The Downbeat - 9 November 2009 - #96 - The Big Apple Today Takes the Injuries Away Edition

by Basketball John on Nov 9, 2009 10:08 AM MST in The Downbeat Comment 10 comments

1_medium Korver and Miles are set to visit the doctor this morning for their respective injuries. Miles should be getting his cast off and Korver will be having his knee re-evaluated. Though I'm sure there are plenty of women along the Wasatch Front that would have given him a free evaluation.

Anyway, since we have nothing to look forward to as far as a trade or other moves, getting these two back is about as much as we're going to get. Not that I'm not excited to get them back, but is it going to be too little, too late for the season?

2_medium The team is of course in NYC today. I wonder how much of their road woes has to do with playing in a small market like Utah. Salt Lake is a great place to live and work, etc. But playing in places like NY, LA, and Boston must harden you a bit. As much criticism as the Jazz have received this year, imagine if these same players and expectations were in a big market. In Salt Lake, you have a couple of newspapers that might say something whereas in a big market, there are dozens.

So when the Jazz play on the road, maybe the bright lights and pressure of playing in a big market affects them a bit? So when those that are used to playing in a a bigger spotlight go on the road, suddenly San Antonio or Phoenix or most everywhere else doesn't seem that big.

8_medium I couldn't bring myself to watch the Kings game. I shouldn't have checked in at all with the scores and the game thread. I did watch the last 6 minutes where the Jazz put up their typical tease and make it seem like they could come back, but deep down you knew it wasn't going to happen.

4_medium If the Jazz lose tonight, it will be 2-3X as maddening. One, they would have lost to a terrible team, again. Second, if they're going to pick up a road win on this trip, NY or Philly would be their best bets. Though, they did beat Boston a couple years back. And most importantly, if they drop one to the Knicks, they're shooting themselves in the foot in regards to the 2010 pick next season. It would suck to have the Knicks make the playoffs by one game.

5_medium I haven't seen any word on it yet, but All-star voting should be starting this week if you look to when it started last season. I'll be covering it more on VoteDeron.com, but get your clickers ready.

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Please.. a win tonight I pray

1. As much as I would love for the Jazz to rebound from this horrible start, I really don’t see it happening. Even with KK and CJ, this team is at best a 7-8 seed. They lack the mental toughness and on-court chemistry to be an elite team night in and night out. We’ll probably see flashes of it here and there, but nothing consistently.

2. I don’t know what their problem is on the road. But I do agree that they don’t get hounded as much here as they would in NY or Boston. If SLC were a bigger market, O’Connor wouldn’t have a job and/or Boozer would be gone by now. The media wouldn’t give them a pass like the soft SLC media do.

8. Was out of town and didn’t have access to this game either. WITH Martin, the Kings are the worst team in the league, and the Jazz got run by that sans-Martin team at home. Suddenly the ESA doesn’t seem so scary for opposing teams does it. Budinger doesn’t seem to think so.

4. I have to keep telling myself that the Jazz will lose this game no matter what. That is the only way I can stay sane. If they win, fantastic! I’d be glad to be wrong. When they lose, I saw it coming—oh well.

5. Can you imagine where this team would be if Deron hadn’t been playing out of his mind? Keep it up Deron. You got my vote(s).

Whitewater In The Morning

by neff on Nov 9, 2009 10:55 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

2. / 4. What’s up with the Korver trade clause? Which first round pick did we promise? Hope its not the NY one.
Right now it almost seems like we don’t really need NYN’s pick coz we are playing like a lottery team. I hope this changes.

8. Am so glad I didn’t GET to see the game.

by iLoveBooks100per on Nov 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Our first round pick goes to Minnesota via Philly because of the trade.

The Knicks pick is ours, but if we as a team finish outside of the lottery, then our pick goes to Minnesota. If we finish in the lottery, then we would get two lottery picks. The Knicks pick and our own.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Nov 9, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

time to tank

seriously lets tank the season. two lottery picks and no boozer next year. I wish I had a time machine.

by jake1ar on Nov 9, 2009 12:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

sadly, if the jazz tanked this season

it’d be easier to take than if they continue meandering down their current path

by moni on Nov 9, 2009 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

As a fan

I would actually not be that disappointed. I would be thrilled to death about two lotteries. As long as I had Boozer to blame for the crappy season.

by Bobby Joness on Nov 9, 2009 5:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't forget...

Araujo, Kwame Brown, Mike Dunleavy and Marvin Williams were lottery picks.

You want to throw away a season for a chance? I’d say, just hope NYN has a bad season.

by iLoveBooks100per on Nov 10, 2009 10:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

1. KK and Miles might help to spread the floor more, but if we don’t play any defense then having them back won’t do much. If memory serves me right neither one is a great defender.

2. Sure it effects them. Having Jay-Z, Beyonce, Spike Lee, Derek Jeter, and Eli Manning sitting courtside has a different effect then having the crazy doctor guy, Gail Miller, and some guy who won courtside seats from his company work party. Bright lights and bigger names effects you. Think back to when you played in High School. Having the hottest chick in school at the games watching effected you a lot more than having Bertha the school valedictorian. You wanted to get her attention so you were doing more things to draw attention then sticking to the game plan.

8. I had guests this weekend but managed to sneak a bit of the game in. My mistake. I tuned in towards the end of the first quarter and then tuned in towards the beginning of the 4th. WOW!

4. If we lose to the Knicks… I don’t know what I will do… I might change my loyalty for this season. I upgraded my Dish package to watch all the games on FSN. Well, I might just cancel my FSN subscription! Yes it’s that bad!!! (That was my weak attempt at sarcastic humor)

5. I’ll vote for him

side note – any new Boozer trade rumors?? Tayshaun has a bad back, Tyrus Thomas is out for 4-6 weeks. Who do we trade for now? Bring on the can of tuna.

by P_Dizzle on Nov 9, 2009 11:38 AM MST reply actions 0 recs