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I am going to get a lot of backlash for writing this post.  I already know that.  But it happened a year ago when I wrote a similar post in favor of none other than Carlos Boozer.  In support of Carlos Boozer.  I know...I was surprised too.  But I ask all Jazz fans to just please stop it.  Stop it with the CJ Miles hatred.  I have a lot to learn as a Jazz fan, because I have voiced my displeasure with Carlos Boozer all over the blogosphere and looking back, there were much better ways to go about talking about his play and importance, or in my case, replaceability on the Jazz.  But allow me to make a case that will hopefully allow all of us to become better Jazz fans and consumers, myself very much included.

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I was thinking about writing this post before CJ posted this on his twitter account.  Now it is just affirmed in my mind that something needs to be said.  We live in an age where we can convey information in a matter of seconds.  To further my point, I am currently getting minute by the minute updates on my twitter account, while having a live chat with an ESPN NBA analyst.  Even 18 months ago this would have been difficult, if not impossible.  Go read some Jazz fan blogs or "tweets" sometime and see for yourself.  They are, as a rule, negative 80% of the time.  Again, I am a perpetrator at times of this problem.  We are still devoid of a title and it's super frustrating, because this might not be our year either.  But we root for a team that has won 18 of 21 games and yet we feel slighted, or at least like this team isn't good enough.  We win 90-82 over someone, and you will read 10 blogs about how the Jazz offense has disappeared and they need to get their act together.  Korver has a monster game with 20 points and 5 three pointers, you can guarantee you will see Jazzfan comments that say Jerry Sloan is an idiot for not playing Korver enough.  Jazzfans always need a reason that the team isn't going to win the championship.  They always need a scapegoat.

In previous years the scapegoat has been Ronnie Brewer.  Or maybe Kevin O' Connor.  Or the Jazz's lack of interior defense.  Mehmet Okur, please step up to the scapegoat ring.  But lately, CJ miles is the scapegoat.  And it isn't fair or necessary.  Maybe there doesn't need to be so much fault-finding.  Don't get me wrong.  I am not calling for Jazz fans to become the Care Bears or anything.  One of the greatest things journalism, or in this case social media, has always done is allow for change to happen through appropriate criticism.  I strongly encourage Jazz fans to continue to voice their opinions.  Blog, comment, hiss and boo, but remember that there is a line that can be crossed and probably shouldn't be.

With twitter and facebook and NBA players and stars being more willing to connect with their general fans, our words can get to the core and be more than just vocal frustration.  I don't want to bring any more attention to the twittersation (that word will catch on soon) between CJ and this frustrated fan who directly told him that he "was sucking" and needed to focus on basketball more and not rap as much, but I feel I need to make a point.  Look at the last thing that fan told CJ.  She wrote that she felt bad and that she was just frustrated.  Regret.  Think about that.  Do you really want the players on your favorite teams to hear how much you disapprove of their play?  Would that lead to good things?

I'm not trying to be holier-than-thou, but think about why you write the critical things you do.  I would say that 80% of the reason is because you are emotional and frustrated with something about the Jazz.  That's fine and I completely understand.  I have written loads of posts right after being frustrated by a Jazz performance or lack thereof.  It's natural.  But I encourage you to think about a few things.  One of them being this: Why is everyone so down on CJ Miles in the first place? 

The guy is in the middle of a bad shooting slump.  I won't deny that.  But he isn't costing the team games right now.  He missed two critical free throws against Atlanta the other night.  That was bad.  But he has won a bunch of games for us recently.  To save my word count, I will refer you here for a more in depth look into what I mean.  CJ has grown into a better player.  Maybe he isn't the player we all wish he was, but he is improving and I think that's all you can ask for.  And I stress again: he isn't the reason that the Jazz have lost 3 games in the last 21.  And if the Jazz fall short of the title, CJ won't be the reason.

In closing, I would like to bring up one more thing: karma.  I believe in karma.  If you do good, good things will eventually happen to you.  There are obviously tons of arguments to be made against this theory, but this post isn't meant to discuss ethics and religion and life after death or anything of the sort.  But karma can act quickly.  When Derek Fisher weaseled his way out of Utah (yes, I believe he wanted out of Utah and manipulated the situation to his favor), Jazz fans were livid.  They said mean things about Derek Fisher.  They booed him incessantly when he played again at the ESA.  And Karma acted.  Is it a coincidence that the Jazz have suffered season ending losses to the Lakers the last two seasons?  Maybe.  And Karma got back at Derek Fisher by allowing him to win the title last year.  Oh wait.  What I mean to say, is that when the Lakers don't win the title this year, guess who is going to get most of the blame?  Yep.  And the Jazz organization will be rewarded at some point for their better than a class act move to allow Derek Fisher out of his contract.  I believe that reward will come sometime in June and will deal with ping pong balls.  If you are constantly negative, negative things will tend to hang around you.  Trust me.  I have seen this principle manifest in friends and coworkers.

It is almost always better to give people the benefit of the doubt.  Encourage as much as you belittle and most importantly, remember that we live in a time period when players might hear or read the things you say about them.  And it might hurt.  And I can promise you that a stack of cash doesn't always make below the belt criticism hurt any less.  And for the record, we're pulling for you CJ.  Keep at em.  And let's get that title we have all been waiting for.  Go Jazz.

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I am not even done reading this and I am jealous

I REALLY wanted to write something.. I tweeted to Amar that I have been working on a piece for a couple of weeks. I have defeded CJ on Twitter until my fingers have bled. I’ll comment on the post after I finish reading.

by prodigal punk on Feb 25, 2010 2:43 PM MST reply actions  

clarkpojo, you rule!

Very well written. In my and Amar’s Twittersation, earlier, I mentioned that because of Twitter I have a genuine emotional attachment to CJ that I don’t necessarily have with the rest of the team. I read every single Tweet he posted during the summer and was amazed at how much dedication he showed. He sent out a Tweet before and after every workout, shoot around, and tape session and he was doing those things non stop. He continues to be remarkably candid about his shortcomings and is THE most accessible of any of the Jazz players. Nine times out of ten he will reply back if you ask him something or make a comment to him on Twitter. I see Amar’s conversations with him all the time. These are all reasons I think of him almost like a younger brother. We have watched him struggle for 5 years now as a very young man in a knock down, drag out, no holds barred, man’s world and he is still trying to find his way in it.

I sport my CJ jersey with pride.

by prodigal punk on Feb 25, 2010 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Ok, I like the post

But I REALLY love the picture. Perfect!

Another thing, since we’re giving CJ lots of love today. He tries really hard to be a fan’s player. He rambles on twitter like your college roommate—and I say that in a good way. I get the feeling that if I ran into him at a party somewhere where he isn’t famous (say overseas), he’d still be fun to hang out with.

by chamont on Feb 25, 2010 3:12 PM MST reply actions  

1. thanks for scooping all of us

2. now that i think we have a number of ‘active’ posters, we need to co-ordinate our efforts a bit more. i was going to write about fan/player interaction via social media/networking . . . and the responsibility of both parties therein.

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Feb 25, 2010 3:15 PM MST reply actions  

Spot on!

I echo the sentiments, and appreciate the friendly reminder. You have made some great points, and hope we can all take this to heart!

Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it.
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by Rog. on Feb 25, 2010 3:27 PM MST reply actions  

I think alot of frustration

comes from the fact that he’s been on the team for so long now.

People just expect you to be at a certain level when you’ve been in the league that long. Coach is doing what should have been done last year, letting him play and learn the game.

It took trading Brewer to get to this situation where coach is willing to let him play through it.

Fes is in the same situation. He show flashes, just like CJ use to, and then racks up the DNPs.

Hopefully it doesn’t take a Memo trade to see Fes get a chance. I’d prefer to go with a Memo/Fes rotation.

"He is STUPID but he knows that he is STUPID and that almost makes him smart."

by LoWBlok on Feb 25, 2010 4:49 PM MST reply actions  

I guess,

I fail to see what the problem is. It’s not like we are attacking him because of some personal thing that has been blown up into some media feeding frenzy. It’s not like we are Tiger Woodsing him. He’s chosen a profession where he is in the public spot light, worse yet, he’s chosen a profession that has very passionante fans. It’s a positive and a negative. When a player does well, he is shown alot of love, more love than probably any other profession. I mean Doctors and Policeman aren’t getting twittered about how they kicked butt lastnight during that surgery or catching that criminal.

In CJ’s or ANY professional athletes case, you get both extremes. The crazy mad respect and love, and the frustrated vocal disappointment. It’s a double edged sword. As a fan, I love the Jazz just about as much as a first born son. My moods, sleeping, and eating habits are based around the franchises that I support. I truely think i believe I live and die by them. I’m sure many of us feel that way. So we are vocal. I don’t think we have to coddel him or any other athlete, they chose this life, they know that if they struggle people are going to be upset about it. As a fan who pays for tickets and merchandise which go to their paycheck, I feel I have that right. Just like I feel I have the right to complain about a Politician, Actor, or any other public figure.

That being said, I am not supporting attacking a person on twitter that way. However, if he doesn’t like it, he can delete his account. He is putting himself out there of his own accord. I will clap when he makes a good pass or when he drops a 3 pointer, but I will also heckle and boo when he misses clutch freethrows at the end of a game. I hope that he pulls out of his funk and can be successful, but until, then, we should be able to voice our frustration, just as much as we voice his success. My 2 cents.

For the Love of the Game

by ForTheLove on Feb 25, 2010 4:55 PM MST reply actions  

Agreed

clarkpojo – great post. You bring up a very important part of being a fan in this highly accessible world we live in now – civility. But my perspective is more in line with what forthelove nicely wrote above…I invest so much into this team (my time, my money, my emotions) that I feel the right to criticize as well as praise them as I wish. But like any other instance in being human, it is always important to exercise CIVILITY.

The human eye and mind always catches the extremes…that’s the basis for how journalism was built and how it continues to function today. That’s why we always see more negative stories reported on than positive ones, and more extreme events reported on than moderate events. It is just as easy for our reactions to behave in the same way…and that is what I think we are seeing more and more of with the social media.

Lastly, I have to say that criticism, whether constructive or destructive, is an important part of building character. That is no excuse for relentless and uncalled-for negativity, but there are times in life that you just need to be stripped down and re-evaluate your approach. CJ is facing adversity, and he can pass the test by bouncing back or building himself back up. I think all of us can agree that CJ has always lacked the mental resiliency to be an effective player. Sloan has pointed it out before in interviews explaining why he yanks him, and it is personified in CJ’s up-and-down performances from game to game. He misses a few jumpshots and his entire game suffers.

I truly believe this is an important phase of CJ’s evolution as an NBA player, and he is going to come out of this with the improved mental fortitude needed to be a better bball player and more importantly, a better person.

Chin up, CJ!

by moneyman memo on Feb 25, 2010 7:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

There is no need to be mean about it, but CJ needs criticism to grow. In one of my classes at university, a blind girl said the best thing anyone ever told her was to get over it. She said it hurt a ton at the time, but it was what she needed to hear to turn things around in her life. After overcoming that adversity, she began to enjoy life and turned her “weakness” into strengths.

Bashing and directly messaging him insults is obviously not the way to go, but you can’t baby the guy. It must be done civilly, but it must be done for him to grow. CJ lacks a lot of maturity. The only way he will mature out of the drafted out of high school stage of his life will be to face the criticisms he is taking and become a better, more focused, individual from it.

by Bobby Joness on Feb 26, 2010 7:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Disagreed

It’s true. No NBA player would have a job without the fans, and in that very real sense they "owe" us something. But as a fan, do you see yourself on the bench next to the players or in the front office signing their paychecks?

If in a post-loss interview Deron said, "Wow, CJ really sucked tonight," there isn’t a one of us that wouldn’t call him a prick for doing so or worse. Yeah, we fans are going to feel frustrated and disappointed and angry if CJ misses a game winning free throw after going 0-12 on the night, but there isn’t one of us that could possibly feel worse than CJ would (or has). The point is that the failure is "ours," "the team’s," no just CJ’s. So do we "symbolically" turn our backs to him in the locker room or build him up so he can step into the next big shot with confidence. It’s hard enough playing your formative years in the NBA thinking on every shot, "if I miss this coach Sloan will pull me," but to have your fans, your "teammates at large," abandon you when you are most vulnerable is worse.

Now I’ll be the first person to call CJ out for taking a three with a guy in his face with 17 seconds left on the shot clock. It’s happened too many times and it looks awkward in the Jazz offense. But you know what, he can fix that. Pointing out that he’s missing free throws and good looks isn’t constructive and isn’t news to him. Do grown men need to be coddled? No. Do professional athletes need to maintain and protect their confidence? Duh.

Players need swagger. They need to want the ball in their hands. They need to believe they could scale Mt. Everest in their warm ups if they had to. Three years ago when the Cavs made the Eastern Conference Finals, rookie Daniel Gibson, 2nd round draft pick, and owner of a 4.6 point scoring average during the regular season, went off. He scored 21 points in game four against the Pistons and 31 in game 6, 19 coming in the 4th quarter. His performance clinched the series sending the Cavs to the NBA finals. When interviewed he credited Lebron’s unconditional confidence in him.

""It means the world to have a guy like Lebron showing so much confidence in you. It makes you have that much more confidence. Everything is relaxed, because you know if you miss the shot, he’s going to come right back to you and tell you to make the next one. The first day I met him, he really embraced me as a person. Then when we got on the floor, he was continually telling me to shoot it."

Okay, so maybe we wouldn’t be talking about this if CJ had more mental resilience. But we aren’t going to help CJ develop mental toughness by magnifying and rebroadcasting his failures. Trust me, if you’ve got stage fright, having the guy in the stall next to you say, "Dude, what’s the matter can’t you tinkle?" is not going to jump start your urinary tract. Now, I’m not saying we stick our heads in the sand and ignore CJ’s shortcomings. I just think we don’t treat him like he stole our parking space either.

The ESA is not the Coliseum and our players aren’t unknown gladiators whose value we callously and recklessly measure by the turning of our thumbs. We’ve got to feel connected to all the players, not just those wearing number 8.

Sure the players need us, but after 20 years of Jazz fanaticism I’m pretty sure I need them to.

by Alexandria VA on Feb 25, 2010 11:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks clark

For, as usual, being able to say it far more eloquently than I could have done

Chin up, Doe!

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by TazzJazzFan on Feb 25, 2010 7:17 PM MST reply actions  

You know, I'm not the biggest CJ fan in the world

But seriously — sending him Tweets telling him how much he sucked? I can’t fathom doing it.

I’ll rant and rave when he jacks up crappy shots. I’ll even name my CJ Theory after him.

But I love what you say, clark, about pulling for CJ. That’s what it’s really about, isn’t it? Don’t we want him to do well? Shouldn’t we look for progress, talk about it positively when it happens, and temper disappointment with acknowledgement that we like the dude and want him and the team to do well?

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Feb 26, 2010 12:32 AM MST reply actions  

+1

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by UtesFan89 on Feb 26, 2010 8:32 AM MST up reply actions  

CJ’s a big boy with a lot of money. He’ll be just fine. Also, there’s a reason athletes maintain a distance between themselves and their fans, fans are crazy. If he thinks it’s bad in Utah, he should try playing someplace like NY or Philly. To some extent every person on here has an unhealthy interest inthe Jazz. sometimes that boils over. But it’s that same passion that keeps us watching whenthe Jazz are down 25 to Blazers. So the tickets and the tv contracts are all funded by the passion of the fans and whenthats gone so is his check. Move along everyone.

by tyrantking on Feb 26, 2010 1:42 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Thanks for the post man.

While I have also done my share of hating on CJ, I’ve begun to see his situation in a new light. I’ve played with guys like him, and what they really need is the positive encouragement to build up their confidence. That’s not a weakness. That’s just the way they are.
After his recent slump I sent him this on Twitter.

@CJMiles34 Hey bro, I know you’re gettin a lot of hate your way an I dont want to add to that at all. Man, I know you got mad talent, and I believe in you. Right now it’s one of those tough stretches where you gotta keep pressing on. Meanwhile, adjust your game. You got mad passing skills. Utilize that right now. Also, when you drive it opens things up. Drive and dish, drive and dunk. I saw you do that last night and it was great. Theo is a big dude though, so it’s tough with that weakside help from a big man. That’s when you dish.
Other than that, just start small man. Build up your confidence. Keep working hard. I’m supporting you 100%. It’s all mental bro. You got this.

by i_am_pure_barbarian on Feb 26, 2010 8:17 AM MST reply actions  

I thought the title covered it rather well.

I’m sure the rest was relevant and well written as well.

Sorry, ADD attention span…. :~

CJ has come a long way, he has further to go,
our job is to enjoy the show while he grows.

Complete with moans and groans and outright screaming,
all in hopes to see you and us, gleaming!

(if I had a day job, or night job for that matter, I do not have any plans of leaving it).

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by RRR on Feb 26, 2010 4:12 PM MST reply actions  

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