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2009 NBA Draft - Open Thread

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We will always remember Larry Knight.

The last time we had the #20 pick was in 1979 and the Jazz selected

Larry-knight_medium

via hoopedia.nba.com

I was looking up information about him and came across Tim Buckley's article (which goes into a lot of detail and which I hadn't read yet).  According to Tom Nissalke,

He was a so-called defensive specialist, which, translated, meant he couldn't score, I mean, he couldn't shoot the ball at all. It was just a bad pick.

Let's hope it's a bit better this time around.

Here's the first round draft history for the Jazz:

 

YEAR PICK PLAYER PPG RPG APG
Draft Postion Count
2008 23 Kosta Koufos 4.7 2.9 0.4
1 0
2007 25 Morris Almond 3.1 1.1 0.3
2 1
2006 14 Ronnie Brewer 10.7 2.8 1.6
3 2
2005 3 Deron Williams 16.2 2.9 8.7
4 0
2004 14 Kris Humphries 4.2 3 0.4
5 0
2004 21 Pavel Podkolzin 0.7 1.5 0
6 0
2004 16 Kirk Snyder 6.3 2.3 1.1
7 2
2003 19 Aleksandar Pavlovic 5.8 1.9 1
8 0
2002 18 Curtis Borchardt 3.1 3.3 0.8
9 0
2001 24 Raul Lopez 6.5 1.7 3.8
10 0
2000 23 DeShawn Stevenson 8.6 2.4 1.9
11 1
1999 24 Andrei Kirilenko 12.5 5.8 2.8
12 0
1999 19 Quincy Lewis 3.6 1.3 0.6
13 2
1999 28 Scott Padgett 4.2 2.7 0.7
14 2
1998 29 Nazr Mohammed 6.8 5.4 0.4
15 2
1997 27 Jacque Vaughn 4.5 1.3 2.5
16 2
1996 25 Martin Muursepp 2.5 0.7 0.3
17 1
1995 28 Greg Ostertag 4.6 5.5 0.6
18 2
1993 18 Luther Wright 1.3 0.7 0
19 3
1991 21 Eric Murdock 10.1 2.5 4.9
20 1
1989 21 Blue Edwards 10.8 3.4 2
21 3
1988 17 Eric Leckner 4.1 3.2 0.5
22 0
1987 15 Jose Ortiz 2.9 1.1 0.3
23 2
1986 15 Dell Curry 11.7 2.4 1.8
24 2
1985 13 Karl Malone 25 10.1 3.6
25 2
1984 16 John Stockton 13.1 2.7 10.5
26 0
1983 7 Thurl Bailey 12.8 5.1 1.4
27 1
1982 3 Dominique Wilkins 24.8 6.7 2.5
28 2
1981 13 Danny Schayes 7.7 5 1.1
29 1
1980 2 Darrell Griffith 16.2 3.3 2.1
30 0
1980 19 John Duren 3.5 1.1 2


1979 20 Larry Knight N/A N/A N/A


1978 11 James Hardy 5.7 5.3 1.3


1975 7 Rich Kelley 7.6 7 2.6












17.58824 Average Pick






18.5 Median Pick





 

We've mostly picked right outside the lottery.  When we have got single-digit picks, we've done pretty good with them - Deron Williams, Darrell Griffith, Dominique Wilkins, and Thurl Bailey.  Not bad at all.

Let the rumors and wishes fly.

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20. Jazz: Luther Wright, 18th, 1993
BO-RING. The Jazz nailed Stockton (16th, 1984) and Malone (13th, 1985) and from then until forever, the only time they’ve needed to step up and nail a big pick, they pulled Deron Williams. You could argue Raul Lopez in 2001 was a bust, but he wasn’t found at a rest stop “banging cans and smashing in windows.” Also, little known fact: Wright gets paid $153k every year for 25 years.

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by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 12:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

According to Locke's twitter

if it’s between Young & Hansbrough, the Jazz will go with Hansbrough

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 1:41 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

He is white after all :)

But I don’t think either will be on the board by #20. But you never know.

by chamont on Jun 25, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Locke reported a bit ago that the Jazz are discussions for T-Mac?

1320 KFAN – David Locke: The Jazz have been very active in the trade market. I beleive the Jazz are one of the teams that Darryl Morey is talking about that are actively talking to them about McGrady. The Jazz are very limited in what they can do right because most of their talent are free agents or have opt outs.

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by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 2:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Rumors...

