The Downbeat - 1 October 2010 - #329 - The Second Rounders Edition
It's no wonder that a lot of second-round picks and undrafted guys feel that they can make it with the Jazz when you have Sloan saying something like this,
They get out there and have a chance to prove themselves and make themselves better. I think that's what a lot of players lack, some know-how of how to play at an early stage, and that's something they can learn if they work at it. Maybe somebody cuts them at the beginning, but if they stick with it, there's always an opportunity. We've had a lot of second-round picks two have played well, going back to Bryon Russell, David Benoit and Howard Eisley, of course Paul Millsap and the kid we had last year, Wesley Matthews.
What up doe? Maybe the Jazz should just look to trade all future first-round picks for multiple second-round picks since they find such a high percentage of contributors in that second round.
We know that Sloan plays the players and not the contracts so it's no wonder why guys like Ryan Thompson turn down a spot with the Kings, and playing with his brother, to come fight for a spot on the Jazz. I don't know the Kings' situation, but he obviously felt like he had a better shot here.
One more thing about that quote that I like, Sloan referring to Matthews as that kid. We will miss OMSW but it doesn't seem like Sloan does; he just plays who he's given and doesn't lament over players lost.
So on the team's only visit to Chicago this season, we'll get to re-live the Bulls' first NBA title. Sweet. Jordan and Pippen will be there. Maybe in another 7 years they'll let us come to celebrate their last title? Yes, that was a dig at the current Boozer-Bulls team.
Trying to put your Jazz homerism aside, where do you draft the Jazz players this season for fantasy basketball? A lot of that depends on your league's scoring system, but is Deron a first-rounder, fantasy-wise? Al Jefferson's value could go up a bit. Who are your first 5 Jazz men drafted?
Could a change of scenery been all that was needed to release the best inside the KOOF? He wasn't supposed to be hanging with the TWolves this long, mainly because he doesn't play PG, but he's been making a name in training camp and impressed in the team's scrimmage. While the Jeffereson trade will likely still be a lopsided deal, it could be a little less so if the KOOF can get the time to develop.
In other former Jazz-man news, Ronnie Brewer and Korver are fighting for the starting job in Chicago. Ronnie has a sore hammy (not the same as last year's injury). They both are pretty one-dimensional as far as their games go. If you could somehow Voltron the two, you would have something. Of course, if that were the case, they would be getting paid a lot more.
So you should be able to see the new floor I'm assuming tomorrow for the scrimmage. The official reveal had been put off and we haven't really heard any updates since.
Doesn't the new court create a completely different feel to the ESA? The darker tones change the light reflecting off the floor. What affect will it have on the team? I'm assuming none as they're not likely looking down at the court when they're playing. Although, Memo could stand to take a quick glance down when he's about to shoot the world's longest two-pointer.
Screencap courtesy of Brett (@bvanwagoner)
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When I saw the title of the Downbeat
I thought it was going to be the second ever DB devoted to the poker movie “Rounders”.
that calls for a
Fesenko/Teddy KGB photoshop mashup.
Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
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1. Unless you are (a) a prima donna who wants all sorts of special treatment, or (b) lazy — is there any coach in the league you’d rather play for than Sloan? Everyone gets a chance, he values how hard you work more as much as talent, and he doesn’t abandon you over a few bad games.
I think the best example is Ronnie Brewer. He worked his butt off, earned PT, then a starting spot, then starting minutes. And last season, when he wasn’t playing so well, Sloan stuck with him. Ronnie B. had worked too hard, over several years, to lose his spot in even a couple months. As a fan, of course, it kind of drove me crazy. I want the guys playing best to play the most. But as a player, man I’d love that kind of loyalty and fairness.
I also wonder about Deron. We all know that he got irritated with Sloan his rookie year, that Sloan wanted him to work harder and Deron thought he was working hard enough. And maybe things would have been better had Sloan given the starting spot to Deron immediately (instead of Keith McCloud).
But here’s the one thing I know. Deron today is better than I ever thought he was going to be. I didn’t imagine a scrub, but I did not imagine the NINJA we get to watch every day. Every time I watch a game I wonder how much better Deron has become because Sloan made him work to get the starting spot and starring role.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
I've never been to boot camp
But I’ve compared Sloan to a drill sergeant who tears you down and then builds you back up into what he wants you to be. That’s kind of what he did with Deron and Deron’s better off for it.
by Basketball John on Oct 1, 2010 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Koof
I always thought Koufos had a lot more potential than people gave him credit for. I didn’t (and still don’t) understand people’s infatuation with Fes. I thought Koof was the guy we should have been rooting for.
apparently Koof's handlers were the ones to be angry at, not the Jazz brass
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Oct 1, 2010 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
I can't speak for everyone, but I don't care if Fesenko never shoots 50% from the free throw line.
Just watching both of them play, Fesenko has a massive, and I mean massive advantage in two areas I care about. He keeps people out of the paint defensively and he finishes at the rim a little better. I know he isn’t awesome, but Koufos is literally too slow to put up a shot at the rim. Fesenko has been able, when given the chance, to finish at the basket when open. Koufos couldn’t get the shot up fast enough not to be contested, even if no one was within 5 feet of him.
And Fesenko’s defensive numbers have been fantastic. I know he fouls a lot, but the bigger point is that teams shoot more jump shots and less layups and dunks when Fes is on the floor.
Koufos is a nice kid, but let’s remember what camp all the positive talk is coming out of. It’s Minnesota. Every team is a little bit overly optimistic at this time of year anyways, but I honestly don’t think Koufos will amount to anything more than an average backup center in the league. Fes will always be the better player, unless you value a jumpshot more than anything else.
Even with Minnesota, Koufos isn’t going to play more than 12 minutes a game and he won’t score more than 4 points a game.
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by clarkpojo on Oct 1, 2010 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
5. Maybe the darker shade
will help Memo stay outside the 3pt line.
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