2009 NBA Draft - Open Thread
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 12:04 PM MDT
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We will always remember Larry Knight.
The last time we had the #20 pick was in 1979 and the Jazz selected
via hoopedia.nba.com
I was looking up information about him and came across Tim Buckley's article (which goes into a lot of detail and which I hadn't read yet). According to Tom Nissalke,
He was a so-called defensive specialist, which, translated, meant he couldn't score, I mean, he couldn't shoot the ball at all. It was just a bad pick.
Let's hope it's a bit better this time around.
Here's the first round draft history for the Jazz:
| YEAR | PICK | PLAYER | PPG | RPG | APG | Draft Postion | Count | |
| 2008 | 23 | Kosta Koufos | 4.7 | 2.9 | 0.4 | 1 | 0 | |
| 2007 | 25 | Morris Almond | 3.1 | 1.1 | 0.3 | 2 | 1 | |
| 2006 | 14 | Ronnie Brewer | 10.7 | 2.8 | 1.6 | 3 | 2 | |
| 2005 | 3 | Deron Williams | 16.2 | 2.9 | 8.7 | 4 | 0 | |
| 2004 | 14 | Kris Humphries | 4.2 | 3 | 0.4 | 5 | 0 | |
| 2004 | 21 | Pavel Podkolzin | 0.7 | 1.5 | 0 | 6 | 0 | |
| 2004 | 16 | Kirk Snyder | 6.3 | 2.3 | 1.1 | 7 | 2 | |
| 2003 | 19 | Aleksandar Pavlovic | 5.8 | 1.9 | 1 | 8 | 0 | |
| 2002 | 18 | Curtis Borchardt | 3.1 | 3.3 | 0.8 | 9 | 0 | |
| 2001 | 24 | Raul Lopez | 6.5 | 1.7 | 3.8 | 10 | 0 | |
| 2000 | 23 | DeShawn Stevenson | 8.6 | 2.4 | 1.9 | 11 | 1 | |
| 1999 | 24 | Andrei Kirilenko | 12.5 | 5.8 | 2.8 | 12 | 0 | |
| 1999 | 19 | Quincy Lewis | 3.6 | 1.3 | 0.6 | 13 | 2 | |
| 1999 | 28 | Scott Padgett | 4.2 | 2.7 | 0.7 | 14 | 2 | |
| 1998 | 29 | Nazr Mohammed | 6.8 | 5.4 | 0.4 | 15 | 2 | |
| 1997 | 27 | Jacque Vaughn | 4.5 | 1.3 | 2.5 | 16 | 2 | |
| 1996 | 25 | Martin Muursepp | 2.5 | 0.7 | 0.3 | 17 | 1 | |
| 1995 | 28 | Greg Ostertag | 4.6 | 5.5 | 0.6 | 18 | 2 | |
| 1993 | 18 | Luther Wright | 1.3 | 0.7 | 0 | 19 | 3 | |
| 1991 | 21 | Eric Murdock | 10.1 | 2.5 | 4.9 | 20 | 1 | |
| 1989 | 21 | Blue Edwards | 10.8 | 3.4 | 2 | 21 | 3 | |
| 1988 | 17 | Eric Leckner | 4.1 | 3.2 | 0.5 | 22 | 0 | |
| 1987 | 15 | Jose Ortiz | 2.9 | 1.1 | 0.3 | 23 | 2 | |
| 1986 | 15 | Dell Curry | 11.7 | 2.4 | 1.8 | 24 | 2 | |
| 1985 | 13 | Karl Malone | 25 | 10.1 | 3.6 | 25 | 2 | |
| 1984 | 16 | John Stockton | 13.1 | 2.7 | 10.5 | 26 | 0 | |
| 1983 | 7 | Thurl Bailey | 12.8 | 5.1 | 1.4 | 27 | 1 | |
| 1982 | 3 | Dominique Wilkins | 24.8 | 6.7 | 2.5 | 28 | 2 | |
| 1981 | 13 | Danny Schayes | 7.7 | 5 | 1.1 | 29 | 1 | |
| 1980 | 2 | Darrell Griffith | 16.2 | 3.3 | 2.1 | 30 | 0 | |
| 1980 | 19 | John Duren | 3.5 | 1.1 | 2 | |||
| 1979 | 20 | Larry Knight | N/A | N/A | N/A | |||
| 1978 | 11 | James Hardy | 5.7 | 5.3 | 1.3 | |||
| 1975 | 7 | Rich Kelley | 7.6 | 7 | 2.6 | |||
| 17.58824 | Average Pick | |||||||
| 18.5 | Median Pick |
We've mostly picked right outside the lottery. When we have got single-digit picks, we've done pretty good with them - Deron Williams, Darrell Griffith, Dominique Wilkins, and Thurl Bailey. Not bad at all.
Let the rumors and wishes fly.
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Biggest busts by team
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/06/25/biggest-nba-draft-busts-by-team/
20. Jazz: Luther Wright, 18th, 1993
BO-RING. The Jazz nailed Stockton (16th, 1984) and Malone (13th, 1985) and from then until forever, the only time they’ve needed to step up and nail a big pick, they pulled Deron Williams. You could argue Raul Lopez in 2001 was a bust, but he wasn’t found at a rest stop “banging cans and smashing in windows.” Also, little known fact: Wright gets paid $153k every year for 25 years.
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 12:35 PM MDT reply actions
This will be the closest thing we've had to a game thread for a while
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 12:35 PM MDT reply actions
Rephrase
I want some Jazz rumors!
