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Matt Harpring’s ‘Back to Fundamentals’ basketball camp brochure reads: “We will concentrate on getting every camper better regardless of his/her talents coming into the camp. Campers will be taught the “right way” to play the game of basketball.  My one desired goal is to pass on the unique knowledge I have gained from playing for coaches Ron Bell, Bobby Cremins, Chuck Daly, Doc Rivers, Randy Wittman, Larry Brown, and Jerry Sloan.”

I think that’s a pretty good summary of Harpring: ‘fundamentals,’ ‘concentrate,’ ‘regardless of talent,’ ‘right way’… Harpring is the player who most fascinated me during my brief stint as a high school coach (does that count as a high school memory?) because he is all fundamentals, smarts, toughness, effort – exactly what every coach wants in a player.  I love watching him on the baseline when he sets up his man, heads up towards the screens on either side of the key, reads his defender’s chase to either curl in for a free throw jumper, or fade out for a 17-footer from free-throw-line-extended.  (Korver gets this call a lot too.)  This play is not about being the fastest, quickest, or strongest, it’s about smarts and execution.  If executed properly, it’s an open shot (to make or miss) no matter what, and that is – and I think Sloan would agree – what is meant by “the right way to play the game of basketball.”  We see his toughness on the other end of the court when he plays defense and gets rebounds with his hips.  It’s not pretty, and the pretty-boys hate it (Carmelo, esp.), but that kind of defense is fundamental basketball too.

But he’s aging quickly.  He’s 33 now.  Surviving the NBA into your 30s is an aberration, not the rule, and those who do either have some freakish skill to keep them valuable (drop-dead 3s, for example) or they have freakish size (7’+), or they were a superstar to begin with and in their mid-30s they regress to mere “very good” status (Jordan, Malone, Stockton, Jabaar, etc.)  Harpring’s hard work and hustle made him an overachiever in his younger years, so his descent is from useful journeyman to extremely awesome rec-league baller.  By age 40, he’ll be on church ball levels.  Moreover, since Harpring’s game relies so heavily on physicality, his body has taken a toll over the years.  And this season, it showed.

Offseason ankle surgery to remove a bone spur turned to an infection and unexpected delays in rehabbing and returning to form.  Like many of the injured Jazzmen this season, he showed flashes of contract-extension-worthy performances (the Hawks game, for example, when he endured a flagrant 2 from Josh Smith and then scored 15 points).  But much of the season was spent in unfamiliar territory: little playing time (his first DNPs in seasons), missed layups, missed jumpers off that curl play I love so much, and losing races to rebounds.  His role from now on, no matter the year, no matter the team, is to be a veteran presence in the locker room giving maybe 10 minutes of game time rest to younger beasts.  He will have games where his presence is important – getting into the heads of Carmelos, and others like him.  But he needs to be grateful for every dollar he is paid to dress.  Another injury or surgery could mean the end of his playing days.  He needs to begin to think about coaching, scouting, management or….full-time fatherhood.

I once read that the reason everybody hated JJ Reddick at Duke was because he was just like all of us, a 6’2”-ish white guy who wasn’t super fast or super strong….but lived this dream-life where he got to shoot 3’s all day for Duke.  Pure jealousy was the root of the hatred.  I think Harpring has that same kind of Everyman quality about him.  He could be our brother, our pal from high school, or our neighbor.  (You would never feel that way about Karl Malone.)  But instead of jealousy, you have to like the guy.

More than once this year I got angry at a Harpring missed layup.  But you can’t begrudge his effort, dedication, locker-room presence, attitude, etc.  Harpring is our team’s ’87 Honda Civic that just doesn’t have anything left to give.  If another big repair comes due, it will be more prudent to let him go, but not without our admiration and appreciation.

 

 

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What more can you really say about the man?

I do actually think he was better this year than the last one. I still think his contract kills us, but he does play harder than anyone on this team other than Ronnie Price 10 minutes from playoff elimination.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on May 1, 2009 11:39 AM MDT reply actions  

unfortunately,

every player’s salary (except sap, and he’s going to a huge raise) kills us in one way or another.

by moni on May 1, 2009 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

great post

i for one would like to see how harp plays next season before calling his career. he said a few days ago that the infection last summer was so bad he thought that he was done for sure, and would never play again. missing training camp and the pre-season, he was playing from behind all season long. since he, for once, doesn’t have any surgeries scheduled this summer, i’d like to see what a healthy harp has to give. like all the guys that have commented already, he’s one of only/sadly a few on this team that we can count on to give it his all. and even beaten down by injuries this year, he saved our butts more than once.

by moni on May 1, 2009 5:49 PM MDT reply actions  

I read that only $2.5mil of Matt Harpring $6.5mil contract is guaranteed. Is that accurate?

Sham Sports has him down as a non-guaranteed, or partially guaranteed, contract but it doesn’t say how much is guaranteed.

