Suns Put The "Finish Him" Move On The Jazz After Killing The Nuggets, L 100-86
After destroying the Nuggets last night, the Suns looked like they were teleported instantaneously from their home court and continued the carnage against the Jazz.
It's like David Stern ripped my nightmares right from my head and put them center stage tonight at the ESA. Just about everything that could go wrong did. Horrible offense. Nobody outside of Memo showed up. Poor officiating. More horrid offense. Turnovers. The Suns actually playing defense.
The thin bench was a bigger factor than I thought it would be. It was magnified by the fact that the starters didn't play well. The Suns bench came in in the second quarter and ran up the score and the Suns weren't really threatened again. The Jazz did have a couple of spots where they got it to 13 but a couple of calls go against them, and a three later, the Suns are back up almost 20.
So while I try not to be overly pessimistic, this loss gives me a sinking feeling in my stomach and not just because of this game. The fact that we now won't have home court advantage against the Nuggets gives me little hope at advancing. I know that Denver is playing poorly right now as well but they've had our number this year and I think they'll pick it up for the playoffs.
Then, even if do somehow get past the Nuggets, there's LA looming. Harpring actually stated on the broadcast tonight that he thinks the Jazz are the only team that can take out the Lakers. Sheesh.
So to me, though I'll be cheering on the Jazz as hard as I can in the playoffs, tonight's loss signifies the end of the season for me. Maybe it's just the mood from tonight's game getting to me but the reality from this loss starts to set in. The Jazz had to get this win tonight to have a chance at advancing deep.
The silver lining for me is that Andrei said he will be back for the playoffs. I would love to have seen how our fate would have been different if we had had him over the last month. I'm excited for his return more than anything.
So let's hope for an inspired run against Denver that starts Saturday Sunday.
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I had lots of time
Didn’t want to put it off
by Basketball John on Apr 14, 2010 11:17 PM MDT up reply actions
anybody here what memo said postgame?
said he was hurting but that this was the biggest game of the year and he had to play. sounded like a bit of a dig at boozer and andrei.
denver isn’t playing well, but it’s a bad, bad matchup. be nice to knock those jackoffs out of the playoffs. here’s hoping!
by Brigadier Pudding on Apr 15, 2010 12:25 AM MDT reply actions
Huge choke.
We weren’t even in the game. Thats the disappointing part. If it was a tight game that we lost, I would have said “Well no AK, no Boozer”. But seriously guys.
Well, the bright side is I hate Denver, and I hate the Lakers. Go get em.
I honestly hope Phoenix can pull it off if we don't make it
and I can’t wait till Oklahoma City crashes LA’s party.
Mmmph rrgh prrmf! - someone with his mouth gagged
Go Jazz! Go Hogs! GO BILLS!
I hate to blame the referees but
they lost control of the players and the crowd early on and could never recover to call a fair game. Very hostile crowd there. I even saw some Suns fans almost get kicked out for allegedly flipping off some Jazz fans that were a few rows up.
For The Love!!
I hate to as well
The last two games were really tough to watch for me. I’ve been pro-refs all year, and they’ve done a great job overall.
Last night they seemed to want to show that they weren’t intimidated by the ESA crowd. But instead, they just looked like temperamental bullies. I’ve yelled at officials more over the past two games than I have all year. Hopefully it isn’t a sign of what’s to come… Ugh.
how many times have we started games down 10?
Isn’t that the kind of thing a coach would identify as a major problem and try to prevent? If I were Sloan and we got down 10 in the first 8 minutes – AGAIN – I’d call a timeout and go berserk on the starters.
Oh well. Denver’s a nice place, and vulnerable team.
I'll make it coach.
How do I clean vomit off my HDTV?
