Call me crazy, but we need to mix it up for the playoffs
NOT IN FESENKO'S HOUSE!
Let's do a little simple math: Andrew Bynum is seven feet tall with 11 foot arms. Pau Gasol is seven feet tall with 9 foot arms. Mehmet Okur is seven feet tall with T-Rex arms. And everybody knows about Boozer's inability to defend power forwards, let alone Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom. It's too bad that the Jazz don't have big seven footers on the bench who can block shots.
Wait. They do have a couple of those guys on the bench? Oh, well then why don't we use them? I know Sloan isn't one to make lineup changes or especially matchup specifically against other teams, but the Jazz just need to take some chances. So here is my somewhat ridiculous proposal: Start Fesenko over either Boozer or Okur and give Koufos some minutes.
At this point, I honestly don't care if Boozer or Okur get their feelings hurt. What are we playing for at this point? It is the playoffs, and as constituted, we have about an 8% chance of winning this series. But I am taking a chance that anybody with any portion of basketball decisions in the Jazz office gets wind of this plea, not that I expect it to make any difference. But I plan on enjoying this series, because, let's be honest, we would have had to face the Lakers at some point in the playoffs if we wanted to make noise. And I honestly think that we could change the way this series is dictated in our favor by adding some length inside. I am sure that some of you who are reading this are thinking, "Clark, I agree with you. We need to see some more of Fesenko and Koufos in the lineup, but you are making a fool of yourself by thinking that either of them should start." And I understand your point of view in thinking this, but hear me out.
There are four reasons I can think of that would lead you to be opposed to this idea.
1. Okur and Boozer are our best inside players and leaders on this team and they can cause some matchup problems for the Lakers on offense.
2. Fesenko and Koufos have had little playing time, have no playoff experience and we all watched Fesenko pick up some ticky tack fouls against Bynum on Tuesday night. He plays silly.
3. What we gained on defense we would lose on offense if we started Fesenko or Koufos. What can they provide offensively?
4. Changing your lineup to match the other team only shows your lack of confidence in your team. You saw what happened to the Mavericks two years ago when they tried to go small and match up with the Warriors.
My response to number 1. First of all, I agree that Okur and Boozer are our best interior players on offense. And I also agree that benching one of them would possibly, and probably, sour their feelings towards the team. But I would suggest talking to the one you are bringing off the bench and explaining the situation to them. It wouldn't be a demotion, but just a coaching strategy. And I think Okur would be more likely to take it well. And secondly. we aren't going to beat the Lakers by outscoring them, at least not in LA. At home we may get away with it a bit, but if we are going to steal a game on the road, we are going to have to keep the lakers away from the basket, off the free throw line, and hope they only perform so so from outside. It's no secret. That is how we can win in LA. If we put Fesenko on Bynum to start the game, we will increase our interior defense two fold. And Ziggy says that increases our chances of winning to 17.6% for all you Quantum Leap fans.
Number 2. Fesenko is raw. He makes some bad plays. But after seeing him the last two nights, I can't allow anyone to say that he is lazy or isn't in the game mentally when he plays. You can see him giving full effort out there. He isn't in great shape, but guess what? He is our biggest player on the team. And he is very agile for being so big. It isn't a cliche that you can't teach height. I tried teaching it to myself my whole life. It doesn't work. Koufos and Fesenko both have a natural ability to clog up the middle and alter or block shots. I love Okur and I can stand Boozer, but they lack this ability like Harpring lacks quickness and jumping abilities. It's no knock on Harpring or our bigs, but they don't have it. And when I watched Fesenko play against the Lakers I saw a very large man, who made some mistakes, but who also clogged the lane, and literally kept people from driving to the lane. Lots of jumpers were put up when Fesenko was on the floor. Tell him not to foul and just stay in front of his man and I think he can. And if he fouls, then big deal. We aren't afraid of him fouling out.
Number 3. To be honest, our offensive "gameplan" hasn't really been working for a long time, at least not with consistency. Raise your hand if you think that our best offense has been Deron Williams penetrating and scoring or dishing for an open shot. We could still do this with Fesenko or Koufos on the floor. Set a screen for Deron and let him go. It would be a little bit more like the New Orleans offense, but it wouldn't take more than a practice to get it right. And did you see Fesenko with that hammer dunk and one other good drive where he missed the dunk? I am sure we can figure something out offensively.