Orlando gets Vinsanity
NJ gets Alston, Battie & Courtney Lee

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 2:17 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh

Orlando also gets Ryan Anderson.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

NBAdraft.net has Young going #18, Hansbrough #13, and Jrue Holiday to the Jazz (over Ty Lawson)

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 2:47 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I have Hansbrough prop bet with a buddy I made a few months back...

I have 25 or lower (not gonna happen) and he has 15 or higher in two separate bets.

Yikes on that bet – I might get scooped.

by rxmike12 on Jun 25, 2009 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

at worst, he falls to #20 it seems.
But Indy at 13, PHX at 14 (especially if they trade Amar’e too) and Detroit at 15 could all look to him

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

FYI

1320 KFAN is about to lose a fan (me) for ever.

These guys on right now (Locke?) suck.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

And everything else.

I think I should go back to 1230 or 1280 or whatever it was.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And because

they’re all “we need Hansbrough”.

No. We don’t!

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me?

I’m not on radio. Just listening to it.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I meant

I love seeing your comments on twitter as a running commentary of 1320.

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by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry. :)

I don’t listen to the radio often.
And I’m being reminded why.

Sadly, I think I miss ESPN radio… and I hate ESPN.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please take Hansbrough!

And if the Bobcats are going back on the promise to T-Will, he could fall to #20.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was reading...

That that guy is kinda nutty. Like Artestish.

by rxmike12 on Jun 25, 2009 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

T-Will?

Wouldn’t surprise me.

If you want, here’s his twitter.
http://twitter.com/therealtwill

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not bad.

He’s responded to me once, when I asked him about coming to Utah.
Said he’d be down with playing with D-Will

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and re: Henderson to Knicks

that was mentioned 3 or 4 days ago

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:34 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

"What Hansbrough does

is allows you to keep Boozer & Millsap, and then trade one of them at the deadline…"

Um… salary cap issues there, just maybe?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:39 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

No idea.

You’d have to ask Locke.

If Booze doesn’t opt out, I’m pretty sure we miss out on resigning ’Sap

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unrelated

it seems Michael Jackson just passed away.
Wow…

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:46 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Rumors from DX...
Minnesota appeared to be playing it cool in regards to Rubio early on, but has emerged as a major suitor for his services this evening, which will make things very interesting leading up to the #3 pick. OKC seems to be asking for Al Jefferson right now…will they settle on Kevin Love?

Right now it appears that Oklahoma City is leaning towards picking Rubio and keeping him as a trading chip to potentially use this summer. A few sources we spoke with mentioned that they still expect Rubio to end up in New York when it’s all said and done.

Oklahoma City is also active in trade talk with Phoenix, with their main target appearing to be Robin Lopez. They are reportedly offering Phoenix their 2010 unprotected pick back in return for Lopez, but that seems like a very high price for the Suns to pay.

Sacramento seems to be leaning towards Tyreke Evans from what we’re hearing, and may have even told him as much.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 3:53 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

OK Locke, it's on

you just called T-Will a knucklehead.

I hope your leg falls off.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 4:00 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

My Mock Top 10

1- LAC: Griffin
2- MIN (trade with Memphis for 5 & 18): Rubio
3- OKC: Thabeet
4- SAC: Evans
5- MEM (from Minnesota): Curry
6- MIN: Harden
7- GS: Hill
8- NY: DeRozan
9- TOR: Johnson
10- MIL: Flynn

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 4:18 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hot damn

if the Jazz pick T-Will, Locke might seriously join Farrah Fawcett & MJ.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 4:24 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT TIME??

DOES THE DRAFT START?

by P_Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 4:39 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks

now i know when to get off work

by P_Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that old news?

i’d only read about brewer and sap

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, old as in

a couple hours ago

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

i seem to be be behind in everything

i should have gotten up earlier

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

THE KOOF WAS VERY EXCITED FOR A MOMENT.

YOU HAVE DISAPPOINTED THE KOOF.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

dear THE KOOF

for future reference, i refer to you as kk2.

sincerely,
moni

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

THE KOOF KNOWS THIS.

IT JUST GOT CARRIED AWAY. THE KOOF WOULD APOLOGIZE… BUT THE KOOF NEVER APOLOGIZES.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Locke just got back on my good side

picked Toney Douglas in his mock for the Jazz.

Maybe.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 4:52 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade close (Sacto/Portland)

Sacramento and Portland are closing in on a deal that would send Sergio Rodriguez and the #38 pick to Sacramento for #31.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 4:53 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

this feels like a 5-year high school reunion

it’s been forever and a day since the last thread

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 4:57 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Im glad everyone is wheeling and dealing

While we take the wait and see approach that has worked year in and year out! Geez KOC get with the program!!

