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The Downbeat - 22 February 2010 - #171 - The Good Hangover Edition

  We know that the team was not pleased with Ronnie B getting traded for a draft pick.  Deron in particular expressed frustration that there wasn't a move made to get better.  Does that become a motivator for them?

Do they have a mindset of "Fine, we'll just have to do things our damned selves?"

  No "While you were sleeping..." this morning.  One, it was so late that you already knew all of the scores anyway.  Two, you probably didn't sleep much after last night's win.  Three, I was on a high after the win but had an equally measurable crash (face on the keyboard).

Here's a quick hit of the losers; Spurs fall to the Pistons and the Hornets beat the Rockets.  That's a another game put between us and SA.  Boston couldn't complete the comeback over the Nuggets though and OKC doesn't look like they're ever going to lose again.

  I'm sorely disappointed that there's no picture of Boozer's put-back last night.  There has to be one somewhere, right?  Any good nicknames for that shot?

If it was still allowed, do you think you'd ever see the Jazz use a pick on a player straight out of high school again?  Stevenson and Miles are the two from the past decade.  Stevenson didn't work out really.  CJ looks at times like he's put things together and other times not so much. 

Unless he's a LeBron-type player, I don't think they ever would.  Seems to be a lot more time spent developing and investing in players.  Is it the talent jump?  They're used to dunking on high school kid and not all of them are seniors.  You're suppose to make that transition to the NBA?  I don't see the Jazz taking a flyer on another high school player given the previous picks.

  Monday poll,

Poll
Which was your favorite game?
Sunidate Gaines slays the King.
121 votes
Jazz come back from 25 down against the Blazers.
57 votes

178 votes | Poll has closed

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Even if the Jazz didn't win last night

I was happy they just didn’t fold. They could have so easily packed it in when they went down by 25. Although Boler likes to say it 100 times the last few games, earlier this year and last year, no way the Jazz win this game. That is the difference and why I think the Jazz have a chance to make some playoff waves this year. They now have a toughness that was nonexistent in the past.

by iidiot on Feb 22, 2010 10:08 AM MST reply actions  

What

does Fesenko have to do to get mentioned on The Downbeat?

;)

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by UtesFan89 on Feb 22, 2010 10:30 AM MST reply actions  

YEAH!

;)

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by bucimislover on Feb 22, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Fes

We all talked about getting over LA and Denver. I think Fes showed last night he is part of that. He seemed focused and ready to play. Hes smarter than everybody gives him credit for. He knows he can’t make a jump shot so he dunks. I hope he gets more time even if Memo, Paul or Booz get less.

by neds on Feb 22, 2010 10:36 AM MST reply actions  

first time this season

…that I genuinely felt affection for Boozer. He was WORKIN IT last night. I mean he wanted that win bad. Focused, determined, resilient, composed….everything you would want in a….gasp, dare I say it….leader.

He was not a monster on defense, nor was he very efficient on offense, but DAMN he went after those rebounds hard and bounced back in the face of adversity (Millsap fouling out, Okur absent, AK leaving the game).

by moneyman memo on Feb 22, 2010 11:27 AM MST reply actions  

Agreed

During a timeout, I noticed Boozer actively involved in motivating the rest of the team. I was surprised, and pleased. If he could become a leader and develop a team-first attitude, I’d forgive him for the last year and a half of drama. If he could prove that, I’d even consider supporting him coming back next year. However, it would be tough to tell if this change is just to get a new contract until next season.

As a side note, I feel like a good playoff push has NO chance without Deron or AK. I personally feel like we would be able to fill in for any other player. I hope AK heals and continues his awesomeness. I love it when any player on the Jazz is on fire, but no one can compare to Kirilenko’s all-around contributions.

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by Rog. on Feb 22, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I noticed that same thing from Boozer

Sometime in the late third/early fourth, Portland called a timeout after we had cut into the lead a little, and Boozer jogged back to the bench, high-fiving and talking to everybody (presumably saying encouraging things), while Deron and the others were just walking slowly and sadly, like the game had already been lost. Out of everyone on that team, Boozer was the one who never looked defeated last night, never gave up. I couldn’t believe my eyes. It’s been said by a few others (usually with a healthy dose of skepticism), but maybe Boozer really is this team’s leader. Between this game, some previous ones this season (including the Gaines Game), and his reaction to the Brewer trade (expressing sadness but focusing squarely on moving forward and getting a win), I’m starting to believe that’s the case.

