UPDATE 2 - Carlos Boozer opting in, regardless, Now Okur is opting in.
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 3:50 PM MDT
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Will Booze follow through on his promise to opt out? Will a deal get done for Memo today? Discuss all of your opting out fears here.
UPDATE [Note by Basketball John, 06/30/09 3:31 PM MDT ] - Boozer opt in or does he?
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Is the clock right?
I thought he had until 10pm tonight.
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 9:49 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought so too
But it’s until 5 ET.
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
start a new countdown clock
For “Until Millsap is in OKC making bank”
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 10:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That would make me seriously depressed.
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would make me a Thunder Fan
I might have to break out my vintage Darryl Dawkins “Chocolate Thunder” poster. (My cousin in TN has it.)
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
The Zombie Sonics are doing EVERYTHING right. Bastards.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their arena warm-up music should be
“Who’s cryin’ now”
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should've had a similar clock for CJ
last year.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do I have this bad feeling
that nobody will opt-out and we are simply screwed for this season?
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 11:23 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
HURRRY BBJ -
We need to establish f-word usage parameters before Booze opts-in, just to manage the immanent barrage. Are we suspending the F-word ban for, say, a 24 hour period? Or should we just use F%&$ and F&$%ing and that dumbf#$%?
Hurry and let us know – we’re down to 3.6.19
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 11:53 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Do it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by diviesti on Jun 30, 2009 11:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I love your sig...
Bouton is a great guy.
by Patrick517 on Jun 30, 2009 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you can't listen to the radio
I would assume our best bet for finding out would be http://twitter.com/lockedonsports
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 12:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
What are our options with Boozer?
If he opts in. What can we do? Can we still trade him?
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Jun 30, 2009 12:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
If he opts in
we may very well be able to trade him but we will still be deep in luxury tax land…
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
we can
send a hit man just to bruise him up a lil we have 3 hours make him opt out
by UtonganKidInCali on Jun 30, 2009 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Despite Boozer's lack of physicality on the defensive end ...
I would be worried about your hitman. Booze has been conserving energy (by not wasting it on defense) and might just take out your hitman.
by Juan B on Jun 30, 2009 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thinking about it...
I don’t think I’ve ever actively wanted a player on any of my favorite teams to leave. It’s kind of strange, but that’s how it is.
by Patrick517 on Jun 30, 2009 12:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
that's exactly how i feel.
i’ve never not 100% rooted for my team until boozer came along.
by moni on Jun 30, 2009 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
boozer is a good player, and a vital part of that amazing run we had to the west conf. finals . . .
I just don’t think that he opts out, in terms of $$$ loss . . . wouldn’t mind seeing him go though.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 30, 2009 12:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No one talking about it
rumors (at least) that Price will be the Sixers back-up plan if they can’t resign Andre Miller.
Bye bye Price?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 12:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
the bird's the word . . .
actually, we have to wait another 90 mins
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 30, 2009 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the word is
Barbarians rock in Diablo 2.
What’s the deal behind your handle, anyhow?
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's an amzing handle now that i think of it . . .
maybe he prays to Crom for strength and goes around killing evil wizards a la Conan from the original books?
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 30, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
what purpose does it serve boozer
to wait until the last second? i’m sure he’s already made up his mind. and it’s not like the jazz are trying to work out an extension like they are likely doing with memo.
he just enjoys being a prick.
by Brigadier Pudding on Jun 30, 2009 1:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if the team knows by now
And just hasn’t been announced.
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think memo just wants two things:
a raise, and a longer contract . . .
if push comes to shove, i think he’ll take the longer contract over the per anum raise that’s ridiculous.
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jun 30, 2009 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
i really thought the jazz would put out a solid offer and get him locked up before the deadline.
odds are that he’ll be back, but nothing is certain.
by Brigadier Pudding on Jun 30, 2009 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's the okur story from the trib
http://www.sltrib.com/jazz/ci_12722476?source=rss
guess there’s a 10pm deadline? i’m beyond confused.
by Brigadier Pudding on Jun 30, 2009 2:15 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
10 pm
Is when free agent negotiation begins.
by scrantonicity33 on Jun 30, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
so the jazz have the exclusive window (yeah right)
to negotiate with okur until 10pm, at which time he becomes an UFA.
gotcha.
by Brigadier Pudding on Jun 30, 2009 2:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
And his agent is in town
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
KOC on the radio yesterday
said they (Boozer, Okur) had until 10 PM.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 2:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Unrelated to this
Pistons fired Curry.