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 5:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Locke asking

biggest need as a back-up.

Um… PG?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:08 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ric Bucher
Ric Bucher reporting the trade rumor Amar"e Stoudamire to GSW for Belinelli, Biedrins, Wright, and number 7 pick

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Changed my mind

I’m at home with you guys for the draftness. Turns out my virtual friends are more awesome than my real ones.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

actually

it has less to do with that and more to do with the combination of working super late, getting up “early” to watch the Brazil-South Africa match (and my Bafana Bafana came so close!), then crashing back to bed and only waking up now.

As the Twitters say, FML.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

you make us all feel good, then shoot it down.

Thanks.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

I’m just kidding. Honestly, I couldn’t find anyone else to go with me, and my roommates wanted to stay here and watch. But all that other stuff is also true. So yeah.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

P_Dizzle

Living in Tampa, I hear lots of Magic talk on the radio… So I can probably provide a little insight.

Obviously, Vince is a huge star, and I’m sure many magic fans are doing back flips of the epcot globe right now. However, there is also lots of skepticism on how Vince and Howard will work together.

I know one popular sports talk host called the trade “Terrible”, saying that Vince has always had an inconsistant jumper, and that his style of slashing to the hoop would not mix well with Howard’s game.

   Meanwhile, the Nets get Alston, Courtney Lee, and a player I can’t remember while freeing major cap room. I hear there is a certain Player that the Jay Z wants to lure to NJ in 2010.

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 5:17 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

so what about turkoglu?

does this trade mean that turk is gone and they won’t TRY to resign him. is this trade kind of a middle finger to turk?

by P_Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We could have used Vince or Shaq or Crawford or Jefferson....

We have a good token in next years New York pick…..I would rather trade it and get some one proven then put my stock in some rookie.

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 5:20 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

KFAN blog

Atlanta picking between Teague & Johnson (Hansbrough gone)
Which means one of them (I’m guessing Johnson) falls to Utah.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear

That Turk is going to stay with the magic. I may be wrong but it seems thats the rumor.

Here is a question. Lets say that hell freezes, and KOC makes a deal that brings T-Mac (out of all people) to SLC.

Do you like that trade? How will Jazz fans accept T-Mac?? That is just to wierd, which is why it won’t happen.

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 5:26 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

T-Mac for AK?

I’d ask for something else with it, or I pass.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wouldn't like that

tmac is past it and i don’t think he’s a good team guy

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

but the contract is nice (over after a season).

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ohhhh babyyyy youuuuuuu

you got what I neeeeeeeeeeeeeed

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:30 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't know if....

…i would like tmac. guy hasn’t gotten past the first round. so he doesn’t bring any deep playoff experience. has never played 80+ games. over the past 4 years has had 2 sub 50 games played. i am tired of injury plagued athletes. give me someone who produces.

so i am not entirely on the bringing tmac to utah boat.

by P_Dizzle on Jun 25, 2009 5:32 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

At least

He would finally say Deron William’s name right.

Seriously, it depends on T-Mac’s health. if his knee is better, then he I think he’s worth a shot.

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 5:32 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

why did that guy say rubio likes pasta?

does he think spain and italy are the same place? ( -1000 to American public school system)

by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

true...

But this is D-Will’s team, and I especially if Boozer opts out, the Jazz are going to need a true scorer. Its a pipe dream, but its fun to speculate.

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Clippers on the clock

I pick Griffin.

Upset pick: Rubio

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Clippers pick Hanbrough…. That would be a true clipper type pick

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 5:36 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah

true pick would be a high-upside guy, a la Jordan Hill

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

no true

true clippers would be to draft griffen — THEN trade him for Hansborough

by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duh.

Kaman at C
Camby at PF
DeAndre at SF
Z-Bo at SG
Griffin will be the PG

Who needs guard?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

when anyone talks z-bo

I can only think of that play on youtube with him turning the ball over twice and shooting an airball.

by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

same play that comes to mind

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

awkward

super zoom in on that guy in clipps tshirt rubbing himself

by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

is blake's dad

going to have to choke a b***** ?

by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should we go for Kaman?

With the Clippers now having a logjam in the front court they can afford to deal Kaman or Camby…..I think we should go for Kaman…..good rebounder and shot blocker that we need.

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

funny thing is...

IF the Jazz were picking #1, I wouldn’t put it past Sloan to get Hansbrough. I can see him slamming his draft chart on the ground.

