Game Thread & Preview - Oklahoma City Thunder @ Utah Jazz
by Basketball John on Nov 24, 2009 6:36 PM MST
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Oklahoma City Thunder at Utah Jazz, Nov 24, 2009 7:00 PM MST
So if the season is a marathon, you can't really say that OKC is breathing down our neck. Right now, everyone is still relatively packed. The Thunder though are just a 1/2 game back of the Jazz right now and could hang around a lot longer this season.
They're tough on D being ranked 7th in the league in defensive efficiency. They've alternates wins and losses over their last 5 games with the last one a loss @LAL. Let's hope the trend doesn't continue.
All of their losses have come against the top teams in the league save for Ls to the Kings and Clippers. Even then, the loss to the Kings was when Sac. was playing really well. The Clippers can be a pretty good team. They've also beaten the Magic, the Heat, and the Spurs. This team is just on the cusp of becoming a very good team. As they gain another year of experience, they're going to be trouble. They're just another reason why the NW division could become the best in the league. Of course there's Minnesota, but they've had a lot of injuries.
The Jazz will have Memo return tonight to give the Jazz a little depth. Although, they have been playing well without him. Hopefully Yeliz has that baby soon.
Enjoy the game and be thinking of me watching badly animated werewolves.
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Another blackout on NBA League Pass. For what I payed for this it is a ripoff.
LP
I considered it for half a second. But every Jazz game during the free preview was blacked out, so that went by the wayside.
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what is up with the blackout?
I haven’t had a game blacked out yet this year on NBA league pass. Now all of a sudden this one is.
All games on national TV are blacked out
And unfortunately, NBATV is considered national TV, even though it seems like very few people get that channel.
Memo travels a lot this season. He has such awkward footwork though.
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nope
Memo’s defense stinks. Boozer’s is embarrassing. His defense is mostly yelling at Memo for help.
That was Boozer doing some ventriliquism
Since Millsap’s playing well, Boozer wants us to all remember what his presence could still give us when he comes back in.
PAULIE
Playing much better tonight.
Think this is gonna be a high scoring game. Neither team all that interested in defense.
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Just wait til Fesenko comes in. Then all scoring will stop.
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As if Harden already didn't look like he was 40.
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Maynor only plays well when Deron isn't playing so far this year.
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Now Boozer has an excuse for not challenging any shots with two fouls.
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You know AK's turned a corner
When I’m almost kind of excited to see him take a jump shot like that.
I turned a corner once...
turned too early though, ran into a wall and had to get stitches like a half-inch above my eye. Bit lower, and I’d have been blind.
Moral… don’t turn the corner too quickly. Or at least make sure you know where you re first.
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Mentioned it in my preview, but something to keep an eye on...
the Thunder’s leading rebounders are KD, Green, Sefolosha & Westbrook/Krstic (tied)… in that order.
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AK looks like a completely different player. Fantastic stuff.
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Jeff Green is being a tough matchup for Millsap.
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I've never ever seen AK attack the basket as aggresively as he is right now.
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We played great defense that time down the court...but only for 22 seconds.
You have to finish the possession.
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I just don't get why no one challenged Kristic's shot. They were fantastic and then everyone just watched him shoot an open jumper.
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John Wall had 15, 6, and 4 tonight. On only 5 shots.
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um...
do you guys see that scrolling news thing on the bottom saying memo is questionable for this game? someone is not doing their job
Guys, go check out this story at sltrib
http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_13860954
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that's what we call
a web editor who didn’t pay close enough attention. I’ve done similar things before. Considering the volume of stories that have to be plowed through, it’s not a surprise.
And the Latin gibberish is placeholder text.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Before you write a story, you put latin text just to fill it up to see how it fills the screen.
And I am guessing that the title is just filler as well and before it got published, they forgot to change the title and line in Latin.
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yup.
In the course of any given shift, I have to read/edit/write headlines for at least 200 articles or photos. At least. I’m lucky if only one has an error like that.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
reading the story about pollin
reminded me a lot of lhm. hands-on loyal owner that risked everything to build an arena.
and see Fess channel his inner Bruce Bowen
I’d love to see him do a ninja kick on someone. It’d even be cool if he accidentally got someone.
What?
Did someone get hurt?
Or are you just “oh dear”ing the D?
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the (_)efense
that open short got extra #$%#@%$^ points because we’d already seen that open shot like 5 times tonite
Memo's moving surprisingly well on offense.
… and we still can’t guard anybody.
*reminds self of RSL’s championship so as not to start throwing things
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Keep reminding yourself...
you said you had 1 week due to the RSL win… we’re only like 2 days in.
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slow would rather forfeit
than consider running
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yes indeed.
Sans there is nothing to rebound though…..
Every shot seems to hit the bottom of the hoop for them!
Glad to see that no one is scared about playing in Utah anymore. Our home court mystic is gone.
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The good news is that we play as well on the road as at home this season.
But the bad news is that the level of play isn’t really good at either place.
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That's not to take away from OKC though.
They’ve built a solid team that’ll just get better (which can’t be good for us). Of course, they need to find bigs…
That said… yeah… playing in Utah is much easier for other teams now.
