The Downbeat - 10 June 2010 - #247 - The No LA In UT Edition
by Basketball John on Jun 10, 2010 9:04 AM MDT
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Today's one of the big workout days for the Jazz. Here's who's coming in:
If you're looking for the big center, this is the group (well, not all of them of course).
Here's some audio from the guys brought in yesterday (courtesy of the Utah Jazz)
There had been some hope of having a Rocky Mountain Revue a few months back when it was reported that the Jazz had reserved some dates in July but it's not going to happen. They're heading back to Orlando,
The Orlando Magic will host the 2010 AirTran Airways Pro Summer League at the RDV Sportsplex from July 5-9.
The 20-game event will feature the Orlando Magic, New Jersey Nets, Philadelphia 76ers, Indiana Pacers, Oklahoma City Thunder, Utah Jazz, Boston Celtics and the Charlotte Bobcats.
While it's sad to see the RMR gone, probably for good, the least they could do would be to hold their camp in Vegas so that fans could still actually attend. Notice the other teams in the league? They're all in the east with the exception of OKC. I guess they can't get into trouble in Orlando. I have yet to hear of the players that go the Vegas league of having problems though.
Ugh, this makes me sick to my stomach. Siler writes that it's possible the Flash becomes the DLeague affiliate of the Lakers,
From a geographical standpoint, the Lakers' closest potential affiliate would be the Bakersfield (Calif.) Jam. However, Flash owner Brandt Andersen has cultivated a relationship with the Buss family, which could lead to the Lakers affiliating with the Flash.
It's not as far-fetched an idea as it might sound at first. As much as their teams are rivals, Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor and Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak have gotten together to schedule things like preseason games in the past.
We don't want that yellow taint in Utah. They would only have 1 or 2 players there but I don't want anything to do with the Lakers. It's not a problem having shared with Boston and Atlanta in the past because they're not rivals.
The only way this works for me is if we could turn one of the Lakers DLeaguers and have them sabotage LA somehow.
It would also be interesting to see the fans' reactions when one of the Lakers get in the game. Would they be booed? I think I would.
Great lunch with Clarkpojo, shums, and jake1a yesterday. I wish we would have had more time, we could have talked Jazz all day. Clark has a good spot up on how Minnesota could be dangerous next season, you know, even more than they are now to the Jazz. If they make a jump next season, which is possible, the NW division is going to be nasty. I'm not too worried though because Kaaaaahhhhhhhn! will screw it up. If they succeed, it will be despite him.
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Shums was going to record it but didn't
I had the Crown Burger. We talked a lot of Boozer.
by Basketball John on Jun 10, 2010 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, sorry
I didn’t think to bring my digital voice recorder until I was already driving there. Definitely a lot of fun though.
We did talk a lot about Boozer. None of us saw any reasonable way he’d be re-signed, unless AK, Memo or Millsap are traded, which we didn’t see happening. We also figured it unlikely that Boozer could be used in a sign-and-trade, as almost all the teams who would be interested in him (Miami, New Jersey, etc.) have the money to sign him outright, so why would they bother to trade us anything?
Clark and I both agreed that we’d pull the trigger on the Brand + #2 deal from Philly. And we’d pick Favors.
Jake1ar’s hatred of the Lakers is truly vicious.
We need to do SLC Dunk meets more often.
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for the record
I also ate a crown burger and talked a lot of Boozer.. it was a fun discussion. I am pretty sure there are some people in our little blogging world who could do a better job at running an NBA team than some of the GMs out there (Kahhhnnn!)
I really think that we should have more slcdunk get togethers. Its hard to coordinate sometimes, but I think its fun to talk in person with people who are passionate and knowledgeable of the Jazz. I would love to see more little get togethers, or even just a Jazz game we go to.
But anyways, thanks for the lunch guys.
I might be in the minority
but there seem to be 3 guys working out who could go #9 (or have been rumored in that area)… and I hope the Jazz pass on all of them.
Bradley & Brackins are mid/late 1st rounders (the other 3 could be falling there)… are the Jazz looking seriously at trading down?
