Utah Jazz Trade For Al Jefferson, Moving On Up?
by Basketball John on Jul 13, 2010 11:29 AM MDT
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Wolves to trade Jefferson to Jazz for future 1st rd pick, 1st rd pick from Mem in Brewer trade and a trade exception, Y! Sports has learned.
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UPDATE[Note by Basketball John, 07/13/10 6:51 PM MDT ]
It looks like the KOOF is gone as well. #boombitches takes his show to the great white north of Minnesota. Perhaps a post reflective post on the KOOF is in order?
Well, there you go. The Jazz have acquired Minnesota Timoberwolves forward Al Jefferson for the trade exception acquired from the Carlos Boozer sign and trade and the 2010 protected first-round pick from the Memphis Grizzlies that the Jazz acquired with the Ronnie Brewer trade, and another future first-rounder.
It doesn't look like Tomic is included in the deal. If the Jazz are just trading first-round picks and the TE, then this is a steal.
Jefferson has been on the block since the Wolves re-signed Darko Milicic; yes, that Darko. That's a whole other story. They also just acquired Michael Beasley from the Heat so they have a bit of a logjam of their own in that regard. Also, it was rumored that Jefferson didn't want to move to PG.
Of course Al Jefferson is a player the Jazz could have got in the 2004 draft. He was sandwiched between the Jazz picks of Kris Humphries and Kirk Snyder. Oh, the two Ks, two of the biggest draft mistakes in Jazz history.
The consensus amongst Jazz fans is that we're signing a younger Carlos Boozer. He's an offensive and rebounding machine but severely lacking on the defensive front. If anything, his offensive should be as good, if not better with Deron Williams at the point and in the PF-centric offense of the Jazz. I would have to think at this point you have Memo coming off the bench and Jefferson starting at center. How much of that PF-centric offensive boost would be mitigated though if he moves to C?
As for the defense, I don't know if that's something that can suddenly change. We certainly didn't see a difference in Boozer's years under Sloan's tutelage. Al's length is almost identical to Boozer's. So is he going to help defend the Lakers bigs or other bigs for that matter? Not likely. However, if he's moved to center, then does that improve his defense? He's not going to have to move as much and defend the quicker power forwards in the league.
So why do the Jazz do this and not just re-sign Boozer? Jefferson comes a bit cheaper and is younger. It gives the Jazz the depth they needed since losing Boozer to the Bulls. If you're playing him at center, he could be listed amongst the best in the West. And if he's playing at power forward, he's still up there with the best of them, especially since Boozer and Amar'e are in the east now.
While Jefferson may be Boozer part two (hopefully without more injuries), I don't think you can claim the status quo from the front office with this move. In years past they would have been content to re-sign Matthews, Fesenko, and maybe add another veteran big man (maybe even Collins?) and called it a summer.
Instead, the Jazz are at the least as good of a team as they were last season and perhaps could get a bit better depending on whom they sign to replace Matthews. Yes, Matthews is likely gone, as much as it will pain me. If they were on the fence about bringing back Matthews at that price, this deal will probably seal OMSW's fate as a member of the Jazz.
As it stood just a day ago, we were in serious danger of being worse than last year's team at least in terms of depth. We had just lost Boozer, Korver, and we were possibly going to lose Wesley Matthews. Now we have Jefferson and could be adding another wing with the MLE or bi-annual exception.
This move will put the Jazz over the luxury tax and will still have to fill out the roster with 4 more players. If Matthews is gone, they could bring back Ronnie B (with the bi-annual exception?). I would guess this improves Jeremy Evans' chances at making the team out of camp given that he would be a cheap contract. That leaves two spots open. Fesenko is another logical choice. That puts the team at 12. The Jazz could then use the MLE on someone or sign someone on for the minimum to meet the roster requirements. You also have to figure that the Jazz need to re-sign Gaines or bring on someone else in a 3rd-string PG spot.