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According to Locke's twitter
if it’s between Young & Hansbrough, the Jazz will go with Hansbrough
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Locke reported a bit ago that the Jazz are discussions for T-Mac?
1320 KFAN – David Locke: The Jazz have been very active in the trade market. I beleive the Jazz are one of the teams that Darryl Morey is talking about that are actively talking to them about McGrady. The Jazz are very limited in what they can do right because most of their talent are free agents or have opt outs.
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 2:05 PM MDT reply actions
Rumors...
Orlando gets Vinsanity
NJ gets Alston, Battie & Courtney Lee
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Oh
Orlando also gets Ryan Anderson.
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FWIW
NBAdraft.net has Young going #18, Hansbrough #13, and Jrue Holiday to the Jazz (over Ty Lawson)
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I have Hansbrough prop bet with a buddy I made a few months back...
I have 25 or lower (not gonna happen) and he has 15 or higher in two separate bets.
Yikes on that bet – I might get scooped.
Yeah
at worst, he falls to #20 it seems.
But Indy at 13, PHX at 14 (especially if they trade Amar’e too) and Detroit at 15 could all look to him
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FYI
1320 KFAN is about to lose a fan (me) for ever.
These guys on right now (Locke?) suck.
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Because they're behind in their rumors?
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep.
And everything else.
I think I should go back to 1230 or 1280 or whatever it was.
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And because
they’re all “we need Hansbrough”.
No. We don’t!
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slcdunk, twitter, radio,
you’re everywhere.
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Me?
I’m not on radio. Just listening to it.
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That's what I meant
I love seeing your comments on twitter as a running commentary of 1320.
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry. :)
I don’t listen to the radio often.
And I’m being reminded why.
Sadly, I think I miss ESPN radio… and I hate ESPN.
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Please take Hansbrough!
And if the Bobcats are going back on the promise to T-Will, he could fall to #20.
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T-Will?
Wouldn’t surprise me.
If you want, here’s his twitter.
http://twitter.com/therealtwill
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It's not bad.
He’s responded to me once, when I asked him about coming to Utah.
Said he’d be down with playing with D-Will
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Oh and re: Henderson to Knicks
that was mentioned 3 or 4 days ago
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"What Hansbrough does
is allows you to keep Boozer & Millsap, and then trade one of them at the deadline…"
Um… salary cap issues there, just maybe?
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How does that allow them to keep both
And Memo? And KK?
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions
No idea.
You’d have to ask Locke.
If Booze doesn’t opt out, I’m pretty sure we miss out on resigning ’Sap
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Unrelated
it seems Michael Jackson just passed away.
Wow…
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unbelievable
and with everything else going on right now.
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
she passed away this morning.
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Rumors from DX...
Minnesota appeared to be playing it cool in regards to Rubio early on, but has emerged as a major suitor for his services this evening, which will make things very interesting leading up to the #3 pick. OKC seems to be asking for Al Jefferson right now…will they settle on Kevin Love?
Right now it appears that Oklahoma City is leaning towards picking Rubio and keeping him as a trading chip to potentially use this summer. A few sources we spoke with mentioned that they still expect Rubio to end up in New York when it’s all said and done.
Oklahoma City is also active in trade talk with Phoenix, with their main target appearing to be Robin Lopez. They are reportedly offering Phoenix their 2010 unprotected pick back in return for Lopez, but that seems like a very high price for the Suns to pay.
Sacramento seems to be leaning towards Tyreke Evans from what we’re hearing, and may have even told him as much.
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OK Locke, it's on
you just called T-Will a knucklehead.
I hope your leg falls off.
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My Mock Top 10
1- LAC: Griffin
2- MIN (trade with Memphis for 5 & 18): Rubio
3- OKC: Thabeet
4- SAC: Evans
5- MEM (from Minnesota): Curry
6- MIN: Harden
7- GS: Hill
8- NY: DeRozan
9- TOR: Johnson
10- MIL: Flynn
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Hot damn
if the Jazz pick T-Will, Locke might seriously join Farrah Fawcett & MJ.
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Well, old as in
a couple hours ago
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i'll be there live to see it.
tickets went on sale today at 10 at the thomas & mack center in vegas.
THE KOOF WAS VERY EXCITED FOR A MOMENT.
YOU HAVE DISAPPOINTED THE KOOF.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
THE KOOF KNOWS THIS.
IT JUST GOT CARRIED AWAY. THE KOOF WOULD APOLOGIZE… BUT THE KOOF NEVER APOLOGIZES.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Locke just got back on my good side
picked Toney Douglas in his mock for the Jazz.
Maybe.
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Trade close (Sacto/Portland)
Sacramento and Portland are closing in on a deal that would send Sergio Rodriguez and the #38 pick to Sacramento for #31.
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Im glad everyone is wheeling and dealing
While we take the wait and see approach that has worked year in and year out! Geez KOC get with the program!!
"You can live for Nothing or die for Something, it's your call" - John Rambo
Locke asking
biggest need as a back-up.
Um… PG?
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Ric Bucher
Ric Bucher reporting the trade rumor Amar"e Stoudamire to GSW for Belinelli, Biedrins, Wright, and number 7 pick
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Changed my mind
I’m at home with you guys for the draftness. Turns out my virtual friends are more awesome than my real ones.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
actually
it has less to do with that and more to do with the combination of working super late, getting up “early” to watch the Brazil-South Africa match (and my Bafana Bafana came so close!), then crashing back to bed and only waking up now.
As the Twitters say, FML.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
Nice
you make us all feel good, then shoot it down.
Thanks.