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They are playing really hard on defense all of the sudden, but it's going to be about 2 quarters too late.
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You need to defend people at the first of the game, so they lose confidence.
Now, the Thunder just know they can hit shots.
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on the bright side
NYK will be owned at staples center tonight
we're not in the lakers' league right now
i’ll be cheering for them to beat the knicks.
by bigdog'sshades on Nov 24, 2009 8:44 PM MST up reply actions
Anyone else monitoring the Caron Butler situation?
I once thought he would be untouchable, but now…. way to go Agent 0. Alienate your all-star running mate.
how many years does he have on his contract?
by bigdog'sshades on Nov 24, 2009 8:44 PM MST up reply actions
Via RealGM
“For the most part, we all get along,” Arenas said. “There are, what, 15 players on the team? Fourteen do. … At the end of the day, if 15 players don’t want to go and it’s only 14, you’ve seen ‘Remember the Titans.’ It’s the same thing. We’ve just got to play.”
When asked who was responsible for ending the in-fighting, Arenas said, “Me and Antawn [Jamison]. That’s our jobs [as captains].”
He conveniently left Butler, the third co-captain, out.
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what an idiot
butler is their best player
by bigdog'sshades on Nov 24, 2009 8:48 PM MST up reply actions
The bigger deal is that the Wizards are in the luxury tax situation and 4-9.
So if they are out of the playoffs near the trading deadline, they will be more likely to shed long term contracts for our expiring contracts.
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Okay, WTF?
Harden & ’Sap have been silent for too long.
Go do something, you guys!
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We just aren't mentally where we need to be. We get too satisfied with our effort/ win streaks too quickly.
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ole, ole ole ole, Real Salt Lake...
(I have to keep repeating this in my head)
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That was a very awsome game!
Oh and I really don’t like the game, (due to ignorance of it), I’m sure.
a popular opinion
you wouldn’t believe the antagonism soccer brings on the desnews website, for no apparent reason.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
even though the jazz kinda suck this year
it has been fun having 2 favorite teams (jazz + whoever plays the knicks). at least one of my teams has been doing well.
Oh, by the way...
that Warriors over Mavs game (Dubs win by 8), the Dubs used a total of 6 players.
6.
Think about that.
Now go cry.
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Why, because they did the same thing to the Jazz last year?
Maybe Keith Smart should get half a roster and call it an expansion team.
Yeah, but the Jazz
weren’t first place in their division and 0.5 games out of 1st in the West.
They were slumping.
The Mavs weren’t.
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I still miss Miles and Korver.
Just to open up the offense a bit. When we had Fes, Brewer, Maynor, Millsap, and AK our jumpshooting prospects were ugly at best.
Of course, if you can’t stop anyone, it’s a moot point.
We can't blame this loss on Boozer as much as I would like to.
Just a poor defensive effort in general. Except for Millsap who, at times, has been guarding 2-3 men on any one possession.
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So this...
Booze & ‘Sap v. Jeff Green thing doesn’t seem like it’s worked really well.
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Jeff Green
is a super tough matchup, period. I’d love him on the Jazz.
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But he also has to guard the Pau Gasols and Lamarcus Aldridge's and Amare Stoudemires of the league.
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on the other hand
if we hadn’t given them 5 wide open threes that they made, we might have a shot at winning this game
Millsap got hit on that turn around jumper. No call.
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He's gonna be getting that often
I’m pretty sure slow hates his guts
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Good thing we don't have a "hurry up offense" to speak of.
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I know he made them, but both of those last shots by Boozer, aren't good shots.
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The Thunder are in the penalty and only one good thing can happen when you shoot that shot.
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First of all, it's the most inefficient shot in the game. Secondly, he wasn't set and there is a zero percent chance of drawing a foul or an offensive rebound.
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An open 10-footer?
That should be automatic if you’re 6’9".
I do agree with your rebound issues though.
The second one was challenged. If you are "open" it is more understandable.
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I want to hear the Booze say that
You want the Booze to get a win?
Let me tell you about the Booze.
That’s not how the Booze operates.
The Booze does his own damn thing.
You go tell ’em how the Booze does it.
the booze is going to foul out
before he has a chance to recite the speech he clearly stole from the koof
Seven turnovers in the 4th quarter alone. No secret what the problem is.
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Boozer with his first deflection of the game
by Brigadier Pudding on Nov 24, 2009 9:16 PM MST reply actions
Don't call those deflections
The Booze don’t do no deflections
The Booze waves his arms around and flaps around like a drunk peacock
If the Booze gets a deflection, it’s cause the other guy threw the ball weird.
He's playing with so much passion right now. The whole team is urgent. Need to learn to do that to start games.
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Folks. Right now we are the 4th best team in the Northwest Division. Stew on that for awhile.
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But don't make any trades or try to change anything
They’re just about ready to turn the corner
Just like the SA win was going to change everything
Just for the record. I have had the trade stance the entire season. I have not believed in this team as constituted yet.