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

according to locke

the nuggets actually improved on defense post-camby and the clips d got worse with camby

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's hard to understand

but d went up with camby in LA because camby didn’t play defense on screen/rolls and never came out to defend shooters.

by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Capt Kaman

has a nice ring to it…

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 5:40 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

DX

Rubio’s camp doesn’t think they are going 3, and Harden’s camp has no idea either. Sam Presti does an amazing job at keeping everyone in the dark.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

someone remind me

how many minutes between each pick?

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 5:46 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

5 dollar

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

aw

nobody took my “5 dollar foot-looooooooooong” bait.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

+1 for that. THE KOOF SALUTES YOU.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

foot-looooooooooooong = kill me now

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

OKC

I’m thinking Harden

Rubio is the ‘upset pick’

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

damn, you know your stuff!

rubio is all like “damn” . . . he’s making his list of teams he’s goign to kill already

by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

hasheem's suit

banrupted the east african nation’s GNP

by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Kings

will they still take Evans? Even with the issues with him being the driver when his cousin killed someone?

Or do they take Rubio?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 5:54 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Still think it's the Ru-bizzle.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

... oops.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

oooh

I was thinking about picking up a pizza. I’ll probably do it later.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

a "Gretsky-like" feel?

what the hell does that mean?

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 6:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Curry

he’s not a good fit with Rubio (not much of a 2-guard… 2 short), but there really isn’t a better option for them.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:08 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

A trade?

They just took Rubio, don’t need him

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

that one makes my head asplode.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who gets traded?

Flynn or Rubio?

Rubio could net them more, but could also be more valuable for them.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

So how good will Rubio really be

The comparisons with Pistol Pete (“La Pistola”) seem a bit contrived

by Juan B on Jun 25, 2009 6:14 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

NY

Jordan Hill

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:21 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

should I stop?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

keep it up

I don’t have ESPN, and it’s easier just to follow you.

by Juan B on Jun 25, 2009 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not what i meant

ok i should have added “only likeable”

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, okay

that makes me feel better.

That said, if you have the internet connection, the draft is on justin

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

today for the first time ever

i got a message on justin saying that all the slots for my country are filled and to sign up for premium if i want to watch stuff

at times like this living outside the us sucks.

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope the Jazz do something, anything

that isn’t just taking #20 and looking ahead to the 2nd round.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:25 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Raptors up

Holiday, DeRozan or Johnson here

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:26 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

dude

you are en fuego. Been doing a bit of homework, eh?

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twitter rumoration:

— Suns’ war room apparently cheered when Curry went to Warriors. Part of an Amare package?

— Little chance that Twolves are keeping both Rubio and Flynn.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 6:26 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope the Bucks take T-WIll

that way, Hansbrough goes to NJ and we can get someone with a bit more upside

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:30 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nets...

Williams. Damn!

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:38 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

heh.

I know you had a big man-crush on him.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

is your "damn"

over twill getting picked or the nets not picking hansbrough?

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a combo of the 2

I didn’t think T-Will would fall to us, but I really don’t want Hansbrough to fall.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Locke points out, three good PGs left:

The top three points left are Holliday, Teague and Lawson. If either Indiana at 13,
76ers at 17 or Hawks at 19 don’t take a PG, we’re left with one of the above.

Locke has a wonderful grasp on the obvious, but I found it insightful

by Juan B on Jun 25, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yahoo's Woj on Twitter:

“The Indiana Pacers are determined to draft Pittsburgh forward Sam Young with the 13th pick, a league source told Yahoo! Sports.”

NOOOO

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 6:46 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

What???

Total reach!

You guys want Young?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

granted i've done no research

and i am pretty much completely uninformed

but young is my pick.

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miami Heat are "trying like hell" to get into the first round and score a deal to take the Minnesota Timberwolves pick at 18.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Look at the SB Nation/ BDL mock draft

So far only Clips, Raptors, and Bobcats have been correct

by prodigal punk on Jun 25, 2009 6:49 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Kinda Surprised

that Ty Lawson is still on the board. I feel like if he falls to #20, the Jazz have to go ahead and snag him…

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 6:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAAA?

Psycho T

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 6:51 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Maynor, Lawson, Teague, Holiday

Only Atlanta & Philly need PGs

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:52 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Teague

I forgot that Teague is still there. I’d be happy with Teague or Lawson

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure he can

The Pacers will need a coach soon.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

danielle can follow kk to his new team -immediately-
but jerry can’t.

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suns

Earl Clark.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 6:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Just realized via a tweet

Josh McRoberts is still on the Pacers. So is Hansbrough. THIS CANNOT END WELL.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 6:58 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Pistons

Daye it is.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:02 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Daye, the next Prince?