Number 4. We are the underdogs and everyone is already counting us out of this series. We literally have nothing to lose. Avery Johnson was stupid to match up with the Warriors, because he had the better team. He should have forced Golden State to match his team. We have no advantages against the Lakers, so we wouldn't be giving up any by admitting we need more size and length in the interior.
I am not advocating for Fesenko and Koufos to take all of Okur's or Boozer's or Millsap's minutes. I would be happy if you even gave Fesenko 12-15 total minutes, but just started him along Boozer. But I do think Fesenko or Koufos should get all of Collins minutes.
I watched three teams play Kobe Bryant very effectively on defense last playoffs: the Nuggets, the Spurs and the Celtics. Even though the Nuggets didn't have a shot at beating the Lakers, Bryant really struggled against them. It was Denver's offense that did them in. Each team employed a similar defensive tactic. They put their best perimeter defender on Kobe. Then they put a defender with length on the inside. That inside defender always fronted his man, so that if Kobe got around them, he would immediately have a big man cutting off the baseline and trapping him. So Bryant either had to pull up for a jumper, or else make a difficult pass around the inside defender. Bowen didn't play much better defense against Kobe than Kenyon Martin, or even Ronnie Brewer did. But he had Tim Duncan working a two man defense at all times. The Jazz actually have good perimeter defenders, but if you were Kobe Bryant, or Jordan Farmar, or Lamar Odom, or even Trevor Ariza, would you be afraid of getting your shot blocked by Okur or Boozer? They know that all they have to do is get around their defender and they would have an easy bucket or get fouled. If we had a shot blocker downlow, it would change the mentality of the Laker offense. Or at least it might make them work a little harder and force them to beat us from outside. Because even if we lost this series, I would be much more satisfied if we didn't send Kobe Bryant to the line every other possession or let Gasol and Bynum shoot 70% from the field. But that might just be me.
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I agree with you on everything...
We don’t stand a chance against the Lakers if we’re going to rely on Boozer, Okur, Millsap and Collins. Their bigs are a lot bigger than our bigs.
AK47 must start NOW!
There is no other way...
I’m secretly praying that you are Tyrone Corbin and have been fooling all of us this whole time and you are planning on putting this in action this weekend.
by yougottaloveitbaby on Apr 15, 2009 5:52 PM MDT reply actions
yessir
That’s been my hope since February….Sloan and the rest of the coaches figured out we have a bangin team this year but didn’t want to go in as the favorites. Injuries got in the way, so we had to work extra hard to make the playoffs, but now we have everything figured out, specific plans to matchup against every single playoff team, and it will no longer be torture watching my Jazz play. Here’s to keeping everybody in the dark until the perfect time!
I don't think there is any way our currently high mpg playing bigs can match up defensively
with the Lakers. I really feel like the lack of developing fes (and more importantly Koufos) was a huge mistake. I’m kinda getting into it with David Locke on twitter about it, he’s all “but we would have lost some games and not made the playoffs!” . . . I don’t want to be in the playoffs unless we’re good enough to win them.
I’d rather take one off year (that co-incided with 150+ games missed to injury) that gives time to speed up the development of our young kids over a 1st round exit anyday.
Then again, I’m not trying to run the jazz like a for profit business either, staying under the cap and getting the playoff bonus is great. it just does not always win titles. that’s the point of making the playoffs is to win it.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Apr 15, 2009 6:37 PM MDT reply actions
I agree with you and Locke. I think it is always better to make the playoffs than not make the playoffs, but I think we could have played both those guys more.
You can’t tell me that playing Fes or Koufos more in a handful of games would have cost us victories, especially at home against teams we were beating handily. I think you will get your wish next season though. Unless we get another PF to replace Boozer or Millsap, Koufos should get a lot more playing time. Who knows about Fesenko.
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I dunno about Locke
He’s a company man through and though, making the playoffs means money at this point, not a chance at a title — esp. if Jer decides to continue playing flop (whoose contract is expiring, btw) over young blood that may one day make us better.
not making the playoffs this season would have been a huge step back, but an understandable and excisusable one when we lost 150+ games to injury this season. in that time jerry could have found out that kosta (and lesser extent, fes) can help this team. like when andrei and booz went out and he had to play memo, and realized that memo was a player — and at the end of the season regretted not playing him more.
this situation seems similar in some ways.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Apr 16, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions
X10000
like the lack of developing fes (and more importantly Koufos) was a huge mistake
I'll make it coach.
You'll see more Flop than Fes and Koof
And that makes me so mad I could spit at my computer screen.