Less likely they trade Rip, I guess.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 2:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
How much more leverage would KOC have for free agents if Sloan were gone?
oops, is that blasphemy?
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
42
I don’t know how that fits, but 42.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does no news mean opt-in by default, or does he have to announce one way or the other?
three minutes for heaven’s sakes. He’s not opting out.
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 2:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
will there be fireworks
when the clock reaches 0?
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 2:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
In some ways it's interesting to speculate if the Jazz would be better without Sloan.
I’m sticking with him though.
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by i_am_pure_barbarian on Jun 30, 2009 2:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
My name is from my Chiefs blog.
Has Jared Allen been a good boy for yall? No DUI’s I hope…
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Sap
Grizzlies trying to trade for Z-Bo, but also like ’Sap & Lee.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 2:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It has reached 0...
and somehow I feel…the..same…
hmm…
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 3:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
nothing on the radio yet? Anybody listening? (no reception in Oakley)
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 3:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Locke's talking about when the deadline actually is, because they don't know anything yet
Half the sources say 3:00, other half say 10:00. Man, this wait is killing me.
by shandonfan on Jun 30, 2009 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's ten, then I've wasted my morning.
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 3:08 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I read that Kevin Kruger is playing on our summer league team.
I think he would make a really good cheap 3rd PG. He did very well on the Utah Flash. He could really shoot the ball. Thats if Price is let to leave.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 3:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I and others here have been calling for this to happen for a while.
Gotta be > or = Brev Brev.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would definately be a Halloween Hit!!
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find the spastic flipping of the numbers on the countdown clock strangely appropriate.
We’re all freaking out waiting for news, and so is our clock. It’s like waiting past the 108 minutes before pushing the button on LOST. Hopefully the ESA doesn’t explode in an electromagnetic burst.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 3:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a solution
Call this guy named “McGruber” he can fix any situation….
“McGruber”!!!
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
UtahProgressive twitter
ESPN’s Chris Ford stating that Booze will indeed Opt out!! Thank GOD! #Jazz fans have a reason to smile today ; ) Bub bye BOOZE! #nba #slc
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 3:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
How reliable is this info?
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea
Locke just said he opted in.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap!! lol
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say
we put it to a vote then and call it decided. :)
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shums,
I just noticed your avatar…that is really cool…no pun intended.
That would be a sweet mascot…like the Ice Man..
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 3:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Locke
Booze has opted in, Okur has till 10
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 3:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Freak me.
Boozer opted in to just spite the countdown clock.
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 3:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
So...
So, Chad is saying he’s opting out. Locke said he’s opting in….. Maybe Boozer told Locke he’s opting in, but then changed his mind and told Ford he is opting out. Or vice versa. Maybe he’ll opt in-between….
Are we sure he’s in?
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 3:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
He has never truly been "in"
I think he has always been “in-between”…
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
F$%&
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 3:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Except
When it comes to help defense. He always opts out then..
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 3:30 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
official
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705313973/Boozer-not-opting-out-of-contract.html
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 3:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Countdown clock gone
It was messing up the pages badly. Fitting.
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 3:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
as handles go, I think Brigadier Pudding requires a bit of explanation too
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
stole it from a book
pynchon’s gravity’s rainbow.
by Brigadier Pudding on Jun 30, 2009 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's trade him for Millsap or Okur
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 3:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
So this is another thing Boozer has gone back on his word on?
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 3:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I get it
…it is like opposite day – whatever he says he will do he won’t and whatever he says he won’t he will.
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now if he'd just say
I don’t give a damn about defense.
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
he will prolly say exactly what he did last year – that he his committed to the team improving defensively.
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah....
How do you sell this…..
Hey X team! How would you like an expiring 12 million contract, and a player that will probably only play half a season, and get owned by gasol, odem, and anybody playing offense against him? Start your bids now!
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 3:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
On the plus side
and this is the ONLY plus side I can think of… he’s now in a contract year. Which means he’s going to play his ARSE off to prove to other teams that he still has value.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 3:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe
he will play even softer on defense to avoid injury…
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
how long would you have to sit out on injured reserve if you played your arse off?
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah....
Maybe he’ll hard fowl the guy that beats him instead of just getting dunked on.
