Game Thread - Houston Rockets @ Utah Jazz - 2 November 2009
by Basketball John on Nov 2, 2009 6:30 PM MST
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Houston Rockets at Utah Jazz, Nov 2, 2009 7:00 PM MST
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I know this technically doesn't belong here......
but on the Knicks-watch, the Hornets aren’t doing us any favours at halftime….
anyone else finding themselves almost focusing more on the Knicks than the Jazz sometimes?!?!
my friend we are all closely monitoring our friends from NYC
and it most def belongs here
by UtonganKidInCali on Nov 2, 2009 6:54 PM MST up reply actions
hopefully we get to see some fes/okur on the court
by UtonganKidInCali on Nov 2, 2009 6:58 PM MST reply actions
Fes
I wouldn’t count on too much of him.
j-slow has previously stated that Fes will mostly see time when the Jazz are playing against “true centers”… which the Rockets don’t really use all that often.
We’ll have to see if he sticks to his word or not…
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Its stupid though. Make the other team change their game to fit Fes, I say.
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I don't
watching NJ/CHA “basketball” on LP right now (it’s free, after all)
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Yeah, mine froze too...just retraced my steps from atdhe.net and it's working again
I hate these NBATV games for this very reason, though :(
The problem is that they treat NBATV like a national network with the same blackout restrictions as TNT and ESPN, but not a lot of people have NBATV so they end up leaving a lot of people out in the cold.
The NBA
is run by morons.
Sorry, that’s all I have to say.
(Okay it’s not… seriously though, people will find online feeds. And if not that, it’s not like taking away the feeds will make more people go to the games. I’m not picking one or the other… it’s watch online or more-or-less ignore.)
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What's up ladies and gents?
And yes, we still hate you guys ;-)
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You're still awesome though
Even if you think DWill is better than CP3 ;-)
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U of T, do you think that the Rockets can make the playoffs this year?
Be honest.
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Think they "can"
Yes
Think they will? Hmmm, it really depends on if the 7/8 seeds are down this year from last. I think we’ll finish somewhere in the range of 41-41, with an absolute max of 4 games above .500. So it would need to be easier to get in for that to happen.
The one real caveat is that this is a solid fundamentals team. If Tracy can come back at all from injury my predicition could be low.
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I have to hand it to them.
They play basketball the right way and give it their all. lack of talent but not of effort. I am envious.
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Yep, it is.
We hate the Spurs because we can’t beat them in SA.
Same reason you guys hate us.
Well, kinda…
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Fair enough
But we can’t beat you in Utah because you have the most obvious home court advantage in the league (okay maybe 2nd most behind LA). The difference being your crowd is awesome, and LA is just LA
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And we can't beat SA in SA because
they drug the water or something…
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It's the Tex-Mex
I’m convinced that all the SA players take the opposing teams out for Tequila and Tex Mex the night before every game
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They get taken out of there element though in Utah
And then over-indulge
But good point
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I hate watching the Jazz so far in this game.
I wonder when they will commit to playing defense.
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The ref really missed that call. That ball went right off Lowry's heel.
But Price definitely got away with a travel, so all’s forgiven. The original refs are so much better than the replacement’s. Sarcasm intended.
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Maybe they have a bet to see who would have to call the first travel?
by Basketball John on Nov 2, 2009 7:36 PM MST up reply actions
I can't believe that people are saying that its all fabricated by Donaghy.
Ric Bucher is kind of an a-hole though. he is in complete denial.
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Should be. Am I being unfair against Carlos Boozer? I just can't stand to watch him play anymore.
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And I think Rudy Gay is secretly available. Please go get him.
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Rudy Gay would be a completely different player in the Jazz system though.
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Rudy Gay is a terrible team All Star
He is smoke and mirrors
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I would rather have Martin, but I just don't think he will ever be available.
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What would you do with him?
How would that work with D-Will
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Kevin Martin? he is a shooting guard. deron is a point. I don't see the problem.
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I know, but do you really want to go that small?
And he has the ball in his hands a LOT. Just because they list him as their SG, doesn’t mean he isn’t the defacto point
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How about both of them
alongside Deron, ’Sap & Okur?
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Although, watching Kevin Martin, he seriously plays no defense.
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That seems unfair. They do shoot more jumpers than we do, but I hate free throw disparities like that.
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Um, all 5 Jazz players were there
and they still managed to NOT get the ball.
by DaniellelovesKK on Nov 2, 2009 7:43 PM MST up reply actions
Defensive rebounding is the only skill I admit Boozer is better at than Millsap.