How could Kirilenko and Boozer not even suit up for this game? Couldn’t they have played for even a few minutes? This game was more important than any single playoff game. Had we won we would have had Portland, San Antonio, and Dallas in our bracket, teams that we have owned this year. Instead, we get Denver, OKC, and the Lakers, teams that we basically can’t beat. So, yeah, the season is now over, and those two looked real comfortable chewing gum in their seats. I mean, if you’re hurt, at least wince or something. Otherwise put on a uniform, suck it up, and play! I am disgusted by our forwards today, Also, Millsap, Matthews, Price, and Korver all looked like dogs last night. The only silver lining, the smallest silver lining I have ever seen, was that Othyus Jeffers seemed as quick as a Phoenix Sun. He also seemed like he actually ate a meal recently, as he was able to sprint and jump, unlike the rest of the team. Lastly, props to Sloan and the coaching staff for devising that nasty zone defense. Apparently the idea was to leave the Suns so wide open that they became confused as to why they weren’t being guarded. That was supposed to disturb their rhythm. But instead, they just made the wide open shots. Imagine that. And we wonder why he hasn’t won COY? Because he REFUSES to adapt to in-game situations. Nice second half of the season Jazz. We’ll always remember what a great team you were in February!
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 15, 2010 8:16 AM MDT reply actions
Re: Zone Defense
The only reason I can think of as to why Sloan kept going to the zone was to try to protect our bigs from foul trouble. But really, our interior offense was so weak, it probably wasn’t worth it. Speaking of offense, it was offensive. I can’t remember a time more Jazz plays broke down and resulted in a wing player driving to the hoop with reckless abandon. And AK wasn’t even playing!
Before everyone jumps on the bash Sloan parade
Realize that we shot 37.8% from the field, with 19 turnovers and 10 shots that were blocked! I don’t care who you are, that’s not going to win many if any games. When your “STAR” player shoots 5-17 (29.4%) and has 5 turnovers it doesn’t matter if the coach is calling timeout after every basket, you ain’t winning. I would like to see how many coaches could win that game last night with our roster? None come to mind off the top of my head. Phil Jackson could maybe do something but hell he is taking his team into the playoffs with a 4-6 record. So he doesn’t have it all figured out. Mike Brown of the Cavs, can we even call that guy a coach? Lebron draws up all the offensive plays on that team, while he stands by with the deer in the headlights look.
This loss is squarely on the players. Millsap proved he is NOT Carlos Boozer. Williams showed us he still has a lot to learn. We really miss AK47 and the Jazz need to have some heart. They don’t have the heart of a champion.
It was very frustrating to watch that game with so much on the line, but Phoenix was by far the better team last night.
Sundays game...
…is now back on Saturday.
I hate to call out Boozer and AK. I don’t know how hurt they are. None of us do. BUT if they had played, we had won, and we played Portland at home…we would probably have been needing them a lot less in this first playoff round and we would be in a better position for the whole thing.
by yougottaloveitbaby on Apr 15, 2010 9:02 AM MDT reply actions
Do you think???
That this was Boozer’s last chance to really stick it to the Jazz? He already has a date with Miami to go and sign and so he figured well I’ll give the Jazz the middle finger on my way out.
Well here is my middle finger to Booze. ,l,,
Sloan is not to blame
The players (outside of Memo) showed absolutely no heart last night.
Boozer wouldn’t have made any difference — if anything Amar’e would have had even more points, as he’s owned Boozer all season long. He probably would have scored more than Millsap did, but I really think the extra points given up would have been a wash.
Andrei definitely would have made a difference, but I can’t fault him for not playing because he has experienced (many times) what happens when you try to come back to early from an injury.
To take a page out of Sloan’s book, “We were out there feeling sorry for ourselves.” That’s exactly what it looked like to me. Poor poor us, because Boozer and AK are out. Poor us because we played last night. If I performed my job with the lack of interest and total apathy that the Jazz played with last night, I’d be standing in line at the unemployment office.
"The players showed absolutely no heart"
Isn’t Sloan’s job essentially to prevent this from happening? He looked as tired and resigned as any of our players. Regarding your last sentence, Sloan performed his job with a “lack of interest and total apathy” last night.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 15, 2010 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
While that wasn't a good note to end on...
I don’t think it’s fair to mail in the playoffs because of one game. I understand that it was a horrible game, but it was just one game. You can’t always control whether the shots drop, and which players are hurt, but I hope the Jazz players can learn one thing…
Quit complaining to the refs.
I feel like the only effect that can have, is to make the refs more annoyed at you, thus giving you less calls in the future. Plus, while you are busy complaining/staring down the ref, the player you should be guarding is busy getting a wide open look on offense.
I know there are plenty of other reasons the Jazz lost that have already been discussed, so I figured I’d just throw this observation out there…
Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it.
