Preview/Game Thread - Los Angeles Lakers @ Utah Jazz
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 5:10 PM MST
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Los Angeles Lakers at Utah Jazz, Dec 12, 2009 7:00 PM MST
Not too much more to say since we just played them a couple of days ago. Here's my preview from that.
The updates are mostly injuries. Kobe Bryan injured a finger on his shooting hand against Minnesota but returned to the game to play. He's expected to play tonight.
We could see Price AND Korver AND AK return tonight. How crazy would that be? Price has already said he's suiting up while Korver and AK seem to be game-time decisions. In order of likelihood of suiting up it look like we would start with Price, then Korver, then AK. Siler has all the updates.
The past couple of years including the playoffs the Jazz have almost always had three good quarters against the Lakers but have been atrocious in one quarter that does them in. It's been the first quarter in a lot of cases and of course Wednesday's historically bad collapse.
Maybe I should have renamed this blog CanOnlyPlay36minutes.com. It goes without saying that the Jazz will have to play 48 minutes to get the job done tonight.
Remember when Kobe sucked in the playoffs? Those were the days. I'll relish those airballs forever.
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BBJ thanks for posting the jinx rules
Good reminder.
By the way, the Knicks are streaking right now. Wouldn’t be suprised to see them make the playoffs. Oh well, there go our hopes for a high lottery pick.
by Juan B on Dec 12, 2009 5:17 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Yeah
That’s why I hesitate to say anything about the Knicks pick. Jinxing.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 6:16 PM MST up reply actions
Right, I'm officially confused...
We can only make statements of fact, right? Can’t say anything that will ‘put the mockers on’ as we say down here?
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Right
So you can comment on scores, etc. but not with any inclination of whether it’s a good or bad thing.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 6:15 PM MST up reply actions
Like this?
Twitter tells me that Kobe said himself he has a broken finger.
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WHAT THE HECK?
League Pass is showing Denver – PHX where it should be showing us. Argh.
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There's Hot Rod
Just fist-bumped Kobe. Bleech.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:11 PM MST reply actions
Ugh...
Made me want to throw up.
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Haven't been following the Hot Rod situation
Did he voluntarily retire or was he forced out? Anyone know?
They said he stepped down
I understand he just wanted to do home games so that he didn’t have to travel. The Jazz wanted all or nothing.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:13 PM MST up reply actions
D-Will
Needs to just abuse Derek Fisher tonight. No way Fish can keep up with him.
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The Jazz need to abuse the right index finger of #24.
Smack smack smack with all our newly available fouls/players.
How about showing the game instead of the keys to the game
We just missed a Jazz possession.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:14 PM MST reply actions
I love for the announcers to stay focused on the game at hand.
Across the board. Seems they can find anything in the world to discuss except the game in front of them.
Same with all those graphics.
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Sloppy passes so far
Kobe dropping way off Brewer
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:15 PM MST reply actions
Do you have the LA feed or UT?
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Glad to see Matthews knocking down a couple
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:18 PM MST reply actions
Nice to see...
that he has his confidence going. He has struggled a little recently, so it’s nice to see him coming out firing.
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New @ ESA
The Jazz added the shot clock/clock on the back of the basket. Also went with the flat 24 sec clock up top.
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Why can't they call that blocking foul regardless of the shot?
He wasn’t gonna call it until he missed that. Frustrates the hell outta me.
They do that all the time
Usually after the other team is going the other way with the ball
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:24 PM MST up reply actions
Dish Network HD
Does anyone one locally in Utah hav dish network? the low definition is working, but HD is not showing anything, anyone know why?
Got dish, got HD, but not tonight.
Don’t know the why’s just seems to be the way things are from time to time.
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Can't F with the almighty set in stone rotations!
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I could watch the Jazz run cuts all night.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:25 PM MST reply actions
Is it bad...
That I thought the same thing about the inbounds plays? It really is basketball at its best.
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Jazz need to pass the ball faster
LA is getting time to recover when they’re swinging it.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:28 PM MST reply actions
Love when the trailing ref calls a foul like that
When he can’t see anything. BS>
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:30 PM MST reply actions
Amazingly consistent they get the call WRONG!!!!!
That is why there are three of them NO?
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agree
bynum is getting anything he wants against memo
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 7:32 PM MST up reply actions
someone on the jazz team (i think it was pace)
just informed us kobe had had diarrhea all day.
thanks a lot.
Laptop is getting sleepy...
Am now commenting from the BlackBerry. Let’s see how this goes.
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 7:32 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I guess they like the green uniforms
I wonder if the marketing dept. does surveys to choose that or if it’s the players’ choice.
I'll make it coach.
so whoever is commentating with hot rod
isn’t even letting him talk!!! the guy is a yapper and interrupted hot rod when they were going to break.
it’s all so wrong.