With this move the Jazz will have $50M in committed salaries after AK comes off the books in 2011. So instead of having financial flexibility for next off-season, the Jazz are putting that money to use early with Jefferson. There really isn't a marquee guy that available in 2011 outside of Carmelo Anthony so this could be the FO getting a jump on everyone else.
That $50M doesn't include CJ or the KOOF (team options) nor does it include a backup point guard at this point as Ronnie P's contract is up. They could very well be paying the tax again next season. Or we might not even be playing at all in 2011-12 so it might be a moot point.
So if you've been clamoring for change, here's your change whether you like it or not.
I for one welcome Big Al to the Utah Jazz.
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Lol....Congrats BBJ on the fastest post in reaction to a trade ever!
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And much longer than i expected it to be...
Is it safe to assume this was written in advance? ;)
Yeah, he was definitely waiting for the tweet
so he could paste it at the top and then pull the trigger. Basketball John=much more than a moderator.
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm a little sad that it took you this long to realize this. Smiley Face.
But seriously, BBJ is the most prolific Jazz blogger out there. The news is always relevant, he never overreacts about things, something I’m trying to improve at, and he always comes up with sweet titles to posts like “Jazz trade for Al Jefferson- Moving on Up” That’s classic stuff.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
You're too kind
And your $20 is in the mail.
by Basketball John on Jul 13, 2010 7:17 PM MDT up reply actions
You are correct sir
I wrote it up last night when it first broke. There may be some inconsistencies.
by Basketball John on Jul 13, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter what I think of the trade now.
He’s a Jazz man, thus I shall cheer my heart out for him. Jefferson, give us every ounce of your heart and we will never stop backing you. That is all.
GO JAZZ!!
P.S. everyone who was yelling at KOC. You need to recognize that KOC essentially just traded for a 20-10 player…. for 2 first round draft picks and used the trade exception from Boozer’s S&T…… I hope you realize that is highway robbery whether or not you like Jefferson. KOC knows what he’s doin.
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by ForTheLove on Jul 13, 2010 11:35 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
This is true
no more yelling at KOC.
Yet. Until we can’t find a 2-guard and have to start Othyus Jeffers. /hopefully this never ever has to happen
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You
Know Miles will play the 2 guard over Jeffers right? Ak will play SF….
That is alot more likely than Jeffers starting lol.
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I know.
But doesn’t Sloan prefer AK off the bench?
And if we start CJ/AK, then that leaves Hayward backing up AK… and Jeffers or Price to back-up CJ.
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Sloan said
it was a mistake to play AK off the bench at the start of last season. He said this during our crazy run with AK starting at the 3 where we just dominated in Jan and Feb. Anybody remember that first quarter against the Blazers in portland. it was amazing.
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions
It's really not highway robbery if you look at it this way
Al Jefferson for Carlos Boozer and two first round draft picks. I honestly don’t think this is a good deal for the Jazz UNLESS management also steps up and pays Matthews (unlikely I know). Best of luck though.
I'm liking it more...
not sure if its because I just assumed it was happening (and when he’s on the Jazz, you root for him… unless we’re talking about Mark Jackson).
If he plays the C spot, we’re good.
-He’ll bring the offense we would’ve lost with Boozer gone/Okur out
-Maybe Sloan can get him to play some defense?
(I read on twitter some time back that, even with Boozer, the Jazz were a top-10 defensive team that last couple of years)
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I really think he will play C.
I just can’t see Sloan sending Millsap back to the bench at this point.
My guess is:
PF: Millsap, AK, Koof
C: AJ, Memo, Koof
SF: AK, Hayward
SG: CJ, Price?, Jeffers
PG: Ninja, Price, Gaines
Yeah
that 2-guard rotation scares me. Like, a lot.
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I'd want
C: Jefferson, Memo, Koof
Pf: Millsap, Koof, ?
Sf: AK, Evans, ?
Sg: CJ, Hayward
Pg: Williams, Price, Gaines
I think we just need a decent bench SF like Matt Barnes with the MLE and we will be fine. Training camp big man signing too, Rod Benson or Auggie.
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AK & Evans at the 3
means no jump-shooting from there.
