Ronnie Brewer Traded To The Memphis Grizzlies
by Basketball John on Feb 18, 2010 1:41 PM MST
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So much for keeping the core together and "seeing what they can do."
From Siler,
- Ronnie Brewer to Memphis for protected first-round draft pick in 2011.
- KO'Connor: "I think the biggest thing that we felt was that - - I won't call it a logjam - - but that we had a lot of players very simila
- More O'Connor: "We had three or four players that were competing for minutes and we were able to turn that into a future asset."
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If this was CJ, I would be happier than ever.
Ronnie B. I will miss you.
This better mean Wesley Matthews is starting.
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Feb 18, 2010 1:47 PM MST reply actions
I guess it makes sense financially, playing time-wise, etc.
But still, it makes me sad. We’ll miss you, Ronnie B.
Bah.
KOC can call it what he wants, but we all know this was a financial move, and not a basketball move. Based on what we’re seeing from the Grizz this season the pick will be mid-to-late first round, where you’re not likely to get a player that’s profoundly better than Brewer.
Luxury tax?
How close to being under are we now?
I am so angry about this trade, I can’t believe this has happened…. if we are not under the luxury tax then i want to vomit!
From what I've read
It saves us about 3.8 million including the over-tax.
The move cuts $2,717,161 (according to HoopsHype) from the Jazz salary. So that means the Jazz payroll is now at $74,860,447. The tax line for this year is $69.92 million, so the Jazz are still about $4.98 million over the line.
True
But they did reduce their overall financial exposure by about $5.4 million ($2.7 in salary, $2.7 in tax). That’s makes up for a lot of unsold Toyotas.
Actually...
it limits their financial exposure by about $3.6 million: $2.7 million in tax, and $922K in remaining salary. (I didn’t take into account the salary that Brewer had already received).
Still, that’s a lot of unsold Toyotas.
CJ would have saved 3.7 M in tax and 1.26 M of the salary (this year)...
That’s a lot of unsold toyota + honda + American tin boxes (ford, chevy, GM, …..)
by iLoveBooks100per on Feb 18, 2010 7:48 PM MST up reply actions
More accurate reports had us at $4.8 million over, so I think we are still $2.1 over. But we also have to sign someone now.
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Keep in mind...
That the Jazz will still have to sign a 13th player. It is going to add another 100K or so to the payroll as well.
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If
CJ miles starts in place of Brewer. I will boycott everygame he is a starter.
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I'd rather that. . .
And actually have a shooter in Korver with the 2nd unit to do some damage. CJ would have the ball in his hands way too much with the 2nd unit
Matthews
Can start, He did awesome when brewer was injured and so was miles. I’d rather have miles whiping sweat off the floor.
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I will also
boycott every game CJ starts. CJ sucks…and gives me heartburn everytime he steps on the floor.
by wheatie on Feb 18, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you on THAT ONE
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by bucimislover on Feb 18, 2010 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
Although I hate to see CJ in, he IS a great passer.
Maybe Sloan can get in his head that he is not to shoot as much.
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Feb 18, 2010 1:51 PM MST reply actions
Have to travel
Of all days :). Be back tonight.
by Basketball John on Feb 18, 2010 1:54 PM MST reply actions
RIP
Basketball John has been traded away to the WNBA for a protected first round pick
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Protected WNBA 1st-rounder...
I’ll miss BBJ, but the player can’t be worse than Koufos/CJ/Fesenko right now, can she?
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They would be overpaying drastically.
by Basketball John on Feb 18, 2010 7:02 PM MST up reply actions
Lies
You would probably be the Kurt Warner or Matt Cassell of the NBA. Don’t hide it. We know you got game. I just hope the chick we draft is hot……..
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I feel bad
for Ronnie B. From starter in Utah to being behind the Mayo/Gay duo. Minutes will be much harder to come by.
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The Jazz have already lost two promising players
And gotten NONE in return!!! And theyre still above the salary cap!! Whats the deal???
Down with KOC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is all Boozers fault.
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Feb 18, 2010 2:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
And we still have CJ and Okur!!
AHHHHHHHHHHH
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by bucimislover on Feb 18, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
Why havent the Jazz gotten any new players this year?
Its making me mad
This isnt change, its depletion
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When are we playing Memphis?