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It was not JUST one game.
It was a freaking catastrophe that destroyed the hard work of dozens of games. It was a flashback to the Boozer that we all hate and loathe. It was evidence to the rest of the league that the Jazz fold in clutch games, and are not a real threat. It might as well have been the only game of the season.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 15, 2010 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Well...
Just look at the Lakers…they “folded” down the stretch, but since they won “unimportant” games earlier in the season, their late season losses didn’t matter. I’d be more upset losing to the Timberwolves at home earlier in the season with a healthy roster, over losing to the Suns on a back-to-back without two of our best players…
I’m not overlooking the importance of momentum or home-court advantage heading into the playoffs, but that one loss doesn’t change the fact that we have to win four games against a good team.
Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it.
-Unknown
by Rog. on Apr 15, 2010 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hard to compare
The Lakers weren’t in a position in which one game decided so much. Because they had that cushion from those “unimportant” games. We were not in a position to rest our starters and try out new personnel schemes. I know our record is cumulative, but that doesn’t change the fact that certain games are much more important than others, because of timing. We had to win THIS game, and we didn’t.
And it DOES change the fact that we have to win four games against a good team, because now at least one of those must come in Denver, who is 34-7 at home. That’s a huge difference.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 15, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Rec'd Rog.
Well said and tempermentally sound posting, dude.
Mmmph rrgh prrmf! - someone with his mouth gagged
Go Jazz! Go Hogs! GO BILLS!
Why defend Sloan?
Can anyone remember a shrewd game-time coaching decision that has led, or contributed, to a Jazz win?
Look, Sloan is great, probably the best, at whatever Sloan does. But I saw no evidence of “coaching” happening last night.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 15, 2010 9:28 AM MDT reply actions
Oh, I dunno...
How about sending in a D-League call up for the final 5 seconds of a game where the outcome of that single play is the difference between a win or a loss? That was ballsy.
Say whatever you want about Sloan, but no coach in the world could have won last night with the effort our players gave.
That was desperation, not coaching.
Gaines was in because DWill had sprained his wrist, not because of some shrewd decision by Sloan. We got lucky. True, the players lost the Phoenix game in every aspect. My point is that Sloan looked OK with that and seemed determined not to interfere.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 15, 2010 9:47 AM MDT reply actions
Now you're just being ridiculous...
First of all, we already had a backup PG in for D-Will — Price. Why put a second backup PG on the floor?
Second of all, why not put in Matthews, who at least had some NBA game experience?
It was absolutely a shrewd, and very gutsy, coaching decision. And if you honestly think that Sloan has not made any coaching decisions that have contributed or led to a Jazz win, you’ve gotta be out of your damn mind.
No offense.
How was it gutsy to put in Gaines?
5 seconds left, down by two. Any coach puts in shooters here. What, was Sloan gonna put Fes out there to take a three? I don’t remember if Matthews was on the court or not, should’ve been.
Anyway, I don’t want to argue about it anymore. If you think Sloan was Coach of the Year material last night, fine. I guess I’m out of my damn mind. He looked really engaged and tough. And had those guys motivated and ready. It was gutsy, praiseworthy coaching. It was a perfect gameplan and Sloan was simply genius. It was just that the players completely forgot how to drive to the basket or defend shooters. Sure we lost badly, but at least Sloan totally outcoached Alvin Gentry!
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 15, 2010 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
I am just as upset about the game as anyone, but let me point out
we lost to the hottest team in the league when we were missing two starters. Phoenix can blown anyone out of the gym on any given night. Or they can give back 20pt leads. Thats who they are. And also, you can’t blame people for being hurt. And AK has played hurt enough times, that if he didn’t play he is no where near playing. And why would Boozer sit out a game unless he had to that now puts him up against interior D’s that shut him down, instead of D’s that he dominates?
This is our team… we are a streaky (like the Suns) offensive team who’s best interior defender is an injury prone small forward. That is what we have to deal with in the off season. Now is just time to play.
The truth is, if you have to really on match ups in the post-season you aren’t a true contender. That game sucked, but it’s just one game. The rest of the off-season we are going to see if we need a true overhaul on this team or not.
I'm fully on the Suns for NBA Champions bandwagon. They are playing so well right now.
