Utah Jazz @ Los Angeles Lakers - Game 5 - Preview/Game Thread
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 8:14 PM MDT
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Utah Jazz at Los Angeles Lakers, Apr 27, 2009 8:30 PM MDT
I'm hoping it doesn't end like this. Like I posted a short while ago, I'm not ready for the off-season.
Last year when we went down to the Lakers in the second round, it came as kind of a shock because it was over so suddenly.
In game 6, the Jazz overcame a double-digit lead late in a the fourth only to come up short when no one would pull the trigger on a three until it was too late to get a good look. It took me a couple of minutes after that game had eneded to realize the season was done. I fully expected the Jazz to win that game and to go on to a game 7.
This year though we've had time to stew over things as we headed into this series. We've had too much time to think about the late-season collapse, the unknown off-season that awaits, and what could have been had we been able to win one more game.
What I don't want to see, if it does indeed end tonight, it a dejected team sitting on the bench for most of the fourth quarter contemplating everything that's gone wrong with the season. I want to see Deron, Boozer, Memo, Millsap, whoever it may be, in until the final buzzer because then, whatever the outcome, the game was close.
We don't need everyone thinking contracts while on the bench and seeing Kobe and company laughing it up on sideline while the scrubs are throwing down alley-oops and jacking up threes.
But if we finally get to see some Koof, maybe I'm all for it.
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At least we aren't the Hornets.
They are getting embarrassed on their home floor to go down 3-1. We lost by 14, but at least it was a game. And New Orleans will be in even more offseason uncertainty than we will be.
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I don't know
having a shooter would be nice.
It really seems like Mo Pete f***ed around with Scott’s family or something… he went from starter to 12th man quicker than most Jazz doghouse visitors.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Guys, I have some good news...
This draft is going to be laden with point guards and I think a decent backup point guard could fall to us at 20.
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There are a lot better players than Flynn, I think.
Teague, Calathes, Mills, just to name a few.
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Haven't seen much of him
The TOs in the games I saw are worrisome.
And a bit on the shorter end.
That said, I’d have no problem if he ended up on the Jazz.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
He is like 6th or 7th on my list of pgs. A little undersized, but could be a player off the bench.
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Calathes
is a 2-guard in a PG’s body.
Mills, sure. Not sure if he’s better, but yeah, he’s an option.
Tyreke Evans will be gone.
Teague will probably be gone.
Flynn will probably be gone (sadly).
Curry will be gone.
Maynor… could be there.
And on and on.
Of course, there’s still workouts and all, but yeah.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Calathes is the best passer of all those guys. And he can shoot the ball. He lacks quickness, but is smart and would learn quickly.
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See, the shooting worries me
I don’t think j-slow is a fan of shooting PGs.
Like Price. Or Arroyo before him (after the Olympics thing).
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Our best back up point guards were shooters and scorers.
Howard Eisley was the backup during our finals years.
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Yeah
and now our back-ups have been Jason Hart & Brevin Knight & Keith McLeod & the likes.
Something happened to j-slow after Stockton/Malone/Hornacek ditched him.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
No, they didn't
but I miss them, so I’m going to say they ditched.
Well, Malone did though
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Reggie Miller just totally made up a quote and attributed it to Sloan.
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Nothing important. A guy with your name was arguing with me about moving AK and I thought it was you, giving me a hard time.
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I like AK a lot, but I was saying that if we can move him to clear some cap space, we should.
But if Boozer opts out, I think we can sort of afford AK and should play him at a lot of the 4. But I was kicking around the idea of moving AK to Golden State.
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i've thought for a long time that ak would be playing crazy ball in a system like gs
but i can’t stand the thought of him in another uniform :-(
Really? As John or Basketball John?
I’ll have to go check it out.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions
And Same spelling, which I thought was more than coincidence.
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I didn't notice
I didn’t think NBA guys wore them. See them a lot in college.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions
actually i've noticed a ton of guys wearing them this season
with the jazz being the exception, until dwill in the last game
Hot Rod
sounds sick, has he been like this for long?
opposite
Javie loves to stick it to home teams
Nice upfake, Millsap. He isn't Boozer's equal offensively now, but if he learned to get to the line, he could be.
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Malone
was terrible when he came into the League, improved massively to 70-something percent
we want to compare all our pf's to malone
but we’re not going to get another malone. no one else is either.
just sayin.
he worked hard and improved, Sap could take a lesson
Hornets
Are on track for some serious EPIC GAME FAIL. They are almost down 60! I can’t help but laugh
Oh Hey y'all
Just remembered there was a game on. Do I dare watch it?
by DaniellelovesKK on Apr 27, 2009 8:59 PM MDT reply actions
Since I don't speak espanol
I am assuming that mean, Why not?
And, my answer would be: because I don’t want to end the season on a low note like this.
by DaniellelovesKK on Apr 27, 2009 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions
DVR
would be incredibly helpful, could sync internet radio and tv
A conservative start by Kobe?
I think you call this, sucking it up, cuz he is shooting tons. Not conservative.
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Loose ball foul on Ariza
Somehow I think the refs are going to let a lot go against the Jazz
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:03 PM MDT reply actions
Do you mean in our favor or against us.
Because so far, I think the flow of the game really favors us.
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New Orleans
Should be docked 2 games for that one, series should be called for the mercy rule
Boozer finally took it TO Gasol, which is encouraging.
I have to admit, I am surprised by the calm that is over me right now. I don’t expect us to lose, but I guess I am just sort of resolved with whatever. And it looks like the Jazz are sort of playing like that. It might be a good thing.
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Did the refs not hear that the rim got hit on that block?
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That is a goaltend for you who are playing along at home.
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I just wish someone would take it upon themselves to guard Sasha Vujacic.
He has been shooting without a hand in his face for 2 games now. Take some pride in guarding him.
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you should know better
Jazz get sucked down WAY too easy. Starts on the ball, someone gets beat, other guy leaves the three line to help, BINGO
I wonder who was supposed to guard Kobe. I'm guessing it's not Brevin Knight.
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Guys. I hate to break it to you, but CJ MIles is a bust. I am not saying that in the heat of a disappointing season.
He just isn’t going to pan out. More fizzling than flashes.
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Sadly
I have to agree.
Gah… screw the pessimism!
Maybe he’ll bloom next year…?
You know, DeShawn & Sasha kinda bloomed after the Jazz gave up on them
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
And that is why I don't agree that we should ask Deron to make the basketball decisions, because he was a big part of bringing CJ back.
