Memo done for the season . . .
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Apr 18, 2010 2:02 PM MDT
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Mehmet Okur is done for the season, and even for the world championships. This really sucks. Especially since the guys on the roster who are physically the most sensible people to replace his efforts are the least likely individuals to a) be ready for playoff minutes, and b) to actually get playing time.Worse still, on the individual level, is the fact that I'm going to get end this blogging season sounding like a broken record. I'm already the "crazy Fes guy" in Jazz circles. A guy on twitter even (jokingly, I hope) ask if I was his girlfriend.
What's the point of drafting bigs if you never let them play enough - so that when something bad like this happens, they could actually be even a marginal return on the initial investment?
Be sure to pour out a little Dimes for Memo, Jazz fans. Pour out some for the Jazz season, as logically -- this is something our team can't overcome.
[Note by Basketball John, 04/18/10 2:30 PM MDT ] I'm appending BC7's FanPost to this
BC7,
The reports are starting to trickle out now from Denver that Mehmet Okur has ruptured his achilles tendon and will be out 6-9 months. Such a devastating injury both personally for Okur, and for the Jazz as a team.This is the same injury that soccer player David Beckham suffered last year which many were calling a career threatening injury.
According to reports that I read Memo had a numbing injection in his achilles before Game 1 last night. As much as we as fans love to see players try to tough it out and play through injuries, this does go to show that it always isn't the smartest move.
Memo is headed back to SLC today and will undergo surgery in the next day or so.
What does this do for Fesenko, and the Koof? Not only will they probably need to step up their games against Denver, but one of them potentially will be the starting center for the first few months of next season. Hopefully a silver lining out of all this will be how hard they work this summer to come back as a difference maker next year.
Here's to the team rallying around Memo's injury and stepping up their game in the playoffs!
I'm adding this tweet from Siler,
A lot about this sucks but even more so because Memo stated himself that had this not been the playoffs, he would have been resting it for a few weeks. Yet he came back for the Phoenix game and was the only one that played well in a losing cause.
He really was putting his long-term health on the line for the team. I don't know what more you can ask from a player/teammate.
My medical expertise is zero, but knowing a couple of people that have ruptured their Achilles, they're walking again in about 9 months but both have told me it's been well over a year before they were really pain free and comfortable again.
Let's hope Money can recover fully from this.
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I hope so too, but more than that
I hope that he can return to a normal life, and not be some pain-filled, old limping guy like Jeff turned out to be. He’s gotta be off his feet for a loo-oong time this summer. Which is going to kill him.
We should find a way to wish him well as a group — our community is pretty strong. I think he would appreciate it.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Apr 18, 2010 2:16 PM MDT reply actions
absolutely
100% agree. I don’t even wish career ending injuries on my most hated players. When it happens to a genuinely good guy, it just breaks your heart. Hope there is no long term damage, basketball or no basketball.
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But I’m thinking Dimes is a little hard to find in SLC. Unless you knock on Memo’s door, I guess. :)
Good edits!
Hooray for blogging teamwork!
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Apr 18, 2010 2:40 PM MDT reply actions
This Sucks
It feels like on The Dark Knight when Bruce (Jerry) says “Today is the day you get to say I told you so” and Alfred (Us) says “Today, I don’t want to.” I too have been telling everyone I can that we needed to develop our bigs this year, yet I feel no desire to gloat and feel nothing but sorrow for Memo.
Please Memo, get well. I want you here for the rest of your career, crappy defense and all.
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Terrible, terrible injury
I feel really bad for Memo and I look forward to when he’ll be able to return next season.
Does this mean now that the Jazz are going to try and draft a center with the #9 pick? Cole Aldrich, here we come…
"We got to change something bc what we doing ain't working right now!" - DWill
Hassan Whiteside>>>>>>>>>>>Cole Aldrich
The Orioles Suck!
Kill CJ Miles!
Play FESS More!!!
