Preview/Game Thread - San Antonio Spurs @ Utah Jazz
by Basketball John on Dec 7, 2009 5:24 PM MST
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San Antonio Spurs at Utah Jazz, Dec 7, 2009 7:00 PM MST
Welcome to December everyone. Nothing like getting things kicked off by losing to the 2-win TWolves, right? I don't know why this month has to be in winter because with the cold, the bad weather, and the traditionally bad play of the Jazz in this month, it's enough to make you want to travel to the middle east just to jump off the Dubai Tower.
9 of the remaining 14 games in the month are on the road. If you do the math, that only leaves 5 games at home. Those 5 games are against the Magic, Spurs, Lakers, Peskies, and the Iverson-fortified 76ers. For everyone wanting a trade, this could be the month that determines if something gets done or not.
Tonight the Spurs come back to the ESA having lost twice already to the Jazz. This won't be the same team we saw earlier now that they have Manu and Parker back. After starting out the season at a very un-Spurs-like 4-6, San Antonio went on win their next 5 with 4 of those coming at home. The return of the aforementioned players are the likely reason for that turnaround.
However, they have lost their last two games to a very good teams in Denver and Boston.
The Spurs this season have been a little bit above average both offensively and defensively. As such, their record is a little bit above average at 9-8.
This is a team that everyone likes to write off even after having them as favorites in the pre-season. But they will come back and go on a typical Spurs-like stretch of 20-5 or some ridiculous number and be an elite team again. So you'll never be able to count them out of anything.
Having said that, if that happens, the Jazz will have already have played them at least 3 times including tonight. We'll head back to SA again next month, but hopefully they won't be on a tear by then.
Will the Jazz improve from the debacle in Minny? Does this team ever learn from their mistakes? Three years of losing on the road consistently tells me no.
While we haven't been invincible at home this season, it's much better to try to right the ship now then later in the month when the scheduling is brutal.
We'll see if there any urgency on the team's part tonight. Let's see what their intensity is like on D and whether or not we'll have hope for the rest of the month.
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Pssh...
next thing we know, you’ll be trying to convince us that he has knees or something…
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They are now "store bought".....
Ya know, like the dancers “stones”? :)
by RRR on Dec 7, 2009 7:03 PM MST up reply actions
Him & McDyess both.
Maybe Pops is seeing double? Each foul actually shows up as 2?
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Really?
The Spurs are making subs 1.5 minutes in?
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I'll reiterate
what I said last time around…
If a possession isn’t down to the final seconds and is still ending with a Brewer jumper, something is wrong.
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Are those working?
b/c my feed is not in English, and it kinda sucks
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Actually, from above
any possession ending in a Brewer or Deron J is bad news. For us…
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Yeah, I have no idea
but I think they mentioned on KSL before the game that Harpring was going to be there. Plus, Danielle asked (via Twitter) if Harp is the new 3rd member for the crew, so I’m assuming…
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Minor defensive glitches...
Duncan with 13, Parker with 9. That’s it for the Spurs.
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What is going on with the Blazers?!?!
First they put in a ‘toxic’ offer for Millsap, and now they are stinking it up against the mighty knicks…..
surely it’s time they embraced their Divisional brethren!
About those Knicks...
they’ve won 2 in a row, and are up now too…
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I know it's early days
but I can’t seem them sucking enough for the Jazz to snag a top 2 pick….. unless we have some 1993 Orlando Magic style luck…
Yeah, but knowing our luck
we’ll end up with like #11 or something.
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we cannot
get worse than 3 places below their final record. If the Knicks are 5th-worst, even if each of the top 3 lottery picks come from teams with better records, they’ll be no worse than 8th.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Hm...
Minny.
NJ.
Golden State?
Memphis?
Philly?
Indiana (esp. if Granger is going to miss time)…
I guess you’re right.
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no
I’m just saying, that’s how the lottery works, they only do the ping-pong balls for the top 3 picks, then the rest are decided by overall record. So no team can get a worse pick than three spots below their final record.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
I know
but if the Knicks keep this up, they’ll be mid/late lottery team, so our pick will be low (high?) as a result.
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ah yes
yeah, we really need the Knicks to start sucking more.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
I actually think they are a better team than most people give them credit for
they are miles ahead of New Jersey at the moment…. wouldn’t surprise me if there were 8 or 9 teams below them by the end of the year
Yeah... that's the problem.
We don’t want 8 or 9 teams below them.
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Duncan... 5-6
2 lay-ups, 3 jumpers (including 1 fade-away off the backboard)
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They can hit the jumpers
the guys need to forget about doubling on the perimeter and stick with their guy
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Okur & Sap each with 2 fouls already
chance we might see Koufos/Fesenko?
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Okur now w/ 3...
Fesenko still stuck on the bench.
Nice..
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By the way...
Brewer J. Obviously it missed.
They’re getting into the paint way too easily. We need Fesenko.
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Jerry's help defense
Is it just me, or is Jerry’s defensive strategy the problem? You see in the game one of our guys will go help double team on a Spur, then you’ll get someone like Bonner to nail a three pointer wide open. The guy guarding Bonner or any other three point shooter isn’t faster than a pass. Duh Jerry.
by KaBar6 on Dec 7, 2009 7:44 PM MST via mobile reply actions
so the raps are wearing thowback toronto huskies uni's from the 1940s
does that mean we can wear utah stars throwbacks? cuz those were super cool.
Nah
the Stars won a championship.
The jazz would just ruin that legacy.
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Have to ask...
anyone remember the time earlier this season when Fesenko was impressive?
Or am I dreaming? Because slow obviously doesn’t seem to remember that…
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By Bonner, you mean
“anyone with a jumper”, right?
