The Downbeat - 21 April 2010 - #212 - The Bionic Edition
by Basketball John on Apr 21, 2010 10:19 AM MDT
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Players aren't allowed to look ahead but we can. There's a long ways to go until the second round but I was watching the Thunder/Lakers game last night and OKC was this close to pulling one out in LA.
The one thing I wish the Jazz could emulate from OKC, besides having a Durant, is their confidence against LA. They don't have that mental wall that the Jazz have. The Thunder took it right at them all night and didn't back down. You could just tell from their demeanor that they weren't going to be inlfuenced. I mean, Durant was doing a dance in front of Jack Nicholson before the game.
A large part of me doesn't want to see the Lakers in the next round if we get that far. The other part of me doesn't want to see OKC either because if they've somehow knocked off LA, I can't imagine what their swagger would be like. That would be an upset bigger than Golden State over Dallas.'
We'll worry about who we face though if/when we get there.
Memo has a successful operation done on his Achilles. What amazes me is that he can start doing rehab on it in just a few weeks. I know he's not going to be running sprints and that it will start slow, it's just weird that it is healed enough by that time where he can start doing therapy, however small.
I guess it's good to keep him busy though. We don't need him laying around bored for a long time and then find out that Yeliz is expecting again. We all know how he plays when that happens.
Our other injured player, AK, had PRP (platelet rich plasma) therapy done on his calf. The details, according to Siler,
The therapy calls for Kirilenko to be injected in his injured calf with a concentrated amount of his own blood, which has been spun in a centrifuge to separate the platelet rich plasma, which is supposed to help accelerate healing.
At first I thought it sounded like blood doping but that's where they inject red blood cells to increase endurance and aerobic ability.
According to Siler, both Brandon Roy and Kenyon Martin both had this done. While it's possible that AK could return in the second round, having three of these on the same calf makes me wonder if he's just prone to them now. While I would kill to have him out there I don't know if I can take him going down again.
Friday still seems eons away.
We haven't talked about it, but it was clear that Miles stepped out of bounds before Melo fouled out. The Jazz were up one at that point and I'm surprised that this hasn't been talked about more. I thought he was getting pushed out which would have been a foul anyway. The guys at DenverStiffs were kind to point out the the reason the ref missed that was because he had his eyes closed,
I maintain that had the flash not gone off then the ref wouldn't have been blinded :).
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Last night's Lost was a let down
1. Didn’t see much of it, but the Lakers look awful. Kobe got blocked 5 times and had 6 turnovers; only 1 assist.
2. Memo says he’ll be at the game on Friday night. He’s a trooper.
8. This just came across Twitter from Ross Siler. Looks like AK is shooting for game 6 or 7.
4. The rest will be good… that’s what I keep telling myself
5. It was a non-issue. If you watch the full play Melo rams into CJ before the foul was even called, that’s what caused him to veer to the sideline and step on the line. The way they were calling the game he had three chances to stop fouling before he got the whistle.
agreed
I felt like Melo fouled CJ at least three times before the whistle blew.
I agree
I think the ref no called for as long as he could, but that obvious reach had to draw something.
Sorry Denver fans, but ’melo bumped him out. BTW, Jazz fans should definitely chant ’Meh-Low during the games this weekend. We can get into his head, 2nd best would be Chon-C
by murderousmalone on Apr 21, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think it would definitely bother him
I messaged both Siler and Locke about it on twitter, but got no response from either. Any ideas on how to get the word out?
#8
I don’t even want to hear that. Just sets us up for disappointment. Would be better if he just showed up on the court one night, like an extra-terrestrial.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 21, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
#5
He was definitely knocked toward the baseline before he stepped out. I do agree, however, that the ref blew the whistle after he stepped out. Still, Melo was stupid for playing him so close with 5. For a stretch, everyone was getting whistled but Melo—and he clearly COULD have been called for several things earlier. Melo, I’m sure, just figured he could get away with it because he’s a superstar.
by chamont on Apr 21, 2010 10:42 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Miles was clearly fouled by Melo 2 seconds before he stepped on sideline, as he dribbled toward the middle of court, with 28.8 seconds left. Melo bumped him and reached across his body, causing CJ to fumble his dribble and retreat back toward the sideline, where he stepped out of bounds.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 21, 2010 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Go Jazz!
If you guys can win both the home games im going to get super excited. Cant wait to see the Jazz play in L.A in a few weeks.
nuggs fans complain about the refs every second of there life,it does not help when your main blogger (Andrew F) is the one who is instigating his conspiracy’s over at denver stiffs.
If you guys can defend the home court a Lakers-Jazz series will be very entertaining
go Jazz!
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Conspiracy Theory
I have a funny feeling that the Mormon church controls the NBA, and that these injuries to AK & Memo were no accident. The Mormon church is pulling stings and trying to create a situation where the Jazz can only win a championship if a miracle happens. If this happens people will think of Utah when they think of miracles, and when they think of Utah they’ll think of the Mormon church…..this will most likely result in an increased conversion rate for the Church.
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by chicagorilla on Apr 21, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
- - we’d have a shot against OKC, but none vs. the lakers
- - memo needs a vasectomy
- - this therapy is not really that new. it’s a good step. i’m glad AK isn’t a Jehova’s Witness.
- - I know, but we need the rest more than denver does, and the longer the series goes, the better it is, for . . . AK and his health issues.