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P_Dizzle
Living in Tampa, I hear lots of Magic talk on the radio… So I can probably provide a little insight.
Obviously, Vince is a huge star, and I’m sure many magic fans are doing back flips of the epcot globe right now. However, there is also lots of skepticism on how Vince and Howard will work together.
I know one popular sports talk host called the trade “Terrible”, saying that Vince has always had an inconsistant jumper, and that his style of slashing to the hoop would not mix well with Howard’s game.
Meanwhile, the Nets get Alston, Courtney Lee, and a player I can’t remember while freeing major cap room. I hear there is a certain Player that the Jay Z wants to lure to NJ in 2010.
so what about turkoglu?
does this trade mean that turk is gone and they won’t TRY to resign him. is this trade kind of a middle finger to turk?
We could have used Vince or Shaq or Crawford or Jefferson....
We have a good token in next years New York pick…..I would rather trade it and get some one proven then put my stock in some rookie.
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KFAN blog
Atlanta picking between Teague & Johnson (Hansbrough gone)
Which means one of them (I’m guessing Johnson) falls to Utah.
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I hear
That Turk is going to stay with the magic. I may be wrong but it seems thats the rumor.
Here is a question. Lets say that hell freezes, and KOC makes a deal that brings T-Mac (out of all people) to SLC.
Do you like that trade? How will Jazz fans accept T-Mac?? That is just to wierd, which is why it won’t happen.
T-Mac for AK?
I’d ask for something else with it, or I pass.
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Agreed
but the contract is nice (over after a season).
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ohhhh babyyyy youuuuuuu
you got what I neeeeeeeeeeeeeed
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i don't know if....
…i would like tmac. guy hasn’t gotten past the first round. so he doesn’t bring any deep playoff experience. has never played 80+ games. over the past 4 years has had 2 sub 50 games played. i am tired of injury plagued athletes. give me someone who produces.
so i am not entirely on the bringing tmac to utah boat.
At least
He would finally say Deron William’s name right.
Seriously, it depends on T-Mac’s health. if his knee is better, then he I think he’s worth a shot.
why did that guy say rubio likes pasta?
does he think spain and italy are the same place? ( -1000 to American public school system)
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM MDT reply actions
true...
But this is D-Will’s team, and I especially if Boozer opts out, the Jazz are going to need a true scorer. Its a pipe dream, but its fun to speculate.
Clippers on the clock
I pick Griffin.
Upset pick: Rubio
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Nah
true pick would be a high-upside guy, a la Jordan Hill
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no true
true clippers would be to draft griffen — THEN trade him for Hansborough
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions
clippers actually have a depth chart?
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Duh.
Kaman at C
Camby at PF
DeAndre at SF
Z-Bo at SG
Griffin will be the PG
Who needs guard?
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when anyone talks z-bo
I can only think of that play on youtube with him turning the ball over twice and shooting an airball.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions
awkward
super zoom in on that guy in clipps tshirt rubbing himself
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions
is blake's dad
going to have to choke a b***** ?
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Should we go for Kaman?
With the Clippers now having a logjam in the front court they can afford to deal Kaman or Camby…..I think we should go for Kaman…..good rebounder and shot blocker that we need.
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funny thing is...
IF the Jazz were picking #1, I wouldn’t put it past Sloan to get Hansbrough. I can see him slamming his draft chart on the ground.
according to locke
the nuggets actually improved on defense post-camby and the clips d got worse with camby
it's hard to understand
but d went up with camby in LA because camby didn’t play defense on screen/rolls and never came out to defend shooters.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Grizz on the clock
they should trade it here.
To Minny, I guess, for 5 & 18
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wow, losing my nba fan cred
who is that d. arthur guy on the grizz?
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't remember Arthur?
So much outrage last year when we passed on him.
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did he do anything good last year?
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions
He was amazing to start the season
surprised everyone with his rebounding, then kinda disappeared
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love all the highlights of
d.blair killing him inside
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:48 PM MDT up reply actions
DX
Rubio’s camp doesn’t think they are going 3, and Harden’s camp has no idea either. Sam Presti does an amazing job at keeping everyone in the dark.
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I will now type a sentence that I have never typed before and never will again.
I miss Stephen A. Smith.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
No. No I am not.
But, no Stephen A. means No Stephen A. Smith Heckling Society Of Gentlemen.
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aw
nobody took my “5 dollar foot-looooooooooong” bait.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
kosta is waiting for 5 dollar gyros
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions
No
foot-looooooooooooong = kill me now
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OKC
I’m thinking Harden
Rubio is the ‘upset pick’
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at this stage we are just going to say Rubio until he's picked
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions
damn, you know your stuff!
rubio is all like “damn” . . . he’s making his list of teams he’s goign to kill already
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions
hasheem's suit
banrupted the east african nation’s GNP
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 PM MDT reply actions
Kings
will they still take Evans? Even with the issues with him being the driver when his cousin killed someone?
Or do they take Rubio?
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they're not saying booo. but boooo-urns
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 6:04 PM MDT reply actions
a "Gretsky-like" feel?
what the hell does that mean?
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Curry
he’s not a good fit with Rubio (not much of a 2-guard… 2 short), but there really isn’t a better option for them.
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A trade?
They just took Rubio, don’t need him
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Who gets traded?
Flynn or Rubio?
Rubio could net them more, but could also be more valuable for them.
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Locke says it's Rubio
getting dealt.
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So how good will Rubio really be
The comparisons with Pistol Pete (“La Pistola”) seem a bit contrived
Ah, okay
that makes me feel better.
