Quantitative Analysis of Orlando 2010 Summer League
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 10, 2010 8:20 PM MDT
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That's one boring title. If you were able to record the games, watch them at work, or wake up early you'd know that the Utah Jazz Summer League games were anything but. Game 1 ended with a missed buzzer beater by Sundiata Gaines. Game 2 was a close victory that was iced by Gordon Hayward's dagger three, and free throws. Game 3, uh, had 11 different guys plays 10 minutes or more of action. Game 4 was a game where the team played Jazz basketball and ran away with it early. It was Kosta Koufos' best game ever, he finished with 19 points, 7 rebounds and a block. Game 5 had the Jazz coaching staff give a lot of guys the game off, yet the Jazz still won by nearly 30 points. Jeremy Evansand Jermaero Davidson solidified their training camp invites with a combined 28 points and 12 rebounds.
Yes, the excitement of these games have been *slightly* overshadowed by the Free Agency circus. Also, these guys aren't likely to represent the Jazz next season. To be honest, portions of each game were very scrappy, minus the "s". But gosh darnit, it's the only Jazz basketball we'll get until October! Read on for the crunchy bits . . .
Okay, I wrote a big long blurb here, that did not save, and then my browser (thanks firefox) decided to go nuts. So I have to re-write all of this stuff; and invariably, it's probably going to be worse than what I had written the first time. So, bear with me . . .
If you've been reading any of my other stat based stuff you've probably come across some stats that you don't see in your newspaper boxscore. This is mostly because they are stats that I've 'made up' in a way to better evaluate players. I explain them here, give a frame of reference for my Gestalt Offensive Rating (GO Rating) here, and use them here. Long story short: Gestalt Offense distills a player's offensive production down to a simple number that normalizes for pace and minutes played. Bigger number the better: 80+ is an All-Star, 50+ is a starter. Shooting Worth (SW) shows how many points a guy scores for each FGA he takes. This values guys who get to the line more and/or who take good shots: 1.22 is league average, bigger number the better. Shooting Frequency (SF) shows us how many minutes a guy needs to play before taking one shot. Lower numbers indicate guys who jack shots, higher numbers show guys with better restraint. Defensive Gambling (DG) shows how many combined steals and blocks a player gets for each foul. Higher numbers are better here as well. Pure Hustle (PH) is like DG, but also factors in offensive rebounds and turn overs. If you have any questions, feel free to fire them below in the comments section. Lastly, I've changed the primary colors of these graphs to better reflect the new (yet old) colors of the Jazz logo (that were re-revealed to all earlier this summer). I think it makes them look busy, but they are accurate. If people don't like 'em, I'll change them back for future articles.
Point Guards and Swingmen:
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Gordon Hayward:
The mark of a stellar shooter is making that 50/40/90 mark. That's netting shooting averages of at least 50 fg%, 40 3pt% and 90 ft%. The last guy we had who did something like that was Jeff Hornacek. In the 5 games that Gordon played he got 62 fg%, 33.3 3pt%, and 93 ft%. That's pretty amazing. What I was more impressed with than his shooting was his ability to see the floor on offense and defense, and know where to move depending on the situation. He got open when needed, he ran his man through a series of screens, and found his way to the ball. If you listened to NBA TV's commentators (mainly Rich Kamla) you heard two things over and over again: 1 - Hayward has a great Basketball IQ, 2 - the commentators whining about his lack of shooting. Part of me wanted to see him shoot more than 4.2 fga per game, but I was actually quite respectful of his decision to NOT jack shots up just because he was a lotto pick playing in the summer league. Despite being the best player out there, he ran the Jazz plays and only took shots when they were the best ones for his team and within the team offense. The Jazz aren't asking for Gordon to do his Kobe impersonation come November, and they sure didn't want to see one in July. Kudos to him for not trying to give them one. The opposite of this would be Marco Belinelli who shot the ball every time he caught it in summer league, even once scoring 37 points - while never learning the true value of team play (and presumably the Christmas spirit either) and has had a pretty crappy career. (If you can't make it as a guy who just shoots all the time under Don Nelson what does that say to you, as a basketball player?) Everyone was quick to get on the Belinelliwagon, but true ability is knowing when to use it, and when not to.