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 3:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
If I'm KOc
I say, “We’ll take Prince and your first round pick next year for Mr. Carlos Boozer.” This is the Tom Sawyer approach (“If you give me your apple, I’ll let you whitewash this fence.”)
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 3:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
hard fowl is my new screen name... I call it
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 3:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
nope, my new BAND name
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be great...
If this was the Atlanta Hawks blog
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 3:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
So....
Okur, remember that hometown discount you talked about earlier?
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 3:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
He said
$3-5 million over the life of the contract. The Jazz are still going to have to pony up.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny....
Show’s how much my wife is behind in Jazz Basketball.
Me: Oh no! Boozer Opted in!!
Wife: The gay guy?
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 3:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
+1
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't expect that
And this isn’t one of those good surprises for Jazz fans.
by randomguy on Jun 30, 2009 3:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Say Booze stays (meaning he's not traded)
and we end up losing ’Sap & potentially Okur.
How good are we next season?
Top 4 in the West?
Top 6?
Playoff-bound?
Lottery-bound?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 3:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
hopefully
lottery-bound because we certainly aren’t championship contenders.
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows....
Depends on how comitted he is to winning….well there you go. Lottery Bound
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the plus side to that (I guess)
is 2 lottery picks to team up with Deron.
On the minus-side, we probably lose ’Sap this year (and Okur?), and then see Booze leave after next season.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the down side....KOC and Sloan will be drafting.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I foresee Cole Aldrich (tall white guy from Kansas… the next Greg Ostertag?) being a pick
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aldrich and Hmmm...Tim Tebow...lol
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I’d cry.
Of sadness.
Kinda like today.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see
a lot of drama/tension going on between greg and booze this year…
by MelMan2002 on Jun 30, 2009 3:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Prediction....
The Jazz are going to lose Okur. They are going to let him walk and let Koof start at center next season with either Frenz or Gotat as back-up.
I think the Jazz are going to give what they would have spent with Memo to Millsap.
Here is a question….. I love Millsap, but he is going to be a reserve againt this season with boozer coming back. Do you pay 8 million for a reserve?
I say yes, partly because I don’t see Boozer signing an extension with Utah.
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 3:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
If you re-sign 'Sap though
to be a back-up, how does he take it (even if it’s for a season)?
Does he hate the Jazz? Does he hate Booze? j-slow?
And how does it affect his play, knowing that he could be a starter elsewhere?
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Okur is more expendable than 'Sap
But for toughness and rebounding you need to keep ’Sap.
Lose both: Lottery-bound
Lose Okur: Possible Playoff-bound
Lose ’Sap: Lottery-bound
by randomguy on Jun 30, 2009 3:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The thing with Okur
first, he can play 2 positions. Not as tough maybe, but still able to play both. Stretch out the floor (key for a team that depends on guys cutting to the hoop) and all that. And he’s a good defensive rebounder.
second, the outside shooting is huge. More so late, when he’s ‘clutch’. I hate harping on this, but the fact is, if you need a shot late, he’s willing to take it. We have maybe one other person (Deron) we can trust with that.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have only this to say
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 4:00 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
I dont think its a problem....
If he is being paid like a starter. In other words, the pay Sap 8 million a year expecting him to be the starter after this year.
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 4:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
For the record...
The Jazz are never a lottery team as long as #8 is there and healthy.
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 4:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice
Love that comment but DWill does need some ballers to help him out.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that...
With #8 running the show and AK47 in the mix, the worst this team will be is mediocre.
by Patrick517 on Jun 30, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
When can we trade this guy?
Should a sign and trade be in the works as we speak??/
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No sign-and-trade needed
he’s already under contract.
Unless some team wants a huge contract to guarantee it’s not a 1 year rental.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang thats true!!
Didnt think
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true
Utesfan, Memo does get those rebounds and stretches out the floor. But now days it seems much easier to find a shooter like Memo, then to find a hard-nose type player like Millsap.
by randomguy on Jun 30, 2009 4:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’d love to see both of them back. I just don’t see it happening.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing we need to make sure is that Miles is not starting!