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actually yes
but i seem to remember bonner in particular getting something like 7 3’s against us in one game last year
FWIW... Bonner vs. Jazz last year...
1) 5-12 (2-7 from downtown), 13 & 4
2) 0-2 (0-2), 2 &1
3) 0-0, 0 & 1
4) 3-7 (2-4), 10 & 4
Not as bad as you remember… not as bad as today either, but not pretty…
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lol
Understandable. I remember him doing more damage than that too.
I was probably thinking of someone else.
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Have Duncan & Parker
played at all this quarter?
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Did not define it......
Just a glimmer is all.
Dimming now
by RRR on Dec 7, 2009 7:55 PM MST up reply actions
Boozer...
13 points, and a team worst +/- of -8.
Just saying.
And now a foul on Duncan.
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Jazz have taken 2 FTs this Q (7 in total)
The Spurs have taken 6 (17 in total)
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See...
playing for the last shot of the half is really (CAPITALIZED CURSE WORD/S) stupid when you’re losing by 8. You need to score points, not milk the clock. Especially because late in the game, you’re down 3 instead of 2 or 1 (1 basket at the half), you’re in trouble because 3-pointers don’t seem to be planned for in this offense.
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Wes "Stud" Matthews
Now, are we going to come back the second half really strong and play 4 quarters, or lose the game by the 20 and give up in the 3rd quarter?
by KaBar6 on Dec 7, 2009 8:08 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Jazz had 5 TOs in the 2nd quarter (after 0 in the first).
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No MJ at the Flash tonight
did anyone really think he would come?
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Nope
he’s a chicken.
But the thing about bringing out a look-a-like… WTF?
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Having him there would probably require the entire annual budget from the Flash.
No did not think it for a milisecond…..
by RRR on Dec 7, 2009 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Slow is thinking “How many excuses can I come up with to leave Fesenko on the bench?”…
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Wait...
there was a flagrant foul?
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I love Slow's double-teaming philosophy
It doesn’t F****** work!!!
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Exactly, it ALWAYS leaves a man sitting at the 3 point line, it’s absurd.
by KaBar6 on Dec 7, 2009 8:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Slow's an idiot
that was off of Okur.
Stupid time to get a tech too.
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Glimmer of hope...
worth getting excited about?
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so far just another Glimmer.....
Nothing to write about yet.
by RRR on Dec 7, 2009 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
Duncan just missed
a J off the backboard.
I didn’t know he could miss those.
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Brewer!
Look at Koufos sitting there thinking “I can’t wait till they free me like they freed Morris Almond”
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Hey guys. I'm at work, so I can't stay long.
Just wanted to let you guys know that I am in the middle of Bill Simmons’ new book and it is really good. I suggest that each of you go to a borders or barnes and noble and buy a hot cocoa and read two chapters. “The secret” and “Russell, then Wilt” so that we can discuss the future of this franchise and what types of players we need in order to win a championship.
It is truly mindblowing stuff and worth a read.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
I was going to post something on the secret.
I’m only a little bit in though. Seems to be the Jazz to a T.
by Basketball John on Dec 7, 2009 8:37 PM MST up reply actions
It's unbelievable. I think every GM should read that chapter and then be held accountable.
Have you read the chapter comparing Russell and Wilt. Totally Millsap vs. Boozer for me, to a small degree.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
I'm putting it on hold at the library right now...
a Winter Break read to figure out if I want to buy it…
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I lied...
I’ll have to put it on hold after I find a book to take off hold. Seems like they have a 10 book/movie limit…
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what the hell!
surely this ain’t the UTAH JAZZ! This can’t be the same team that lost to the 2-17 T-Woves
I don't get it...
the Jazz are finally on a run, and slow calls TO? Where’s this when the other team is on a run?
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Manu pulls a Kobe from a couple years back...
airballs a trey
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Yeah!!
This is the funnest quarter I have watched in a looooong time.
by KaBar6 on Dec 7, 2009 8:47 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Did you just see that?
Matt Bonner just drove into the lane for 2.
Gotta love the emphasis on D.
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Um...
we get a switch with Bonner on Deron & Parker on Okur… and Deron decides to launch a jumper?
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These refs are something else
NBA’s top notch refs.
by KaBar6 on Dec 7, 2009 9:03 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Do they realize that we’re being killed by the deadly Spurs trio of Duncan, Mr. Longoria & … Matt Bonner?
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Matt Bonner again.
These guys are just driving in with ease.
Fesenko?
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Who's guarding Bonner right now, besides nobody.
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Note*
You’ll be wrong with all 5 guesses.
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Matt Bonner today...
10-13, 4-7, 27 points, 7 boards
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By the way
his previous career high was 25.
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Boozer still can't play D
Duncan has gone off, as has Bonner.
And Booze’s +/- is worst amongst our starters
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Really?
A Booze jumper?
Attack the GD hoop!
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Deron!
(Even though he made it, it was a really stupid shot)
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i have a bad feeling
i haven’t been able to get a duncan buzzer beater over malone circa 2002 out of my mind ever since it happened
So, simple now. Guard everyone! None of the double-teaming bs Sloan loves to utilize at this point to lose games.
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WTF?
You all work this hard, and Boozer misses both FT…
by KaBar6 on Dec 7, 2009 9:20 PM MST via mobile reply actions
So, so lucky...
How the hell does any team call an isolation up top for Matt Bonner?
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Broken play
They couldn’t get the ball inbounded.
by Basketball John on Dec 7, 2009 9:21 PM MST up reply actions
Just once
I would love to see us win with a 30 point blowout so that Sloan can play the youngsters…
/quits dreaming
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Looked good
got benched at the end of the game though.
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Glad to finally win one of these.
Tired of the choking. Guess they did choke a bit, but they were able to pull it out.
by Basketball John on Dec 7, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions
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