He only played 21 mpg, and only shot the ball once every 5 minutes of play. Still he managed nearly a steal and a block per game *and* almost 6 free throw attempts per game. He was money at the line (as we've see above: 92.857 ft%), which bumped up his Shooting Worth to 2.571. I've never seen one that high before. This means for every shot he took (and we know from growing up, if you shoot once you get 2 or 3 points ONLY IF YOU MAKE IT) he was getting 2.5 points - including the misses he had. (Again: Shooting worth is Total points / Total FGA -- league avg is 1.22; Karl Malone who lived at the line and took a lot of good shots was only 1.4) Statistically you'd expect this number to go way down when he takes more than 4 shots a game. But for this rookie, he make Summer League his own without having to dominate the ball. I was not impressed with the pick on draft night (mostly because he wasn't a 7' tall black guy), but I'm expecting this kid to be a player for a while now. (until Portland throws a dumptruck full of money at him in 2 years)
Sundiata Gaines:
This guy has that NY Swagger, likes to dominate the ball and will even throw out the playbook and go one on one against another guy and shoot it every time down the floor (as we saw in the Nets game). What this point guard does not have, mind you, is an assist to turn over ratio that's higher than 1.15; a reliable free throw shot (only 48.57 ft%); and a general understanding of playing the point guard position. His greatest strengths also played into his greatest faults. He does dominate the ball and can really drive with the best of them (good). Instead of turning this into easy buckets for open team mates (only 3 apg in 19+ mpg) he would shoot it (bad). He did get to the line a lot - 7 times a game (good), but I shoot better than him at the free throw line (bad). Quickly this becomes a real-life parody of that Simpsons sequence where Homer buys the Krusty the Clown Doll from the creepy Asian dude (in a Halloween special - watch the clip, it'sonly 0:44 seconds long). I kind of wanted more than an evil Krusty doll from Sundiata, especially when Dee Brown is doing so much more for his team in the Vegas Summer league, but that's why Gaines is a 3rd string guy.
Othyus Jeffers:
OJ did okay. He did not shoot the ball too much (or, you know, kill anyone), and when he did (shoot the ball, I mean), it was usually a good shot. The majority of the things he did well don't show up on a box score. He made very hard cuts, played really good defense and didn't try to get his Sundiata on. He hit the glass (3.6 rpg for a guy who is 'listed' at 6'5 is pretty good), went to the line (nearly 5 times a game), but did not even ATTEMPT a single three point shot. Perhaps this isn't part of his game, but as a team, we're going to need threes from somewhere (as our SGs seem to be departing every single day) -- it would behoove one of our few shooting guards signed for next season to actually shoot shots from there.
Tyrese Rice:
I needed to put up Tyrese's numbers as he was the guy on the roster who got the 2nd most PG minutes. Why? So we can better judge Sundiata's numbers. Dude played nearly 6 minutes less a game than 'Yatta, but shot less (higher SF), shot better (higher SW), had nearly as many assists per game and nearly had the same assists to turn over ratio. The good news for Rice is that he came out of nowhere so I can't say he sucks. The bad news is that he still played worse than Sundiata did. To his credit, he did try to pass the ball a bit, but not all of his passes were on the mark.
Thomas Gardner:
Don't even get me started on this guy . . . I'm including him because he just shot the ball so damn much. He forced his way into this discussion because of all the shots he forced up. He shot the ball once every 2.207 minutes. (2.207 minutes? That's every 2:12.42 minutes) Such that, in the wild case where he would play 20 minutes of basketball, at that fixed rate, he would shoot the ball over 9 times. This is the shooting frequency of your first option. That would be fine if this guy was first option material. Dude shot the ball with an eFG% of 35.185% and a shooting worth of 0.778. That is well below league average (1.22), and while it's not my intent to waste space on the internet killing a guy who playing basketball poorly -- but this guy shoots the ball slightly less frequently than Larry 'Cotdamn Bird. With the way our front office is moving (and we saw more movement from a Brontosaurus trying to find a comfy spot to lay down in a tar pit) this of season, dude may get a training camp invite.