Prince trade this summer?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clark

Wonder what this means…if anything… for Nash.

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 7:02 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Vitale on Hansbrough

“he will win” (and predicted Curry = ROY)

um… with the Pacers?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

We better not be like

“oh look, Mullens fell” and take him.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Surprised

Will both of them be available? Who would you rather have?

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 7:16 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Teague has more upside

Lawson can probably do more right now

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

 League sources believe that Minnesota may be trading the 18th pick to Denver

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:18 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

T-Wolves

Lawson.
FVCK!!!

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:19 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 7:19 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

hehe

I thought of you as soon as i saw that :P

by sherbs on Jun 25, 2009 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad

I liked Lawson, so now its either Teague or Young

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 7:20 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Now hoping for

Teague or Maynor or Blair

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:20 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota

Introducing a new form of small ball

by Juan B on Jun 25, 2009 7:21 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

To Denver

for a future 1st rounder

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blair, Young, Teague

in that order for me.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 7:21 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

blair?

we already have a guy with no knees…

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that a mantra we want to carry on?

we have jerry, who just got one new knee…

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hawks

Teague.
FVCK!

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude

I bet you they do the Jazz pick during the commercial. Frak.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 7:25 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

We're back

Thank goodness. They were going to get a sternly worded letter.

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by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 7:27 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

So ...

Fatty, no knees2, the second coming of THE KOOF? (No offense to THE KOOF intended)

by Juan B on Jun 25, 2009 7:28 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Maynor!

Cool. Although I was warming up to Sam Young.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 7:29 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

maynor:

“must improve defense”

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 7:30 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Maynor

“true PG”

Good at getting to the hoop.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:31 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey

You can put that down for the whole Jazz team

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 7:31 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

About the Maynor pick...

I was kinda expecting the jazz to pick up a big man since we are all expecting boozer to opt out. Do the Jazz already know that boozer is staying, thus taking the PG with the pick.

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 7:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it has an impact

but I don’t think he’ll opt out.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

manyor?

what a waste of a pick what the hell is wrong with the GM? why didnt they take blair cause there going to loose boozer and millsap cause there cheap skates…

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Booze isn't opting out

and they’ll match on ’Sap

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

still the last thing they needed was a nobody point guard to play behind dwill and price

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a nobody

and no idea if Price will be back.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ive never heard of him or his divison 2 school

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:44 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

VCU

They shocked Duke in the MM 2 seasons back

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well....

Maybe they are not losing boozer. We already know that the Pistons have pretty much lost interest.

by brock38 on Jun 25, 2009 7:38 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Could we have picked Maynor for some other team to trade to?

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 7:39 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

What Locke says

if the Jazz thought Price was a solid back-up PG, we don’t take Maynor

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they view him more

as an undersized 2-guard

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maynor looks to be a solid backup to DWill and an occasional SG with DWill....

Check out this amazing Tribute Video for Eric Maynor….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDuf1vuhM5Q

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 7:51 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry UtesFan

Your link already had the tribute video…

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries

I wouldn’t have seen it at the link.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

weve got the next mo allmond

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:53 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

How so ?

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

hes going to tear it up in the d league for 3 years and then he will be gone

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

He’s our back-up. He’ll see action

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need a backup PG...

Why would we send him to the Dleague

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

the same reason kofus and fezinko have never really played.. jerry dont like to coach the kids

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

he got lucky that boozer and kiralinko are always hurt

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playing hard 100% of the time

Will get you noticed by Sloan

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

but this guy is a 4-year college pro. Not like the others, who are 1-year college or young/undeveloped

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have had Memo at Center....

Not really much playing time there….and when there was Collins got it.

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

so where is the playing time behind dwill and price? if hes a 2 guard we already got brewer and maybe krover.. or harpring

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was just a stupid pick

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who would you have preferred?

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

blake griffin?

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

blair was an all american… i was hoping for him but i guess boozer isnt going anywhere so i guess

by Brad the Tank on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blair's falling for a reason

his knees don’t exist.
Harpring is “no knees”
Blair is “NO KNEES”

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We could've gone big

but with Booze not opting out (most likely), no way he’d get time.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Price

is a free agent. No money to resign him.

And he’s not a true PG… so it doesn’t fit in j-slow’s system

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade

Dallas sends Mullens to OKC

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Quick summary: Crafty, clutch true point with excellent quickness and a well-rounded offensive game, although he committed too many turnovers in college. The biggest knock on him is high slight build (6-2, 175).