First of all, I doubt Jerry has see tapes of the Celts playing Kobe so tough in the finals. He was doubtless out in a cornfield in Indiana getting his mind off of basketball. And that was ingenious D. How the heck should I know how Jerry preps for this stuff. It just seems like he’s addicted to routine.
The greatest gameplan I’ve ever witnessed was George Karl and Rick Majerus drawing up the triangle-and-two that befuddled AZ in the Utes’ run to the finals in 1998. DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR DESPERATE MEASURES, but I don’t think that’s Jerry’s way of doing business.
So everybody get ready for a hefty helping of Flop.
I don’t know if I can watch that, even for a minute.
I'll make it coach.
what's worse
is that after this season we can wash our hands of flop . . . yet we’re going to go to war with him? bench his standford @$$, and start kosta. the flash will be fine without him.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Apr 16, 2009 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Yep on the Flash
as for the Jazz. Play The Koof over Flop (or vice versa) won’t change the outcome of the series. Might as well go with the guy that is better, has more potential and will be around next year.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Bye-bye BOOZE
We should’ve gotten rid of Boozer while we had the chance, though we may not have gotten a ton for him. A decent trade would have been for Bosh, whose contract with Toronto is ending anyway, and a draft pick. Utah’s achilles heel has always been the big man. Since Eaton left, we have NEVER had a truly dominant inside presence. Who knows how we made it so far with ’Tag.
Mix it up is right!
Good analysis—I agree we need to mix it up. LA is healthy and ready to rock, we need to put all the bigs in the game to match up. Fesenko and Koufos represent 12 fouls — use ’em to break up the triangle!
Geez, we failed so miserably at the end of the season—just think, if we hadn’t had that 12-win run a while back, we’d be talkin’ lottery picks. It wasn’t that long ago we were looking at 4th seed!
Let’s hope it can only go UP from here!
GO JAZZ!
by Stockton to Malone on Apr 16, 2009 2:57 AM MDT reply actions
I really really like this post
Well done, clarkpojo. There has got to be somebody in the Jazz organization that is willing to think outside the box, right??
Did anybody else think that Brevin actually did decent job playing between the end of the 1st quarter and middle of the 2nd quarter against the Lakers? I mean, it was definitely overshadowed by the fact that we got destroyed in the 4th quarter, but he seemed quite solid while he was out there. Distributed the ball, played disruptive defense, and even hit a jumper. I hope this continues…
YEA
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOOW, Welll PUT! thats exactly what im thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!
with Boozer, and Okur, Gasol can shoot his lil hook shot all day over either one of them, and bynum can pretty much dunk over both of them. But with fesanko and koufas they might be young but how old do you have to be to contest a shot ?? if they were guarding them, all they have to do is put a hand in gasols hook shot, and there is a better chance stoping him, then Boozer just letting him shoot over him. I mean cmon sloan you been in the league for 20 years, OPEN YOUR EYES, the jazz WILL NOT BEAT LA playing with who we have now, im not saying we are bad but we just cant matchup with there bigs, SOMEONE SHOW THIS TO SLOAN SOMEHOW PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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If Boozer and Okur were the savvy vets they ought to be, they would have ways of frustrating the tall guys (i.e., pushing them off the blocks in the first place), but they seem to sleepwalk on D. So it might as well be the young guys sleepwalking/learning/fouling, no? I guess you don’t get any offense from them and ultimately that’s the decision. But Flop has no O either, so he should definitely sit.
I'll make it coach.
I don't know who those players are
But I agree with you on this, the way to beat LA is to bang with them in the paint. If you play as physical as possible, go under the screens and make Kobe and Vujacic beat you from outside, there is definitely hope. The Jazz have the talent on offense to score a lot of points.
Anyway is Okur healthy? I don’t know how effective an outside shooting big man can be against them. I’m not a huge fan of that type of player so I think he should change up his style or like you said, come off the bench. And definitely, Boozer needs to step up and earn the really huge deal that he wants.
I don't think the Nuggets did a good job of stopping Kobe
considering he put up like 30s and 40s in terms of pts in those games
He had one fantastic game, two okay games and one really bad game. So I think that is playing Kobe well.
In game one he scored 32 points, but shot 9-26 from the field and had 1 assist.
In game 3 he scored 22 points on 20 shots. Also not a good game.
And in game 4 he had 31 points on 50% shooting, but he was 1-8 from 3 and 4-10 from fts, which tells me he was working way too hard in the game.
Kobe didn’t have a great series, but thanks for playing.
Take off your Kobe-colored glasses and come back and visit sometime.
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