Bigmen:
Kosta Koufos:
Our very own Stonehands McDroppedpass played nearly 23 mpg, never got close to fouling out, and rewarded us with 12.5 ppg (51.5 fg%), 7.3 rpg and 1.3 bpg. He went to the line 6 times a game and didn't jack up the ball every time he touched it (compare it to previous RMR's where his shooting frequency was as high as Ewing's was, when Ewing was an All-Star). I'm impressed with his work here, he used his size against smaller guys and on occasion stepped out to knock down jumpers he wouldn't dare take with Jerry Sloan breathing down his neck. At a time where we need our young guys to show anything, Kostareminded everyone why he was a 1st round pick. The bad news for him is that we're going to expect him to continue playing with confidence and continue getting better.
James Augustine:
One of D-Will's boys had a huge Game 1 (20 pts, 9/10 fg) but finished summer leage with a 6.2 ppg average. He did shoot an amazing 68.4 fg% -- and we need power forward depth . . . I wouldn't be surprised to see him in training camp if we lose more guys between now and October.
Jeremy Evans:
This is our skywalking 2nd rounder. We do pretty okay with 2nd round pick, so I don't feel so bad. He's young, long and can jump out of this atmosphere. It is a shame for both of us that I weigh more than him though, because I'm a short Indian guy - and he's a power forward. With the departure of Kyle, Deron is going to need some guy to get easy assists off of.
He shot a very good percentage andhe a guy that we should seriously consider fast-tracking into a rotation guy. (Either send him to the Flash and play him 38 mpg there, or play him 10 mpg with the Jazz if this is going to be a 'down' year) His Defensive Gambling and Pure Hustle numbers were also things to smile about.
Jermareo Davidson:
Besides having the coolest hair out of the entire team, this guy actually impressed me the most. He hardly got any playing time, but he had the second highest Go Rating on the team. He did not take bad shots, he made 60 fg% of them -- and as a big guy, a majority of them were 16' and out from the basket. Open jumpers, over and over, swish, swish, swish. On a team that is only as good as its' floor spacing this guy played like a focused, less polished Rasheed Wallace. Got got about a rebound every 3 mins on the floor, scored nearly 8 ppg in 10 mins of action and had a shoot worth that was better than Karl Malone's. No blocks, but he did a lot of things right. If Augustine didn't have such a good 1st game, I'd say that Davidson would be going to training camp. If the Jazz know what's good for them, he should be anyway. Again, this guy blew me away.
Rod Benson:
The Jazz should know who this guy is by now because he has put in his work in the NBA-DL for a while now. Out of everyone listed here, he played the least minutes (8.975 mins per game); however, the minutes he played showed us all a lot. He's active on defense, crashed the glass, and isn't some 19 year old kid. He has an NBA body and understands the game well. He did everything pretty well: reading the defense, setting screens, passing the ball, crashing the offensive glass. He's playing in Las Vegas right now too - so you know that he's getting exposure as well. He did not jump off the stat sheet in any way (because of his low MPG), but that doesn't mean he's not worth an extended look. If Fes can't be had for super cheap (thanks again Portland, stay classy) then this guy is a must this off-season.
Deeper Exploration:
Of course, there were more players on the Jazz summer league team, but no way am I going to do this for all of them. Some of them made Thomas Gardner look like George Gervin. Really. Aside from Kosta, Sundiata, Othyus and rookie Hayward I would expect the Jazz to offer training camp spots to at least one other guard and two bigs. They should be 2nd rounder Evans, Davidson and Rice - just to make sure Gaines has to try a bit. As a special bonus I also charted up how Hayward's summer league stats match up against his 69 game college career.