Prediction:
Brewer jumps up for an alley-loop dunk. CJ is frozen like Windows 95.
I think every Jazz fan would have been happy if it was CJ instead of Brewer. CJ makes more than Brewer.
by iLoveBooks100per on Feb 18, 2010 2:15 PM MST reply actions
They must not have wanted CJ
I admit he still has upside, but Brew is a better all-around player today.
They need someone in case Gay leaves after the season
They have a shooter (Mayo), maybe they wanted a slasher/cutter instead of another shooter…
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That's half the problem
There isn’t another player on the Jazz that does what Ronnie B doe offensively.
It just sucks that we signed CJ a couple years back… we overpaid big time and have now lost a better player because of it….
This is the point
Sherbs is spot on here. If there was a logjam, Ronnie wasn’t causing it because his skill set is unlike the others at the wing.
I'll make it coach.
Our front office lies
This explains why Boozer feels its ok. He came to a team that feels its ok to lie to fans. He feels its ok to lie to fans. We needed Brewer to have a chance to contend. He was playing great team basketball. He didn’t need to score he didn’t need to make the highlight reels he made passes and rebounded what the heck else do you want from a guy he also leads the team in steals and always guards the wing player that scorches everybody. this deal sucks.
I am ok with it
would probably have rather seen CJ go, but they had too many players in the 2-3 spot. If it frees up time for other guys and saves some cash, its good, imo.
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We finally get to see Bozz play defense and we give away our beat wing defender. AAAH!
Irritated
I was just this irritated when Maynor was traded. But I got over it, and realized it was a smart move.
This is telling me that they were going to let Brew walk anyway. This way they got a first-round pick from the deal instead of nothing. As I think about it, maybe it was smart…?
So we're replacing a 3-year starter (more or less)
with the next Mo Almond?
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True.
But I’m talking about the draft pick.
(Which, if based on the past, means the pick will net us a guy who’ll spend a max of 2 years here)
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Yeah, but now he's in the Mavs division.
Maybe the Jazz planned it that way?
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I don’t think the Jazz fear the Mavs. We needed speed and length to compete. The FO should be thinking Laker and Nugget killers not payroll. Surely another round in the playoffs would have paid the difference in the lost payroll.
Which is why I would have like Tyrus Thomas
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Feb 18, 2010 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
Charlotte got him for 2 expiring contracts
couldn’t we have tried something with Brewer or Korver or someone?
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I want to keep Korver for sure though.
He’s playing better defense, and this year is 22 of 37 behind the arc. Nearly 60%. We need that kind of shooting to spread out defenses.
Plus, he’s clutch down the stretch when we need free throws.
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Feb 18, 2010 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
I totally agree on his defense. Last night he moved side to side real well. He also keeps his hand to himself.
He guarded Peja AND James Posey very well.
I was impressed.
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Feb 18, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
He certainly does
BTW, I really do like Korver.
I don't mind him
but if he’s the big move this off-season, we might as well give up.
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Laker killers...
we need a good big (that is actually tall)
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Fez and Koof
We have some bigs they just don’t get to play.
Yeah
but if they’re not going to play, they don’t count.
I don’t think Slow even remembers that they exist
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I dont think so...
I don’t think the FO is that smart.
by iLoveBooks100per on Feb 18, 2010 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
WTH?
Why did we trade our best wing defender?? Now guys will light us up for 60 points regularly from outside! This was purely to save money and nothing more.
These are my sentiments
If this was CJ, I would be happier than ever.
Well I guess the only thing I can do now is piss and moan, but this was not good in my eyes.
So do the Jazz have to sign another player or do we bring Koof back from the D-League?
So while teams added key players (Dallas, Houston, Cleveland, Portland) we are doing the addition by subtraction!?! Don’t get what the front office is thinking
Wasnt we loaded at Center and PF too?
I mean how is Millsap ever going to blossom with the Jazz? Should have just let him roll. Brewer was a great team player….Not to mention the second first round pick we just gave away.
Why dont we just trade away OUR 1st round picks to save whoever we draft the bullcrap
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
Because that would make more sense.
Our front office doesn’t do things that make sense. Unless there is a trade being signed that the media hasn’t seen yet this is a stupid move.