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN insider

if you’re an insider.

Link

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...
He is very confident and has the heart of a winner. He is not afraid to take over a game at the end.

The problem is his lack of speed and quickness. He does not have the athleticism of his younger competition. He does compensate for it with his height, length and dribbling skills. He operates at several speeds, has a nice cross-over and hesitation dribble. He moves in unpredictable bursts. He has a decent first step, good enough that a defender must foul him to get to the ball. However, he has shown that he can be a turnover machine which is very scary considering the competition in the NBA.

He can score. His free-throw shooting attests to his ability to shoot. He tends to go for the high difficulty shot, but he makes them, especially the floaters while he is flying towards the basket. He seems to have a bit of a mid-range game.

I did not notice an ability to get horizontal separation on his shot. He seems more likely to just shoot over or around you. I am concerned about that tre which looks like a throw from behind the back. But it goes in at a 36% clip which is not bad considering the other weapons he brings to the table.

This kid is different. He is not a standout in terms of the athleticism he has, but he has a nice package of weaponry. I really like his ability and potential for controlling the end of games. I also like his ability to play man-to-man defense and his willingness to put pressure on his man.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

USC's Taj Gibson?

sorry I missed that pick on ESPN

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by trojanangelfan on Jun 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

i cant believe he went that high

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by trojanangelfan on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were rumors

that the Jazz were thinking of him at 20…

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a USC student who watched him for two years

I am glad i dont need to watch him again

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by trojanangelfan on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

is there another trojan/jazz fan on here?

i thought i was the only one who existed

by bigdog'sshades on Jun 25, 2009 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

More or less

he has no ACLs

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont tell him that....

He would end up the first PF in the NBA with no legs….

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would Chris Johnson of LSU be a possibility in round 2...

Good shot blocker…very skinny like Austin Daye.

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

I know they like Taylor Griffin… maybe he’ll be the big they take this year?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he is not big

I believe he would be a SF.

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

if any of the five on the screen right there

are still on the board for us, I would be ecstatic. Too bad it won’t happen.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Maynor Quote

from vcu.edu

I just want to end up in the right situation," Maynor said. "Whether it’s No. 10 or No. 19, I don’t want to sit behind a bunch of people. I want to go somewhere where I can play and contribute."

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by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Grizzlies

DeMarre Carroll

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

starting to head into

“never heard of him” territory (at least for me)

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

via Locke

we have promised Jon Brockman in the 2nd round. (Don’t see him falling that far though)

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

3-year guarantee for him

does that describe what the Jazz would do?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Brockman

6’7 255lbs

Junior Year 18pts 11reb
Senior Year 14pts 11reb

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like he’s a Cubs fan, that’s a plus.

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by Basketball John on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is not Eric Maynor

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooooh ok sorry

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is Maynor btw

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

NBAdraft.net on the Jazz taking Maynor

The run of point guards continues, as Utah tabs Eric Maynor to back up Deron Williams. He doesn’t have the measurables of some of the other top-flight points, but he might be the most advanced pure point guard in this draft. He possesses tremendous leadership abilities and has that innate sense of what it takes to play the one-spot. He also made a name for himself hitting game-winning shots for Virginia Commonwealth in the NCAA Tournament. Maynor and Williams could turn into one of the league’s best point-guard tandems right away, and he gives Utah extra roster flexibility, as Williams can easily play 2-guard against most teams.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:10 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wolves

Ellington

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Chad Ford

Chad Ford on Eric Maynor: “most underrated player in the draft.”

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

...
Timberwolves officials are thus far resisting the advances of the Knicks and the wishes of the player’s agent and insisting that Rubio will stay in Minnesota.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

More Maynor

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/eric-maynor-nba-draft-profile-165709

Scouting Report: The best "true" point guard in the draft.

Strengths: Great passer with terrific court vision. Throws creative passes and a great alley-oop passer. Great at pushing the pace. Can get into the paint and finish with layups and runners/floaters. Clutch performer – not afraid to take the big shot. Good defender. Very quick player. Experienced player. Has range on his jumper out past the three-point line. Can be an explosive scorer.

Weaknesses: Didn’t play in a major conference. Needs to add size/strength for the rigours of the NBA. Not an athletic freak like some other prospects. Will be 22-years-old before the draft so he probably doesn’t possess as much "upside" as some other prospects.

Projected 2009 Draft Range: Mid to late first round pick.