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I don't know if they asked him then
or just told him he couldn’t.
But last year, they gave him a huge contract and all… need to keep him happy.
Sigh… I miss Shorty
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
well
dwill was quoted as saying that he wants cj back “in the worst way”
whereas with dee he said he understands that it’s a business, etc.
Are you trying
to make me blame Deron?
Because if this keeps up, I just might…
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Depends
has his ball handling improved?
That drove me nuts… that and his missed lay-ups.
If he’s improved, yes.
Otherwise, no… we’ll find someone else.
He was, like Ronnie P., someone you looked to for a spark.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Weird
CJ hasn’t come off the bench all year during the regular season, http://tinyurl.com/d76vhh. In all of the games he’s played he started. So it was either a start or a DNP-CD?
His numbers have gone down since the beginning of the year. He played well the first two month of the season.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Great Tweet from 1280-The Zone
“Why CJ Miles assigned to Kobe? Better yet why CJ even playing?! Or why did they match the OKC contract to begin with? Get him out of game!”
I liked CJ
but matching that contract was just stupid.
Especially when you know the issues you’re going to have (this off-season) money wise
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
The usual meltdown
Knight and Miles should be garbage guys. They’re pathetic. PUT IN PRICE, HARPRING, and THE KOOF!!!!!!!
Dear Sloan,
You are, in fact, an idiot.
Sloan has certainly waved the proverbial white flag.
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What the hell was that from Vujacic?
Did anyone see his little dance after he hit that three?
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:27 PM MDT reply actions
I don't know if I hate him more than Kobe. Probably yes.
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Call time out to take out CJ
his lack of defense is contagious
AK with the finish!
See, AK is a conundrum, because ever since we put him in the starting lineup, he has looked totally different. It is like we could use him again.
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That's such BS
Kobe was initiating that contact all the way and throwing the elbow. Sadly, you could see the call coming against AK from a mile away.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:30 PM MDT reply actions
And then Kobe with a stare down.
For the Laker fan that was wondering what reason people have to dislike Kobe Bryant, that is one of the 50 or so.
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it's easy to act like a badass
when you know the league has your back
BBJ,
How itchy will your ban finger be if the Lakers luckily pull this one out?
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Depends on how it ends
Has there been any posting here tonight? A Vujacic or Kobe like post would get a quick ban though.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Purple and Gold guy won't last long
If he posts his normal stuff.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
And Laker added a bunch of stupid comments today.
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Harpring needs to put a beatdown on Kobe
I wish we still had Raja Bell. Clotheslining Kobe was his finest moment.
Ah... 3 point shooters
did you see the Sixers game a bit back?
They needed points late (tie game maybe?), and they brought in Donyell Marshall with mention of how he’s the best 3-point shooter on the team (okay, that’s kinda sad) and how, if nothing else, he’s a decoy that prevents a double team.
He didn’t see the ball (Thaddeus Young with the awesome finish!), but man… we could use a decoy
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
And did any of you guys hear the T-Mac interview earlier?
Kobe supposedly told McGrady during Kobe’s rookie season that he himself, was better than Michael Jordan back then.
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usually tmac is to be ignored
this time, i will repeat his words ad nauseum to anyone that will listen
No. because of what that one classless Jazz fan did that one time.
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What was that the Jazz were doing in transition?
Cuz it certainly wasn’t defense.
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How have those been going in for Odom?
He’s gotten so many that roll around and go in it’s amazing.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:37 PM MDT reply actions
He really has had an amazing amount of lucky rolls and bounces this series.
He kills us anyway and add the luck and no wonder he is shooting about 80% in the series.
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then no foul
on the Boozer drive. I am not THAT guy that blames officials. I hope the Jazz change their strategy since they aren’t getting the calls
I think we need some more 3 point shooters. And just chuck em up.
I thought that Eddie House would be a nice pickup in the offseason, but he isn’t an unrestricted free agent like I thought. He has a player option.
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Change strategy
and shoot more jumpers?
We don’t have many jump-shooters. (Okur, Korver, Deron)
j-slow & koc seem to despise them.
Okay fine… we have shooters (CJ, AK, Brevin, Price, etc.)
They just suck.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
I'm not below blaming the officials
It’s obvious that they are going to be able to do pretty much anything they want tonight.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions
It's soooo awesome to be a Laker fan. Look at all those cool guys.
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Gotta love the vapid
useless celebrities who pretend to be laker fans (except Will Ferrell and Jack)
Nice foul on Gasol. That is how you foul Harpring!
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Can we see another Deron Williams shoulder into Gasol, Bynum, or Odom?
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:43 PM MDT reply actions
I'm sorry if you're watching this crap Larry.
One thing the Jazz desperately needed this year was a good-old fashioned locker room slap in the face from Larry. Dang, I miss those.
The Lakers can score so quickly. It sucks. If only they could defend, they would be championship material.
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See? Williams just needs to do that every time down the court.
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That's when he realized
that his team sucks.
And that he’s not much of a GM (re: CJ).
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Throwing out names
Zaza Pachulia
Ben Gordon
Brandon Bass
Gerald Green
Allen Iverson (I kid, I think)
Rasheed Wallace (I kid, I think)
Von Wafer
Travis Diener
Trevor Ariza
Chris Mihm
Keith Bogans
Rodney Carney
Maurice Ager
Robert Swift
Andre Miller
Kareem Rush
Ime Udoka
Shawn Marion
Some of the NBA FAs this off-season (no RFAs or option players included)
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Ben Gordon
I thought about Rasheed, but I don’t know now. He could be worth it.
Bass and Wafer are interesting
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I would love having Rasheed, if he played for 2 million a year or less.
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how about sign and trade
Booz + draft pick for Beasley & Haslem….?
Next year's Jazz pick?
Sure. I’m in.
Knicks pick… no.
Jazz pick this year… eh… we’ll need it. Too many holes… unless they’re expecting everyone back.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
I don't want to ruin a sweet post I am writing up currently, but...
This will be the offseason to get some discounted free agents. And I like a few of them out there. You already know how I feel about Chris Andersen, but I like Quentin Ross, Grant Hill, and Brandon Bass.
Ben Gordon would have to be a sign and trade. I repeat, Ben Gordon would be very hard to get our hands on unless we give up something good. Jazz fans love him, but he’s like a 7% chance of playing here.
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Horrible fit too
seems like he needs the ball in his hands most of the time.