Don't use up all the offense in the first half boys.
We need some for the fourth
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:40 PM MST reply actions
Makes PHX's start even more impressive,
When you realize that they have played the fewest home games in the Association.
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 7:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Crowd...
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 7:43 PM MST via mobile reply actions
That's the most we'll see him tonight
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:45 PM MST up reply actions
I'd be ok with that...
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 7:46 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
One on one with the big men isn't working
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:48 PM MST reply actions
Nope gonna have to make the j's tonight!
Those trees down in the paint.
Boozer seems tiny!
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by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:50 PM MST up reply actions
That's what he said
Either tonight and if not then Monday
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:52 PM MST up reply actions
Gasol always looks like he's about to burst into tears...
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pace is creepy lookin'
/random observation
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 7:53 PM MST reply actions
He's one of those guys that might be out of a job because of HD
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:54 PM MST up reply actions
he used to work at the skybox
as a host. he was friends with the owner.
buddy of mine was a waiter there and claims he’s a bigger douche than he looks.
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
He's not Eaton, ffs.
Don’t get me wrong, he’s better than Memo/Booz, but he’s no defensive player of the year.
Nice guy
Just hate him basketball-wise.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:59 PM MST up reply actions
the lakers guy
is going on about how the calls aren’t going both ways and things are only getting called on the lakers
laker fans are easily the whiniest fanbase in the league
utterly laughable
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 7:58 PM MST up reply actions
This game is going to slow way down in the second half
Fast, fast game. Look for a ton of foul calls in the 2nd half.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:56 PM MST reply actions
Nice stat Boler:
“Memo comes in shooting 45% on 3’s.. HE’S HIT 7 of HIS LAST 14!”
Yeah, that’s 50% jack-a. What a roll..
Matthews is wide open.
Kobe is in the paint all night.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 7:57 PM MST reply actions
Kobe has been holding mid court all night.
Preserving his finger I guess.
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Any chance...
Millsap gets a call this season? He’s not a rookie anymore. He’s getting paid, shouldn’t he get a damn call!
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 7:58 PM MST via mobile reply actions
a foul on kobe away from the ball
i bet the laker announcers are outraged
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 8:04 PM MST reply actions
yeah they are perplexed
(got them on the only stream I found that is working. anyone got a stream with Boller and Boone?)
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That's a walk!!!!
How do they not call that on Artest?
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 8:05 PM MST reply actions
they're mostly byu students
which makes me doubly sick… ;)
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 8:08 PM MST up reply actions
freaking fisher
shooting 37% on the year but can’t miss tonight.
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 8:06 PM MST reply actions
They have 8 frrom the paint, Jazz have 3!
If we hit this many outside j’s in a normal game!
We would have killed all comers!
LA has 15 fouls Jazz 6 Go figure.
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kobe spent the entire halftime
getting fluids and resting
blah blah blah
he can barely fist bump
blah blah blah
Well if jackson leaves him in, then that's his problem!
Did not think LA was that shallow of a team…
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Ahhh, but was Artest resting and drinking Henn at halftime... that is the question.
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In a 14-year career...
Derek Fisher is yet to commit a foul. Just ask him.
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 8:25 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I had to stop
Lakers guy is just talking over the top of HRH. RAEG.
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Jazz should be killing the Lakers right now
Playing good D but they’re cold right now.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 8:40 PM MST reply actions
We need to calm down a bit.
Then put together a finish off plan.
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His backwards over the head shot was hilarious
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 8:43 PM MST up reply actions
How many years does Kobe have left?
9? He’s 31 right now.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 8:46 PM MST reply actions
He will be in the hospital tonight!
Gee coach, thanks a bunch! (Pucker)
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True.
I just want to know how long until he’s out of the league. Shorter the better
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 8:50 PM MST up reply actions
Is there like an offer of some kind involved here?
RRR, putting a super edge on the fillet blade.
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Simmons has some great takes about the...
Amount of minutes Kobe has played. Especially with LA’s extended playoff runs and Olympic summers.
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 8:52 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
i'd start the fourth with deron
not a great finish to the 3rd in the half court.
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 8:48 PM MST reply actions
There we go
Move the ball and get easy shots.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 8:51 PM MST reply actions
lakers started the 4th with a backcourt of
farmar and shannon brown.
phil jackson is a genius.
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 8:54 PM MST reply actions
locke spent all summer talking about how
kobe will inevitably decline after the 35,000 min mark
and then when it hasn’t happened now he’s back to talking about how kobe is the best player in the league
Harp would have had artest on the floor...
CJ took a hard elbow, no call,
Deron took him out.
Reff I hope told Artest to chill out or get out!
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Did the ref just get to 2nd base with Artest?
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 8:56 PM MST via mobile reply actions
lmfao
I was jumping around at that last play in my kitchen and smashed my thumb on a chair sending my wife downstairs to see wtf I did.