If it can’t be us I want OKC or Phoenix.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
How hurt can they be...
…if they both claim to be ready for the next game? Kobe’s played for years, it seems, with a broken finger on his shooting hand. Memo managed to be pretty productive despite achilles tendinitis. Boozer and Kirilenko looked quite comfortable though, and neither winced or limped when they walked. What is the problem here?
Ronnie Price was right: We found out who the tougher team was.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 15, 2010 10:52 AM MDT reply actions
I believe AK plays hurt.
Thats what worries me. If he sat this out, he is still far from 100%.. Actually, yeah, you are right about Boozer, just playing the first minutes in pain, would have been the least a “leader” could have done.
Sure, but
Kirilenko at 50% is still better than CJ Miles at 100%.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 15, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
a few thoughts on last nights game
This was the worst Jazz game I can ever remember watching. I was at the game and it seemed to me that the fans at ESA were more worried about heckling the Suns fans that were there rather than cheer on the Jazz. Oh and booing the refs. That was pointless. What you think the refs are going to turn around, look at you and say “By golly, random fan, you’re right. The NBA does want me to give this game to the Suns but since we’re at your place, I’ll make sure Amare Stoudamire gets kicked out.”? No, of course they’re not going to do that! Here are a few things I noticed on the court:
1) Memo had 14 or 16 points in the 1st quarter, 18 by halftime and 21 by the end of the game. It was he who kept us within 5 at the end of the 1st so why stop feeding him the ball? If he’s the only one making shots, GIVE HIM THE DAMN BALL!!!!
2) Too many perimeter shots and when the Jazz finally took the ball inside the paint, they looked like whimpering dogs who were about to be neutered. D-Will was the only Jazz player who took it in hard and actually drew the foul.
3) CJ Miles was his old self, hucking up stupid shots all game.
4) Why in the world did Jerry only play Suniata Gaines in the last 4 min of the game? If the starters arent playing well and the team is down 20 to start the 4th, why not put in Gaines and Jeffers then? Both played hard and yes I know that it was against the Suns bench but other than Okur, Gaines and Jeffers were the only players with a positive point differential last night.
5) Utah loves you Larry. Too bad the players forgot to play for him. Let’s go get the Nuggets in the playoffs.
For The Love!!
Not really a "horrible" game defensively either
The Suns average 110 points per game and we held them to 10 under that. Once again, it was their defense that killed us.
For The Love!!
Bad calls as well
Everytime we drove to the hoop aggressively the ball got ripped I have a hard time believing none of those were Suns fouls
by Davey Boi Sully on Apr 15, 2010 7:33 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree much
I had a bad sinking feeling as well, we had a good shot at being real contenders this year but then “tip off” happened lol. I have a distant feeling of doom and its called the Nuggets. Now its an uphill battle all the way Boozer and Ak47 better get their ass out there and give it all they got hurt or not!
by Davey Boi Sully on Apr 15, 2010 7:31 PM MDT reply actions
Why isn't Sundiata Gaines the backup PG yet?
And if players are sucking, why does Sloan leave them in? Also, Fesenko is so much better than Koufos it’s not even funny. He should have gotten way more playing time. Ok, he had a sore throat… That was like 3 weeks ago! Why does Sloan still care? Boozer is out for like 45 games last season, comes back and gets his starting job right away. What does he have against Fess? At least FESS might have been able to play some defense on Amare..I think a Deron, Gaines, Matthews( Jeffers?), Okur, Fess lineup would have been way better than whatever Sloan put out on the floor last night. At least those players try during the games.
One last point: Good thing Korver finally got that record so he can relax and hit some threes again. His shooting has been awful the last few games and I know its because of that stupid record.
The Orioles Suck!
Kill CJ Miles!
Play FESS More!!!
Okur Less!!!!!
I love men!
HEH!
You have to leave sucky players in when everyone sucks
The coach can’t bench everyone. Someone has to be put on the floor.
And I think we all know what Sloan has against Fess. Won’t work hard in practice, shows up late, won’t pay attention in timeouts, etc., etc. Repeat after me: It’s Fess’s fault he doesn’t play, not Sloan’s.
Fess did play. Koof and Fess were in at the same time in the 2nd quarter. They were terrible.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

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