And so many awkward, ugly shots…
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
I think we need a shooter, especially one that can create his own shot. So Gordon works there. But way expensive for his production.
That is why I am honestly intrigued by trading for two of Maggette, Crawford and Stephen Jackson for Andrei. We would add a 3 point shooter and someone who could carry an offense off the bench.
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That might be delicious
I don’t know if Sloan could handle all three of those guys. Maggette maybe. But Crawford and Jackson don’t seem to be Sloan players. AK as a Warrior though, that might hurt me.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions
See, if I could choose, I would take Crawford and Maggette.
Then I would start Crawford and move Ronnie B to the 3. Then I would let Maggette come off the bench, attack the rim and get to the free throw line. He does do that without fail. And he makes free throws.
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Must be easy to play for the Lakers
when you know you don’t have to be great, and Kobe will carry you
Laker fans like to throw out the "classy" line a lot
but chanting “Utah Sucks” just makes them look like a bunch of assholes
Those aren't really Laker fans in the crowd
They’ve all been priced out by the psuedo celebrities.
Bork bork bork!
Did anybody tell Sloan that the NBA adopted the 3-point line back in 1980?
LA can have a wide-open 3 anytime they like. Sloan, on the other hand, kept with the same plodding long-jumper offense even when the Jazz were down 20 in the 4th quarter.
It’s been the SAME FREAKING STORY all 5 games, Sloan. Change SOMETHING. ANYTHING.
We don't have the 3 point shooters. Korver has missed every open look, when it has counted this series.
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Good point.
1-19 in 3s when we aren’t down by 15+.
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I agree he hasn't done much outside of game 3
but even the best 3 point shooters only hit 4 of 10. When you only take 6 or 7 shots a game and 4 are threes…tough to get a rhythm
Point taken.
But the Jazz were down 15-20 points the entire 4th quarter in Game 4, and both D-Will & Korver were shooting 50% from 3. Sloan even failed to pull the starters when it became mathematically impossible to win, risking injury and only making D-Will and Co. more fatigued for this game.
I say the Jazz hold open tryouts in the 2nd half
for the to be FAs. You play good, we consider bringing you back.
You stink… adíos!
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
That was suppose to be our advantage this year
Once everyone was healthy.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
The Cowhide Globe (and the wwl, but screw them) brought it up
are we nearing the end of the j-slow era?
I mean, this has got to be eating away at him, the way this team plays.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
He certainly has changed the past couple of years
Doesn’t have the fire (visibly) that he’s had in the past.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Sure doesn't look like he cares
I’m sure he had plenty of f-bombs for the Jazz at halftime, but these days he only seems to explode when the refs make a really, really bad call.
D-Will, AK, Brewer, Harpring, and the Koof
That’s the line-up I’d like to see start the 3rd.
I never thought I'd say it
but I want to see Almond in this game. KOOF goes w/o saying
True that.
Almond would at least shoot better than Miles.
Nissalke
“this is the poorest executing Jazz team”
you know...
even if we were playing Denver, we prob still would have lost first 2
Yep
the only team we would’ve beaten in the playoffs is NO, and that’s because we own them and they’re struggling worse than we are.
Oh, and maybe the Rockets, but that’s questionable with T-Mac out.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
I blame everyone
from the 10th man (Price & Flop never play) up to KOC/j-slow/ownership
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Makes me sick how LA can stay in the paint the whole time on D
There’s no violation, they just don’t have to go out to the three point line
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:10 PM MDT reply actions
Almost ZERO rebounding effort tonight.
Sadly the only thing that was going for Utah most of this series.
Boozer rotated to guard Gasol there. But he has to front him to make it effective. Instead he just fouled.
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Boozer just threw Gasol to the hoop after Brewer made that layup.
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That shouldn't be a shooting foul. Only in the NBA.
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If the ship continues to sink
I want DWill to go ballistic on an official
I want Millsap to go off on another player
What’s it going to hurt us?
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions
The LA fans are so clever. How do they all know to chant that whenever he shoots a free throw?
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recent tweet of mine
“Laker fans: you can chant M-V-P until your botox dries up, it won’t make it so”
Yes it will, sniffle, sniffle.
LEAVE KOBE
ALONE!!!!!
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My hatred for Odom
has been rising at an exponential rate
But I only hate Odom, because we can't guard him. He is such a matchup nightmare for us. He seems like a decent guy.
I hate Kobe and Vujacic because they are a prick and a princess and unlikeable people, not because we can’t stop them.
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Odom gets that look on his face
like, “heh, too easy man, you ain’t shit”
Boler
“Hundley calling his last game tonight.” -Likely, but there’s a little time left.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:23 PM MDT reply actions
Dribble dribble dribble pass dribble 18-footer *clank*
That’s exactly what the rest of the game is going to look like, with a turnover thrown in every other play.
Hopefully Greg Miller and friends will make some significant changes in the offseason, starting by pushing Sloan into retirement.
Unless the Jazz pull this game off. :-P
The roster needs to be nuked
current fits to j-slow’s system…
Deron
Booze (when healthy and playing hard… which isn’t very often)
Korver (if he can make shots)
Okur
Maybe Brewer
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Greg Miller scares me for some reason
Something unsettling about him. Don’t know why.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe its the fact that he has all the power and he isn't a Jazz or basketball fan.
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Okur looks like he hasn't played for a few weeks.
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I wonder how much the Jazz will have their hand forced this off-season
Really, they only control Fess, Brewer, and Millsap. Everyone else can leave or opt out.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:26 PM MDT reply actions
We have Deron too. And I think Fesenko is as good as gone.
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Should have clarified
I meant the ones that can leave.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Boozer couldn't convert in the post when Derek Fisher was guarding him.
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Millsap hasn't done so hot playing for a new contract.
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The Jazz going out with less than a whimper.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
At least start a mini-brawl for my entertainment.
Not me
I’ve learned.
Not 30 at least.
He needs minutes (though we don’t have many, if any, games left).
45/night for Deron destroys him.
Especially because j-slow doesn’t believe in pulling the starters, no matter how bad the blowout.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
sure am glad
that Price hasn’t played in 3 months
/sarcasm
3 months
slight exaggeration.
But he hasn’t played 10+ minutes in a game in almost 3 months.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
no surprise
our PFs have the worst +/-
Memo only 18 min, PFs guarding the 7 footers again
But I don't understand. He is going to be the difference maker in the finals.
