Deron Williams Selected To The All-NBA Second Team
by Basketball John on May 6, 2010 12:29 PM MDT
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Congratulations to DWill for making the All-NBA second team. Predictably he finished behind Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade who made first-team honors. He received 14 1st-place votes and 343 points.
This is Deron's second selection to the 2nd team. He made it in the 2007-08 season as well.
Deron's back-court mate on the second team is Steve Nash who received more first-place votes (24) and overall points (366).
Carlos Boozer also got 33 votes.
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Other players receiving votes, with point totals (first team votes in parentheses): Chris Bosh, Toronto, 80; Rajon Rondo, Boston, 47; David Lee, New York, 43; Carlos Boozer, Utah, 33; Chauncey Billups, Denver, 24; Zach Randolph, Memphis, 20; Al Horford, Atlanta, 19; Jason Kidd, Dallas, 18; Derrick Rose, Chicago, 15; Chris Paul, New Orleans, 14; Manu Ginobili, San Antonio, 13; Chris Kaman, LA Clippers, 9; Brook Lopez, New Jersey, 6; Josh Smith, Atlanta, 6; Paul Pierce, Boston, 6; Gerald Wallace, Charlotte, 5; Marcus Camby, Portland, 3; Andrew Bynum, LA Lakers, 2; Danny Granger, Indiana, 2; David West, New Orleans, 1; Kevin Garnett, Boston, 1; Mo Williams; Cleveland, 1; Tony Parker San Antonio, 1.
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It's simple: they need a PG category.
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on May 6, 2010 1:38 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
He'd still be second team. Nash got a couple more votes.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Fine, but don't compare him to Wade or Kobe
They don’t have the same job.
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on May 7, 2010 7:34 AM MDT up reply actions
Honestly
That THIRD team…. Could probably take that First team. That’s sayin something.
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I don't know...
That might be a little bit of a stretch. Every player on the first team can be a shut down defender with the exception of Durant. The same can’t be said about the third team…
The height
and skill on the third team would easily disrupt that first team. Gasol, Bogut, and Tim Duncan? That is a rediculious frontcourt.
The first team would hardly ever get a rebound/ uncontested shot. Roy and Johnson are easily quick enough to hang around and play defense on the permiter.
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MonSTARZ forever!
So your telling me
that you think an improved but less than intimidating Bogut and a declining Duncan, paired with a skilled but weak Gasol would be too much for the first team to handle? Howard may be stronger than all 3 combined and would absolutely get his fair share of rebounds. Same goes for Lebron.
As for the scoring… that would be the easy part for the first team. Set up Howard down low and spread the other four guys around the perimeter. No one can stop Howard one on one and if you double him, all four of the other guys will kill you with open looks. Not to mention all four of the perimeter guys can pass so if they took their man off the dribble and the D were to close, someone would inevitably get a clean look.
I’m not saying it wouldn’t be fun to watch, but I think you are giving the third team too much credit.
Game 5, 2009 NBA Finals
Howard only scored one FG when he was single-covered by Gasol the entire game. Something like 35 or 40 possessions of single coverage by Gasol, and for about the same number of possessions there was some sort of double coverage. The remainder of the possessions he was guarded by Bynum. The “weak” label for Gasol ended after the 07-08 season. The summer after the Game 6 massacre in Boston, he lifted weights for the first time in his life and put on ten pounds of muscle. He’s still lean, but he’s not thin like he used to be.
by The Dude Abides on May 7, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
That may not have been Howards best game but if you look at his stat line for the entire series game 5 included…
Howard averaged 15 points, 15 rebounds, and 4 blocks. Not a bad stat line to average when going against 3 seven footers 40+ min a night. Add to that an improved offensive skill set on the part of Howard this year (he can now do more than just power dunk on people) and I would venture to say his point totals would go up. Compared to Howard, nearly everyone in the league is weak… especially Gasol. The dude is ridiculously strong.
My main point here is that there is no question Howard would hold position in the middle, play huge defense and get his. Plus in this hypothetical matchup, I would imagine Bogut or Duncan would have to be playing defense on Howard. Unless you want them trying to guard Durant or Lebron…
Howard is strong
But his biggest asset is that he’s unbelievably quick for a 7-footer, which combined with his great strength, means that he’s the best two-way big man in the league. I believe Gasol is the second best. I don’t think an argument can be made for Tim Duncan anymore, not after watching Goran Dragic destroy him tonight in that fourth quarter as soon as the Spurs switched on those pick and rolls.
Back to last season’s Finals, it’s not like Dwight was facing three bigs at once against the Lakers. Only two of them are in the game at any one time, and because Orlando has a stretch four in Rashard Lewis, the double teams that Howard saw usually happened with a wing or a PG doubling down on him, not a second big man.
by The Dude Abides on May 8, 2010 12:37 AM MDT up reply actions
I think you are missing my point...
I never said that Howard went up against all 3 guys at the same time or that they were the ones to come on a double every time. There are only so many talented seven footers in the league and LA has 3 of them. Odom may not spend as much time in the paint, but he still has the size and the skill set to mix it up with the big boys.
What did that mean for Howard? Not one time during the series did he get to rest by going against a defender who doesn’t have the size and talent to guard him. Most teams in NBA don’t have that luxury. All I’m saying that points to is that in this purely hypothetical situation where the first team and the third team would square off, Howard would still produce and do a pretty darn good job of it.
Funny, the third team really has 3 centers
two just happen to consider themselves PF’s
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And the first team no PG
It would be a funny game to watch. The first team would just take turns playing 1-on-whoever is in front of them. You know, kind of like the Cavs….and Heat…
I'll make it coach.
by MTN on May 7, 2010 7:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I thought the same thing
when I went through the teams. I bet the 3rd team could give the First team a run for their money. I don’t know if they would win, but it would be a good show.
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