5- Jefferson, Koof (Memo when he returns)
4- Millsap, AK, Evans
3- AK, Hayward
2- CJ,
1- Deron, Price, Gaines
I’d go out and sign like Shannon Brown/Roger Mason to play behind CJ, or Matt Barnes (playing Hayward at the 2 then)
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CJ
does enough jump shooting for the Sg and Sf’s positions
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Oh man, I'd love to get Barnes.
But he opted out in order to get more $$… how much do you think he wants?
Let's say all of it.
But then I’d have to ask… if we’re willing to go 5.8 million into lux tax to get Barnes, why not just match on Matthews? I don’t know who I’d rather have, but I’d lean towards Wes simply because he’s younger…
The question is...
does the Jazz FO think Matthews is worth that much money?
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If we are going to pay that for Barnes..
I would just pay for Matthews. However I think the Jazz would be foolish to sign Matthews over Al Harrington if He can be had for the same price.
I am probably in the minority on that.
by davidthecomposer on Jul 13, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I would too
but would the FO? That’s the thing… they have to think that way.
Maybe they’d rather have the experience Barnes brings?
Or maybe they’d rather have Barnes come off the bench so they can start CJ/AK, than have Matthews/CJ start with AK off the bench (or whatever)?
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I don't think
Barnes will cost as much as Matthews.
I’d offer a 3 year 4 million per year deal. If he doesn’t take that.
Just sign Ronnie Brewer for the Bi annual.
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Problem with Ronnie...
if your line-up is Deron, Ronnie, CJ, AK, Jefferson (or Millsap, Jefferson when Millsap is in)… then CJ becomes our shooter to try and spread the floor. That’s not going to work
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I think
You’re worrying about outside shooting more than I am.
We haven’t really been an outside shooting team. We’ve always been a slashing team. I think this plays to our strength on offense.
D-will, Cj, Hayward, and Memo will be enough of an outside threat I think.
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Yeah
but Memo is hurt to start.
And to get the slashers open looks, there needs to be someone to spread the floor. If Brewer & AK are standing on the perimeter, defenders aren’t going to mine going in to crowd the post.
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But it becomes a concern with Jefferson's game, I think
He’s got a good post game, but almost everyone says he doesn’t pass well out of the post. So we need guys to keep defenses honest and keep their defenders from helping down onto Jefferson. A lot of times, when teams doubled Boozer, he was able to find cutters because he’s a pretty gifted passer for a big man. If Jefferson can’t do the same, then Kobe (and others) sagging 15 feet off of Brewer because they know he can’t shoot and doubling Jefferson becomes a bigger problem, if that makes any sense.
There
aren’t really any shooters left in FA. So I’d rather have the best available Sg despite them not shooting well from teh outside.
Ronnie B, Shannon B > OJ or whoever else we have in training camp.
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That being said..
I am a little bit afraid of Brewer coming back. I like the guy, but I have this feeling that Sloan will be starting him at the 2 by December. Then we will have no shooting on the floor at all. I’ve always felt like Sloan didn’t love having to play CJ Miles.
by davidthecomposer on Jul 13, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly
If we’re going to use the MLE on a single player, it should be Matthews. He’s probably the best guy available for that price anyway. However, since we need to fill out the roster, it makes sense to use it for multiple guys, if possible. But yeah, I’d much rather have Matthews as my one player for that price than Barnes.
I know, seriously.
Who would you bring in?
Let's not forget
Ninja can play 2 if he has to. He’s actually pretty effective unless his man is too big on D. But he took Roy down, so I have no problem with it.
by mcjazzman32 on Jul 13, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
but Price & Gaines handling the ball scares me too.
I guess I just don’t really like our options behind our starting guards.
I think we need to add 1 more wing
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That could work
I didn’t see much of that during the SL, which was kinda disappointing
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I know
but I wanted to see how he handled it against “NBA competition” (yes, I’m using that term very loosely).
I guess that’s what the preseason is for.