Okur Less!!!!!
I love men!
HEH!
by bucimislover on Apr 18, 2010 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions
i feel bad for us/our chances, but mostly i just feel bad for memo
now i just hope he can return healthy, whenever that may be.
Memo!
People questioned your heart and your athletic ability as you got older in Utah. I think no one can get on your case now. This kind of dedication and heart is rare. We support you and we thank you for giving 150%! Now get better as quickly as you can! Best of Luck!
MEMO IS MONEY!
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MonSTARZ forever!
by ForTheLove on Apr 18, 2010 6:31 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Get well Memo
Memo is a stud. My respect for him has increased 10 fold in the last week. He was all about the TEAM and wanting the team to succeed. You couldn’t ask for a better teammate. I never want to hear again that Memo is soft. Far from it.
I couldn't agree more.
You risked it to give us a chance to advance. Memo, I’ll remember that, mark my words.
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can amar/clark/rxmike or anyone else
weigh in on whether the painkilling shot contributed in any way to the injury?
In my experience no
Not as a doctor, but as someone that has dodgy joints and has played on painkillers.
Happy for a doc to prove me wrong
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i just spent much of the last two weeks during my first year of med school learning about pain killers and their many side effects. i haven’t heard anything about pain killers exacerbating pre-existing injuries. but take that info as you will, i’m not a doctor yet. i just wonder if the original injury was evaluated properly… because if it wasn’t this is just tragic. memo had a good 3-4 years left, and now if he returns in any capacity more than role player off the bench i’ll be surprised. it hurts to see such a good guy suffer an experience like this.
by bigdog'sshades on Apr 18, 2010 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Of course it did
Pain is a message from the body to the brain that something is not right. By blocking that message, Okur made his injuries worse.
Baseball managers I’ve noticed really take the minor injuries seriously. If a pitcher complains of elbow pain, they are put on the 15 day DL no questions asked. Same with just a “tight” hamstring.
This guy or group has been a problem for a while.
It seems to be a coordinated effort. We can put a 24-hour waiting period on posting for new signups but I don’t like doing it because it hampers everyone else. Maybe a day isn’t too long to wait.
by Basketball John on Apr 18, 2010 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions
maybe a filter that bans that particular url that appears in all their posts
would do the trick (like those filters that filter out bad words on other forums/sites)
Can things get any worse?
Well at least Fesenko can finally show what he’s got.
The Orioles Suck!
Kill CJ Miles!
Play FESS More!!!
Okur Less!!!!!
I love men!
HEH!
The whole of the Jazz's medical staff probably needs to go.
This is something I have wondered about for a while, but quite frankly, I have no medical training or knowledge so I have kept my mouth shut. But seriously, when a team has injury after injury year after year, I don’t think they are getting the right treatments/advice. And now this. Giving the green light for a numbing agent on Okur’s tendon, then having him rupture it, possibly ruining his career… come on, that is grounds for dismissal.
All the best Memo… hears to hoping you get back to 100%.
this is essentially what i was asking above
could the numbing shot have masked some warning signs?
i’m not looking for someone to blame, just curious.
i don't think it's a problem with the medical staff
the “tough” guys on the team, e.g. sap and omsw, played 82 games.
deron’s sprained ankle last season was thanks to derrick rose’s foot.
boozer (and i hate to say it AK) are just injury prone.
memo has said he’s had back problems since he was a teen.
etc. etc.
Are you freakin kidding me?
Gary Briggs is one of the BEST trainers in the NBA. He’ s been around for 20 years. Athletes put their careers on the line ALL the time against medical advice. Brett favre getting a concussion, sitting out a play, and then coming back in and throwing a touchdown. Donovan Mcnabb breaking his ankle, plays the whole game and throws for 300+ yards and multiple touchdowns. Hell, Michael Jordan playing with a 104 fever and slaying everyone all over the court.