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Here's my offseason wishlist.
1. Boozer opt out.
2. Sign Millsap to contract for 4-6 million a year.
3. Sign Chris Andersen to 3 year/ $9 million contract.
4. Trade AK to Golden State for Jamal Crawford and Corey Maggette (not because I don’t like AK, but to free up money)
5. Sign Grant Hill for veteran’s minimum -$2 million.
6. Draft Jeff Teague or Patty Mills.
7. Re-sign Price for the league minimum, because he’s just such a good guy.
8. Exercise Fesenko’s option, just to fill the roster for cheap.
9. And Korver and Okur don’t opt out.
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If we had Chris Andersen this year and the Nuggets didn't...We would be the division champs.
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That's entirely possible, and I won't deny that he's a good player
But as I expressed on another thread, I just can’t stand the guy, no matter what uniform he’s wearing.
simply put
we need bigger and stronger players.
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 27, 2009 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I like Pachulia a lot, but he will command 4-6 million a year.
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That involves
drafting and developing.
The Jazz don’t do crap like that
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
1280TheZone twitter wins again
Price came in w/4pts incl sky dunk off miss. In 2min played better than Knight most of yr.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
I was watching
with a girl and some roommates, the girl being the main reason I wasn’t up in here. And I don’t appreciate the implications here. :)
That said, I am very glad I have another sport to throw myself into.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Sorry
Why is Ronnie P all of the sudden getting so much PT? Not that I don’t want to see him over Knight, but what’s the point?
And I hope that wasn’t the last I saw of Deron for the season
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:44 PM MDT reply actions
Spark plug?
Plus, Deron needs to rest before his legs fall off.
What is this, like 45 mpg or something?
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Yeah
But it’s the last game of the series. What’s the point in doing that now?
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions
well, it is j-slow
maybe his semblance of a brain finally turned on?
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
He is so money when the game is pretty much over.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
That works on a few levels for sure. If only he were one of the 5 best players in the league and wore purple lipstick.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
same here
any word on his replacement? is it a foregone conclusion it’s going to be locke?
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 27, 2009 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions
It's looking like Locke or the guy who calls Bees games.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Personally
not a big fan of Locke.
Klauke doesn’t get too excited (like Hot Rod does at times), but I think Locke gets too animated at times.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
That came out wrong, but you know what I mean.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
nice ovation
for Hot Rod
doesn’t excuse years of douchbaggery by the fans
Bynum just isn't that good. He has shown lots of potential.
But as we are learing with CJ, potential is such a dangerous word.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
I'm just glad we didn't have to play the Cavs in this series. We would have lost every game in Cleveland by about 30.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Good point
things could be worse: could have lost by 58 at home. Could have been swept. Could have lost 2 CLOSE games. Could have been beaten by buzzer beaters
it looks like sap has come to the realization
that this is his last chance to impress those who will be signing his paychecks next year
His agent called him during the last time out.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
I put on my Paul Millsap jersey just a couple minutes ago
Since then, relatively good things have happened, most of them courtesy of Paul Millsap. Just sayin’.
Sorry guys
Problem is, it’s autographed, and I didn’t want to have to sit upright for the entire game. I figured I could manage it for the last 8 minutes or so, though. I suck.
Lol
most people would take a game of discomfort for a win.
I kid, I kid… totally understandable.
Signed ’Sap jersey? Lucky!
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
If I had known 2.5 hours of discomfort would guarantee a win, I actually would have done it
But usually the basketball gods don’t care what jersey I’m wearing :-(
Well then
I blame you completely.
Should’ve put it on earlier
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
This possible elimination game is feeling so familiar.....
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Sorry I haven't been in here
but I came on because I have to recognize the amazing comeback the second unit is making. GO JAZZ!
Ronnie Price makes Millsap turn into the Hulk.
JAZZ IN 7 BABY
Now he takes a timeout?
They’re rolling!
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 11:02 PM MDT reply actions
Too much passing and not enough shooting. And we can't buy a call in the crunchtime.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
One thing is for sure. We should have played Ronnie Price about 30 more minutes in this series.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
I liked it. He fought for his team up until the end.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Wow. If "Utah Sucks" then what does that say about the Lakers?
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Dang it, Phil. He should not have held Sloan back.
Shows the Jazz could have won some more games if Sloan wasn’t such a d-bag. Pardon my french.
I hate saying it
But I think this should be it for Jerry. He is a little too out-dated and ornery for today’s game. But no doubt about it – he’s a fighter.
sigh
did they seriously call a foul on that dunk?
lol
wasn’t half as bad as the Jazz previous 4 attempts
spread was 12.5
someone isn’t happy about this tech
Ronnie Price is my hero.
Now if he just knees Kobe in the crotch, I’ll bow down and worship him.
gotta love those laker fans
idiots till the very end
This may have been the last game for....
COLLINS!
by Scrum on Apr 27, 2009 11:18 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
If this comment serves as a jinx that results in a new contract for Flop...
…I’m coming for you. Slash, we’ll be even for my lateness with donning the Millsap jersey ;-)
Thanks, Ronnie Price
He actually brought some heart to this team tonight. Could have used that in Games 1, 2, and 4. At least we didn’t go down without a fight.
I hope the Lakers
get eliminated in heart-breaking fashion in the WCF. There must be some justice in this world.
I hope Kobe/Gasol/Odom gets critically injured in a later series. The hate that I harbor for Kobe and the Lakers has amazing depths.
As you can see...
I have thrown sportsmanship out the window. F the Lakers and everything that they stand for. I wish nothing but the worst for their entire organization. Bastards.
by moneyman memo on Apr 27, 2009 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was immensely satisfying
…to watch the Lakers lose to a better team in the Finals last year. I can’t wait for that to happen again this year.
by moneyman memo on Apr 27, 2009 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I really hope
they don’t make it that far.
My new finals hopes… anyone but the Lakers, Celtics & Cavs.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Ronnie P.
can we at least agree that he was a better back-up than Brevin?
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
I am ecstatic with the way this series ended.
Price played hard, things got chippy, Kobe blamed the meltdown on his bench.
This will not be the last time we see this team in the playoffs.
And most importantly, LA was exposed as a team that is incapable of winning the title this year.