That said, if you have the internet connection, the draft is on justin
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today for the first time ever
i got a message on justin saying that all the slots for my country are filled and to sign up for premium if i want to watch stuff
at times like this living outside the us sucks.
I hope the Jazz do something, anything
that isn’t just taking #20 and looking ahead to the 2nd round.
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Raptors up
Holiday, DeRozan or Johnson here
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dude
you are en fuego. Been doing a bit of homework, eh?
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Twitter rumoration:
— Suns’ war room apparently cheered when Curry went to Warriors. Part of an Amare package?
— Little chance that Twolves are keeping both Rubio and Flynn.
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detroit radio confirms
rubio to NY. what did i miss?
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 6:28 PM MDT reply actions
I hope the Bucks take T-WIll
that way, Hansbrough goes to NJ and we can get someone with a bit more upside
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Holiday falling
could he fall to 20?
And would the Jazz want him?
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Rubio... ?
SLAMonlineRumor (via @langwhitaker) Rubio to Knicks for Jordan Hill and Nate Robinson
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good trade for us
ny needs to lose as many vets as possible.
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Should I start writing the post now?
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions
No.
Indy could take him.
Or the Suns.
Or the Pistons.
Or the Bulls.
Or the Wolves.
Or the Hawks.
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I think it's a combo of the 2
I didn’t think T-Will would fall to us, but I really don’t want Hansbrough to fall.
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If Harp goes because of Hans-Bro, I could take it.
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions
like in the movie "twins"
when arnold meets that really ripped old man
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Locke points out, three good PGs left:
The top three points left are Holliday, Teague and Lawson. If either Indiana at 13,
76ers at 17 or Hawks at 19 don’t take a PG, we’re left with one of the above.
Locke has a wonderful grasp on the obvious, but I found it insightful
Yahoo's Woj on Twitter:
“The Indiana Pacers are determined to draft Pittsburgh forward Sam Young with the 13th pick, a league source told Yahoo! Sports.”
NOOOO
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
What???
Total reach!
You guys want Young?
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I've just basically given up on this draft . . .
let’s draft some crazy euros and get it over with it!
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT reply actions
Miami Heat are "trying like hell" to get into the first round and score a deal to take the Minnesota Timberwolves pick at 18.
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And if you miss the Clips
something is wrong.
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Kinda Surprised
that Ty Lawson is still on the board. I feel like if he falls to #20, the Jazz have to go ahead and snag him…
You may now
stop writing your Hansbrough post
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Maynor, Lawson, Teague, Holiday
Only Atlanta & Philly need PGs
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I like Teague
I forgot that Teague is still there. I’d be happy with Teague or Lawson
which is worse?
danielle losing kk or sloan losing hanbrough?
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 6:54 PM MDT reply actions
Sure he can
The Pacers will need a coach soon.
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Just realized via a tweet
Josh McRoberts is still on the Pacers. So is Hansbrough. THIS CANNOT END WELL.
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b.jennings pissing off the ncaa right about now
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 6:58 PM MDT reply actions
didn't you see him when he was congratulating the Lakers?
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sorry, for me the nba season ends when the jazz lost their last game
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions
I meant at the start of the draft.
like, an hour ago.
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dude, if you put this much work and effort into the draft -- you BETTER ace medschool
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Thank you.
More faith than I have
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Daye, the next Prince?
Prince trade this summer?
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Clark
Wonder what this means…if anything… for Nash.
Vitale on Hansbrough
“he will win” (and predicted Curry = ROY)
um… with the Pacers?
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We better not be like
“oh look, Mullens fell” and take him.
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we'll end up taking whomever falls
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions
steve kerr looks like he just broke up with his wife
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 7:10 PM MDT reply actions
by the way
you are bringing teh funnie tonight. nice work.
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Locke thinks we might take Mullens
he better be wrong. We already have 3
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Surprised
Will both of them be available? Who would you rather have?
Teague has more upside
Lawson can probably do more right now
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Could Minnesota possibly draft another PG?
First time in history one team drafts 3 PGs in first round?
that's exactly what Hollinger just said on Twitter
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League sources believe that Minnesota may be trading the 18th pick to Denver
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Too bad
I liked Lawson, so now its either Teague or Young
Now hoping for
Teague or Maynor or Blair
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To Denver
for a future 1st rounder
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Anything the Jazz could do here to completely blow your mind?
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 7:24 PM MDT reply actions
Also rumors
we could reach for Taj Gibson
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Thanks ESPN
We’re going to miss the Jazz pick. Frick.
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 7:24 PM MDT reply actions
Dude
I bet you they do the Jazz pick during the commercial. Frak.
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KOC said
his wife wanted him to do it…
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We're back
Thank goodness. They were going to get a sternly worded letter.
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 7:27 PM MDT reply actions
Don't Know him
Oh well. Welcome to the D League, Maynor.
Maynor!
Cool. Although I was warming up to Sam Young.
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Maynor
“true PG”
Good at getting to the hoop.
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Hey
You can put that down for the whole Jazz team
guess this interview went really well?
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705312779/Jazz-a-little-hush-hush-on-Maynor.html
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Collison. That’s hilarious. Didn’t work out for the Jazz because they have Deron. And now he’s behind CP3.
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About the Maynor pick...
I was kinda expecting the jazz to pick up a big man since we are all expecting boozer to opt out. Do the Jazz already know that boozer is staying, thus taking the PG with the pick.
I don't think it has an impact
but I don’t think he’ll opt out.