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If Sloan makes Millsap come off the bench again this year,
I see Millsap demanding a trade…
by caseycheesecake on Jul 13, 2010 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Not saying I believe this, but
Millsap did appear willing to be the backup for Aldridge long term. That is of course if you believe he signed there for any reason other than getting more money out of us. Like I said, not sure I believe it, but he may not demand a trade if he was willing to leave as a backup in the past.
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At least I never liked him and that was before he turned his back on us
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I would agree... was never a big fan of him (before, during, or after)
but I’m probably in the minority there
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Im with ya man...us minority gotta stick together
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Wow I dont think that made much sense gramatically
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Why, what it is that be wrong?
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
From Y!
Jefferson, 25, averaged 17.1 points and 9.3 rebounds last season, but struggled at times while recovering from knee surgery.
17 & 9 while struggling to recover? That’s like 20 & 10 when healthy right?
I guess KFAN has a new favorite to drool over
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Yeah
I guess the question is whether or not he’s back to that level right now, or if it’ll take work during the season.
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I think he's probably almost 100% by now.
He tore his ACL February 2008, I think. He should be able to perform at a higher level once the regular season starts.
Feb 2009
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Mmm... you're right.
Not sure how I figured ’08 considering it was last year right after the Timberwolves finally had a winning month.
Definitely a STEAL!
Thank you Minnesota!!!
Al Jefferson is a premium big. Repeat a premium.
Move Jefferson to the C spot vastly improves the interior defense (as compared to Okur).
I’ve already called the Jazz will be one of the top 3 teams out of the West.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/13/al-jefferson-to-utah-jazz/
(bascially agrees with my verdict)
The one two punch of Millsap and Jefferson will not only be a lethal combo but exciting to watch. (I hated watching Boozer’s finess and shying away play when things got tough)
Hm...
Jefferson has his flaws, especially as a poor passer and a questionable defender. That said, he’s a 25-year-old who already has two 20-10 seasons under his belt. He’s a plus rebounder (vital in today’s smaller NBA) and a crafty, high-volume scorer. Teams travel the world to find pivots like Jefferson. When you have one, you don’t cough it up for future draft picks of dubious value. (I say “dubious value” because with Jefferson at age 25 and Deron Williams at age 26, those Jazz first-round picks will be in the 20s.)
Boozer was a better passer than he was ever given credit for, so it will take some work for Williams and Jefferson to get a flow between them. But it’ll come, and the Jazz will be challenging for the top contender spot behind the Lakers in the West for the next few years.
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I didn't like Boozer
I think everyone knows that.
But he was a very good passer. Until AK got major playing time again the interior passing kind of plummeted when Boozer sat down.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
Doesn't play D
But he averages about 1.2 blocks, that’s much more defense than Boozer or Memo ever played. With he and Millsap in the front court it could be a tough defensive lineup.
by darkcoupon on Jul 13, 2010 11:47 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
The reply is that Boozer had more steals...
Boozer had that amazing swat when guys were about to take the ball up. Though the difference in blocks is greater than the difference in steals.
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Also there is no way to account for the difference in number of shots altered
It may be that Jefferson’s increased length and jumping ability doesn’t allow as many easy buckets down low and causes a lower shooting percentage among the other teams bigs. Had to compare the offensive ratings and shooting percentages of opponents when Boozer and Al have played for different teams. By mid season though we’ll know.
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions
*hard
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
Swats vs. Blocks
But blocks sends a message to the opposition team. They will think twice when driving into the lane. No team respected the Jazz interior defense and ahtletic teams would rip the Jazz apart with slashing driving moves which produced easy lay ups or dunks. (Okur and Boozer were jokes) No one could/would contest the shots. Millsap is the lone exception. Now with Jefferson in with Millsap, teams will respect the interior. Leave the steals to the guards and small forwards. The bigs protect the interior, a power forward better at steals than blocks is basically a sissy.
haha...
Your sissy remark reminds me Sir Charles comment on Amar’e stoudemire. “What do you call a PF that gets 7 rebounds a game. A small forward.”
