Who Matters Most on the Jazz Right Now?- More numbers than you want to know about
This guy is really important to our playoff run. Not Steve Brown, but the guy with his shirt off.
Let me just warn you right now. I am delving a little bit into some numbers.
I will try my best to make this readable. I was just wondering if some of my observations about the Jazz compared with the statistics if I looked them up. And mostly I wondered how Kyrylo Fesenko was really impacting the Jazz defense. I have been a proponent for a long time now that Fesenko would absolutely change our entire defense, his ridiculous foul-rate be damned. I think I was right. But before I show you the numbers I crunched, I would like to point out how close the Jazz are to having an absolutely deadly defensive lineup. Kyrylo Fesenko plugs the middle of the court so effectively and turns teams into jumpshooters. Wesley Matthews is the best perimeter defender the Jazz have had since the days of Bryon Russell and Shandon Anderson. And when the Jazz get Andrei Kirilenko back healthy, they can run a lineup of Deron Williams, Matthews, AK, Paul Millsap, and Fesenko and make life very difficult for opponents. And those guys might all be back next season. But onto the topic at hand...
I wanted to see how the team's offense and defense were affected with certain players on the floor. To do this I looked at the +/- stats for all four playoff games. I know there are a lot of problems with the +/- statistic, but in this case, I actually think it works really well. In the playoffs, coaches shorten their benches and mostly play their best players. And you play the same team back to back with similar time between games, so there are fewer variables to distort the +/- stat. And since almost all 192 minutes of this series have been meaningful, the numbers are not "trash-time" numbers. Jeffers, Koufos, and Gaines have played only a combined 16 minutes in the series.
So here is how it works. Let's take Kyrylo Fesenko, the guy I was most interested in, as an example. There have been 192 total minutes of gametime in this series. The Jazz have scored 449 points and the Nuggets have scored 436. Fesenko has played 78 minutes. While he has played the Nuggets have scored 162 points, or 2.08 points per minute. In the 114 minutes that Fesenko has been on the bench, the Nuggets have scored 274 points or 2.4 points per minute. So in my ruling, Fesenko gets a -0.32 points per minute rating (difference between the two numbers). So defensively a negative number is a good thing. To make it practical, in the 28 minutes that Fesenko is on the bench, the Jazz give up 9 more points than if Fesenko were on the floor. That's huge. Can any Jazz player top that? Here are some other defensive "scores" for the other Jazz players that get "significant" minutes. Okur's 11 minutes won't be counted (his defensive score was a gastly +0.6) and neither will the 16 minutes from Sundiothus Koufers.
Player-Defensive points per minute ON FLOOR-ON BENCH= DEF SCORE
Fesenko- 2.08 - 2.4 = -0.32
D.Williams- 2.27 - 2.35 = -0.08
W.Matthews- 2.26 - 2.27 =-0.01
K.Korver- 2.26 - 2.27 = -0.01
P.Millsap- 2.25 - 2.3 = -0.05
C.Boozer- 2.31 - 2.09 = +0.22
R.Price- 2.39 - 2.34 = +0.05
CJ.Miles- 2.28 - 2.27 = +0.01
Average point per minute total = 2.27
Fesenko has BY FAR the biggest impact of all the players on the defensive end. Not too surprised, but I was surprised.
The bigger surprise was the fact that Wesley Matthews and Kyle Korver have identical defensive influence
Look at Carlos Boozer's number. If I were reading my stuff, I would accuse me of looking for stats to show what little influence Boozer has on the defensive end. But I didn't seek it out. I was curious as to what I would find. But the Jazz are much better at defense when Boozer sits. In this case he is the Anti-Fesenko. Which should be his new nickname.
I wonder what AK's numbers would be if he were healthy in this series? My guess: he would be in 2nd place.
Are you wondering what the number look like on the offensive side? If you aren't, then read no further. Just remember on the offensive side, the more positive the number, the bigger your influence is on the offensive side of the ball.
Player- Points scored per minute while on floor - pspm while on bench = OFFENSIVE SCORE
K.Fesenko- 2.4 - 2.3 = +0.1
D.Williams- 2.4 - 2.03 = +0.37
W.Matthews- 2.37 - 2.23 = +0.14
K.Korver- 2.38 - 2.3 = +0.08
P.Millsap- 2.32 - 2.37 = -0.05
C.Boozer- 2.34 - 2.31 = +0.03
R.Price- 2.24 - 2.36 = -0.12
CJ.Miles- 2.2 - 2.6 = -0.4
Still think we don't lose anything offensively, when Deron Williams goes out of the game?
And CJ. Really? He kills our offense in this series. I was surprised to see that.
Also surprised to see that Matthews and Fesenko help the offense so much. but then again, that is why they are first and third in overall +/- for the series.
I'm going to keep track of these numbers throughout the playoffs to see if they remain consistent, but my hypothesis is that they will. Fesenko is the key to our defense and Deron is the key to our offense. I don't know what Jazz fan would argue with that.
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Interesting stuff
I’ve already voiced my opinions of +/- stats. I don’t think they adequately represent a players impact in games.
Fes has been a stud though. Hands down.
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MonSTARZ forever!
I think they do
But only over a long-haul like a series or a season. One game means nothing and a few games might only show a slump.
by mcjazzman32 on Apr 27, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
i'm really surprised by cj and boozer's offensive scores
and how just plain watching games and stats can yield such different results
memo
we know memo’s defensive rating would have had to be similar to Boozer’s. I hate to say it but if Memo was healthy this series could be 3-1 Denver.
It’s not that Memo is that bad, or that Fes is that good, the key is that we can’t have Boozer and Memo on the floor together. 2 terrible defensive guys down low kills us.
I have been making a case to anyone that will listen all season that the Jazz can compete with the Lakers if they played Fes over Memo. Looks like I will get a chance to see if it would work. My thoughts are that LA’s army of big men don’t even have to break a sweat to score against Boozer and Memo, but with Fes in there they will need to work real hard to get points (they would also be bruised and battered by the end of the game.)
what happens if the Jazz sign Booz in the offseason? Does that make Memo expendable? Will Memo ever be the same anyways? A slower Memo = back to EuroBall. If the Jazz don’t sign Booz, Millsap and Memo (100% healthy) would make a good starting front court with Fes being huge off the bench.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Apr 27, 2010 7:44 PM MDT up reply actions
(head spinning....too many numbers....)
That’s a lot of work Clark, but it paints an optimistic picture, so I dig it.
I'll make it coach.
This is an awesome post,
so awesome, that i’m scrapping my numbers based Fes post
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