As one can see, in 12 less minutes per game he became a much more efficient offensive player while maintaining a very healthy Go Rating. (it even went up, while he scored 4 ppg less!) His boards went down as well, which is a product of both the minutes going down and having a billion bigmen on the summer league roster. Yet, it's very interesting to see this type of internal consistency from a rookie; expecially when looking at the fact that he's now playing with guys he's never played with before. This bodes well for the Jazz, as he may be a rookie who may be able to step into a consistent role with the team. (a la a Shandon, Millsap or Wes)
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...and I really really really really really
want this to be the last time I talk about Gordon Hayward for the next few months. It’s almost like I’m beginning to root for him. And God as my witness, if there’s anyone on this team I want to write homer articles about it’s gotta be Fes (or AK, both are good). And really, how can you not love Fes? He sounds like Ronnie from the totally not safe for work cartoon Frisky Dingo. (click at your own risk)
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 10, 2010 8:39 PM MDT reply actions
Nice break down.
Hayward, Evans, OJ, Rod Benson, Koof, Gaines, and Auggie should get shots at TC.
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I think that Koof, OJ and Gaines
are all signed (OJ and Gaines not for the full year, I take it); thus, they get automatic invites.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 10, 2010 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions
also, Benson may find himself in another training camp
but I really don’t see why he wouldn’t pick the Jazz — it’s not like he doesn’t step into the starting line up in the first day of training camp if Memo is still hurt
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 10, 2010 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I just watched that play by Hayward 10 times in a row, giggling to myself.
SO, SO good.
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Jul 10, 2010 8:58 PM MDT reply actions
agreed
our whiteboy rookie swingman can do the dream shake. what’s not to like?
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 10, 2010 8:59 PM MDT up reply actions
damn you portland!
you are taking so many traffic away from 34 hours of my work! these pretty graphs and the data in them don’t grow on trees!
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 10, 2010 9:43 PM MDT reply actions
so many traffic?
maybe i need a nap or something . . . me fail english? that unpossible!
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 10, 2010 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Do you get payed for this stuff?
How do you have the time? I like your statistical approach. It kind of reminds me of somebody I know…
by davidthecomposer on Jul 10, 2010 10:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't sleep and am going through a personal crisis that I need to keep my mind off of
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 10, 2010 11:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm curious
I realize his drop in rebounds is a combination of less minutes and a bazillion big men. How many do you figure he can/will get per game Millsap and Okur (when/if he returns). It will be good to have someone getting taking some of those offensive rebounds away from 3 point shooting teams.
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…get per game (playing with) Millsap and Okur…
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I think he's going to have to feed on
long rebounds. sloan loves wings who can rebound. at the NBA level most bigmen know how to box out and get boards close to the rim. He’s going to have to get those rondo style boards (on offense), to supplant the few easy ones he’ll get (and not have to give up because boozer’s not on the team anymore).
what i mean is that he moves to where the ball is going, and is able to read the game action pretty well. he’s smart. he’ll find a way. as a rookie with limited playing time, i’m thinking anywhere between 2-2.5 per game would be great.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 10, 2010 11:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Your graphs are pretty
I’m just curious. What’s Matthews’ GO Rating? I want to know if he’s worth what I think he’s worth.
And this makes me very hopeful for both Hayward and the KOOF. I remember Siler’s blog, 2 years ago, when he wrote that other team’s beat writers called KOOF the best under 25-center in the league, besides Dwight Howard.
I wonder if he’ll ever actually make that happen.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
Wes' Go Rating: 31.996
Mind you, he wasn’t a full-time starter until Brewer was gone. Also, Go Rating values guys with the ball in the hand the best (hence PG’s get higher numbers than anyone else, etc). GO Rating doesn’t give the full picture that’s why I try to put in all the other stats as well:
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 11, 2010 12:33 AM MDT up reply actions
hope this works
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 11, 2010 12:34 AM MDT up reply actions
wow, those colours sure do "pop" compared to the ones I used to use
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 11, 2010 12:35 AM MDT up reply actions
sweet stuff as usual FTL - I really liked the college/summer league comparison on Hayward
I’m assuming he was more efficient in SL due to whom he was playing with (i.e. team not having to rely on him like college). Wouldn’t surprise me to see those efficiency numbers get even better . . . .