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
SG/SF
Pick up Shannon Brown and Ronnie Brewer and we are set
I dont understand why people are so high on Shannon Brown
yeah he has amazing dunks but that’s pretty much it
Well...
He can play 1 or 2 which is kind of nice. I agree that he wouldn’t be my first choice, but I see why some might like him.
by davidthecomposer on Jul 13, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Because
he’s cheaper than Matthews. That’s about all I’ve got ATM
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He can't
shoot from the outside so I fail to see why you’re ok with Brown but not okay with brewer.
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I'm not okay with either
unless all we want is cheap.
I’d prefer Roger Mason, personally.
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Mason blows
He burned out in SA even with Parker and Ginobli getting injured all the time. No thanks.
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He's a 38% shooter from downtown
42% 2 years ago (30 mpg)
Last year (20 mpg, 33%) was an aberration
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I don't
really want an inferior 2 guard just because he can get 3s.
Ronnie B a nd Shannon Brown are both better even if they can’t hit the outside J.
That’s my opinion though.
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Q: Why Shannon Brown?
A: Just to stick it to the Lakers. He has become a fan fav there and he knows their system. We could probably get him to take out Odom’s knees too
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2-guard...
while we’re talking about Ronnie, who’s wants to revisit the Devin Brown era?
Or how about the Aleksandar “Sasha” Pavlovic era?
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or the Kirk Snyder era?
Hayward’s the real deal though. Great pick. At a generous 6’9" he has great length and proved he plays defense during the Summer league.
He slashes to the basket, shoots threes, passes the ball, plays D.
Just a all around good guy with good solid skill sets. Very smooth.
Hayward
offensively, fine.
Defensively, he’s going to struggle guarding 2-guards.
And the catch-and-shoot isn’t really his thing, which our offense seems to call for.
How about Raja Bell? Could we draw him back?
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I disagree
Hayward is going to be able to hang with 2 guards just fine. Seriously, I think he will be 100% fine playing Sg.
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I don't see it
he’s not fast enough, or athletic enough.
He’s smart, yes… but hanging with Kobe or Roy is going to be really hard for him.
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We'll see
I’m not sold on him playing defense at the 2.
Offensively, he’ll be fine… Sloan’s system doesn’t have much difference between 2s & 3s.
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AK
will be playing the bigger name 2gs most of the time.
I’m telling you, I really think Hayward is quick enough and athletic enough to hang with the 2 guards on defense.
Matthews was never extremely athletic and he was able to do it well. Hayward has the height advantage on Matthews.
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That's why I call for a Brewer bring back
Brewer is the best perimeter defender closest the Jazz can acquire. And in my opinion, he doesn’t have to score. He has a set role and he excelled at it.
I used to think like that
He is not extrremely fast, but from what I saw, he is really quite quick. He is definitely quicker that Matthews, and we all know how good of a defender Wes is.
Also, I thought that he showed some good skills at coming off picks and hitting a jump shot. He would also opt to pass off of the pick which is a nice wrinkle that I have really only seen Andre do with any regularity.
by davidthecomposer on Jul 13, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Please no to Raja
he’s too old. Not as good as he was when he was here the first time.
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They were doing everything they could to make a deal possible until the Jazz appeared…
I want Brewer back
It didn’t feel right when he left and it would feel so right to have him back. Didn’t he average over 10 a game when he left? I wanna say like 14 a game right?
Im still bitter at the Blazers for taking Matthews
but I would love to have Ronnie B back. It would make D-Will very happy, he already knows our system, Jerry loves his hustle, and I really miss his ugly shooting motion. Watching him make a bucket with a shot like that gives me hope.
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Seriously, I know I'm in the minority
But I don’t even want Matthews back, especially if we get Brewer back. Matthews won’t improve in Portlant, and sure maybe Matthews is an inferior outside shooter, but he’s a superior inside player, will average more points, play the same kind of defense, and have the same hustle with more experience. We’re fine without Matthews. Our 3 point shooting will be minimal again, but it always was anyways.
by mcjazzman32 on Jul 13, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Er meant to say
Matthews is a superior outside shoot, but inferior inside player
by mcjazzman32 on Jul 13, 2010 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm with you!