You can’t blame the medical staff for the injuries that athletes get, they play contact sports, and the athletes who are driven to win, CONSTANTLY put their bodies on the line when they are injured an in pain.
Blaming the medical staff is rediculioius. Okur knew what he was doing, He lpayed his guts out on Weds night and did very well despite his tendon, and i’m sure that also encouraged him to push it a little harder because of it.
From what i’ve read, the numbing agent didn’t rupture or cause the damage. I’m guessing it’s just like when you give a guy cortisone (sp?) shots and other things of that nature to help them play through the pain.
Gary Briggs who is the lead medical trainer is the bomb though.
“The Long Beach, Calif. native has a number of accolades to support his ability as a medical professional. In 18 seasons while with the Cleveland Cavaliers and the past nine in Utah, he has earned the 1999 Athletic Trainer of the Year award, and was selected as the chairman for the National Basketball Athletic Trainers Association for the 1993-94 and 1994-95 seasons. In 2001, Briggs was inducted into the Ohio Athletic Trainers’ Association Hall of Fame. He was also the trainer for the 1995 and 1997 NBA All-Star games.”
His reputation speaks for himself.
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by ForTheLove on Apr 19, 2010 1:36 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am frustrated and could be way off base, absolutely.
Sports injuries happen through no ones fault. Personally, I have been through surgeries, tendinitis, stitches, cortisone, … the works, through years of sports. As an athlete (amateur as it may be), I know how it is. And I know I have worsened injuries through coaches giving me the green light, and through my own excitement and adrenalin.
So what I was looking for was kind of what you provided: some proof that this wasn’t a god-awful decision by someone. Because, honestly (Boozer aside) most athletes need to be protected from themselves.
Hopefully Okur reads some of the posting by fans, and knows everyone feels for him.
the basketball gods have it in for the jazz
why?!?!? why us?
love you memo. believed in you the whole season
Crazy Fes guy?
You don’t get that title away from me buddy.
I own a Fes jersey.
I have game-worn Fes armbands.
Fes tossed me a piece of gum during Game 1 from the team stash.
My girlfriend made him a poster which said “Fes – Stop Jackpotting around with my heart.” He laughed.
At this point, Fes knows me on sight. As long as I’m around you will never be the Crazy Fes guy.
Frankly, the fact that I want the title this much kind of proves my point.
Nuggets in danger of letdown
So how could Utah possibly beat Denver now??? Well, Denver beat the Jazz in Utah earlier this year without Billups or Anthony, which is more starpower than Kirilenko/Okur. If Utah plays similar offense to Game 1, and the Nuggets don’t go on a historic hot stretch to seize that game, suddenly Game 1 is very competitive. Hard to imagine Carmelo’s gonna go 18-25 ever again.
Believe me, it’s bleak, but I have manufactured this nugget of optimism to soothe my pain.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 19, 2010 8:40 AM MDT reply actions
Don't underestimate Anthony
It likely will happen again, if Carmelo realizes it has to happen for them to power out a win.
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Go Jazz! Go Hogs! GO BILLS!
I don’t see Melo shooting 72% on field goals for very long. He shot 45.8% for the season, same as Mehmet Okur.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 19, 2010 9:59 AM MDT reply actions
Dangit, Memo
I feel for ya, dude. Hope you can make it back from this sometime, anytime.
Now, on to what’s left…
Don’t forget how long the Jazz were in it without Okur. No Memo isn’t the end for the Jazz. Gotta get more out of the wings, for sure, especially defensively, but other than Melo Utah didn’t lose that game by any means.
The Jazz came to play. They won’t go quietly into the summer sun. A team effort, for 48 will win this series. Denver is a collection of one-on-one specialists, and as such can be beaten by a team playing team all.
ditto ditto ditto
Mostly feeling sad for Memo.
(Also thinking it’s time to clean house through trades and start to rebuild.)
I'll make it coach.
Sad this happened. Always liked Okur ... hope he battles back next year!
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