And I love that Price went after Fisher.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Good points
I don’t know about “ecstatic”. But silver lining? Yea, I guess.
by moneyman memo on Apr 27, 2009 11:22 PM MDT up reply actions
RIght. I just mean ecstatic since I knew we were going to lose it down 10 with a minute left.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
if only the other guys had a little ronnie p in them.
if we’re going down, we should do down with a fight. every game.
yeah
I think he may be the only one that understood what Sloan meant by “nasty”. Imagine if the whole team had played like that!
I feel partially relieved
I’ve been calling for Ronnie P. all season (yes, maybe to a fault) and he showed everyone why tonight.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
I hope Price earned a contract with a team
Price definitely showed the hunger. So did Millsap. I wonder if other fans feel this much disappointment when their teams lose to the Lakers. I doubt it.
What do you think is being said in the Jazz locker room right now? Silence? Chairs being thrown? Sloan having his Metamucil?
Stole the words out of my recap
I think he earned a new deal tonight.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Hopefully with us. I loved his nastiness and he is such a good locker room guy.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
To Utah Jazz Fans
I will not miss playing the Utah Jazz. They are relentless. We will have a much easier time with Wafer, Artest, and Brooks chucking 3’s. You have exposed Laker weaknesses that many hoped could be addressed during the regular season. It will not be an easy road to the Finals. I’ll hope to avoid you in the playoffs next year.
No. We will see you next year. We will be ready.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Thanks for the words
but truthfully, we can’t reply the same way.
We really hope the Lakers lose, and lose badly, in the next round.
Nothing against you personally, but the Lakers aren’t our favorites (not close), and most of the fans just get on our nerves.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Please as a Laker fan to another Laker fan dont come on a low class jazz fan site trying to say good game. They have shown you that they are nothing but the trash we throw away. As if we give a shit WTF first round exits think bout us.
No surprise there
Your lack of class extends even to your fellow fans.
by moneyman memo on Apr 27, 2009 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions
If Barkley wouldn't sign Boozer to a max contract, then so shouldn't the Jazz.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
he should have one of those conditions
like matt does in his contract, where his salary depends on games played
Do you jazz fans actually think that during that “run” the Lakers were playing at 100%? You guys saw what they can do when they try 100% 20-2 run, and the run they put on tonight.
P.S. I have nothing but respect for Jerry Sloan, Great Great coach, Greater man
It doesn't matter
a win would be a win, whether the Lakers played 100% or not.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
You're right
no need to play hard when you have a lead. That shows championship heart
Yeah. And I wish the Jazz would have tried their hardest at any time in this series. Blah blah blah.
And do you think that the Lakers can win a championship with the non-defense they play? I don’t think so either.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Sure they can
it’s called the refs.
I promise, I’m trying to stop blaming the refs.
But it’s near impossible in this league.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Agreed
I lose may faith in the NBA each year at about this time.
by moneyman memo on Apr 27, 2009 11:38 PM MDT up reply actions
come on now, it may have gotten chippy at the end, but.....
the series didn’t turn on the refereeing.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
No, probably not
but calling fouls when the Jazz were fouled attacking the hoop late would’ve been nice.
I’m not asking for more unbiased officiating (I hate it as it is… foul calls on one person aren’t a foul on another… aka superstar fouls, etc…), but it’d be nice if they were consistent from one end to the other.
And it’s become obvious over the past couple of years that they aren’t.
Not taking anything away from the Lakers, they played better, and the won, but I’d like to see some more consistency. All I’m asking for.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Everyone wants more consistency.
Actually we had a whole thread about this earlier today on SS and R. The problem I have with it here is that the Jazz choose to play a very physical brand of basketball. It makes it hard to have sympathy when you don’t get a few calls, even if they are correct ones.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
It's physical only in a sense
the Jazz aren’t the “though, physical” team of the past that everyone says they are.
Sure, they might reach more, and they get called for fouls.
But physicalness (not a word, I know) goes both ways… the Jazz attack the hoop consistently on the other hand (most of the time) and are often receiving hard hits (fouls if the Jazz do it) and no calls.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
I thought it was pretty telling
that Odom got that and+1 with under a minute left, it was a touch foul. Price got pretty beat up and nothing. Literally seconds apart and a wide discrepancy
That's the thing
we watch the Jazz game-in/game-out, so we know.
Everyone else just knows what the NBA tells them… and it seems like the NBA hasn’t seen a Jazz game since 1998.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
I would be plenty worried if I were you
You had Kobe and Gasol in against the Jazz second team and they cut a 22 point lead to 6.
Portland and Houston are both looking at this series and taking notes. I would be very worried.
by Basketball John on Apr 27, 2009 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Can't wait to see Sasha play dramatic defense again
by moneyman memo on Apr 27, 2009 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions
AHAHAH Lakers have shown what they can do in big games, Boston(2), Cleveland (2), We have no need for worrying, but thanks for the concern have fun on vacation guys, oh yeah i forgot you guys live in UTAH! AHAHAHAHAHA
See, now that's why no one like us Laker fans.
Nice post champ, really helping the cause here.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
should be likes
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Not just Mormon jokes, polygamist jokes
Inside the NBA is usually clever and funny, but going for the cheap and entirely false stereotype is just sad. You stay classy, TNT.
Ronnie Price -I hope the Rockets sign him!
I’m a Rox fan – Ronnie Price killed us last year, and I remember him specifically. At least his performance was a silver lining to the loss. Plus, Sloan’s possible last last game he gets kicked out of. That is awesome. I hate the Jazz, but its sort a respectful hate. Sloan is tight.
Hey guys, not here to gloat.
Good hard fought series. I may have been a bit of an ass at times, but I get fired up like everyone, especially when things turn personal. As one Laker fan said tonight, “I am glad that is over, those guys are tough”. I think the Lakers are much better equipped for the next round courtesy of smash mouth Jazz basketball.
CYa
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Dont come in a low class site like a jazz site and say good series someone tried and they completely disregarded it and trashed him, i wouldn’t have said anything if it weren’t for those comments made against that guy.
Once again someone drops the ball.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Thanks, congrats to you guys
Sorry if I was a little harsh the other day, but we appreciate the respectful words tonight.
No problem, take care of that dog!!!
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Watching the replay
If Memo had any balls he would have taken Odom’s head off on that late dunk. But he doesn’t.
The good news is Odom disappears when he plays against guys that push him around and treat him like the punk bitch he is. And then Kobe and Phil blame him when they lose. It’s quite entertaining.
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 27, 2009 11:41 PM MDT reply actions
What do you guys think of the hypothetical rockets-Lakers series?