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manyor?
what a waste of a pick what the hell is wrong with the GM? why didnt they take blair cause there going to loose boozer and millsap cause there cheap skates…
Booze isn't opting out
and they’ll match on ’Sap
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still the last thing they needed was a nobody point guard to play behind dwill and price
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Not a nobody
and no idea if Price will be back.
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ive never heard of him or his divison 2 school
by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:44 PM MDT up reply actions
VCU
They shocked Duke in the MM 2 seasons back
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Well....
Maybe they are not losing boozer. We already know that the Pistons have pretty much lost interest.
Could we have picked Maynor for some other team to trade to?
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How does he shoot the 3?
Maybe they are letting Korver walk. (Sorry Danielle)
What Locke says
if the Jazz thought Price was a solid back-up PG, we don’t take Maynor
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I think they view him more
as an undersized 2-guard
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Maynor looks to be a solid backup to DWill and an occasional SG with DWill....
Check out this amazing Tribute Video for Eric Maynor….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDuf1vuhM5Q
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Sorry UtesFan
Your link already had the tribute video…
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No worries
I wouldn’t have seen it at the link.
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hes going to tear it up in the d league for 3 years and then he will be gone
by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Nah
He’s our back-up. He’ll see action
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We need a backup PG...
Why would we send him to the Dleague
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the same reason kofus and fezinko have never really played.. jerry dont like to coach the kids
by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions
he got lucky that boozer and kiralinko are always hurt
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Playing hard 100% of the time
Will get you noticed by Sloan
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Yeah
but this guy is a 4-year college pro. Not like the others, who are 1-year college or young/undeveloped
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We have had Memo at Center....
Not really much playing time there….and when there was Collins got it.
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so where is the playing time behind dwill and price? if hes a 2 guard we already got brewer and maybe krover.. or harpring
by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Who would you have preferred?
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blair was an all american… i was hoping for him but i guess boozer isnt going anywhere so i guess
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Blair's falling for a reason
his knees don’t exist.
Harpring is “no knees”
Blair is “NO KNEES”
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We could've gone big
but with Booze not opting out (most likely), no way he’d get time.
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Price
is a free agent. No money to resign him.
And he’s not a true PG… so it doesn’t fit in j-slow’s system
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Trade
Dallas sends Mullens to OKC
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Quick summary: Crafty, clutch true point with excellent quickness and a well-rounded offensive game, although he committed too many turnovers in college. The biggest knock on him is high slight build (6-2, 175).
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Another scouting report
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He is very confident and has the heart of a winner. He is not afraid to take over a game at the end.
The problem is his lack of speed and quickness. He does not have the athleticism of his younger competition. He does compensate for it with his height, length and dribbling skills. He operates at several speeds, has a nice cross-over and hesitation dribble. He moves in unpredictable bursts. He has a decent first step, good enough that a defender must foul him to get to the ball. However, he has shown that he can be a turnover machine which is very scary considering the competition in the NBA.
He can score. His free-throw shooting attests to his ability to shoot. He tends to go for the high difficulty shot, but he makes them, especially the floaters while he is flying towards the basket. He seems to have a bit of a mid-range game.
I did not notice an ability to get horizontal separation on his shot. He seems more likely to just shoot over or around you. I am concerned about that tre which looks like a throw from behind the back. But it goes in at a 36% clip which is not bad considering the other weapons he brings to the table.
This kid is different. He is not a standout in terms of the athleticism he has, but he has a nice package of weaponry. I really like his ability and potential for controlling the end of games. I also like his ability to play man-to-man defense and his willingness to put pressure on his man.
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USC's Taj Gibson?
sorry I missed that pick on ESPN
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by trojanangelfan on Jun 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions
i cant believe he went that high
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by trojanangelfan on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions
There were rumors
that the Jazz were thinking of him at 20…
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I am glad i dont need to watch him again
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by trojanangelfan on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions
is there another trojan/jazz fan on here?
i thought i was the only one who existed
by bigdog'sshades on Jun 25, 2009 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Dont tell him that....
He would end up the first PF in the NBA with no legs….
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Would Chris Johnson of LSU be a possibility in round 2...
Good shot blocker…very skinny like Austin Daye.
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Maybe
I know they like Taylor Griffin… maybe he’ll be the big they take this year?
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But he is not big
I believe he would be a SF.
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if any of the five on the screen right there
are still on the board for us, I would be ecstatic. Too bad it won’t happen.
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Maynor Quote
I just want to end up in the right situation," Maynor said. "Whether it’s No. 10 or No. 19, I don’t want to sit behind a bunch of people. I want to go somewhere where I can play and contribute."
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM MDT reply actions
via Locke
we have promised Jon Brockman in the 2nd round. (Don’t see him falling that far though)
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3-year guarantee for him
does that describe what the Jazz would do?
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Jon Brockman
6’7 255lbs
Junior Year 18pts 11reb
Senior Year 14pts 11reb
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That would be nice
He is a true banger….small PF with a Paul Millsap game
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3 year guarantee though?
Seems excessive
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Small fits.
6’7.
http://draftday.nbadraft.net/players/jon-brockman
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That is not Eric Maynor
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NBAdraft.net on the Jazz taking Maynor
The run of point guards continues, as Utah tabs Eric Maynor to back up Deron Williams. He doesn’t have the measurables of some of the other top-flight points, but he might be the most advanced pure point guard in this draft. He possesses tremendous leadership abilities and has that innate sense of what it takes to play the one-spot. He also made a name for himself hitting game-winning shots for Virginia Commonwealth in the NCAA Tournament. Maynor and Williams could turn into one of the league’s best point-guard tandems right away, and he gives Utah extra roster flexibility, as Williams can easily play 2-guard against most teams.
