The Downbeat - 19 February 2010 - #170 - The Cup Of Brew Edition
by Basketball John on Feb 19, 2010 9:26 AM MST
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For those 17% of you who selected Ronnie Brewer in the most likely to be traded poll, make sure to claim your prize.
A new update from Siler this morning,
If you read the blog last week, the Brewer trade shouldn’t have come as a surprise. I got a text from someone insisting that Brewer was the player to watch at the deadline - - not Carlos Boozer - - and that the Jazz would move him if they got the chance.
The Jazz had done more than listen to Memphis’ offer last month with Brewer. They initiated conversations with other teams about him as well. With their tax situation, the Jazz had the chance to ease the pain by moving Brewer.
I suppose the next question now is what type of player are the Jazz looking to sign to fill that 13th spot? I don't imagine they sign another wing player. We're pretty good at point guard right now I would say. Another PF? Maybe.
I'm going with a center or maybe a C/F. We have three centers technically but only one of them plays. So I'm going to say we sign another big man. Do we save any money though if we sign a vet or someone that gets bought out (Z?) in the next couple of weeks? I would assume the Jazz are going to try to get someone on the cheap.
That's where I would like to offer my services again. I'm a body that can wear a Jazz uni and sit on the end of the bench and see no PT just like the guy they're going to sign. And I come cheap. I can even bring my own jersey even though the top doesn't match the bottom. I also don't have an agent so there's no hassle. Just let me sign on the line.
Give me a call. But it might take me several years to get into shape just for practice.
Should we send one of these to Brewer?
One more question is who will get the start now that Brewer is out? CJ? Korver? Matthews? CJ has started before as has Matthews. Korver could certainly get a start as well. Sloan has always preferred to keep rotations the same before but has been mixing it up lately.
I think he goes with Matthews. CJ hasn't done anything to get the spot back and I think he wants Korver, as the vet, to come off the bench to help the second team.
I don't think it matters right now who starts though. The bigger deal is who's on the court to close out the game and Sloan has been putting the right group out there. We've had different mixes based on who's playing well and who we're playing. As long as that keeps up, I don't care too much about who's starting.
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1- Pretty sure that wasn’t me. It might’ve been… if I had gone with what I thought and not what I wanted.
2- I’m going to assume we find another big to sit on the bench. Because 2 isn’t enough.
3- I vote yes.
4- Arguments for all of them. CJ was starting before, and gives you a shooter alongside Booze. Korver has been playing well as of late, and is a shooter that can make his shots. Matthews lets you keep CJ & Korver with the 2nd team, which Slow seems to like. I hope it’s Matthews. I fear the worst though…
5- D-League call-up… it’ll be cheaper. Or maybe someone cheap that was released (Chris Richard)? I think Gooden or Z will be too expensive.
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2- I’d pay like 10 bucks to watch BBJ sit on the Jazz bench, waving a towel, initiating awkward high-5’s, and playing the last 45 seconds of a 20-point blowout. Maybe $12 if you got to wear the mismatched jersey you already own.
3- YES!!! And make it officially from his old Jazz-fans. Let him know we will miss him and wish him well.
4- My hope and my gut says Matthews starts. My fear is CJ plays 40 minutes a game. But thankfully Sloan generally likes players who work hard in practice and games to earn playing time.
5- D-League big guy. The point is to get more minutes to the wings — not crunch minutes again. As a note, does anyone else think it’s dumb the league expanded the minimum roster to 13 players? Good teams can only play 8-9 guys regularly, so there’s already 3 or 4 dudes one every team destined to ride the pine and make virtually no in-game contributions to the team. Why should teams be forced to pay for 1 more?
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1. I was not part of the 17%
2. I would like to see the Jazz sign a FA vet, but then comes the age old question, who wants to come to Utah? I would love to see Z or Gooden (is he and that rat tail available??) come over.
8. No but send the front office one of these:
4. CJ will start. Matthews should but for that same reason he will not.
5. I was wishful thinking and voted for a FA vet.
Just saw this...
