrong obviously, because I have not heard the whole story, but he could very easily have been joking. I have seen him make cheeky remarks in many interviews. I have probably watched as much as anyone here, and doing this purely for himself is not his character. P.S. Moving to another team, he would sell just as many #6’s as #23’s (See Bret Favre).
by Bobby Joness on Nov 14, 2009 5:48 PM MST up reply actions
nah i don't
i read it in an article this morning about charles barkley’s reaction. barkley also says that retiring 23 would be disrespectful to all the other great players in nba history. and it’s far from a forgone conclusion that lbj will be in a different uni next year…remember, no one can pay him as much as the cavs, and as much as he says that doesn’t matter, i don’t think i believe him.
by bigdog'sshades on Nov 14, 2009 5:53 PM MST up reply actions
Correction
Watched him as much (sorry typo)
by Bobby Joness on Nov 14, 2009 5:57 PM MST up reply actions
He just seems to me that he is above the game
There aren’t many players that I hate, and LeBron really isn’t ever going to be on my hate list unless we were to play them in the finals.
Like I said above, his basketball talent is out of this world. I’ve obviously never met the guy or know the guy, but from what I see from him, it’s just rubbed me the wrong way.
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 5:39 PM MST up reply actions
Because
he can single-handedly beat a team?
So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.
speaking of guys that were solid FOR YOUR TEAM
i think it’s idiotic when you retire numbers of guys that didn’t even play for your team (miami for mj, NO for pistol, etc.)
If anyone deserves to have their number retired
throughout the association, it is Bill Russell, IMO. And Russell was number six!
Easy on the LBJ hate, guys
We’re going to have to root for him when he signs here during the offseason (as has been foretold).
"We got to change something bc what we doing ain't working right now!" - DWill
This is going to be a blow out folks.
And not because the Jazz do anything wrong. There defense is passable so far, but the Cavs are on fire. The Jazz are going to have to be a lot more physical with the Cavs and bump them off their cuts and paths, because right now it is just a shooting drill.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
I just want to point out that I have always been high on Maynor, even when he struggled to start the season.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
I hate, HATE, that foul from Okur. That is a typical Jazz foul. Either foul them hard, or else just let them get a layup.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Wow
They’re hitting everything they throw up.
I love the Beavis “Fire, fire” over the loud speaker.
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 6:00 PM MST reply actions
The defense is so soft though. They are moving well, but just not being physical at all. Cleveland knows they are going to get an uncontested shot.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Whoever made the observation that Wesley Matthews is the new Shandon Anderson, was right on.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Hey, there's Fes
I didn’t even notice him coming in.
"We got to change something bc what we doing ain't working right now!" - DWill
If somebody needs a streaming link...
let me know…
by iLoveBooks100per on Nov 14, 2009 6:14 PM MST reply actions
5 point deficit
Not that bad.
"We got to change something bc what we doing ain't working right now!" - DWill
Okay,
Booze just got an AND-1 and didn’t yell “AND-1”
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 6:52 PM MST reply actions
AST-to-TO for the entire Jazz team
15-15
"We got to change something bc what we doing ain't working right now!" - DWill
LeBron is getting too much rest and we haven't made a dent.
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 7:28 PM MST reply actions
I was thinking the same thing.
"We got to change something bc what we doing ain't working right now!" - DWill
What a weak foul call on Brewer
"We got to change something bc what we doing ain't working right now!" - DWill
It's amazing how many steps you can take when you're driving to the basket.
Memo just took 5 steps and got a foul call. But if you shuffle your feet, that’s a travel. Makes no sense.
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 7:34 PM MST reply actions
Not Really
Sort of following on Gamecast…. out in the country with the In Laws the last 4 days or so, so not seeing too much :)
Hopefully you're buckled up.
"We got to change something bc what we doing ain't working right now!" - DWill
He had to have thought there was no time on the clock
Why he would think that though I don’t know.
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 7:54 PM MST up reply actions
What the hell kind of shot was that AK?
He took at 30 foot three with 22 seconds on the clock.
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 7:54 PM MST reply actions
AK
Then took 6 second to foul lebron on the inbounds pass. what was that?
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 7:55 PM MST reply actions
We have it with 9.9 left
Timeout right now.
by Basketball John on Nov 14, 2009 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
I meant
Who takes the shot?
"We got to change something bc what we doing ain't working right now!" - DWill
Unbelievable game.
I have no idea what to make of this team.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
shifting focus..
rsl is headed to OT. dominating the match but can’t break through. it’s still 0-0.
exceeded expectations
At least I’ve backed away from the ledge. I’m encouraged.
by Juan B on Nov 14, 2009 8:02 PM MST via mobile reply actions
maynor is awesome
even deron didn’t play this well as a rook (although he did make that half-court shot his first game)
I am at a loss for words.
We are now 10 games into the season and all we know is that:
1) Maynor and Matthews need more playing time
2) Okur and Boozer shouldn’t play together
3) Millsap is the unheralded difference maker on both ends of the floor this year
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
@ "Basketball John"
“Maybe he’s trying to help the Cavs raise enough cash to keep him? "
The principle owner of the Cavs-Dan Gilbert- is a billionaire in his own right…PLUS the 70 million investment fro the Chinese group doesn’t hurt….BTW Since the Jazz use Veritix we Cavs fans would like to thank you for helping to make it possible to pay the luxury tax…Ever bought a “Fathead”?..thanks again for helping Gilbert pay his players…ummm Quicken Loans??..Rock Financial?…Gilbert companies too… You SLC “fans” praise a two faced, always hurt punk like Boozer but hate on a player the likes of which the league has never before seen….I know I won’t change your mind, and that’s not the point here…I’m just plain sick of people hating because they believe the media reports while having admittedly never seen the object of their hate in person….Well, I have…my son played for one of LeBron’s high school assistant coaches…If it has to do with basketball/kids..he’s right there with money and time to give..I could go on but I’ll just end it with this…do any of you Know who Muhammad Ali is?…How hated was he because he belived he was great?..STILL THE BEST TO EVER ENTER THE RING…and while LeBron has a ways to go where social activism is concerned compared to Ali, his charity toward underprivileged children is exceptional…Just try to be knowledegable on a subject before you go jumping on your soap box next time please
Had you read more comments one this site,
You may have worded that differently. Boozer gets everything but praise from us.
by Bobby Joness on Nov 15, 2009 8:24 AM MST up reply actions
Not in depth
So I guess i should take a little of my own advice…
by cavslandrocks on Nov 15, 2009 9:38 AM MST up reply actions
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