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Dude, me too
I’m the can o’ Tuna advocate
I’m the Boozer and Memo for Marc Gasol, Brooke Lopez, anyone advocate
The Dallas game was enough for me to see, no matter how much I’d hope otherwise, that this team would never ever work.
Booze. AK. Brewer. Harp's contract.
They’re not “must have’s” for other teams, but there would be interest.
Well, except maybe AK…
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There are a hanful of them according to league executives. It's the Jazz who aren't dancing at the moment.
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But what're we gonna pickup?
A long-term, keep us over the cap next year contract? I mean, those value chips as expirings are just as important to us, you’d think.
And nobody wants $17 mil of AK.
They just need to go bargain hard...
no FAs are coming here anyways. If we can pick up good players (Butler, whatever), go for it.
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I understand the financial implications, but I don't want the front office to act like they are sacrificing to win by keeping Boozer around.
Keeping Boozer is strictly financial. But you can make a trade and save 3-6 million this season and only add 8-10 million next season. I would rather see them go strictly financial if the team isn’t capable of competing for more than a last playoff spot.
It sounds dumb, but I would rather miss the playoffs than be a 6-8 seed.
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I wonder what the financial benefits of a couple playoff games are..
As opposed to missing out. I hear what you’re saying… there’s no reason to peak as a 7 seed.
The team would shake their head at me, because the playoffs are cash cows, but for the long term, it would be better to have a lottery pick this season.
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This year, yes. Probably. But it's a fair point.
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I think I'd cry.
Wall.
Favors.
The guy from WF.
And I like Evan Turner, personally.
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The thing is...
we go PF, does ’Sap throw a fit?
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No. He would be the starter with Favors being the backup. Just like Griffin will start on the bench this season.
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But how long can you keep
a top-5 pick on the bench like that?
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Yeah, but
in his 2nd season, do you still leave him on the bench? How about the 3rd? Or do you wait for a ’Sap hot streak & trade him too (which the Jazz would never do)?
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I guess Sap could play more 3
Since AK’s contract will be gone. Honeslty, I hope we have the problem to worry about.
You just dropped us
from #1 & #2 to like #1 and #13. You think the Knicks are going to improve that much?
;)
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We would draft Wall and Favors in a second, and be title contenders for the next 10 years.
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True
but 1st & 2nd is highly unlikely.
If we want D, there is E3’s college teammate Larry Sanders. Not much offensively, but a solid defensive-minded big w/ potential.
Aka, in slow’s mind, a NBDL & then FA guy.
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Don't get me wrong...
Some sort of change (coaching philosophy??) would be a God-send, but I just don’t see how it gets done without causing long-term issues. I’m still interested to see what happens with CJ/KK back.
Coaching philosophy
not happening until we go out of the system to hire a coach. AKA never
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Easy ... go to the teams always willing to do a stupid trade
Dreadful teams with lousy management and players who aren’t quite the superstars their teams wish they were:
Memphis
Washington
Milwaukee
Clippers
Bobcats
New Jersey
Minnesota
Well, we got an unprotected 1st rounder
& Tom Gugliotta for Ben Hadlogten & Keon Clark…
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um...do we have david stern on our side?
that deal would not have happened if the lakers hadn’t been involved.
In other words...
thank god Minny hasn’t had the jump OKC has had this season.
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Deron is trying too hard.
That last pass was awful.
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Bird always put up 3-5 disgustingly bad shots per game
Deron’s always going to give up 1-3 more turnovers than he should. It’s just the way he is.
Bolerjack and Boone make my ears bleed
by Brigadier Pudding on Nov 24, 2009 9:21 PM MST reply actions
Boozer padding the stats like his girlfriend pads her bra.
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Kristic has the worst hair in the league
by Brigadier Pudding on Nov 24, 2009 9:22 PM MST reply actions
I would give up Booz and Brewer (and I am a Brewer fan) to get Butler.
Thats all it would take right now. For the love of the game, FO do something!
Changes...
start simple. Start AK, bring Brewer off of the bench. Maybe bring Booze off the bench (he doesn’t show up till the 4th anyways) to have something on the bench.
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To think...
we were 1 pick (1 pick!) away from having Thabo Sefolosha, who was considered a good defender coming out.
Of course, he would probably never have played under slow, but still…
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Sefo
better defender. And maybe even a better jump-shooter, though I’m not certain about that.
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WOW!
I just got home and caught the end of the game. That was a huge mistake.
Can the front office PLEASE make a trade already! What the hell is it going to take?!?
Z-Bo!
At least the comedy level would go up, with slow/Z-Bo fighting every second of the game.
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so glad I didn't tune in much tonight
I used Gamecast for updates.
I like Gamecast for ugly losses—it’s nice not to be able to see the suckiness.
Entertaining thread tonight—loved the ( )efense comments.
If this is all we can expect this season, bring on the offseason. This is what it’s like to be a Knicks fan I guess.
by Juan B on Nov 24, 2009 11:12 PM MST via mobile reply actions
at least the knicks had isiah to blame
we can complain about the FO all we want, but we can’t honestly say that they have done a terrible job or run the franchise into the ground. although i am seriously at the point where i would trade boozer for tmac, and he’s one of my least favorite players out there.
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