I really want Brewer back. He did average around 10 pg/game but he was efficient shooting close to 50% from the field. He was given a role and he did a wonderful job. the 1.6 steals he averaged was 4th best in the league. He rarely turns the ball over, he moves without the ball to create easy shots, and he plays tough defense. It really hurt bad when the Jazz dealt him like that. To have him back would complete the team.
Locke just had a stat up on Twitter
Boozer had 21% of his possessions on post-ups.
Jefferson? 56%
Boozer is a better passer, so that is good too.
Jefferson not so much. And then if you don’t have shooters on the court, double-teams will come to him more. And with everyone crowding the paint, the slashers/cutters won’t have much space to operate either… provided Jefferson can hit them with a pass.
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I wouldn't read too much into it
Jefferson was playing in a system that needed to post him up that much. Jazz system will incorporate him differently, just like Boozer.
by mcjazzman32 on Jul 13, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
floor spacing will be a problem if we can't get some outside shooting
just look how the lakers played us in the playoffs (not this past season, but the one before that when memo and cj were hurt).
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 13, 2010 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Where are you going to get a decent outside shooter?
You’re saying Roger Mason but he is vastly inferior to Brewer and Brown. I don’t understand it.
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Inferior on defense maybe
but he’s a better outside shooter than either of them.
We still also have a trade exception or 2 if we want to look at that option
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I'd
Want barnes for his defense and Vet mentality. He’s not an amazing outside shooter though.
Butler maybe? I dunno.
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True on Barnes
a bit thrown off cuz he’s jacked up 200+ the last 3 seasons
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Ugh
He’d be better than Mason if he can be more efficient with his shots…
I still worry about having a volume shooter at the SG position.
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Wonder what Karl Malone’s possesions were, or Shaq for the matter.
PF’s need to post up and pound it in to demoralize the opposition defense. PF’s staying outside and even shooting 3s does not help spacing. Pound it in, get offensive rebounds, put backs is what the Jazz need. D. Will will either take the outside shots or coordinate it so that there is another easy option outside.
SG options
I dont know too much about stats but I know that I want a younger guy that hustles and gives his all. Seems to me that is best for Jerry’s system. I dont like the thought of signing an older guy unless he is one of the best in the league and can really help us in the short term. To those of you who worry about signing young guys because of inexperience…look at the OKC Thunder last year. Youngest team in the league but they had a great season. I want to build this Jazz team for the long run.
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We still need a shooter
This is great. Now, I hope they go after Al Harrington if he’s available.
Also, I would seriously consider signing Allen Iverson to a 1-year contract. Nobody wants him and he’s desperate to come back – so I bet we could sign him cheap. We are in desperate need of a shooter and he can shoot.
I know there is a risk in this, but I think it’s worth a shot.
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Nor
Harrington. He’s a on/off guy, takes too many shots, and has no defense.
Look where Harrington was playing
In Golden State and New York that is what you do is take too many shots and not play defense. I really think the guy is talented and if he is put into a system he could be effective.
He
might be the best available for what the jazz need at the 2 guard though.
A shooter and a Vet.
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Harrington
is 6’9. He’s not a 2-guard in any sense.
He’s a F… either a 3, or a 4 that shoots too many treys.
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
My bad
At least that Means Cj can move to the 2 guard and he is decent enough at outside shooting.
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Ah true
that we could do.
If Harrington was willing to come off the bench behind AK (Hayward at the 2, I guess)…
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yes, If you are signing Harrington
you are basically saying CJ is the 2. You are also either bringing harrington off the bench at the 3/4 or bringing AK off the bench. I still think he would be a HUGE asset on a structured team.
by davidthecomposer on Jul 13, 2010 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions
rethink
I do agree somewhat. Harrington at the 3 behind AK isn’t a bad idea at all.
Yep
and it wouldn’t take Harrington long to figure out that if he starts playing out of the offense, Sloan has no problem benching him for the next 6 or 7 games.