Miles should not start at all. Especially if we lose Okur. We probably should have kept Almond for his offense. DWill is set at Point. then SG would be Brewer…he is set. SF is where it gets icky. Miles, Harpring, Korver, and AK…..If Harpring is healthy I say start him. He is a physical beast at SF. We will need that. Then Boozer at PF….and after looking at what Koufos did in the DLeague….he could be a sleeper to have a breakout year. He was a monster on the boards and blocked shots and scored the ball. We may not be that bad off if we lose Okur and Milsap…
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Then a bench of
Korver,AK, Miles, Maynor, Suton….hopefully Kruger and maybe Jimmy Baron, Fesenko. could be nice..
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
if Okur is gone, we need (more like NEED) a shooter at the wing. With Brewer starting, we don’t really have a shooter. Like I stated above, the team needs (NEEDS?) a shooter to spread the floor. The offense depends on 2 things… players cutting to the hoop for lay-ups, and physical play down low by the PF.
Both require a shooter to spread the floor and work. Okur gave us that. Now it’s on the shoulders of Korver & CJ. One of them has to start. Otherwise, teams will just crowd inside, making it near impossible for Booze (sigh) and the cutters (mainly Brewer & AK) to work well. And that’ll just freeze the Jazz offense. They’ll start settling for jumpers… and the Jazz don’t like jumpshooters, so that’s bad.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why I mentioned Baron.
A 3pt specialist like Korver. Even at 6’3…we need those shooters I agree 100%. But I would rather them be Guards and SF…..Not our Center. Koof should be able to play great.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is correct
Okur’s greatest value to the Jazz is the spacing he provides offensively. Since he plays more on the perimeter on offense, it keeps outside defenders honest and opens the lane for Deron to drive and Boozer/Millsap to pound. Without that spacing, the offense crumbles.
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by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many championship teams have a 3pt shooting Center?
None that I can think of….they are all defenders that rebound and alter shots. Koufos and Gortat are the kind of Centers we need….not Okur.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-point shooting center
is a new introduction to the league (relatively). It’ll happen.
And maybe not a center, but the Pistons had ’Sheed. He was a 4, not a 5, but pretty much the same thing.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
But who was the Center??
Exactly…Big Ben…the best Center defender back then by far.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but you can win with a
3-point shooting big (a la Okur).
We just need a good defender (read: not Booze) alongside him.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who says you can win with a 3pt shooting Center?
Did we do better with Ostertag or Okur….
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ostertag played alongside Malone.
Malone >>>>>>>>>>>>> Boozer
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
Stockton and Hornacek. In other words, overall a much better team back then.
by randomguy on Jun 30, 2009 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
disagree about Almond
he wasn’t generating ANY offense, especially since he likes to create with the ball in his hands and the Jerry Sloan offense doesn’t run that way for 2-guards.
The roster is going to end up:
PG: Deron, Maynor, Price/Kruger
SG: Brewer, Miles/Korver
SF: Miles/AK, Harpring, Korver
PF: Boozer, AK/Koufos
C: Koufos, Fesenko/Suton
I don’t even know if that’s a playoff team. Unless Boozer starts playing 40+ minutes a game and The Koof destroys the universe, we’re in the lottery.
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by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think Miles starts again?
I consider that a failed project. I would rather have AK or Harpring start.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't followed him closely,
but isn’t Miles a decent outside shooter?
by randomguy on Jun 30, 2009 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is a decent outside shooter.
My point is, the Jazz at least need the THREAT of an outside shooter (not just the PG) in the starting lineup for the offensive spacing to work. Without it, the lane clogs up, the defense focuses on Boozer’s offense and Deron’s dribble-penetration, and we settle for jumpers. If your starting five is Deron-Brewer-AK-Boozer-Koufos, there’s not a shooter in that bunch. You either start Miles or Korver to spread the floor, or the offense stagnates.
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by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
We have Wesley Matthews, Kevin Kruger, and Jimmy Baron on our summer league team. All real good scorers that can shoot the ball very well. I would think we could use 1 or 2 of them. They would help us out a lot by helping to spread the floor. Especially the way the Lakers tore us apart with their shooters…..Ariza and Brown were getting open looks all games. We need that.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
but you can't tell me any of those are starters.
The point is, there must be another starting-caliber shooter in the starting lineup for the offense to work. If it’s not Miles, then it needs to be someone else. But it’s gotta be someone.
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by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 4:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not for the amount of money
the Jazz have.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matthews is better than Miles
IMO
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wes Matthews dunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sxZ7aQYk1k
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mo Nuts tore up the D-League
but it didn’t translate to the NBA. Whether that the fault of the team or the offense or Almond himself… it didn’t work. I’m all for giving him a shot, for sure. But to stick him in as the answer, and to proclaim that he’s better than CJ when he hasn’t played a single dribble in the NBA… that’s a little unrealistic.