Through all of SL the thing I was most impressed by — his decision making; GREAT hoops IQ.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 11, 2010 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Na
I’m a huge douche :)
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I'd say that Rice put more pressure on the defense with the ball in his hands
They played nearly identical mins despite Rice playing in one less game. Waters had a better assist:turn over ratio and more steals per game. Aside from those two things, everything else was Rice.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 11, 2010 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions
nope that shows up. i'm at work and on internet explorer
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 11, 2010 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
thanks for that. Was just curious.
Seems weird, cuz Waters was supposedly the better shooter
(especially from downtown)
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maybe he is . . .
just that 4-5 games isn’t much when it comes to sample sizes. who knows, maybe he killed it in practice?
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 11, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah,
but the 0 3-point shots made kinda surprises me too.
I mean, Rice played well… but he’s a ‘score-first’ type of guy.
Not sure if that’ll get it done with the Jazz
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well . . .
Price is a short SG
Gaines is a NY PG, which means a SG with the ball in his hands
Deron will have to go all KJ circa 1993 this season . . .
Rice may just fit in, lol
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 11, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions
lol
I’m not looking for someone to fit in.
I don’t like the guys we currently have… adding another helps nothing.
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My thoughts on these guys. They actually correlate nicely with your GO ratings.
Gordon Hayward- There really isn’t anything not to like about his game. So composed. I am not too worried about the numbers he put up in the summer league, because it will be a different game against the senior team, but he is going to make the team better at some point in his career, even if it isn’t this year. If you are expecting him to score 15 points a game as a rookie, you are probably going to be disappointed. But he will make basketball plays.
Sundiata Gaines- I am a bigger fan of his than most. I wish he got all the backup point guard minutes. Not because I think he runs the offense well, but he plays very tenacious defense and he shoots a lot. I actually think that is what the bench needs. A ballhog. I’m serious. You aren’t going to be able to run the Jazz offense unless you are a very skilled point guard. That is why I was so mad that we traded Maynor. He got it. Price doesn’t. I just want people to score. That is why I always thought it would be smart to trade for Maggette and just let him drive to the basket and shoot free throws for 15 minutes a night off the bench. I like that about Sundiata’s game. Price may try to run the offense, but it just ends up with a hurried shot to beat the buzzer anyway.
Othyus Jeffers- Tough as nails and I like him. But i don’t think he fills one need the Jazz have. if we sign him, I feel like it will be a waste of a roster spot.
Jeremy Evans- Love this guy. Hope he gets rotational minutes this season, with the Jazz. He finishes at the rim. He goes to the rim. He challenges shots at the rim. He’s 200 pounds. He is going to quickly become one of my favorites. Did I mention that his arms hang to his knees?
Benson/Davidson- I prefer Benson. Not for any reason other than the fact that Benson is super athletic and will challenge shots at the rim. Davidson has a nice jumper, but I don’t think he plays a lot of defense. I guess I’m just partial to defenders. I hope Benson gets to come to training camp. I would rather have him fill a roster spot on the Jazz than a guy like Jeffers. Sorry OJ.
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Gaines
Agreed, but the problem is teams will learn… foul him when he drives to the hoop.
He’s probably going to miss
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Agree
with all your points.
I’m more hesitant about Gaines because of his FT issues but he does bring swagger. Swagger is a good thing.
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swagger is a double edged sword. but swagger is something our team def needs
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 12, 2010 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions
thanks for adding to the discussion Clark!
I think your observations are on point as well. The benson/davidson dynamic is interesting. if benson can hit a 15 foot jumper (and only the coaches would really know this) then I think he’s head and shoulders over davidson.
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