GO JAZZ!!!!
Calling the home owners association right now...
enough is enough…. :)
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D-Will...
NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASTY!
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 8:57 PM MST via mobile reply actions
How can the first three quarters go so fast
And we’re only at the 8:00 mark now?
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:00 PM MST reply actions
The players all look a bit bushed.
They might have a different feeling.
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Can't fall asleep on offense!
Need some buckets!!!!!!!
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 9:01 PM MST via mobile reply actions
WE GOT A CALL
That ref to be dropped to the D-League this week
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What was it that Donehey said about calls to support the big market teams?
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Has a ball being in-bounded ever been called a side out before?
I thought that was only in volleyball
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:05 PM MST reply actions
Ronnie B!
Not quite sure it was the shot of the year, but still pretty sick.
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 9:06 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I swear Booner says
Mormon Jeweler play of the game.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:07 PM MST reply actions
Kobe is pathetic
Remember when he played sick in the playoffs and milked it all night long.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:09 PM MST reply actions
Right.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:10 PM MST up reply actions
Finally
I was wondering why we hadn’t had any Kobe fans show up
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
Nah, I didn't bother to show up much last year
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe they all rushed out to get the Nike Kobe Flu Kit?
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Well I took the bait
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
Awww, poor Kobe
Another thing you try and rip off from Jordan and fail miserably.
(and I hope none of us ever have to sit through something like that again)
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Not enough to win, eh, you have to attack Kobe?
That’s nice.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:20 PM MST up reply actions
It's cool watching Kobe with his IV bag and oxy mask on.
Cast on his finger…….
Has the kid got H1N1?
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And he must be acting
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:11 PM MST up reply actions
He's made a career out of ripping off Jordan
This is just another example
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seriously
if you’re a real man you don’t tell anyone about your injuries/illnesses. you just play. you don’t need an excuse in case you play poorly. that is what we learned in utah for two decades.
And who did he tell about his injury? And his flu?
I suppose he held a press conference. It was reported by the media.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
Riiiight.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:14 PM MST up reply actions
It HAD to be Kobe who told them
Or is he supposed to not tell anyone, so that someone else can’t tell the media?
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:15 PM MST up reply actions
Look at him pretending to be hurt
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:11 PM MST up reply actions
Harp with the line of the night...
“That’s just a Kobe Bryant call”
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 9:12 PM MST via mobile reply actions
It can't be possible that Kobe is actually in pain
He must be faking it and milking it.
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It's the Sterns Button!
Reffs can’t help it. When David hit the button sends electrical impulse to scrotum and cheeks!
Whistle goes off.
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Oh loved that one!
Ran sick boy all over hell and back, then hit a three!
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Sorry Harp
I would trade baskets for the rest of the game.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:14 PM MST reply actions
Do you not remember Miami?
How soon they forget
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
They like to hear themselves on timed delay.
Even if they have nothing to say or offer toward the broadcast.
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That's the Fish I know
Foot on the line for the longest two ever
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:17 PM MST reply actions
Remember those defensive rebounds?
Need some now.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:18 PM MST reply actions
lol Simmons
sportsguy33 Good news/bad news for Laker fans. The bad news? Win streak is over. The good news? Kobe built a brick pizza oven tonight.
Lol
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:21 PM MST up reply actions
Ya
I was at the game. It was ridiculous. Everyone started piling out when there was still plenty of time left. How can we expect the team to play the whole game when the fans send the message that the last 5 min do not matter?
by Bobby Joness on Dec 13, 2009 12:03 AM MST up reply actions
Booze back in
gasol still getting boards
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:20 PM MST reply actions
Or some eye candy time
The Jazz need to sell some more jerseys. They got tax to pay.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:22 PM MST up reply actions
Someone call Johnny Drama...
VICTORY!!!!!!!!
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by BC7 on Dec 12, 2009 9:21 PM MST via mobile reply actions
the lakers would be irrelevant
and kobe would be bad mouthing management had the league not awarded them gasol.
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
harp, please stop fellating kobe
it’s disgusting.
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 9:22 PM MST reply actions
Sterns will have to stop by Kobe's hoospital room!!!
express his condolences, pat him on the back for bravery.
Kiss his ass cuz his reffs were not up to the task!
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It's not enough to win just win the game, eh Jazz fans?
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:24 PM MST up reply actions
And this has to do with me how?
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:26 PM MST up reply actions
It's enough.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions
It's enough for me.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
Okay, well when you generalize Jazz fan, I get to generalize Laker fan.
And I’ll take the victory over Kobe mocking, any day.
Unless you own Taco Bell
I don’t see how it’s about you… unless you are paranoid?
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It was replied to my comment.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
We just need you atm # Gils.