Why this hurts
I’ve had some time to reflect on this and here’s where I am. I don’t really care that Brewer’s gone. It was going to happen sooner or later and we did get a crappy pick for him so it’s not a total loss. I do feel as though I’ve been lied to by both KOC and Greg Miller. I no longer trust the Jazz organization. That is the troubling aspect of this trade. I will not spend money to support an organization that I don’t trust.
I understand that the NBA is a business and that Greg Miller lacks the passion that his father had. His facial hair also makes him look like a douche. What I also know is that the Jazz cannot survive in the NBA, competitively or financially, without a passionate owner. Today’s deal and lack of deals takes us one step closer to losing this franchise and exposes Miller’s lack of passion.
by tyrantking on Feb 18, 2010 2:40 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
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Why sign Millsap? Let him go and save all that money...and kept Brewer and Maynor.
I love Millsap but he should have been given the PF keys when he signed his contract.
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No. Booze should have been kicked out.
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Feb 18, 2010 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
Exactly my point
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
We still have a punchers chance
DWill, Boozer, Millsap, Okur, Kirilenko….we can still get slaughtered by the Lakers in the Playoffs…its ok.
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line ups
I liked SAP, AK, Brew, KK, and DWILL/Price great defense and fast. way to screw it up.
Plus
think of the loss of all the alley-oops & highlight reel dunks!
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That is what I will miss the most.
The ugly three he shot last night however…I will not miss.
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Feb 18, 2010 3:13 PM MST up reply actions
Looking forward, we get the Grizzlies 2011 pick
nbadraft.net predicts they will pick travis leslie with the number 12 pick
http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft
if we get him we might not miss brewer as much. watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvblnXCONLA
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Thats awesome but...
its protected… so if they don’t make the playoffs… we don’t get it.
by iLoveBooks100per on Feb 18, 2010 7:59 PM MST up reply actions
ugh
Brewer was solid. If anything, he was willing to do things besides just take shots which means he alleviates the logjam that CJ and KKorver are causing.
1. I hope OMSW plays out of his mind.
2. Korver better damn not miss any damn shots.
3. CJ better play out of his mind.
Best wishes to Brewer. He was classy, effective, helpful…one of the few young players that made progress because of sloan and not in spite of sloan.
I'll make it coach.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NONO NO NO NO
boozer (and cj) stay, and brewer goes?
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
some more thoughts from someone who's late to the party
this year ronnie b has shown that he’s willing to give up shots to do other things like rebound and pass the ball. isn’t that a sign of growth and a team player?
also, he was a lottery pick and memphis is rapidly improving…what kind of crappy ass protected pick are we going to get out of this?
boo.
More minutes for Matthews
I think Matthews made Brewer expendable. It looks bad when a team hoping to make a run in the playoffs gives up a starter for a draft pick, but I think this was a decent move. We saved money, got a first rounder, and have Matthews to step in. I like it.
I guess I'm the minority
But I think the deal is okay.
Look, always liked Ronnie B. a lot, but I never loved watching the dude play. The only thing Brewer brought better than anyone else was athleticism and highlight-reel dunks. And they do matter — you haven’t seen a Jazz game live if you don’t think they matter.
But KK and OMSW already do everything else better. Perimiter Defense? OMSW > Ronnie B. Rebounding? KK > OMSW = Ronnie B. FT shooting? KK > OMSW > Ronnie B. Hustle play? OMSW > Ronnie B. Outside shooting? KK > OMSW >> Ronnie B.
So if the Jazz can save $5 million while getting better or equally effective contributions from the other players they already have … why not? I’ve said it before, but Ronnie B. was pretty much everything he is ever going to be. OMSW has the chance to be better. So why not see what OMSW can become?
But if CJ starts getting 44 minutes a game while KK and OMSW split the remaining 16, I’m going to howl just as loudly as anyone else.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
I'm with you here
I think the deal was actually pretty good. I would have been much more upset if we’d traded KK.
Memo is the real player we needed to trade for the future of the franchise.
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I agree completely with everything you just said.
not to mention, as has been said, Brewer was not likely to re-sign here in the offseason. The Jazz and his representation were already miles apart this summer in extension negotiations, and that wasn’t going to change, since we’ll be just as strapped for cash this offseason with so much money tied up into AK, Deron, and Millsap. We don’t want to overpay for him, and we have players who can do very similar things. Makes sense all around.