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i think a lot of boozer's boards are uncontested
like when all the other guys are already down the floor. whereas sap fights for every board he gets
19-11 in Houston's favor
Where’s Yao Ming when you need him?
by Basketball John on Nov 2, 2009 7:45 PM MST up reply actions
I would have never guessed that Wesley Matthews would play so much so soon.
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Can't be that one
he wouldn’t have enough guys left on the court.
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Clark...
read your Maynor preview, had to ask… you really think he has j-slow’s trust?
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Yep. He won the starting job in the preseason. that takes some trust. He is the number one backup point guard right now.
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Agreed
but you listen to j-slow after the game, and …
I mean, which coach comes out and apologizes for putting in the back-up PG? I mean, is he hoping to destroy his confidence or something?
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Maynor hasn't played well at all.
he doesn’t deserve any love. But he knows that. He is a veteran for a rookie. I am telling you.
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the other side of the coin is
maynor didn’t play well and sloan was asying it was his fault for putting him in that situation
Only because
Price is the back-up SG… and he can’t play 2 positions at once.
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You can run on the Jazz. that shouldn't be so true with such small players on the court.
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They are going to be in disarray all season. They just aren't good, other than Paul and West. Crappy shooters.
And Omeka Okafor isn’t good. Scott will be the first coach fired this season and they may miss the playoffs.
Who is the only playoff team we beat on the road last year? that says something.
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two in addition to the three they already got.
by Basketball John on Nov 2, 2009 7:51 PM MST up reply actions
There is no reason not to be playing Fes right now.
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He's a small forward that is big
That’s why he’s “underrated”. But I’d guess most would put him in the top 10 pretty easily though
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The Jazz are letting the Rockets shoot too many treys w/ good looks
one of the things I mentioned they had to avoid.
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I wish they'd read my game preview
maybe then they’d know what to do.
B/c j-slow isn’t getting the point across.
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The Jazz should try a new defensive tactic. Just stay in front of you man.
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He plays extremely hard for every second he's on the floor
And he has a special place in my heart because he was what we got for Rafer Alston
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He's strong and quick. Sort of a poor man's Deron Williams.
If he had a jumper, he would be something special.
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He has good court vision
But DWill has epic court vision
Pretty solid call though, he really is basically a little off from DWill
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Rafer Alston
just watched the Nets/Bobcats “game”, and I have to say… he’s not very good.
Of course, when the announcers mention that missing Jarvis Hayes & Keyon Dooling is affecting your ‘veteran presence’, something is really, really wrong
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The Rockets make great front office moves for the most part. I'm jealous again.
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I am laughing all the time at the media though
I’ve read 2-3 columns in the last week saying the Lakers won the Artest/Ariza swap
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Absolutely ridiculous. The way you know that is by all of the Laker fans who are looking for people to validate the move.
If it was such a good deal, Laker fans wouldn’t talk about it so much.
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Williams leads the Jazz in rebounds
Boozer in assists. Hmmm, I might know what is going wrong this game
Memo is really harnessing the spirit of Gordan Giricek
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So the Jazz have played 10 quarters and 3 good quarters of defense. that's a good portion, right?
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If Chuck Hayes scores his career high on you guys
You’ll NEVER live it down. I don’t care if we lose by 40
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Linas Kleiza.
Some D-League guy (or 2) with the Warriors last year.
Things like that happen all the time.
It’s part of what makes j-slow’s “emphasis” on defense so great.
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I'm telling you. This isn't Sloan's fault. Look at what his guys are doing.
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At some point
either sloan needs to change, or they need to start looking for different players to bring in.
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We gave up like 43 points to Charlie Villanueva last season. We have been there.
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Please
that free throw had no chance, regardless. It’s Chuck Hayes!!!
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The thing that I hate about Boozer on offense right now...
is that his touches take away from everyone else who should be getting more touches…like…
Kirilenko, Brewer, Okur, Millsap, etc.
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And...
me, you, moni, bbj, j-slow, uoftorange, frank5, danielle, etc.
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by UtesFan89 on Nov 2, 2009 8:07 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I mean, Boozer had a "bounce back game" last game with 22 points or whatever.
On 22 freaking shots! That’s a tracy McGrady game folks.
slam on McGrady, intended, UofTOrange.
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Here is my new trade proposal.
The jazz trade Boozer to Memphis for Gay and Jaric. The Grizzlies would do this in a heartbeat.
Then the Jazz buy Jaric’s contract out, but force he and his wife to attend games in their swimsuits. Everybody wins.
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lol
Booze + Z-Bo in the same frontcourt?
That could get ugly.