I am a Rox fan and I say Lake show in 6. Thoughts?
Rockets are good, but the Lakers matchup well with them.
The Lakers only have trouble with young, quick, athletic teams. See Portland, Charlotte, Atlanta, etc.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Lakers beat the Rockets
4-0 during the season, only 2-2 vs Blazers. But it would kill me inside to see the Blazers do well and advance
No Mutombo = problems
You have no back-up center with length. Yao is fatigued already and the first round isn’t over. Landry and Scola are too short for Bynum/Gasol/Odom. Dorsey doesn’t play. With that said, I still think the Rockets will have a chance as long as Brooks/Lowry torch the Lakers at the PG position. Battier needs to shut down Kobe.
Rockets in 7
by moneyman memo on Apr 27, 2009 11:46 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
I already thought about this… this is real bad for us. Plus, I doubt Kobe will let his team lose this season – but if he does it will be in the Finals and not in the 2nd round. Thats Why I hate being in the same bracket as y’all.
by stuartallen83 on Apr 27, 2009 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd be pissed if that wasn't so funny.
Besides it’s Sasha that is in love with Kobe, not the other way around.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
The only reason I think the Lakers WONT win it all
is because they have Sasha on their team. Remember when he cried and punched the chairs after Ray Allen scored that key layup on him in the Finals last year. Kind of like the time Tracy cried after the Jazz beat the Rockets two seasons ago.
by stuartallen83 on Apr 27, 2009 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah I Know
But Bynum is not panning out, and we lost one game b/c Ron could’nt kepp his mouth shut, one game we just lost straight up, and the two other losses were with McGrady – we have a different team now.
That is to watch out for
(Lakers fans, that is)…
Houston w/o T-Mac >>> Houston w/ T-Mac
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Gonna be honest guys, i honestly thought it would be a tougher series than it was. Not saying anything you guys played tough but i expected more.
next year's Jazz
may look entirely different from this year’s. Should be an interesting summer
Yes
Jazz could’ve beat the Lakers ….. if they met in the WFC and the Jazz had a head full of steam. Instead, Utah is tired of the regular season after tasting playoff success, let a few easy ones get away in the RS, and paid for when Dallas went on that surge to the 6th seed…
by stuartallen83 on Apr 27, 2009 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
That mid-March Jazz
had the 12 game win streak, that was their peak. we were winning road games too
i'm sorry but i don't buy it
it’s not like we were beating good teams on the road.
we didn’t have the personnel to beat LA. as i said earlier, we need bigger and stronger players. the way you beat LA is contain their bigs – gasol and odom. we have no answer for either guy.
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 27, 2009 11:55 PM MDT up reply actions
We have the personnel
one of them is your pics over here.
They just get no time at all.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Your telling me that those two bench warmers would’ve made a difference against gasol, Bynum, And odom? Pleas ethey would have gotten you guys in the penalty sooner.
lol
Bynum gets himself into foul trouble just fine. We don’t need to do anything there
There is a difference when you’re guarding Pau with a 7’1 guy and when you’re guarding him with a 6’8 guy. Gasol still score? Sure. But he has to work harder.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Nope….Gasol is too smart, he would take these rookies to school. Off the dribble, left hand, right hand, hook, baby hook, dunk those two wouldnt know what was happening.
That happened anyways
size makes a difference.
You’d realize that if your team ran out 6’8 “big men” every night.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
more length
booz and sap are 6’9" may not have made a HUGE difference, but Gasol wouldn’t have shot as well and rebounded as well. Anything that increases your chances, you know?
Decent Series
Jazz really screwed themselves by folding at the end of the season. If they met the Lakers in the WCF with a healthy Okur, it may have been a better series. The Jazz are one of the best #8 seeds in recent memory. The Lakers ran right through them. It took Kobe’s worst shooting performance in five years for the Jazz to steal a 2 point game at home. No one in the west will take them past six. Not the Rockets, not the Nuggets, not the Blazers.
But you guys beat no notable teams on the road. Lakers won in cleveland, in boston Two hostile environments and they had the second best home record sorry but winning 12 in row against sub-par teams is no big deal.
that streak included
the LAKERS and the CELTICS
A win is a win
and if you’re not giving it your best effort, you don’t deserve to win.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Just saying the
Jazz could have taken it to 7. And why shouldn’t I expect their absolute best effort?
Because you're not a Lakers fan
Then you can say “well we didn’t quite give it all today” but when we do “watch out”. Or some such crikeyness.
I hate fans who say that crap. Lakers were the better team. They should have won in 4 or 5 games (which they did). Ah, the beauty of having fans talk to opposing fans….
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
you laker fans are pretty confident
considering how poorly your boys played in the 4th quarter. you can say utah was one of the best 8 seeds in history, but this is the same team that lost 7 of 9 to end the regular season, including home losses to minnesota and golden st, and was playing without their 3rd best player.
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 27, 2009 11:58 PM MDT reply actions
Ah the old "your team sucks, because they beat my team that really sucks" excuse.
If I had a dime for everytime I heard that one……………
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
well, it's the truth
there’s no denying that this jazz team was reeling.
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 28, 2009 12:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Who cares whether Laker fans are confident or not?
They’re going to play the games, and we’re all going to find out together in a month or so if the Lakers can win a title or not.
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 28, 2009 12:01 AM MDT up reply actions
Ah gils, nice to see you...
I’m being nicer tonight, just for you.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
may find out
as soon as next week. Just saying. not that I believe they will lose next round, but nothing’s written in stone yet.
I will say that, in my opinion, if the Lakers play against other, better opponents (better than the Jazz I mean) the same way they played in this series, I do not think they will win.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Yea, but Lakers won these games based on talent. Us Laker fans saw what they can do when they actually give it there best…..No need to worry for us
that's not what I'm saying
no one is arguing the Lakers don’t have superior talent. I am saying, their talent is a constant, it stays the same no matter who they play. If they give the same effort in other series as they gave in this one (i.e., less than their best effort, at times), there are teams, with perhaps inferior talent but superior effort, that will beat them. That is not to say the Lakers can’t step up their effort and win. That is very possible. But given the effort they showed here, the lapses in play, the letting off the gas, if that same effort and no more is given, the Lakers won’t win the title. In my opinion.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
For some reason the Lakers this season play good enough to beat whoever they are playing...