Having said that, I’m with everyone else — I hope those minutes mostly go to Matthews. I’ve been a huge fan of his since the start of the year and I think he’s only going to get better.
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i think i'm more upset
about ronnie b getting traded rather than cj or boozer, than about ronnie b getting traded.
I totally understand that
Trading Ronnie B to clear up space to develop other players while simultaneously keeping Boozer is just stupid.
I had first planned on writing about why I don’t like Laker fans next. Then after last night’s game and the backlash from a few posters regarding my anti-Boozer comments, I decided to write about why I’m not a Boozer fan.
But now I’ve decided. The next post is about why the Jazz front office drives me nuts.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
Jazz will only save $2-3 million from dropping Brewer. They cut $5.4, but will have to spend 1-3 million to sign another player.
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This hurts
I loved Brewer. He was just unselfish, worked hard and never complained. The only thing that softens the blow of this is the unexpected rise of Wes Matthews, but man, I also would have preferred CJ Miles to Brewer. It’s tough to see such players leave – the ones that worked hard to earn respect in the eyes of Sloan and the fans.
may work out
I hate that an all around good guy and great ball player is leaving, but this will spread the floor more, give Kyle more p.t., and save money for next year. CJ better step his game up.
FWIW
Miami’s reported efforts involving the Utah Jazz and Carlos Boozer were actually to send him to Phoenix in a three-way trade.
The Jazz passed on an offer that would have sent Boozer to Phoenix, Amare Stoudemire to Miami and expiring contracts along with picks to the Jazz, according to a report from Michael Wallace of the Miami Herald.
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That didn't work...
the whole thing should be blockquoted…
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I'm glad
The jazz didn’t pull the trigger on that at least. Boozer is worth more than a few ghetto expiring contracts and draft picks, at least it gives us more a shot this year.
From what it sounded like though, no one really offered anything to the Jazz that made me upset he didn’t get dealt. I would much rather keep him for the remaining 30 games then just send him away from some weak role players and draft picks that might nto amount to anything.
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Expiring contracts would probably have been something like Haslem + Q-Richardson or something…
Ugh
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Exactly
I imagine the Jazz were demanding Beasley but Miami refused to throw him in the deal. I wonder why no one was after Boozer as much as they were after jamison, thomas, and amare. It baffles me. I would have thought he would have drawn bigger interest than any of them.
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I think
the fact that the coaches didn’t vote him into the AS game is a sign that our team values him more than the rest of the league. Probably because nobody watches Jazz games or even pays attention to Jazz player stats. Same reason Deron had such a time becoming an AS in the first place.
I’m not saying that I like Boozer but I think even in our dislike of him we hold him in higher regard (rightfully so) than the rest of the league does.
Bright Side of the Sun had something on this this morning
Didn’t have the details though.
by Basketball John on Feb 18, 2010 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
I’m a little surprised/upset/ over this. He’s been playing great for 3 years. This year was downhill from last year, and I wish Ronnie stepped up his game a little bit this year. Maybe his lack of scoring? I wonder what slown will do for starting the 2 spot?
I hope Ronnie succeeds with Memphis. I stated in a previous post in another thread, I wouldn’t mind letting Brewer go, but then there is CJeezy. He is the least consistent player on the team, I would’ve picked CJ for the trade instead of Brewer by a long shot.
by KaBar6 on Feb 18, 2010 7:18 PM MST via mobile reply actions
SO
Let’s start day dreaming about who the Front Office picks up with our empty roster spot.
I’m hoping someone buys out their contract and the Jazz make an offer. I doubt it though since they obviously are trying to save money. It’ll probably be someone from the D-League. I’m praying it’s a big man.
Maybe we can call Mark Eaton out of retirement. He can block a few shots still right?
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Who
I don’t really follow the d-league. Are there any bigs that can help in the d-league that don’t belong to another team?
This
Is a rediculious idea…..i’m well aware.
I will laugh my butt off in the Jazz pick up Luke Nevill from the d-league. He’s done decent in the D-league.
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Nevill
He’s 7’2" and 265. His looks reminds me of Dauber from coach.
The issue
I don’t think Nevill would get much more burn than Koufosenko.
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It was a joke. Nevill doesn’t belong in the Nba, he would just create more of a log jam of medicore back up centers we have.