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by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Matthews played at any level higher than summer league?
by randomguy on Jun 30, 2009 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played college ball at Marquette
More than you can say for Miles.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see Price sticking
too much money that way.
I think CJ will start. AK is giong to back-up at the 3 & the 4.
The Koof/Fes/Suton… will be interesting to see.
And that wing rotation (Brewer/Miles/Korver/Harpring/AK) scares me.
Not in a good way… it’s definitely not going to scare opponents.
We need to go get another long-range shooter.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed again.
CJ will start, AK will get minutes at both 3 and 4. Have to think The Koof will get the bulk of the minutes at the 5.
Oh, frak. I just realized something. With Boozer opting in, both Millsap and Okur possibly leaving, guess who that means the organization will want back, because he’s reliable and knows the system… That’s right, say hello to JARRON FRAKKING COLLINS. If we lose both Sap/Okur, Sloan is going to want someone he can rely on at center, because he won’t fully trust any of the Fesoufton trio.
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by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Son of a...
I could be more ticked at bringing back Collins that losing Millsap.
by Basketball John on Jun 30, 2009 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seconded.
Especially if he ends up starting over The Koof. Or Fesenko. Or Suton.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, you really hate Miles
Did you snub you in a grocery store or something?
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
He snubbed my team by playing like a loser when it counted the most. Miles was garbage in the playoffs.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand
Booze played relatively well.
We all saw how that ended up.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
"We are excited that Carlos has decided to remain with the Jazz," said Utah Jazz general manager Kevin O’Connor. "We are hopeful he can continue to play at an All-Star level and will have an injury-free season."
Translation: “You better not suck this year or get injured again, you back-stabbing bastard, you’ve already screwed us over financially for this season, you better at least play hard enough to give yourself some trade value or we’re authorizing Bear to give you the horse’s head in the bed treatment.”
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by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 4:45 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL
You are on fire in this thread!
by Patrick517 on Jun 30, 2009 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Centers and championship
Is Bonner a center? Was he with San Antonio when they won a championship?
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 5:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Locke
says Okur opting in too.
(via Twitter… take it FWIW)
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 5:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder....
If Okur would accept a new deal that is heavy on the tail end. In other words, accept less money this year but get more security and get paid more at the end of his contract…
(eg: 5 year deal
2009: 6,mil
2010-11: 10 mil
2012-14: 11 mil
Thats 48 mil over 5 years, and it helps the Jazz because they can pay him more later because lots of contracts will be coming off the books (Boozer in 2010, AK in 2012). The…what???
Memo opted in???
Ok. Scratch above prop.
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 5:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
that's too much of a jump
i think they can only increase like 15% or something so jumping from 6 to 10 mill is too much.
by P_Dizzle on Jun 30, 2009 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
does memo opting in mean he’s just under contract for one more year, or is it possible that they reached an extension agreement?
by moni on Jun 30, 2009 5:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No idea
could be either.
Maybe they’re moving towards an agreement, so he decided to stay? Or he just realized there’s no market for him this season.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I would like to say that the Jazz will do something to retain Sap. But I also thought for sure that Memo would opt out. So, I’m not going to jinx it.
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 5:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone got anything
to back up what locke is saying? i can’t listen to locke (out of region), so what can i see to verify this memo is in talk?
by P_Dizzle on Jun 30, 2009 5:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
are there any tweets??
(wow i am embarassed i asked for a tweet)
by P_Dizzle on Jun 30, 2009 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
1320, K-FAN is reporting that MEMO OKUR, CARLOS BOOZER AND KYLE KORVER ARE ALL OPTING IN AND MEMBERS OF THE UTAH JAZZ NEXT SEASON.
http://twitter.com/Lockedonsports/status/2411473784
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
just got a text from the jazz saying memo is opting in.
sounds official. officially over the cap? before signing sap?
by chamont on Jun 30, 2009 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
The cards are down and all eyes are on Miller. Did he really mean it when he said they would go over the luxury tax to retain Millsap? We will find out how far he is willing to go soon.
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 5:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
perfect
Who actually thought a week ago that the opt ins would go 3 for 3 and bat a thousand? I saw at least Okur opting out.