- - CJ was out of bounds, but so many calls can happen on any play in that game, nit-picking which calls to actually call is suspiciously hypocritical “call CJ out, but don’t call Melo for mugging him” . . .“call player x for a charge, but when it’s player y charging, call it a flop on player z”
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Apr 21, 2010 12:13 PM MDT reply actions
Nugg conspiricy theories
are hilarious. I’m even open to the idea that the NBA management would actively rig games, though I don’t really buy that it’s ever happened, but that they’d do this directly i.e. they’ll just screw over everyone who the Cavs/Lakers play when they play them. There’s no need to worry about the other games. That Stern is sitting in his office, fists pounding on his desk, “We’ve got to stop the NUGGETS!!! They’ll ruin everything!!!” he declares at his underlings . . . I just don’t see it.
Also, if that game is what the refs “throwing” the series for Utah looks like, man, the refs are 1000 times more incompetent than anyone dared believe. Here’s some advice: you want a team to lose, don’t let them shoot 44 free throws. (More free throws, indeed, than Utah would’ve taken were it not for the late and intentional fouling on Denver’s part.)
What I don't understand about the conspiracy
Is why they are going to let the Jazz advance. Why not let the Nuggs advance and then really get the ball rolling on getting them eliminated vs the Lakers?
But what do I know? I just root for a team who only wins when the NBA wants it to win.
by murderousmalone on Apr 21, 2010 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Jazz are an easier put for Denver
Helps to ensure it’s Kobe vs lebron in the finals. Of course stern could always rig a lakers nuggets series so it doesn’t really make any sense.
by tyrantking on Apr 21, 2010 2:19 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Carmelo says the Nuggets will play more physical in Game 3
Hate to see what that could look like. More physical than flagrant fouls? More physical than 6 or 7 offensive fouls? More physical than 91 free throws? Things could get ugly in a bad way. Let’s hope everyone keeps their heads.
by Bouncy Phillips on Apr 21, 2010 1:42 PM MDT reply actions
Great thread
1. The reason the Thunder aren’t afraid is because Scott Brooks isn’t competing with Jackson for “all-time greatness” status, so Jackson doesn’t waste any of his Zentimidation…saves it instead for Sloan.
2. So if Memo’s rehab goes well, all might not be lost, and here’s why: He’s never been about leaping the way Elton Brand (who had the same issue, no?) has been. Memo’s a set shot guy with some decent post moves. Of course it will never be the same, but maybe because his leaping ceiling was lower to begin with, it won’t be that different for him……..or maybe because his ceiling was so low in the first place he’ll be left with a complete inability to get off the floor…… sigh.
8. whatever….just hurry.
4. Friday???? Whiskey Hotel Foxtrot! It’s the first round… One day for travel is sufficient wait time. Are the finals in August this year?
5. most of my thoughts have been expressed above. All I can add is this: out of bounds is not a gray-area violation. You can’t really no-call out of bounds. If the ref noticed, he would have to have called something (he could have called a push at that point). But reaching in is a gray area thing in the NBA. So it’s fair to have an argument about if a reach-in foul should have been a no-call (hence all the conversation) but the only thing to say about out of bounds is that it was a MISSED call, and that’s different. So at the end of the day, as a Jazz fan, I have to say he was out because he was pushed and the whistle should have been called at that moment and a foul still called. But I can see why Nuggets fans are irate. All I can say to them is, with respect, suck it. We’ve been putting up with that kind of BS in lakers games since 1985.
I'll make it coach.
Ok, now I get it
I was wondering what WHF was
by murderousmalone on Apr 21, 2010 8:09 PM MDT up reply actions
1. Don’t put the cart before the horse or the egg before the chicken. I would prefer the Thunder ala Warriors beating the Mavs and Jazz going to the WCF, but let’s worry about Denver.
2. You got to start rehab asap or it heals tight and you are likely to injure it again.
8. Don’t rush it but get better fast!
4. Why such a long wait? Seems to me they have crunched the regular season and drawn out the playoffs. Guess you got to milk the cash cow.
5. Thanks for posting that picture. And this has got a lot of attention. I have heard a lot of people rant about how CJ stepped out. Overall it is probably a wash, Melo pushed him out but CJ stepped out. So ehh. I know some Denver fans are pissed about that no-call, but welcome to the NBA.
I agree with not worrying about round two until we make it past round one. I really really really like to see Fes and Booz/Sap. Fes clogs the lane and only takes shots he can make, dunk. He needs more pt to become comfortable and not make dumb mistakes. I think the Jazz planned for loseing Booz when they resigned Memo. Imagine Memo playing with Fes or KOOF. DWILL, OMSW, AK, Memo, Fes. an unstopable bunch of nobodies.
Sometimes it takes the Refs a second to make the call. He could have been breathing in or sneezing, hence the closed eyes, during the initial foul so it took him a second to blow the whistle. It happens all the time for there to be a late call.
Fans of Melo in Utah
Has anyone discussed this commercial yet, WTH? If so, can someone give a link to where its been discussed?
I see that its a Jordan commercial and Jordan sponsors Carmelo, but it seems sarcastic towards him, so I’m really confused.
PS Boom, Bitches.
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We don’t need him laying around bored for a long time and then find out that Yeliz is expecting again.
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One could say there is a conspiracy against the Jazz . For making them wait so long, and then throwing them into a “SUNDAY” home game… just saying.
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