Consensus: Eric Maynor might be the safest bet for a team looking to pick up a point guard in this year’s draft. While he might not have as high a ceiling as some other guys, he definitely has a very good chance to enjoy a long career as a NBA point guard.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

A bit on Brockman, just in case
Positives: While undersized for the power forward position, Brockman plays with good basketball IQ and is a tough, physical inside player who compensates for size issues with great strength, good balance and a tenacious attitude crashing the boards (first player in school history to lead the team in rebounds four times and the third to lead the Pac-10 in that category three-straight seasons) … Lunch-pail type who plays with a relentless motor … Strong inside shooter who consistently finishes around the basket (ranks second in school history with 1,805 points and ninth with a 53.4 field-goal percentage) … Likes to use his powerful frame to intimidate other forwards in the paint, as he is quick to gain position under the boards, especially on the offensive glass, where he registered 487 of his 1,283 career rebounds and will not hesitate to use his body to execute a block or box out a bigger opponent … Dominant presence in the post (converted more than 52 percent of his offensive rebounds into points) … Shows good court vision and is comfortable doing the little things (defense) without needing to have the ball in his hands … Strong, immovable object when he gains position under the rim, showing excellent rebounding skills off both sides of the glass … Lack of size is a concern, but he is a tenacious defender who uses his frame and lateral agility well to attack the basket as a cutter, drawing contact along the way … Has shown good consistency working in the post, as he has the loose hips needed to put in the turn-around jumper … Generates a strong drive to the basket, but is also capable of delivering a smooth spot-up jumper … Showed in the Portsmouth Tournament that he is capable of connecting his shots from the 15-20-foot range and demonstrated the release point and arch on his three-point attempts to be effective from that area at the NBA level … Is not the type who will make costly fouls, even though he plays a very aggressive game (has good court vision and basketball IQ) … Does a nice job of using his hands and throwing his elbows around to clear out the crowd in the paint and attacks the glass with the attitude that every rebound is his … Needs to improve his vertical leap (poor shot blocker, with just 18 blocks in 131 games encompassing 3,760 minutes), but has the standing reach, length and upper body power to out-muscle most opponents for the ball … Plays the defensive side of the game much like Chicago Ben Wallace – punish and dominate … Especially effective with his timing on the offensive boards, getting quite a few points on put-backs … Uses his body like a brick wall when asked to hold ground and box out in the post … Loves one-on-one confrontations, knowing his strength will let him drive to the basket at will … Has developed an efficient baby hook shot and when given room, he can also deliver a fluid reverse lay-up, thanks to his hesitation moves.

Negatives: Too short to play power forward in the NBA and needs to continue to work on improving his athleticism (especially his leaping ability) as his 6’7" wingspan is just adequate for a frontcourt player … Lacks range along the perimeter and is woefully untested there, having attempted just one three-pointer in his career … His touch working in the post is still a work in progress, but he has shown steady improvement … Good inside defender, but is sluggish moving his feet to get out on the perimeter opponent … Lacks the speed you look for in a possible shift to small forward and is a few inches shorter than you’d want in a power forward without great leaping ability … Does a good job of drawing contact, but has poor shooting mechanics from the foul line (61.2 percent free-throw shooter) … Has a nice release point, but needs to follow through better in order to improve his shot accuracy from mid range.

Compares To: LUIS SCOLA, Houston — Always in a supporting role, Brockman would not have it any other way, as he is a Scola/Kurt Rambis clone who takes pride in his rebounding skills and ability to get the offensive putbacks while physically boxing out anyone that gets in his way. He is a smart player who won’t make foolish mistakes, despite playing with good aggression. Like Scola and Rambis, he will make a nice living as a defender and situational substitute at a variety of front court positions earlier in his career.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:21 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay... not 'a bit'

copied more than I hoped to

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rubio...

“Right now, Ricky is likely staying in Europe one or two years.” Ricky pulling a Vazquez?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:22 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Brockman = Hansbrough

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

One difference.

TH is 2inches taller

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would say Tyler is more athletic as well, but it's a close comparison.

Both undersized and get by with pure hustle and desire to win.

by coffee on Jun 25, 2009 8:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice traits to have...

Sloan would have both of them if he had it his way.

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cavs take

Christian Eyenga, Congo

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Photo of Christian Eyenga

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Dude is SCARY!!

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man...

Jazz fans are almost as negative as Pirates fans. And the Pirates haven’t had a winning season in 16 season.

It’s the 20th pick. Give it a shot. You’re not going to find a HoF here very often anyways

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:25 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Tell them Utes!!