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Well
the Jazz love themselves some crappy logjams…
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True
But he’s no hafa. Lets bring back Hafa. He’s probably put on weight and could foul the crap out of Bynum, Gasol, Nene, and Shaq
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No idea about the DL
though there’s probably something somewhere on Ridiculous Upside.
There might be some big guys listed here…
Maybe the Jazz will wait to see if Zydrunas Ilgauskas or Drew Gooden get bought out? Or Chris Richard, who the Bulls let go today? (I’m not sure who else is out there… Kenny Thomas was just bought out, but he sucks)
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doubt Ilguaskas could be talked into coming to utah without being offered alot more money than the cavs would offer. If he buys out, he’ll be rejoining the cavs most likely to help them push for a championship.
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Okay. Listen.
You can’t just say “Why didn’t they trade CJ instead of Brewer?” They’re not interchangeable, people. Ronnie is a better defender, more athletic, and has an expiring contract. CJ’s contract is longer and he’s paid more, plus he’s less consistent. People wanted Brewer. Nobody wanted CJ. If WE know that Brewer is the better player with the more flexible contract, don’t you think other teams knew that too?
Look how hard the Jazz had to work to move Brewer and all they got in return was a protected pick. Think about what would’ve happened if they were trying to move CJ instead, an inferior player with a longer, more expensive contract. (And oh, by the way, I’m pretty sure they DID try to move CJ. I’m sure his name came up in conversations today.) They’d have gotten zilch. Less that zilch. NO ONE WANTED HIM. (Okay, the Thunder wanted him once upon a time, but they’re too smart to give up anything valuable for him.)
Sorry, I’ve just been reading/moderating a bunch of user comments at work, and everyone’s saying the same freaking thing, and it DOESN’T MAKE SENSE. Brewer is not CJ. The fact that you made a successful trade involving Brewer doesn’t mean you could have just plugged in CJ instead. It’s completely illogical.
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We just don’t like CJ. So we wanted to yell and let off a little steam. No biggie.
I doubt the Jazz had to work very had to get Memphis to give up a protected first round pick for Brewer. In fact i bet memphis was like "hey will give you this pick for Brewer if you want’ and the Jazz said okay and memphis was like “oh dang!? that worked?!”
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Nobody wanted CJ. If WE know that Brewer is the better player with the more flexible contract, don’t you think other teams knew that too?
in that same vein, if a bunch of teams were going after all the other 20/10 guys in the league and not boozer, and koc was getting offered for boozer was bad expiring contracts and draft picks, doesn’t that mean that boozer’s not worth as much as our front office thinks he is?
I think it means
that the word is out on Boozer’s mercenary nature, and no one wants to give up anything valuable for a four-month rental, just to see him walk someplace else.
In this particular case, Boozer is actually worth much more to the Jazz than he is worth to other teams, because of how well the Jazz are playing right now. KOC’s bargaining position was, “Hey, we’re kicking butt, we’re happy to keep him till the end of the year and just let his salary come off, so you better change my mind with a sweet deal.” And other teams are thinking, “Well, we have no idea what we’re going to get from him, and then he’s just gonna walk… Hmm… Well, we can’t offer you much, then…”
Even if you’re talking about a sign-and-trade instead, so you eliminate the worry of Boozer walking away, then you have the concerns about his durability, his consistent desire to perform (when he’s not in a contract year), his defense, etc.
When you say Boozer’s not worth as much as our front office thinks he is, I think that’s entirely true. But what you’re really saying is that Boozer is far more valuable as a member of the Jazz than as a member of any other team. And I think that’s true too.
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100% agree
Another thing to note is: The Jazz could potentially still sign Boozer at the end of the year. I know the free agency class next year is huge but perhaps Boozer won’t be in as high as demand as he thinks he’s going to be. We haven’t really got any good offers for him like he thought he would be able to get. I know he wants more money but if he can get a decent amount and stay in Utah with a competing team, I really think ther eis a chance he’ll stay.
Moving Brewer/Maynor/Harpring, plus KK’s expiring contract might just be making space for an attempt to keep him. (I know I know the big contract milsap signed). Milsap is getting minutes and he got a big contract I don’t see why we can’t just rotate them like we do now. I know we’d be paying high for a “bench” player if we keep milsap and resign boozer but really, having 2 good powerforwards is a much better problem to have then not having any.