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Don't make us warn you. that is a serious asking for a jinx.
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I repeat...Boozer has no feel for double teams.
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You can't be seriously complaining about refs in this game
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Okay cool
Though I do like Okur, and yes, that was hard to say
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Has that ever actually happened?
I don’t remember ever hearing it. Of course Rockets leads in Utah (post 96 or so) are pretty rare
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We don't need another PF
But you almost got me there
I’ll take Brewer though straight up
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No good
we can’t just be giving away wings. We only have like 2 right now.
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Yeah...
we have our own injured wing that can’t make shots when we need them most.
Actually, we have 2… (ducks)
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Boozer looks retarded out there.
And I apologize to anybody who’s actually retarded for the comparison.
Seriously, this is freaking ridiculous
This should be a 15 point blow out right now if it wasn’t for these calls
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Stop complaining
these are the “good” refs, not the crappy replacement ones. ;)
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This is honestly one of the worst officiated games I can ever remember watching
Just horrific
And usually I’m not a ref whiner, but this is pathetic
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Conspiracy theories for the win!
I still think Ewing to NY was pre-planned… (and LBJ to Cleveland?)
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You just got a foul call when Landry wasn't within a foot of AK
And simply because he missed a dunk
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What's sad is that the NBA
seems to have one of those games like every other week
(of course, I can’t comment on this one… not watching it)
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yeah plenty of time
They’re reviewing if it was a three.
by Basketball John on Nov 2, 2009 8:54 PM MST up reply actions
i can't believe the calls you guys are getting
calling fouls for flopping and falling down when not pushed is one thing, but when you guys miss a dunk or lay up untouched, they call it AFTER yall miss the shot. unbelievable. we are going to have to get a miracle to win this game.
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NBA refs do that alot
re: calling a foul AFTER the play has occurred. Very, very annoying, I must admit.
It’s almost like “if you miss, you were definitely fouled”
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The officiating has been bad, but Deron Williams is getting hammered a lot too without calls.
We just want consistency.
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one question to you guys
do yall agree with the ref’s calls? and please dont give me that bull shit,“we’ll take them.”
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Given that I'm not seeing the game
all I can say is “we’ll take them”.
But in all seriousness, the thing is… if the Jazz were on the road, the fouls would be in the opposite direction, but similar. It’s like the refs are afraid that they’ll get attacked…
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I really do credit your crowd
It is the best in the NBA, with only the Warriors (when winning) rivaling it. But I also credit Joey Crawford being a douche
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He's not the only douche there though
it’s hard to find a NBA ref that isn’t one…
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Can't do it
how dare he go this long without picking up even a single foul?
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cmon dude really?
you been seeing the calls against us?
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by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 2, 2009 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe
but they have this thing where they refuse to call fouls when guys like Deron/Brewer/’Sap get hacked going in. I mean…
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they are missing calls for both teams, but mainly for us.
u see ak 47 miss the dunk untouched and get called for the foul. and i will go back to that call forever. just simply inexcusable.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 2, 2009 9:03 PM MST up reply actions
The thing is
the refs can’t always see everything we see on replay.
So if a guy looks like he’s been hit (aka they act/flop), they’ll call a foul.
The problem is when the guy has been hit, and they act like nothing happened.
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I HATE that officiating
Either you saw the foul or you didn’t see the foul. If you didn’t see it and are just reacting, you are making the wrong call 100% of the time, because that is not your job
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wow wat a terrible call, definitely a block
theres another thing when they just called a bs call against yall.
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Benches...
Jazz: 3-11, 1-4 FT, 11 points.
Rockets: 10-23, 1-2, 28 points.
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the refs are giving you plenty lol
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by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 2, 2009 9:03 PM MST up reply actions
Okay we get it. You don't like the officiating. Got anything else for us?
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sorry its just the calls are comically horrible.
ill stop referring to the refs over and over. my bad.
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by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 2, 2009 9:05 PM MST up reply actions
We are standing around again. Looks like the 4th quarter in Denver.
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I may stop watching the Jazz play until Boozer gets traded.
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Do y'all really think it's inevitable?
He’s playing his value WAY down
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I don't think he will be traded. And it pisses me off above nothing else.
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Yep.
Curious, earlier this off-season, what was the Jazz/Pistons rumor? Booze for Prince or Rip?
Wasn’t there talk of it being close but one of the teams saying no?
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Well
that was just stupid of us.
Sorry, that’s my thoughts.
KOC can carry on with the “continuity is king” mission now.
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I would rather tear the team apart every so many years to build up to a championship.