Out side of that, has nothing to do with YOU!
(Check the world has history), read up on it.
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I have no idea what this means
And are you asking for my debit card, the PIN, or both?
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
yeah, maybe we can even, you know, talk about basketball next time.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Really, because I thought we were interpreting Kobe Bryant's ulterior motives
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:31 PM MST up reply actions
I just scan for Kobe attacks
Because he can’t defend himself :)
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
I resent that
It was an 8 carat diamond.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
Tiger is going to need one for each finger.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:36 PM MST up reply actions
I think it's been Tiger doing the prowling and attacking
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
What no ball washer jokes?
Hole in one?
Stuck in the ruff?
Grabbed me a weggie, err wedge?
(pouts)
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He couldn't defend Matthews tonight either :)
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
Or Brewer
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
Now I'm waiting for the Laker fans to say 'oh, Kobe was sick'
To which I’ll reply ‘so you are a one-man team then…’
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Yes, they are because Kobe makes everyone better on the team
I thought the rest of the Lakers were supposed to be able to win 50 games on their own.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
kobe took 24 shots
whilst sick and having a bum finger.
thanks, kb.
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 9:29 PM MST up reply actions
And what should I say?
That the Jazz are a better team than the Lakers?
The Jazz were the better team tonight. Congratulations.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:29 PM MST up reply actions
bynum, gasol and artest
went a combined 17 of 30
by Brigadier Pudding on Dec 12, 2009 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
Why isn't he taking himself out of the game then?
He obviously didn’t have it tonight because he was sick. He should have sat it out. He was 7-24. Those are shots that could have gone to someone else.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions
That's the coach's decision, isn't it?
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
That was strange wasn't it?
Really weird, that Rashard
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
You don’t think if Kobe had said to said to Phil that he couldn’t go that he would have made him play?
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
Oh no
I think Kobe will say he can go if he has a broken leg, but it’s up to the coach to decide if he’s hurting the team or not.
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
That's what I'm saying
Kobe should have taken himself out.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
No, any player worth their salt will say they can play
It’s the coaches decision (or medical team) to say whether or not they will get playing time
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by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:36 PM MST up reply actions
Didn't you see The Big Green?
The best player on the soccer team was hurt, so he deferred the penalty kick to the smallest guy on the team, who then kicked the game winner.
It can build teammates confidence to defer game winning jobs.
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by clarkpojo on Dec 12, 2009 9:38 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Not when they're hurting the team
Which I thought Kobe was doing tonight on both ends. I would like to know if Phil tried to take him out.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:40 PM MST up reply actions
OK, Kobe is bad
For playing hurt.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:41 PM MST up reply actions
You are missing the point. He cost his team a win. That is all.
You can call it heroics, or gamesmanship, or whatever, but the same thing that makes Kobe very good, also makes him very bad at times. He thinks he can win it all by himself, even when he can’t.
Which is why I can’t wait for his last 3-4 years in the league when he just doesn’t have it physically, but he thinks he does and he shoots about 27% for the season from the field.
I hope the Laker fans still chant MVP everytime he shoots a free throw that season.
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I can't wait either
Also, the Lakers won a championship despite Kobe’s stupid selfish arrogant hero complex.
Because, as you can see, they play so well when he is ineffective, because Gasol and Bynum are the real keys to the team.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 13, 2009 7:41 PM MST up reply actions
And another point to make
Is that Kobe was at +6 when he was in the game for plus/minus stats.
I don’t put a lot of stock in +/-, but it’s something to note, perhaps even an argument against the significance of +/- stats, because Kobe had the highest +/- out of any Laker (tied with Sasha Vujacic!)
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 13, 2009 8:06 PM MST up reply actions
Agree with that!
I thought it irresponsible to have him out there.
Trying to play bigger than superstar all the while throwing junk shots, falling down, changing IV bags and diapers.
There are other players that could have learned something tonight. But the super stupid selfish stud made sure that did not happen. And Phil Jackson played the enabler to the detriment of his team!
That will cost them a lot more later in the season.
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OK, I’m up, made my point here, good game, Jazz are very well coached, DWill was a stud as usual, and I hope AK47 gets well, I need his stats on my fantasy team. Peace be with you.
"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Dec 12, 2009 9:45 PM MST up reply actions
Just a note for all
Trash talk all you want but let’s avoid getting into personal attacks.
by Basketball John on Dec 12, 2009 9:29 PM MST reply actions
best week ever
like that show on VH1 and you know what it feels so awesome any time we beat LA!!! I am so proud of them but we still have a long way to go to matching up with LA in the playoffs, yet again but so does every team I guess so that is a little bit consoling…but we cant maintain Boozer at center going against Gasol and Bynum for at least four games in the playoffs, nope and nope…
oh and for the thirty second time: Fes needs to play, whats the hold up!?
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