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Chad Ford
Chad Ford on Eric Maynor: “most underrated player in the draft.”
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...
Timberwolves officials are thus far resisting the advances of the Knicks and the wishes of the player’s agent and insisting that Rubio will stay in Minnesota.
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ESPN confirming
what twitter already knows
by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM MDT reply actions
More Maynor
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/eric-maynor-nba-draft-profile-165709
Scouting Report: The best "true" point guard in the draft.
Strengths: Great passer with terrific court vision. Throws creative passes and a great alley-oop passer. Great at pushing the pace. Can get into the paint and finish with layups and runners/floaters. Clutch performer – not afraid to take the big shot. Good defender. Very quick player. Experienced player. Has range on his jumper out past the three-point line. Can be an explosive scorer.
Weaknesses: Didn’t play in a major conference. Needs to add size/strength for the rigours of the NBA. Not an athletic freak like some other prospects. Will be 22-years-old before the draft so he probably doesn’t possess as much "upside" as some other prospects.
Projected 2009 Draft Range: Mid to late first round pick.
Consensus: Eric Maynor might be the safest bet for a team looking to pick up a point guard in this year’s draft. While he might not have as high a ceiling as some other guys, he definitely has a very good chance to enjoy a long career as a NBA point guard.
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A bit on Brockman, just in case
Positives: While undersized for the power forward position, Brockman plays with good basketball IQ and is a tough, physical inside player who compensates for size issues with great strength, good balance and a tenacious attitude crashing the boards (first player in school history to lead the team in rebounds four times and the third to lead the Pac-10 in that category three-straight seasons) … Lunch-pail type who plays with a relentless motor … Strong inside shooter who consistently finishes around the basket (ranks second in school history with 1,805 points and ninth with a 53.4 field-goal percentage) … Likes to use his powerful frame to intimidate other forwards in the paint, as he is quick to gain position under the boards, especially on the offensive glass, where he registered 487 of his 1,283 career rebounds and will not hesitate to use his body to execute a block or box out a bigger opponent … Dominant presence in the post (converted more than 52 percent of his offensive rebounds into points) … Shows good court vision and is comfortable doing the little things (defense) without needing to have the ball in his hands … Strong, immovable object when he gains position under the rim, showing excellent rebounding skills off both sides of the glass … Lack of size is a concern, but he is a tenacious defender who uses his frame and lateral agility well to attack the basket as a cutter, drawing contact along the way … Has shown good consistency working in the post, as he has the loose hips needed to put in the turn-around jumper … Generates a strong drive to the basket, but is also capable of delivering a smooth spot-up jumper … Showed in the Portsmouth Tournament that he is capable of connecting his shots from the 15-20-foot range and demonstrated the release point and arch on his three-point attempts to be effective from that area at the NBA level … Is not the type who will make costly fouls, even though he plays a very aggressive game (has good court vision and basketball IQ) … Does a nice job of using his hands and throwing his elbows around to clear out the crowd in the paint and attacks the glass with the attitude that every rebound is his … Needs to improve his vertical leap (poor shot blocker, with just 18 blocks in 131 games encompassing 3,760 minutes), but has the standing reach, length and upper body power to out-muscle most opponents for the ball … Plays the defensive side of the game much like Chicago Ben Wallace – punish and dominate … Especially effective with his timing on the offensive boards, getting quite a few points on put-backs … Uses his body like a brick wall when asked to hold ground and box out in the post … Loves one-on-one confrontations, knowing his strength will let him drive to the basket at will … Has developed an efficient baby hook shot and when given room, he can also deliver a fluid reverse lay-up, thanks to his hesitation moves.
Negatives: Too short to play power forward in the NBA and needs to continue to work on improving his athleticism (especially his leaping ability) as his 6’7" wingspan is just adequate for a frontcourt player … Lacks range along the perimeter and is woefully untested there, having attempted just one three-pointer in his career … His touch working in the post is still a work in progress, but he has shown steady improvement … Good inside defender, but is sluggish moving his feet to get out on the perimeter opponent … Lacks the speed you look for in a possible shift to small forward and is a few inches shorter than you’d want in a power forward without great leaping ability … Does a good job of drawing contact, but has poor shooting mechanics from the foul line (61.2 percent free-throw shooter) … Has a nice release point, but needs to follow through better in order to improve his shot accuracy from mid range.
Compares To: LUIS SCOLA, Houston — Always in a supporting role, Brockman would not have it any other way, as he is a Scola/Kurt Rambis clone who takes pride in his rebounding skills and ability to get the offensive putbacks while physically boxing out anyone that gets in his way. He is a smart player who won’t make foolish mistakes, despite playing with good aggression. Like Scola and Rambis, he will make a nice living as a defender and situational substitute at a variety of front court positions earlier in his career.
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Okay... not 'a bit'
copied more than I hoped to
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Rubio...
“Right now, Ricky is likely staying in Europe one or two years.” Ricky pulling a Vazquez?
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One difference.
TH is 2inches taller
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I would say Tyler is more athletic as well, but it's a close comparison.
Both undersized and get by with pure hustle and desire to win.
Nice traits to have...
Sloan would have both of them if he had it his way.
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Cavs take
Christian Eyenga, Congo
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 8:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Man...
Jazz fans are almost as negative as Pirates fans. And the Pirates haven’t had a winning season in 16 season.
It’s the 20th pick. Give it a shot. You’re not going to find a HoF here very often anyways
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Tell them Utes!!