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I'd say
pass on whiteside and aldrich. take Udoh if you want. He’d be a solid backup behind Millsap in a year
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Why
Aldrich is better then Udoh. Statistically speaking Aldrich was way more efficient. He put up similar stats in way less time per game.
Udoh only had one solid season with Baylor. He also tailed off towards the end of the season.
Aldrich shows way more promise in my opinion.
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jun 10, 2010 10:35 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd agree.
Aldrich > Udoh (though Udoh might… just might… have some more upside in the very long run).
That said, I’m still passing on both of them at #9
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Hey Utesfan
Who do you like at 9?
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jun 10, 2010 10:55 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I like
Monroe, but I don’t see him being there.
I also like Xavier Henry & James Anderson, but both of those guys are reaches.
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On Henry and Anderson. Both really good scorers. Anderson is a big time 3pt threat. Both would take pressure off DWill….I would be happy with either of them.
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jun 10, 2010 10:59 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
I’m starting to think that if Monroe is gone (and the Jazz don’t trade up, obviously), I wouldn’t mind trading down to #12 (Memphis) or #16 (Minnesota) and picking up another 1st rounder (both teams have extra ones later in the 1st) and then snagging Henry or Anderson there (and then a big with the later pick)
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That would be sweet!
Getting a prolific scorer like Anderson or Paul George and still getting maybe a Solomon Alabi or Gani Lawal…or whoever the best big is available.
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jun 10, 2010 11:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
I wonder if we could get a team to move up.
If Memphis & NO both like Paul George, we could get Memphis to jump NO for him. Or if Minny really wants #2, maybe #9 & #4 works better than #9 and 2 later 1st rounders?
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Look at their Per 40 min stats...
Udoh – 15pts 11reb 4blk
Aldrich – 17pts 14.7reb 5blk
Aldrich is a much better rebounder and shot blocker. He is also 2inches taller and has a higher standing reach than Udoh.
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jun 10, 2010 10:53 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Udoh
has alot more upside than Aldrich. He’s alot more athletic. He has a better outside shot than Aldrich and finishes well at the rim. His stats have gotten better every year. He’s better in isolation too.
I’d take Udoh over Aldrich everyday of the week and twice on sunday. I dunno what youre talking about when you say he tailed off at the end of the season. He did very well in the NCAA tourny. The kid has massive upside.
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"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
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Players
who are older like Udoh tend to dominate younger players. He’s 22 about to turn 23, That’s a red flag.
That said, I’d rather see the Jazz go with Monroe if available or Henry.
by scrantonicity33 on Jun 10, 2010 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Glad your not our GM
Cause Aldrich would destroy Udoh.
I guarantee Aldrich has a better NBA career.
Personally I am very open as to who we draft because I will support any of them.
But Cole is better so HA!
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jun 10, 2010 8:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
We'll
see. But I doubt it. Udoh will have a better rookie season right off the bat than Aldrich and it’ll be smooth sailin from there on.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Im gonna save these last 3 posts
and in 5 years whoever was right will owe the other guys dinner or something. Its all speculation and thats why I try not to get too excited before the draft. I just hope that Sloan gives whoever we draft sufficient playing time to develop pretty quickly and we dont have another Fesenko/Koufos situation three years down the road.
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(from Siler)
There’s a lot of buzz around Luke Babbitt, but Babbitt’s own comments at his workout suggested that the Jazz had a lot of questions about whether he could defend at the NBA level. I’m not so sure the Jazz would go with Babbitt over Henry if both were available.
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Also
From the workouts they’ve held so far, the Jazz seem to be comfortable with at least four players: Monroe, Aldrich, Henry and Udoh. By their own admission, Aminu’s athleticism would make him tough to pass on should he fall as well.
With the top-5 all but guaranteed to be gone (Wall, Turner, Favors, Cousins, Johnson) plus probably Monroe as well, that leaves 2 teams (probably of the Kings/Warriors/Pistons/Clippers quartet, barring something shocking in the top 4 picks) and 4 players (Aldrich, Henry, Udoh, Aminu). So the Jazz shouldn’t have to worry about “their guy” being gone unless they’re really focusing in on 1 or 2 players
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I really
Hope it’s not aldrich.
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
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