Just ask Stevenson. Or Giricek. Or bad Miles.
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haha bad CJ
but seriously, I really believe that with the addition of Harrington the Jazz have a strong chance at being #2 in the West. At that point you are one serious Laker injury away from the Finals.
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Not
on washed up selfish players like Iverson.
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True
Jefferson was a risk worth taking.
Iverson not so much.
If we are going back to guys that haven’t had a good season in years, how about Jerry Stackhouse?
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Don't see a viable option yet as a SG
The best player for now would be Barnes for me. Length, size, plays tough.
If we don’t have a good option, I would just play Hayward and develop him now. He will be the outside scoring option (Hornacek).
I just feel like the rug is about to be taken out from under us.
We are already over the cap by 2 million with only 9 players signed. Is it beyond KOC to pull some Millsap trade to save money?
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by davidthecomposer on Jul 13, 2010 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions
It's a real possibility.
especially AK mid season. makes me sick. It may that the Jazz need to go 20-2 to start the season or the team gets blown up midseason to save money.
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions
"it may be" *
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions
agree
Millsap is untouchable. More likely Okur.
who would want okur given his recent injury?
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I is not like Okur was the most Athletic big man in the league.
that wasn’t his game. I bet he comes back at almost the same level. Maybe he will be better with having to rehab and work harder than normal on his conditioning.
by davidthecomposer on Jul 13, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
but at this moment, no one trades for him. And if the Jazz are trying to get back under, do they risk waiting till the season and hoping Okur comes back strong? Or do they do something now?
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No one
is trading for Okur right now. Maybe if he comes back strong. Maybe.
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Sheist...
I didn’t want Chandler in the West unless WE could get him…
Chandler
has failed without the CP3 easy lob alley oops. I’m not worried about him.
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions
right...
I’m just saying i don’t care if he is in the west
I’m not afraid of him is what I meant.
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions
True and Dallas doesn't have any good passing guards...
…they’ve only got Jason Kidd.
Some reason
Even after this trade, I’m not worried about Dallas. Can’t grasp exactly why but the adjective ‘old’ comes to my mind first…
Eddie House
is available…..
Maybe we could get him for cheap? He can hit outside.
Larry Hughes?
Jamaal Tinsley?
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Please no Larry....
They have websites dedicated to this guys’ shooting percentages
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions
If we're willing to take those attitudes...
why not Allen Iverson?
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by chicagorilla on Jul 13, 2010 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Iverson is locker room cancer
It’s been proven over and over and over and over and over…
Allen
Iverson is washed up and has a much worse attitude than any of these guys.
He’s done dude. done.
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I don't have a huge problem with Iverson's attitude
but dude is like the definition of a streaky volume shooter
by davidthecomposer on Jul 13, 2010 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions
I actually really like Eddie House
and I wouldn’t mind seeing him here.
How much would he cost, do you think?
I'm
Guessing but 3-6 mill of the MLE.
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I'm just
Going down the list of Vets with a somewhat decent 3point %.
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I ran into him at the grocery store on Saturday
I thought about asking him to come play this year… Bring back Stock too.
Brewer is the answer
Bring Brewer back!!
I agree.
If we wanna spread the defense, just have the 3-man Jefferson, Millsap, and Okur. Okur can stay outside, forcing a big man out of the key, and Jefferson and Millsap can muscle out anyone else.
That
only works on offense. On defense they’d have a smaller lineup and our big lineup couldn’t keep up with them. Milsap isn’t quick enough to guard Sfs.
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Exactly
Brewer can exploit the double teams of either Jefferson and Millsap and cut through the seams for easy buckets.
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seriously
so much relief that the management is moving in the right direction. After losing Boozer, Krover, and potentially Matthews, things didn’t look so good. I’m pretty excited now.
Also
Eddie House, he who has the proclivity of making eight successive plinkos would be great in the SLC!
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Cheap
and decent 3rd string PF…..
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But I mean...
shouldn’t we be focusing more on figuring out what to do for a FIRST string SG?
yes!