What he’s done this season, from the opening tip to right now, has been totally admirable. He said some stupid stuff last winter and last summer, that’s for sure. But he has absorbed all the fans’ displeasure, sometimes expressed right to his face at home games, and has just moved on. He recovered from a slow start to the season and has played some fantastic basketball, didn’t gripe about not getting picked for the All-Star team (he just went out and proved he should have been there), hasn’t said anything dumb in quite a while, has shown more of a commitment to defense than ever before, didn’t miss a ridiculous amount of time with his injury, and has demonstrated leadership potential that few of us ever suspected he had. I’m not saying he’s been perfect or anything, but given the circumstances, he has really done a remarkable job this year.

by shandonfan on Feb 22, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

Great summary – couldn’t agree more about Booz. It is tough to get nasty things yelled at your face and written about nationally, yet continue to work hard and be positive. Give the guy some credit – he has really helped this team win some ballgames.

by moneyman memo on Feb 22, 2010 4:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I had both kinds of hangovers this morning. Smiley face.

1- I don’t know how bad it is, but let’s just agree that the greatest team vs. management moment was when the Cleveland Indians had to win the title in Major League. Lets just hope the Jazz aren’t unveiling a naked photo of Greg Miller one win at a time.

2- OKC and Denver giving us all we can handle.

8- To borrow from a fated Latin American goal, it has to be called “El Beso de Dios” -The kiss of God
“Honestly, I just got the rebound and tried to throw it over his hand. God kissed it in for me” -Carlos Boozer

4- Yes. If that guy was the best player, the Jazz would draft him straight out of high school. Only dumb people wouldn’t have drafted Lebron James. And for those of you who think that the Jazz blew not drafting Dominique Wilkins, you need to learn your history. Wilk refused to play in Utah and told everyone so. Jazz couldn’t draft him.

5- Cleveland game was more entertaining and ran a roller coaster of emotions. The Portland game, however, showed me more about the Jazz and their character right now.

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by clarkpojo on Feb 22, 2010 12:10 PM MST reply actions  

I was going to use Major League

But then I didn’t want everyone to think I was comparing that owner to ours.

by Basketball John on Feb 22, 2010 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree with many of the above posts

I did not think that the Jazz would win last night, their play in the first quarter wasn’t so hot (and getting in a hole when Roy was out looked bad on TV) — but they really stunk it up in the 2nd and first part of the 3rd. I’m proud of this team, and would have been fine if they lost by 5-8 points after being down by 25.

Boozer had one of his “good carlos” games, like he did in game 7 of the 1st round against Houston when he was getting every impossible offensive rebound (over Yao).

Kyle started to knock down shots, he and CJ had threes in the 4th — which was quite johnny come lately. But i’m glad that their shots fell when they did. Our wings really looked bad out there w/o Andrei and, of course, w/o Brewer (at least deflecting balls). The shooter heavy approach paid off in the end, but this game wasn’t won by our wings at all. That said, Roy hit a stupid three over Wes in OT, when Wes was defending him pretty okay.

I’m proud that there are so many good teams from our division this year. Previous seasons our division was less awesome, and the Jazz would win it without having to earn it — and be happy with a playoff spot. This year things are different. And hopefully, we’ll go into the playoffs with more fire.

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Feb 22, 2010 12:36 PM MST reply actions  

Jazz rankings

Espn has em at No. 3 and Nba.com has em at No. 1 and I disagree with both of them. The Jazz should be second behind the Lakers. The Cavs aren’t doing well but the Lakers are smoking and they destroyed us without Kobe.

by mcjazzman32 on Feb 22, 2010 12:40 PM MST reply actions  

i think the jazz will overtake the nuggets.

the jazz have now won 17 of the last 19. that is the best in basketball. that comeback came without some key players too. it was impressive.

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by wolfmanshowlforever on Feb 22, 2010 12:55 PM MST reply actions  

1. I really hope that’s the case. D-will looked a little shakey lastnight, some turnovers and sloppy passes. I really hope it wasjust an off night and not an attitude thing.

2. I just want to officially say it. Kevin Durant should win MVP. I’m a james fan but KD is just lights out right now and helping carry that young team. I’m actually really impressed they’ve come together like they’ve had and started to play like everyone expected. Good for them. Stay out of our way though. P.S. I hate calling you OKC, you should be the Sonics, somewhere Kemp and Payton die a little everytime they hear OKC.

8. I just want to call the shot “Suck it Camby!” After all the gay tip out offensive rebounds he had all game, plus a few monster blocked shots……..Boozer threw one up over Camby’s lanky arm and stuck his boot in his backside. So “Suck it Camby!”

4. If they have the talent kobe or lebron did….maybe. I like College players though. They come out more mature and a little less raw. I think it makes a huge difference. I felt that Maynor carried himself alot better than CJ ever has simply because of the College experience, despite them being the same age.

5. The Gaines story is just too amazing to pass up. I loved the comeback win lastnight but gaines being signed for a week and making that shot…… There should be a movie made about it. lol

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by ForTheLove on Feb 22, 2010 1:22 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t know. One was the narrow avoidance of a complete mental lapse while the Blazer win was an actual fight. I have to go with the Blazer game. The Cavs game was too much of a lucky save from a total meltdown. That’s a pretty big difference.

by JLondon78 on Feb 22, 2010 6:04 PM MST reply actions  

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