1) I hadn’t heard any details regarding the level of protection that this draft pick from Memphis carries. I found this at nba.com/grizzlies:
The future first round draft pick sent to Utah is Top 14-protected in 2011, Top-12 protected in 2012, Top-10 protected in 2013 and Top-9 protected from 2014-15. If the pick has not been conveyed after the 2015 NBA Draft, the Jazz will receive cash considerations from the Grizzlies.
So in other words, it’s probably not going to be all that great of an “asset”. I guess you never know though.
2) yeah, probably a center or pf.
8) Let’s do it!
4) I really have the feeling it’s going to be CJ in the starting lineup tonight. I hope I’m wrong. I think it should definitely be Matthews. He played great as a starter early on this season.
5) I voted D-League call up. Is Luke Neville still with the Flash? That would be fun to have three 7-footers sitting at the end of our bench.
Question: Would anyone have a problem with putting in both Fess and KOOF and just letting thing foul the crap out of the other teams bigs for a few minutes a game? I mean, that’s 12 fouls a game — and if they’re hard fouls, that could wear a guy down.
2. A center. Not sure who is available and can be trainned in Sloan’s system in 2-3 months. We’ll probably get a benchwarmer and keep rotating Sap, Booz and Memo at C / PF.
8. Definately.
by iLoveBooks100per on Feb 19, 2010 11:28 AM MST reply actions
Not that it really matters....
But I find it interesting to read all of the Grizz fans comments in the Memphis newspaper this morning. They are all very excited to get Ronnie. Apparently they haven’t seen him shoot a 17’ jumper before. (That was just a joke, don’t kill me Ronnie B fans).
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/feb/18/grizzlies-trade-future-draft-pick-utah-shooting-gu/
4 – I, like many others here are not so high on CJ Miles. However the more I think about it, the more I wouldn’t mind seeing him in the starting lineup. If CJ is on the floor with Deron, Booz, AK, and either Memo or Millsap the amount of shots he is going to be able to take is minimal.
If he is on the floor with Price, Matthews, Memo/Millsap/AK he is going to be prone to jacking up more jumpers that make me want to slam my remote through my TV.
According to 82games.com, the Jazz have a higher winning percentage when Miles plays with the 1st unit than any other combo.
(Of course by going to that website you will now realize that CJ takes nearly 9 shots a game in 19.5 MPG. Also, you will see that the Jazz are a whopping +202 when CJ is OFF the court. Don’t say I didn’t warn you about these things.)
Have I lost my mind, or does this actually make sense to others?
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I hope that with D-will being pissed of about the Brewer trade, the Front Office does something to blow us off our seats for that 13th roster spot. Sign Ilgauskas, Gooden, A big vet from somewhere and show that it isn’t about money.
If they sign someone up off the d-league for cheap. Everyone’s fears are confirmed that the FO is more concerned with saving money then winning a championship.
Someone, somewhere, and fast better start kissing D-will’s butt before this turns into a nasty situation.
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One more comment.
Locke tweeted the starting roster for tonights game.
D-WILL, Matthews, AK, Milsap, Boozer.
He’s also saying the jazz cleared all this “cap room” so they can either resign boozer next season or do a sign and trade. Horse poop.
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They'll resign him.
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I think
a sign and trade with boozer next season will net the jazz more then anything got offered this offseason. If this does happen and looks good next season…
the brewer move might not be so dumb. That being said, i still would rather have him and take our chances next year.
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They'll Sign Some FA Veteran or Someone Off The Waiver Wire
Under the current CBA the league office will pay anything over the amount of a 2-year veteran’s minimum salary towards a veteran player who is picked up under a one-year, 10-day, or rest-of-season contract. Further, only the salary of a 2-year veteran is counted towards salary cap figures. This means they can pick up a veteran player, sign him for the pro-rated vet max, but it will only cost about $30,000 in salary ($60,000ish including tax) over the last 27 or 28 games of the season. It would almost certainly cost more to bring up a rookie from the D-League.
Cross your fingers that Sacramento buys out Larry Hughes! Ugh.
Good info Kris247- once again proving you are the salary expert. Comment more often with news like that.
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