No every pick can be a Julius Peppers….right
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Forget Peppers (top 5)
not every player can be Jameer Nelson (who went #20 a bit back)
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no
I think most of us regulars are fairly positive. Either that or we just slurp more of the Kool-Aid.
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Yeah, I know
but reading the ‘live blog’ at 1320KFAN
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Yeah
I think I prefer this over here. And twitter.
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I agree
those major population areas (nba.com / espn.com, etc) are full of fans who don’t know anything about basketball. smaller places like here, twitter, etc … guys know the game better. so the convo makes more sense.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions
What will happen?
I wonder what will happen in a few days..who will opt out and what will we do? hmmmmm
by UtonganKidInCali on Jun 25, 2009 8:26 PM MDT reply actions
Ford's full thing on the draft pick
I thought they might go with Sam Young here, but I have to admit that I love this pick for the Jazz. They needed a backup for Deron Williams, and Maynor is perfect for Utah as one of the most NBA-ready players in the draft. He has a high basketball IQ and great leadership qualities. The Jazz fill a need and get a guy who I think is the most underrated player in the draft.
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Good point by a guy calling in Locke
Jazz can’t get a back-up PG in free agency. No one will come in to play behind Deron.
Need to get one through the draft.
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I would rather have Heyvelt over Pendergraph
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Dang they are determined to score 200 pts in an NBA game...
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Blazers
Dante Cunningham
3 straight guys that the Jazz brought in for work-outs
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More than killer
Denver seems revitalized with Chauncey.
Portland is full of young talent, and good.
OKC & Minny are building up the young talent and will be good
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I do too...
Young athletic guys.
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by UtonganKidInCali on Jun 25, 2009 8:41 PM MDT reply actions
Rotoworld
The Jazz selected Virginia point guard Eric Maynor with the No. 20 pick of the 2009 NBA draft.
Maynor is a work in progress defensively and he isn’t particularly athletic, but he has a high basketball IQ and enough savvy to run an NBA offense. Expect Utah to work him slowly into their rotation as a backup for Deron Williams.
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All talk about basketball IQ and being NBA ready
Niiiice!!
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Pistons
DaJuan Summers, Georgetown
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Pistons draft sucks
Daye and Summers….I dont think so
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Blair is gonna outweigh their entire starting 5
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Then for sure no playoff wins
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No worries
he’ll be hurt before the playoffs, so we’ll be fine.
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Who did Blair and Young go to btw?
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Spurs are loading up for another run...
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Young guys?
They have like 2. Blair & George Hill
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Young guys broken down
everyone else (save Jefferson, maybe) is ancient.
And we still can’t beat them.
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Ah
sorry. We’ll pretend I didn’t say it
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Who knows
Blair might be good behind Duncan
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Blazers
Jon Brockmon (to the Kings?)
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No idea
some good Gs left, but we don’t need them (Meeks, Mills, Calathes, Thornton)
I think they like Taylor Griffin
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Utes
We could get Danny Green still
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Yep.
He’d be nice too. I think he had some bad workouts and all though.
I just don’t know if the Jazz don’t go big here.
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I think they'll go big . . . just a hunch.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 9:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Derrick Brown
Xavier to the Bobcats
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by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 9:04 PM MDT reply actions
Maynor was a nice get for the Jazz. Blair was a great value get for San Antonio.
Jazz will take Delaney from UAB in the second round. Or Tony Gaffney from UMass.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
And Gaffney
a 6’8 big. I hope we’d go taller if going big.
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Gaffney has long arms, a motor and can jump. He is similar to Chris Andersen.
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Patrick Beverley to Lakers
Jazz worked him out too
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You or Locke
they’ve been talking about him for a while.
Did Meeks, he fell.
Thornton, he fell.
Now Budinger
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T-Wolves
Nick Calathes. Another PG???
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Bah
and there goes Denny Green. Who now? Nivins? Heytvelt? Gaffney?
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Danny Green would have been a fantastic pickup.
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psh
now he gets to emulate the ninja instead. Deal with it, my young apprentice.
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If not
we’ll have Deron & CP3-lite
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Maynor
doesn’t sound disappointed to be here. Not pulling a Rubio…
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sorely disapointed with the euro's this year
none of them brought a hottie with them like that guy did when he was picked by golden state two years ago. (belinelli)
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
making a habit
of taking the Esau to the high-profile Jacob (Robin Lopez last year)
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Yahoo says Calathes to Dallas, Budinger to Houston
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oh, that guy, i know that guy.
good stroke.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep
can play pick-and-roll
good rebounder
nice shot (out to 23 feet)
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I'm kinda excited
I saw him in the march madness tourney, and I was like “I want him on the Jazz”
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THE KOOF IS PLEASED TO WELCOME HIS LARGE BIG TEN COUSIN TO THE JAZZ.
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Suton/The Koof
liking the range on that big-man duo
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RealGM
Suton has a very good face-up game, with range that must be respected. He is also more agile than he appears and was respectable in the post even though that probably won’t translate to the NBA.
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A starter for most of his four-year career in East Lansing, Suton saved some of his best performances for last, averaging 19.5 points and 9.5 rebounds in Michigan State’s wins over Kansas and Louisville in the regionals of the NCAA tournament to help propel his team to the Final Four. The Spartans eventually reached the title game, where Suton managed 17 points and 11 rebounds in their loss to North Carolina. The Bosnian center may be hoping to ride the buzz from his good postseason to a spot in the second round of this draft, but it’s unclear if he’ll be chosen. Suton’s size is nothing special by NBA standards, and his strength and quickness don’t match up with most of the league’s big men. His intelligent play and solid rebounding ability could be what gives him a chance professionally
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Locke & group
compare him to Kosta Koufos
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dude
the Spurs have quietly cleaned up in this draft. Bastards.