I don’t like it, but it works.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
That's Shums' point. It works...but only against the Jazz who don't play the Lakers well. It won't work against even Houston or Denver let alone the Cavs/Magic.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
So were the Lakers he kept getting fouled out. When Bynum is in and firing he is unstoppable, He is too big to stop.
He is too big to stop?
He stopped himself.
The Jazz proved… all you have to do is attack the hoop a couple of times, and Bynum is done.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
He got himself into foul trouble, and its perfectly fine because this is his first real time in the playoffs, but hell calm down and settle in.
LAKER FANS
say what you need to say to feel better about it all, but don’t expect any concessions from Jazz fans
well
more like, we’ll be nice if you will. Okay, I’ll speak only for myself. I’ll be nice if you will.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
This shums and scrum thing is giving me a headache.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Booz just said
he wants to come back and regrets the Opt Out comments
In a couple weeks
He could easily say this was “in the heat of the moment” pissed off about the loss, whatever, and opt out. He may regret these comments when he looks back…
I love that he said that
I’m still not sure if I actually want him back, though (or if he’s really telling the truth).
Both Boozer and Sloan’s press conferences featured things I’ve been wanting them to say all year. A little late, though.
I have a bit of a problem with all of this "we would have beaten you if not for the refs" stuff.
Followed by the “you guys aren’t very good, because we sucked this year anyway” stuff. You can’t have it both ways.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
not what's happening
Refs sucked at the end, but we shouldn’t have been down 20+. Lakers are the 2nd best team in the League
Man I'm glad we don't have to play them in the postseason :-)
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Uh, what? You mean that since they won 1 more game than we did this year........
in a different conference that the fact that we beat them twice is irrelevant? HUH???
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Good thing we beat the BEST team in the league twice then, huh?
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
sweet jesus
you guys can’t accept anything that even hints that the Lakers aren’t the greatest thing in basketball?
It's completely different
10 years ago, the Jazz had Stockton & Malone, who they drafted and brought up.
If the Jazz had been allowed to trade some teams assistant coach for MJ, they’d easily have been the best team ever.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
make sense and we'll agree with it.
Saying they are better because they won one more game than we did in a different conference is ridicuous. Especially since we beat them twice.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
I think they're a better team with a better star
I’m sorry I don’t have your permission
shums is right, he is nicer :-)
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
It's 1:15
my team just got eliminated and I got sucked into debating the LAKERS on a JAZZ blog. You can all go to hell, I’m going to bed
lol
I second that.
I’m off to bed. Of course, it’s only 12:17 here right now
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
You don't need my permission to be wrong, just go ahead and say it.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
so why do you think the lakers are better?
because they beat cleveland in two meaningless regular season games?
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 28, 2009 12:15 AM MDT up reply actions
Why would you put Kobe on Mo Will
that leaves Fisher on LBJ?
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Odom or Ariza
will be on LBJ, Fish would guard Delonte West.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Truthfully, I'm just hoping that's not the Finals match-up
the last thing I want to see is 2 jackasses on the same court (sorry, but Kobe’s always been one, and LBJ might’ve surpassed him this year).
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
by UtesFan89 on Apr 28, 2009 12:20 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
See, I don't want that
I want the NBA to suffer.
Maybe then they’ll be more open to realizing the officiating sucks (in general, not just this series)
Spurs/Hawks maybe?
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Problem is the Spurs
maybe Mavs/Sixers? I could live with that. Plus, Cuban would probably bring Twitter to life. :)
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
thanks Shums,
at least one Utah fan here is trying to be logical.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
don't thank me too much
you’re still the enemy and I still hate you all right now. But in public I prefer to be civil. I’ll just curse at you behind your back. :)
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
by Shums on Apr 28, 2009 12:22 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know
that I’d call the season games meaningless, exactly, to disagree with my esteemed dairy-based-dessert colleague. But nor are they ironclad evidence. SO much changes in the playoffs, especially because the games are sequential, and not separated by days and weeks and months of wins and losses, injuries, hot streaks and cold streaks, big games and bad games, early season and late season.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
So why do you think the Cavs are better?
Because they won one more game than we did????
It is pointless to debate opinions. Obviously I think the Lakers are better because I am a Laker fan and I have watched all 82 regular season games and 5 postseason games. That includes the 2 where we kicked their butts. And for the record as I said earlier, the Lakers beat the good teams and play down to the bad teams. The Cavs have consistently done poorly against the good teams, including the Lakers. Other than all of that I guess I have no reasons at all.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
at this point
I think the Cavs are better because they are playing better at this very moment. True, they played the Pistons, who I don’t think are as good as the Jazz. But they didn’t have relapses, didn’t blow (or almost blow) 20-point leads, and got it done in four instead of five.
Right now it’s just a feeling, having watched both teams play extensively this week. I think the Cavs are playing better right now. But there’s a LOT to be played until the two meet, if they do at all.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
But they didn’t have relapses, didn’t blow (or almost blow) 20-point leads, and got it done in four instead of five.
you dont give enough credit to your team. they are a good team miles better than the pistons.
In my eyes, LA has an A+ offense and a C defense overall. Sometimes they play A defense and lots of time D defense.
Cleveland has B+ offense and A defense. So Lakers are like a C+ or B- overall and Cleveland is like a B+ or A-. It will be fun to see what trumps what, offense or defense, but history says that probably defense will trump offense. Besides, at this point in their careers, Lebron has the ability to dominate a game more than Kobe. Kobe played really well against the Jazz, but he got to the free throw line about 1/3 of the time since even last year. That wasn’t a coincidence. He is one year older and wiser too, but just doesn’t have the legs he did.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Lebron has the ability to dominate a game more than Kobe
i watched the cavs lakers game and lebron really didnt dominate at all in those 2 games. when teams play lebron correctly its easy to get him out of the game – its just that most teams dont know how to force him to make sure he cant impose his will on the team. his shooting % was atrocious last year against boston in the playoffs and this season (albeit only the reg season) his shooting % has been putrid against the lakers which shows he can be locked down. kobe can too.
it’ll be interesting and fun to watch. i think its basically all up in the air who could win the finals if they do meet that is.
sounds like the same argument from last year
no possibly way can boston win. they were taken to 7 games by the hawks!
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 28, 2009 12:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah but they beat us twice in the regular season didn't they?
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
...
LBJ > Kobe. He’s just as much of a jackass though (LBJ has gotten unbearable this year)
Mo Will > Fish
Odom > Cavs other wing
Bynum/Gasol < Z/Wallace/Varejao… you get more offense, but Bynum really hasn’t shown me anything to make me think you should’ve kept him instead of trading for Kidd.