So I guess his agent was bluffing the entire time.
by brock38 on Jun 30, 2009 5:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
well...
… this is interesting. this is definitely a trend we are going to see this free agency. teams unwilling to dig into their pockets for potential players.
so can the same jazz lineup as last season (minus millsap) take us to the next level? i think someone has got to get traded or some midlevel signing.
yeah i thought it was strange that okur was even thinking about opting out. i can’t see anyone willing to pay him more than $9 mill. i can’t imagine he had that many teams knocking on his door.
by P_Dizzle on Jun 30, 2009 5:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
i would think that would be even more the case for boozer
memo had, arguably, a career year. boozer had another year in his career (i.e. injured).
by moni on Jun 30, 2009 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boozer
Also shot the ball way worse than his past few years…He better suck it up and pound the rock this season.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang!
I was kinda joking about us signing some of our summer league guys….Now it looks like that is all we can afford!!!! That is crazy!
Matthews and Kruger added to our bench…..both sign 2 year deals for a bucket of chicken and dibs on popping Boozers best looking zits.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
If that.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that
was possibly the worst visual image ever. The Boozer zits are bad enough, but you had to add fried chicken to the equation. Ye gods.
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by Shums on Jun 30, 2009 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well come on...
I was just thinking that Kruger could rub Boozers face with the greasy chicken and Boozer could let it sit on his face for a week so his zits can get world record sizes….then Mathews can come in and grab those big whiteheads and squeeze until they pop like a watermelon getting hit with a sledgehammer(Galagher Reference)…..
Then Sam Cassel and his Alien buddies will come by and gobble all the Boozer zit goodness up….MmmmMmmm!!
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now
Jazz have 11 players under contract (including Maynor) and $73.5 million owed to them.
The tax limit is expected to be around $70 million (maybe as low as 68).
You are required to have 13 players under contract.
Even if (when?) we sign Suton, we’ll need 1 more player (another PG?). And need to lose at least $3.5 million on the books, maybe more.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 6:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Crap
See what Boozer opting in did! Boozer you did this….its all on you!!
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically
it’s on Okur, because he opted in after Booze did.
But I’m all for blaming Booze.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I was just thinking that..
Okur had the pleasure of opting in last to seal Utah’s financial fate…..poor guy.
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
100% chance of a cost cutting trade.....I suppose
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by Matt_Grbac on Jun 30, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been cut off from all information today...
what happened?
by prodigal punk on Jun 30, 2009 7:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boozer opts in...
I’ve said he would for a while now. Now we loose Millsap. No hope there. He will get a few MLE offers… watch for him to sign with San Antonio if they can clear a little money… but they probably can’t. One thing is for sure, he will go where he can start.
Now comes all the trade scenarios involving Boozer. I thought the Bulls might go for a Boozer for Hinrich and Noah, but it is start to sound like Noah is almost untouchable from the Bulls perspective. Boozer will be traded with the right offer….. right now he our biggest trade asset, and expiring contract on a 20/10 player. If we loose this opportunity, I will become a Blazer fan… NBA league pass can make a man change loyalties.
by Frank5 on Jun 30, 2009 8:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Blazers?
Ugh.
I’d have to avoid the Northwest…
I like the Nets youngsters… Harris, Lee, Lopez. If only they’d have traded Yi instead of Anderson.
Anyhow, back to topic.
The Thunder really seem to like ‘Sap. The Grizz could get involved too… and the Pistons if they miss out on Villanueva. I’m worried that he’s gonna be gone.
I miss him already.
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by UtesFan89 on Jun 30, 2009 8:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My new favorite team is whoever gets Millsap
Actually, I’ve said before I could be a Blazers fan pretty easily. Maybe they just seem more likable because of the contrast to their jailblazers days only a few years ago. They’ve really turned around.
Boozer’s zits are worth a lot of money. I hope he plays big.
And I mentioned this earlier, but now the only way he gets a raise is by being injured MORE so that his hourly rate goes up.
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on Jun 30, 2009 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Millsap ...
would be one of the top few players on the team that I would have wanted to keep. All the best to the guy wherever he goes. The guy has motivation…. he once showed up in our little local gym with a trainer so he could workout during his vacation.
by Frank5 on Jun 30, 2009 9:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
He's one of those players that you root for
even after he leaves. I know I will follow his career and cheer for him regardless.
by Patrick517 on Jun 30, 2009 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
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