I am tired of being an above average team
Okay... they keep getting offensive rebounds
and the tallest guys they have on the floor are 6’7
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chase budinger was a ginormous steal for us.
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morey never fails :)
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by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 2, 2009 9:09 PM MST up reply actions
I seriously hate the Jazz. I am checking out for the rest of the season.
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Liar
You know you;ll be back when they go on a run whifch they always do
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I don't care if they win. I can't be a supporter of this.
They play with zero heart and cohesiveness.
I can’t support Boozer at all.
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Well, BBJ, I am currently writing the Paul Millsap preview, but it may have a different flavor than you were expecting.
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what happened to boozer?
he used to be amazing.
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He doesn't care anymore
He’s simply there because he had no chance for double digit money anywhere else
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man hes gettin killed too
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by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 2, 2009 9:11 PM MST up reply actions
So
The Koof & Fesenko have played a combined 0 minutes tonight. WHAT! THE! ****?
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if there is ever a time for a jazz run
its now or yall are finished
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Announcers just said...
“This has the potential to be a run away for the Rockets.”
Hi, you’re down 18 with 5 minutes.
It's re: Sloan extension (again), but Miller said this...
"I’d rather be criticized for being consistent and building on a foundation that’s worked for us over the years," Miller said, "and try to improve on that than I would by being hair-triggered and just a flavor-of-the-month club."
My question is… WHAT does he mean by “worked”? Isn’t the point to win Championships, not just make the playoffs?
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i'm still in disbelief
you guys were wrecking the nuggets (until 4th quarter) but still you guys were beating them. i thought you guys could be a 4 or 5 seed. and the jazz losing at home is a rare sight.
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So, the question now...
do you want the Jazz to sell low on Boozer?
Or keep him until he builds his value up (or let him go via FA if he doesn’t)?
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Guys, you are failing to realize that the Jazz are currently pretending that is great Boozer is here.
there was just an article today about the Jazz considering resigning him.
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Boozer for a can of Tuna!
Anyone, anyone.
Anyone willing to send me a can of Tuna for Boozer. Please?
Who in the world
would want to take Boozer from you though?
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i would love them to re sign boozer
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by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 2, 2009 9:19 PM MST up reply actions
lowry is doing a hell of a job on d will
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I would just like to let you know
that, playing taller than he is or not, 6’6 C Chuck Hayes has more rebounds than anyone on the Jazz save Booze.
Speaking of Booze, any chance we trade him to a less anti-booze state for the price of a 6-pack?
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I don't spend money like at all
and I’d pitch in for that effort.
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you guys are that desperate?
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by Rockets 4 Life on Nov 2, 2009 9:21 PM MST up reply actions
You know how it was for the Rockets
you had T-Mac & Yao, but no “3rd guy” and it wasn’t enough to win it all (against Lakers/Celtics/etc.) and you knew that (at least subconsciously)?
Yeah… same thing here.
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do not underestimate the chuck wagon :)
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Fesenko & Koufos.
Finally!
I love how j-slow plays to the Rockets height instead of trying to make them counter a pair of 7-footers.
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wow where was fesenko all night
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He was
too tall for Jerry to play against your team of “not true centers”.
I’m not even making that up.
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If the Jazz resign Boozer after the season
I’m done. Seriously.
I’d rather watch the Bobcats. At least it’s funny to see them shooting 25% at half-time… (and winning!)
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a sweet 17 point win in utah is something :D
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We, as fans, are really sorry
that the Jazz couldn’t give you a better game.
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gg fellas
we’ll see yall next game. peace.
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4th Quarter Ineptitude
the new ‘3rd Quarter Collapse’
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RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Maybe I'll be able to to see something good from this tomorrow ...
but right now I say the season’s over unless they trade Boozer (and maybe some other big-time change). That was awful. Their chemistry has been poisoned to the point of no return. The fans hate Boozer so much that ESA isn’t much of a home court advantage anymore.
KOC these are desperate times!!!!
And what kills me
is how much I love some of the guys (AK, D-Will, Millsap, Okur).
I just want to kick something.
KOC likes his consistency
the team needs to add a wing that can be counted on.
And a lot of bench help.
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RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Our home wins are going down each year
Our “consistency” is done and we are fighting to make the playoffs
We should tank the season. Get two lottery picks.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Earn it ourselves?
Meaning we should tank the season for a lottery pick?
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RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
how sorry
we are with Boozer!! he is still a black cloud, I dont care what noone says, the Jazz are worse with him, why cant this be acknowledged?? He has a nonchalant approach to defense and it rubs everyone the wrong way, especially us fans…he has to vamoose!!
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