If those figures are accurate, I’d like to see the Jazz cut Matt Harpring. I love his toughness, his hustle and team first play …. but he doesn’t earn his wage, and cap flexibility is valuable for the Jazz right now

by NBR on May 1, 2009 7:51 PM MDT reply actions  

I couldn't find the details

But I believe it’s a partially guaranteed contract based on games played/available. So I don’t think the Jazz could release him for only part of his contract.

He is an expiring contract now though.

by Basketball John on May 2, 2009 1:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

One other Harpring note, I thought he had to play more power forward this season than in previous seasons … mainly because of his declining quickness.

I was happy with Harpring at the three because he added good rebounding, but he’s not a good rebounder at the four, so he loses a lot of his on-court value. Defensively there are issues too. I’m not convinced it’s in the team’s best interests to keep him in the rotation next season should he stay.

by NBR on May 1, 2009 7:52 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree

I think he should be a situational player only, kind of like Collins was this year. I think he would do that. I don’t think he’s in a position to complain about a role like that. As for expense, who knows. Is his locker room presence worth a portion of his salary?

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on May 1, 2009 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree, I’d like to see the Jazz use Harpring like that next season. I don’t think he’d complain about the new role either.

I’d be happy to see the Jazz waive Harpring — assuming above figures are in the right ball park — and then try to re-sign him at a minimum contract after he clears waivers. They’ll have to give a minimum contract to somebody, and Harpring is good value at that and he clearly provides a type of toughness/spirit that the team needs. It would save the team $3mil or so and allow them to keep Harpring.

If Harpring was a free agent, I think he’d command somewhere between the minimum and $2mil on a short term contract. I think he’d rather stay here in Utah than leave (maybe even at a discount) …. so I think they’d have every opportunity to keep him after waiving him.

by NBR on May 1, 2009 11:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

and his wife has a career here in Utah

I imagine he’d like to stay put

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on May 1, 2009 11:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Harpring should go

Harpring is not a good player. He is probably my least favorite player on the Jazz. I remember reading a plus- minus of David Locke a few months ago and his score was pretty terrible. I tried to keep up with looking at that stat through the season and I wouldn’t be surprised if his was very bad once again this year. I admit that stat isn’t everything, and can be skewed, but there are other reasons:

1. He fouls way too often.

2. He gets beaten by quicker wing players, and bigger 4’s dominate him inside. (that covers everyone he could guard)

3. He shoots too frequently when he is in the game, and forces shots in the post at critical times. (his shot is ugly in my opinion but that shouldn’t count against him)

4. He has taken away minutes from AK, Brewer, Miles, Korver, and Millsap over the last 3 seasons because of his relationship with Sloan, who loves his attitude.

5. This is a personal thing, but I can’t stand when he tries to “get physical” with another teams players (usually flopping, getting called for stupid fouls that put the Jazz in the penalty, or just pulling little cheap tricks. It seems to fire the other team up and make them play better more often than not.

I guess all the things that people like about him “hustle” “toughness” are great attributes if you have some talent. I liked him when he first came here, but he is a definite liability now and I agree with the people who said he should be traded if possible. Expiring contracts are golden.

by davidthecomposer on May 1, 2009 9:55 PM MDT reply actions  

I will disagree

with your 5th point to a certain extent. Although I hate his tactics too, especially because he makes other people hate the Jazz even more… I believe they piss off the other team and make them play WORSE, more often than not. It depends on the team or the player. Harpring vs. Dirk is guaranteed to end up in our favor. Same with Harp vs. Carmelo, or Harp vs. anyone on the Hornets. These are players that don’t like getting pushed around, and don’t have the mental strength to persevere through it when Harp takes a cheap shot at them.

Against other teams, with faster players, or players that won’t get frustrated at Harpring’s antics, he is a liability, you’re right. And I agree on the personal level that, on the whole, such tactics are a “Bad Thing.” But… you know, he has his place. If deployed judiciously, he still has value.

Also, don’t forget how many times fans of other teams will come on here and compliment Matt for his game and say they wish he was on their team. You’re new here so maybe you haven’t seen, but I think other Dunkers will back me up that this has happened on multiple occasions.

Having said all that: he still makes me want to punch baby seals sometimes.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on May 1, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

i'm with shums

except for the baby seals part.

i like the way harp plays. i miss the 90s jazz. i hate that we have so few guys that will do what dwill did with the backscreening in the last game of the season.

i’m not advocating 40 mpg, but i think harp still has a place on this team and he has qualities that we need.

by moni on May 2, 2009 2:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Poor seals

and if PETA gets after you soon, it’s not my fault. :)

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by UtesFan89 on May 2, 2009 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

I take full responsibility

for my seal-related actions.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on May 2, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

On the plus-minus stat

Anyone that plays with the second team with a back-up point guard as terrible as Brevin Knight is going to have a bad +/-.

by Patrick517 on May 2, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

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