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NBAdraft.net
50. Goran Suton — That almost seemed like a foregone conclusion. Goran Suton in Utah? It makes way too much sense, doesn’t it? He’s a perfect Jerry Sloan guy and should provide solid support behind Mehmet Okur at the center spot.
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The Koof
at least a couple guys see him as a PF. So we can play the 2 of them together behind Okur/’Sap after we trade Booze
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Nope
he’ll need to be the 3 because CJ won’t play all of it, Harp is done and KK probably won’t be back
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really?
I see The Koof as more of a center than Suton. Suton doesn’t block shots, The Koof does.
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Yeah
Koof might be the center, Suton the PF
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Suton... yikes!
http://www.miamiherald.com/600/story/983851.html
Suton remembers hearing bullets and bombs as a 6-year-old, when his parents called him in from playing soccer with friends. Soon thereafter, his father decided to send the family to Serbia. Suton remembers a frantic car ride, avoiding crossfire, and a 12-hour wait for what was the final flight out on a military plane with no seats and packed with frightened, desperate passengers.
Several years later, though, threats of an attack on Serbia forced the family back to Sarajevo, where Suton’s childhood home was riddled with bullet holes, and the yard had land mines hidden beneath grass that had grown to 5 feet.
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I shall henceforth refer to our bench big men
as Fesoufton.
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An interview with him
http://draftday.nbadraft.net/players/goran-suton
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ESPN
has Lee Cummard listed as the fifth best talent still available. Um, what? I’m a BYU grad and even I don’t believe that.
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that dude is 6'9 and 200 pounds ... ? someone get him some bbq
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 9:54 PM MDT reply actions
Maynor from DX
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Eric-Maynor-1262/
STRENGTHS:
- Ability to play at different speeds
- Craftiness
- Executes offensively
- Floater
- Mid-range game
- Mix between scoring/passing
- Pick and roll play
- Transition play
- True point guard
- Ability to create w/either hand
- Change of gears/Hesitation moves
- Ability to get in passing lanes
- Basketball IQ
- Body language
- Clutch
- Confidence
- Experience
- Mental toughness
- Winning mentality
- Ability to create for others
- Court vision
- Passing skills
- 3-point range
- Ability to shoot off the dribble
WEAKNESSES:
- Out of control at times
- Shot-selection
- Turnover prone
- Ability to defend position at next level?
- Commitment to playing defense
- Defensive fundamentals
- Lateral quickness
- Ability to finish around basket
- Average athleticism
- Average wingspan
- Strength
- 3-point shooting percentages
- Inconsistent shooter
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DX on Suton
Goran Suton is easily the most unique player on this list, and it won’t be his offensive skill set that keeps him from getting drafted.
After an impressive NCAA Tournament run, Goran Suton decided to decline attending the Portsmouth Invitational, but the numbers he put up during his final year at Michigan State make him standout in our analysis. Getting a fairly small 10.3 possessions per game, Sutton’s 3.3 jump shots per game were only one-tenth of a shot less than the other eight centers on our list combined. Not only does Suton shoot the ball from the outside, he does it well –ranking first amongst all our post players at 1.05 PPP. A below average finisher (1.19 PPP) who only gets 1.7 possessions per game in the post, Suton is the type of center that can spread the floor for a small back to the basket threat while running the pick and roll (.9 PPP) and rebounding the ball well on both ends. Suton isn’t an ideal athlete—he struggles to finish around the basket as mentioned, and doesn’t get fouled on a good percentage of his shots (11.8%), but he’s a skilled, heady player
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DX on Maynor
Eric Maynor falls somewhere in between Stephen Curry and Darren Collison in terms of his numbers, as he was a very high usage point guard, but still was able to remain fairly efficient—which is a very good sign. His 21.2 possessions per game place him 3rd in that category, but his overall PPP of .99 ranks a very respectable 6th. Maynor’s best quality appears to be his short range game, he got to the rim 8 times per game and posted a PPP of 1.12 as a finisher. That’s slightly above average, but few players on this list utilize the same mix of floaters and scoops that Maynor does, and those types of shots have a much greater degree of difficulty than the average layup. Maynor didn’t fall below the average in nearly any category, usually hovering around the middle of the pack, and his isolation PPP of 1.01 stood out amongst this group. The team that drafts Maynor will be getting a player that obviously knows his limitations and can play a number of roles well, but might not stand out in any one area immediately.
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I feel sanguine about our draft picks.
They don’t really solve big issues, but even if they simply take the places of Brevin Knight and Jarron Collins, that improves our team. Not, like, a lot, but some.
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Replacing Knight & Flop
it’s improving by more than some.
Can’t wait to see them in the summer league.
It is available free online, right?
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San Antonio just goes for the best player available and it pays off.
They had the best draft as far as getting value for where they picked.
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They also made a trade for Richard Jefferson
the Jazz wouldn’t trade for a starter if all it was going to cost them was a 2nd rounder
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Don't fault the Jazz. We don't have the trade pieces teams want.
Like partially guaranteed contracts.
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Even if they did, the Jazz wouldn't
doesn’t mesh with their “continuity until death” philosophy
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It was a good draft for us. We may have one or two undrafted players on our roster also.
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it's been fun fans, i'm off to twitter for the rest of the night!!!
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Peace!
And see you on twitter. :)
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A guy like Toolson will be invited to training camp and have a chance to make the team.
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