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I just can't see a long-term Millsap and Boozer pairing working.
Here’s my analogy.
Let’s say you’re an animator. You work for Disney. You’re the junior member of the animation team. But you’re good at what you do, everyone recognizes that you’ve got serious talent, everyone recognizes you’d be a great lead animator … BUT … every supervisory/decision-making position over you is already filled by a similarly talented 30-year-old.
Do you stay with Disney as the junior animator for the next 25 years, or do you start investigating higher paying/decision-making positions at DreamWorks and Fox Animation, etc?
I’d go applying with the other studios. Does that mean I’m a schmuck? Does that mean I’m disloyal? Should I put my ego aside for the good of the team?
Or does it mean that I simply want the chance to have the higher position and see what I can do with it?
Millsap’s that junior animator. He’s been the good soldier for a long time. He’s come off the bench for 2 years now, even though it’s obvious he has starter talent. But how long can it last? Should Millsap spend his entire life wondering if he could have been an All-Star if he’d started on different team? Or a Hall of Famer? (stranger things have happened — I remember a PG from some small-conference school who spent his first 4 seasons as a back-up and then became one of the top 3-4 PG’s ever).
At some point Millsap’s going to want to be a starter. He should have the chance.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
you would think the jazz had learned there lesson
Unless boozer is willing to take less money, it would be stupid to sign a guy who is so unpredictable having missed so many games with strains and sprains.
I don’t like even thinking about resigning him. in fact it makes me want to vomit.
I disagree
If we keep this core together and just add a few bits and pieces we could make a championship run. I think the jazz should try to do this. I.E.: Offer Boozer like a 2 year contract for like 30 mill. Front load the offer and add a team option on him. You take a risk with the 2 first round draft picks we have coming up this next year to help us add the depth/length/defense we need.
We Keep boozer and AK for another year together, 2 add too fresh rookies, we develop matthews/fes or koof over the summer. After next year, Both AK and Boozers contracts are expendible. We can A. either offer them another short contract with less money, B. Let them walk.
I just think we are close to being able to make it over the hump or at least challenge the lakers/denver/cavs/magic. We just need one or two pieces. Worst case scenerio is Boozer walks and goes else wehre and we keep milsap. No harm done.
that’s my 2 cents.
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I wonder
Is it possible Brewer didn’t like it in Utah. Is it possible the other players weren’t real friendly with Brewer anyway? Maybe he was a sore spot for others and this will strengthen our team.
don't think so
i think he was tight with deron, cj, and sap, and as shums pointed out, people wanted brewer.
It's kind of like when the Jazz traded Maynor
and everyone wondered why didn’t they trade Ronnie P. instead.
Well, because if Oklahoma City was going relieve the Jazz of Harpring’s $7.5 million contract, pay Harpring the said $7.5 million even though Matty had no intention of ever suiting up again — well, of course Oklahoma City would demand the younger player with more more promise.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
Side note
Denvers down by 4 and Anderson just went to the locker room.
... and they promptly just tied it.
I DO NOT LIKE THE JINXES.
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Brad Rock just said pretty much everything I think about the Brewer trade.
http://www.deseretnews.com/blog/41/10008384/Blog-Rockmonster-unplugged-More-On-Brewer-Trade.html
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LOL
LeBrick, ran off the court crying.
by KaBar6 on Feb 18, 2010 8:54 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Matthews made Brewer expendable.
Bottom line. I liked Brewer alot, and I wish him the best… but the fact of the matter is Brewer played because he was a good wing defender (not great at staying in front, but alot of steals and general chaos caused) and a guy who could get 10 pts by hustling. But Matthews is better. He is a better defender, he can get the same hustle points, plus he can hit the corner three. He is a better player. They wouldn’t have resigned Brewer (due to the payroll) when Mathews is a better cheaper alternative. Better to get a draft pick out of it.
It sucks in that we all liked Brewer, but he is young, rich, and plays BB for a living. No tears please.
IT WAS A GOOD TRADE.
gold stars and dunk-snacks for you
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Do we know the protections on the pick?
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Where’d you find that? Did I just miss it?
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of the ronnie brewer trade post on sbnation’s grizz site. i’m eating with one hand so you’ll have to find it on your own, sorry
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