Benches are about equal.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
no less ridiculous
than saying your team is better based on two random games in the regular season, one at home, where the circumstances between games were vastly different.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
I don't have to be right, I'm not the one arguing that I KNOW which one is better.
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
It's not
we would’ve beaten you if not for the refs.
At least not in the series. The games would’ve been closer (we might’ve stolen this one), but the refs didn’t lose this series. They tried, of course (I kid…). Missed FTs. Missed lay-ups. Too many jumpers. Blame whatever you want… the Jazz screwed up in many ways.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
who mentioned the refs?
i mean, other than phil jackson after every single game.
i think it’s pretty shitty that millsap gets treated like garbage by referees every single game but that’s my only gripe.
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 28, 2009 12:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Well, we could've beaten you if there were no refs at all
And both teams could do whatever they wanted, and we realized it first and hurt you all…
But in a realistic setting, no, we still wouldn’t have won.
Yeah all teams fans can be annoying, including Laker fans, but like I have said every blog has it's a-holes.
As evidenced by this beauty from JazzD-Will over at SS&R a few minutes ago.
Well, Laker fans, you suck and always will suck, but nice series.
-I hate Sloan. I can see why Price didn’t play all season and series now.
-Millsap turns into a beast when Price is on the floor. Good riddance, Boozer.
-Odom and Ariza kicked our butts.
-Who knew the Jazz dominate with D-Will out?
-Kobe is still a d-bag. I’ll always treasure Game 3’s 5-24. (I didn’t go to Game 4’s debacle) :)
-Steve Javie is a tool. The refs (yeah I said it) took the wind out of the sails in the last couple minutes. Lakers probably would have won anyway.
-I hate Sloan. Brevin Knight is "Oooooo, sucky….very sucky!" (Elf)
-Fisher is a manipulative whiner. And he was when he played for Golden State and Utah.
-I hate Sasha Vujacic. He would be a great fit in the WNBA.
-The Bucket List is a crappy movie.
-The Jazz would have won this series with a healthy Okur, and if Sloan had a stroke before the series.) Price=good, Knight=bad, therefore Sloan=bad.
-The. Lakers. Suck.
-Go Houston/Nuggets/Crappy East team!
"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley
Yeah, that was a little much
I saw that over there, but since I’m morally opposed to joining a Lakers blog, I couldn’t comment on it. Trolling in general is not cool. Reasonable, educated, respectful discussion is acceptable on another team’s blog, but if you’re gonna say nasty things about the other team or their fans (which you certainly have the right to do), it should stay on your own team’s blog.
But the wishing Jerry Sloan had a stroke thing doesn’t belong on any blog. JazzD-Will, say he’s a bad coach, question his coaching moves (everyone here questions Knight over Price, to be sure), but don’t wish devastating bodily harm on a class act like Sloan.
Jealous
I’m only jealous because I didn’t think of doing this earlier. Wasn’t this the first post on SS&R right after the Jazz lost? Either way, some Jazz fans might be civilized but based on past experiences most of them are not. You gotta give it to them, they love thier Jazz team. But I don’t believe in this mentality of trying to be the better person crap. Do any of you Laker fans think that any of these Jazz fans wouldn’t be on the Lakers blog if the victor was the Jazz team. Please! Just look at the post by JazzD-Will and that is from a loss. Could you imagine if they would have won. Give me a break! At least I won’t hear of anymore Jazz fans yelling cancer or rape or anything like that for the rest of the year. The better team won so accept it. The malone and stockton years are over. This is a new era for a new team. At least Boozer got a gold medal in the olympics as a Jazz player. But we all know who he can thank for that. Go Lakers! For life! Good nite and see you next year. You will have plenty of time to think of other deragatory things to say next year while Fisher is at the line. Besides, it’s not like any of you are going to cover one eye and mock Fisher’s child while he is at the free throw line. Right?
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Apr 28, 2009 12:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Wow
I don’t believe in this mentality of trying to be the better person crap.
You’re a glorious human being. Here I thought being the better person was, you know, better. Thanks for setting me straight.
Do any of you Laker fans think that any of these Jazz fans wouldn’t be on the Lakers blog if the victor was the Jazz team.
I wouldn’t be, I can guarantee you that. I won’t speak for anyone else, but I know I wouldn’t be. I’d almost certainly be popping virtual champagne corks over here on SLCDunk, but I wouldn’t be invading your blog with my gloating.
The malone and stockton years are over.
We know. We do in fact know that when someone retires, that typically means their years are over (unless that someone is Michael Jordan).
But really, thanks for stopping by. If you can’t tell, everyone over here at SLCDunk is a HUGE fan of yours. Oh, and thanks for making me feel better. After all, my team’s season may have just ended, but at least I’m not you. So there’s that.
seriously
just leave him be. talk to the people that aren’t trolling.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
I know, I just couldn't resist
Plus, the people who aren’t trolling are actually saying moderately reasonable things to which I often have nothing to add. As much as I hate the trolls, they are good for a little entertainment sometimes.
I'll be honest
I’m already signed up on SS&R. Have been pretty much since the site was started. Haven’t come over to gloat… it’s not what I do.
Oh, and if you hear Jazz fans yelling cancer & rape, maybe you should stop listening to the one jackass Jazz fan in the crowd and listen to the rest of them.
And if your experience with Jazz fans is so negative, then maybe you should find other Jazz fans to hang out with. While there are those that are disappointed in Fisher and mad at the way the series ended (most of us fans), not all of us (not even most of us) stick to curse words & wishing bodily harm & all that jazz.
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
And vice versa for Lakers fans
Because you’ll find there are good fans, bad fans, and in between fans regardless of what team they root for, but because of the sheer volume of Laker and Celtics fans, there are more bad ones in raw number, but probably not percentage wise. You would think the same would hold for Knicks fans, but that’s only because they are atrocious right now. Wait till the Knicks start winning (it might be as soon as five years from now!).
by Gils_Keloids on Apr 28, 2009 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions
lol
Knicks fans. I feel bad for the ones that are actually fans. At least kinda… we need them to suck for another year (the team, that is).
As for Lakers fan… for the most part, I haven’t really had an issue with Lakers fans.
A couple here & there (on this site maybe?), but no real issues.
(Actually, that’s true for most sports fans I know… if they come across the wrong way, I tend to avoid them as much as possible)
True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
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