No every pick can be a Julius Peppers….right

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget Peppers (top 5)

not every player can be Jameer Nelson (who went #20 a bit back)

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

I think most of us regulars are fairly positive. Either that or we just slurp more of the Kool-Aid.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am mostly positive

except on the topic of one carlos boozer

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know

but reading the ‘live blog’ at 1320KFAN

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

the one at utahjazz.com

(from what i saw) was no better

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 8:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I think I prefer this over here. And twitter.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

those major population areas (nba.com / espn.com, etc) are full of fans who don’t know anything about basketball. smaller places like here, twitter, etc … guys know the game better. so the convo makes more sense.

by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 25, 2009 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

What will happen?

I wonder what will happen in a few days..who will opt out and what will we do? hmmmmm

by UtonganKidInCali on Jun 25, 2009 8:26 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ford's full thing on the draft pick
I thought they might go with Sam Young here, but I have to admit that I love this pick for the Jazz. They needed a backup for Deron Williams, and Maynor is perfect for Utah as one of the most NBA-ready players in the draft. He has a high basketball IQ and great leadership qualities. The Jazz fill a need and get a guy who I think is the most underrated player in the draft.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Pendergraph

I would have taken him. Shucks.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 8:32 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point by a guy calling in Locke

Jazz can’t get a back-up PG in free agency. No one will come in to play behind Deron.

Need to get one through the draft.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:33 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

and the 38, cash.

good luck dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

the move was to clear Sergio’s 1.6 million off the cap to get 9ish for free agency.

good luck dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

forgot about the trade

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would rather have Heyvelt over Pendergraph

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wizards

Jermaine Taylor

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:36 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Blazers

Dante Cunningham

3 straight guys that the Jazz brought in for work-outs

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:39 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

More than killer

Denver seems revitalized with Chauncey.
Portland is full of young talent, and good.
OKC & Minny are building up the young talent and will be good

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do too...

Young athletic guys.

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Eric Maynor!!

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:40 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Rotoworld

 
The Jazz selected Virginia point guard Eric Maynor with the No. 20 pick of the 2009 NBA draft.
Maynor is a work in progress defensively and he isn’t particularly athletic, but he has a high basketball IQ and enough savvy to run an NBA offense. Expect Utah to work him slowly into their rotation as a backup for Deron Williams.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:42 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

All talk about basketball IQ and being NBA ready

Niiiice!!

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pistons

DaJuan Summers, Georgetown

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Pistons draft sucks

Daye and Summers….I dont think so

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blair is gonna outweigh their entire starting 5

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

be funny

if we end up with t-mac…

by UtonganKidInCali on Jun 25, 2009 8:48 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Then for sure no playoff wins

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhhh No!

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries

he’ll be hurt before the playoffs, so we’ll be fine.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who did Blair and Young go to btw?

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:48 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

What pick are they on?

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spurs are loading up for another run...

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Young guys?

They have like 2. Blair & George Hill

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Young guys broken down

everyone else (save Jefferson, maybe) is ancient.

And we still can’t beat them.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who knows

Blair might be good behind Duncan

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blazers

Jon Brockmon (to the Kings?)

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:54 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Vroom, Vroom Der Pahty Stahters

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by clarkpojo on Jun 25, 2009 8:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Um...

you missed the first round

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

30 minutes and he is on

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pistons

Jonas Jerebko, Sweden

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 8:58 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

No idea

some good Gs left, but we don’t need them (Meeks, Mills, Calathes, Thornton)

I think they like Taylor Griffin

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heytvelt?

Jeff Adrien?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

calathes

corner the market on the american/greek dual citizenship players?

by moni on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Utes

We could get Danny Green still

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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 25, 2009 9:01 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

He’d be nice too. I think he had some bad workouts and all though.

I just don’t know if the Jazz don’t go big here.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derrick Brown

Xavier to the Bobcats

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:01 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Bucks

There goes Meeks

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Maynor was a nice get for the Jazz. Blair was a great value get for San Antonio.

Jazz will take Delaney from UAB in the second round. Or Tony Gaffney from UMass.

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by clarkpojo on Jun 25, 2009 9:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Delaney?

Another PG?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Gaffney

a 6’8 big. I hope we’d go taller if going big.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patrick Beverley to Lakers

Jazz worked him out too

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I can has Budinger?

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 9:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

BAH

I jinxed it.

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by Shums on Jun 25, 2009 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You or Locke

they’ve been talking about him for a while.
Did Meeks, he fell.
Thornton, he fell.
Now Budinger

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pistons

Chase Budinger

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 25, 2009 9:14 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs