The Downbeat - 8 March 2010 - #180 - The Terrible Case Of The Mondays Edition
by Basketball John on Mar 8, 2010 10:32 AM MST
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Lot's of delicious nuggets from Monson's conversation with Kevin O'Connor though it does just look like he copied his notes directly into his article. It ranges from those "Sons a bitches" Lakers to the Blazers offering a contract to Millsap, to other trade talk. The biggest part I think though was his talk about trading for a $20M player,
To illustrate the complexity of getting any substantive trade done, O'Connor said the Jazz attempted a few years ago to nail down a $20 million deal for a top-tier player. Both teams were game, but the financials didn't match up by a small margin and the trade was doomed.
I'm assuming he meant $20M/year player given that he states it was a top-tier player. That said, there's a lot of speculation as to who it could have been. I would think AK would have been part of the package given his contract. But given the deal, it might not be hard to narrow it down a bit. Any ideas?
There was a winner in the VoteDeron.com guess Deron's stats winner, but I haven't been able to track down the top three. The top person was very, very close to all of the stats though. Hopefully we'll have that this week. You know, because I'm sure everyone is anxious to find out.
20 games left in the regular season, give me your W/L prediction.
Now that Memo's had a couple of great games, what do we do with him? Obviously he's not going anywhere this season.
He's got two more years after this left on his deal. Is he going to be consistent for the rest of the season and for the next couple of years?
It's a hard place to be in because if you want to trade him, we need him to play well. But if he's playing well, why would you want to trade?
Recent success notwithstanding, I'm waiting for another 5-6 games before Memo is back.
SLC Dunk night out is still a go. I'm putting together the top nights that you voted on and will get a new list to vote on shortly.
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8) I like to be optimistic, so I’m going to say we go 17-3 with the losses coming @OKC (3/14), @LA Lakers (4/2), and one other (probably to a lottery team)
4) It’s so tough for me with Memo. When he’s on, he brings something that just about no other center in the NBA brings. But when he’s off… Also, I love the guy. He has said that he hopes to have his jersey in the rafters at the ESA someday, and I would be fine with that. But at the same time, it really feels like that missing piece is a big, athletic, defensive center.
If Boozer walks this summer, Memo is going to be better next year. And there will be more minutes for a guy like Fesenko if the Jazz bring him back.
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Maybe KG
He was available at about $22mil/year a few years ago
by murderousmalone on Mar 8, 2010 11:33 AM MST reply actions
1. It was probably a smaller market team who wasn’t doing well at the time. KG would be a good guess. One can only speculate what might of been. He was the biggest part of the championship team. That said, no one will ever know what would have happened had he gone to any other team.
3. Have to say I also feel good about the 17-3. One loss from either Bos or LA, one from a middle tier team, and one pull your hair out loss to a bottom tier (please, please do it against anyone Timberwolves!)
4. With Memo, I have the same feelings I did about Boozer (back when he was an All-Star), trade him while he is hot. I do not predict that he will continue performing consistently well for much longer (that is assuming he remains consistent the remainder of the year). We need to trade him while we can for a piece that will help the team. If the move, however, is only focusing on moving him for the sake of moving him (or getting picks), then we need to hold on and enjoy it while it lasts.
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If we’re going to lose to someone, we might as well lose to Minnesota, Golden State, and Indiana. :)
I have to say
15-5 a year ago would have been a rediculous guess, no matter what portion of the schedule you were trying to predict, but looking at the cupcakes in the last 20 games of the season and knowing this team can win on the road, come from behind or basically do whatever it takes to win, I think 15-5 or even 16-4 is a not too rediculous goal.
I’m gonna go with 15-5. We’re gonna lose at the lakers, hopefully go 3-1 on the upcoming road trip, lose to Boston at home (I have a feeling Boston’s gonna go on a tear soon), and lose two more games besides those.
1. Thats crazy. I wonder though who it could have been. KG sounds like a reasonable guess. T-mac maybe? Shaq? Man I just got goosebumps thinking about a lineup that consistented of KG and Boozer.
2. Boo
8. I’m going for a 16-4. We lose to the Suns once. We beat the Lakers and the Celtics. We slip up to 3 other teams that we would think would be a win. New Orleans? Houston? Washington?
4. I’ve always been behind Memo. I want him to finish his career here even if he ends up being a back up. I think his confidience is up and it stays up the rest of the year. I say he goes 16.0 pts, 8 rbs, .8 blocked shots, 40% from 3 point range the rest of the way.
5. Sounds fun.
For the Love of the Game
look at the way kg gets on his teammates
and sometimes even makes them cry. no way he and boozer could co-exist.
agree about memo. i’m all for keeping him. the last game really showed how good we are when he’s on. plus, memo is just so darn likeable.
one other thing
i really like the way how memo works on different aspects of his game. so the pump fake/dribble/drive thing isn’t always successful, but his post moves in general have gotten better. he’s also stepped up on D in a big way this year. i think it’s maybe just taken him some time assimilate all the different parts of basketball into his game, and that’s why he’s starting to play better lately.
I'm on the 16-4 train too.
And I bet it was KG.
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Redd. I’d love it if the Jazz could pick him up next offseason. I know he’s got a bum knee but he’s a legit SG and could be cheaper since he’s getting older.
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The man I want most
is Rip Hamilton. He’s the best player in the nba getting his shots without the ball and the Jazz are always the best team in the nba getting the rock to players off cuts and screens. That’s why I was hoping that if we were gonna trade Booze, we trade him to detroit for Rip.
I wish he was...
I wish he was and Detroit won rest of the games except ofcourse March 10th’s game against the Jazz.
Currently they are tied with NY 22-41.
by iLoveBooks100per on Mar 9, 2010 12:00 AM MST up reply actions
I just puked in my mouth thinking it was Redd
The players that are about $20 mill per are
T Mac (that’s who I bet it was)
Kobe
Jermaine O’Neal
Duncan
Shaq
Nowitzki
Paul Pierce
Ray Allen
My guess is T-Mac. He seems like the only one that we could get for that price. But Ray Allen isn’t considered “untouchable”.
This team can officially have a 3 quarters-season crisis now.
1- I loved that article. Most candid KOC has been in awhile. The unnamed $20 million player has to be somebody a team was willing to move or probably has been moved. So Kevin Garnett is a decent guess. I am thinking more along the lines of Jermaine O’neal. I think the Jazz would have been looking for a center a couple years ago and Oneal was available. If it was Garnett, Boozer would have been part of the trade, I can almost guarantee you that. KG would have changed the face of the franchise in a good way. O’neal, probably not so much.
2- I’m sure that I didn’t win, because I didn’t guess that he would shoot his worst field goal percentage in awhile.
8- I was looking at everyone’s predictions and rolling my eyes, because they were so optimistic. I appreciate optimism, but only so much. But then I looked at the schedule and even I see them sleepwalking into a 13-7 finish. I still think some people might be a little too optimistic, because you don’t expect the team to lose @Washington, for instance, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. I am going with 14-6 with a respectable 54 wins on the season.
4- I don’t think Memo is tradeable this offseason, but if anyone wants to keep Boozer around, trading Memo is a financial and basketball must. But realistically, Memo will be better if/when Boozer leaves and it will all work out. He’s just so likeable. Not really much sense in extending him when the Jazz did, but he is just such a likeable guy and at the time they thought Boozer was a goner, so it makes some sense.
5- Wish I could make it. Next season I will be there.
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