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by Alexandria VA on Jul 13, 2010 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I guess
Amundson could be the back up PF…..
Which would push Ak to SF and CJ to SG.
I dunno….Amundson could probably be signed for the Biannual or less. I don’t think that signing would interfere with a Sg signing.
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not to be a broken record, but
I really think the Jazz are looking at CJ as the 2
Hayward is the backup 2
by davidthecomposer on Jul 13, 2010 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
I've heard this rumor for a week or so
I dont think the Jazz are really trying for him anymore though now that we have Al Jefferson. Its just Admunson’s agent throwing around a few names so that his client can have more exposure. He’s realizing that the window is closing for Amundson to get a good contract. I wouldnt worry too much about this.
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I dont think I heard a single word my Biology professor said this morning
I dont usually get on this at school but I knew the Al trade would be announced and I couldnt resist. Now what did I miss this past half hour coming back home from school?
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Jazz
are trying to get louis amundson.
We have been debating what 2 guard to get. Names like Brewer, Mason, Harrington, and Eddie House hav ebeen brought up.
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Thanks
I was able to browse through the new comments by now. I really dont think the Jazz are going after Amundson. Read my above comment.
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If they do
I wouldn’t care. He’ll be cheap and is a decent backup.
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Raja Bell to the Lakers?
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5375672
This would take Raja out of our discussion of SGs and would potentially mean the end of Shannon Brown in LA. I wouldnt mind signing Brown. He knows the Lakers system and I think could harbor bad feelings towards them that he could release this playoffs when it seems like fate we always meet.
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Brown
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I dont care what "many" say
Ronnie B cant shoot either and we’re most likely not going to get OMSW back we might as well get someone who can give us an edge (at least mentally) on the Lakers. As I’ve said before he knows and has been guarding Kobe in practices for a few years now. I think he hustles so I think he’s a great option.
Then again…thats just me and what do i know, right FTL?
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I would
Take brown over a few guys. I’m just sayin alot of people here want us to get someone with an outside shot.
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That would be me,
I’m sorry.
I’m probably wrong about this anyways
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we trust and respect you more than many others on this blog. Im just stating my opinion…obviously I dont know much either.
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Good to know
that “alot of people here want us to get someone with an outside shot” fit me really well too, though.
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I'm
agreeing with you now. We need an outside shooter.
I disagree about hayward as a 2 though :)
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Well
at least we agree on something.
That’s a start, right?
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How sweet
I think you guys just shared “a moment”
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Shannon is a decent outside shooter
He shot well for the Lakers in the 2009 regular season and the playoffs, but in January 2010, he injured his right thumb pretty badly. He played the rest of the season with it, but it affected his shooting and ballhandling (admittedly his ballhandling wasn’t very good to start with).
As for Jefferson, all I can say as a Laker fan is…
by The Dude Abides on Jul 13, 2010 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions
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Comments are great too. Learning alot. I’m glad the Jazz did something. Al Jeffs seems to be a great pick up at the moment.
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I really like this move
PF is such an important part of the Jazz’ system. The size of the contract concerns me a little, but I’d much rather spend here than at SG. Just know that it’s like a sucker punch every time I think of letting Matthews walk, but I just can’t rationalize keeping him. If we matched, we’d be forced to trade AK before the trade deadline for cap space and we’d be forced to give up assets to do so. That makes the Matthews contract so much more expensive.
Man
They have alot of money.
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Why does everyone say Brewer's a great option
Gets steals. Mediocre defensively otherwise.
Was much, much worse last year than he had been the previous 2. I think we’re all forgetting that he wasn’t playing well at all when he was traded.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
MAYBE
we are all hoping Ronnie B will return to his previous form. Especially now that he is back with the Jazz after being gone a while, he will work even harder and be better :)
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He's
cheap…
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and that's about all you can say
I know you agree with me, and I’m sure everyone’s tired of me ranting. But it seems the SG options are:
a) Get someone mediocre or worse for cheap
or
b) Get someone decent who will probably cost the entire midlevel exception (especially with this FA market and the cap money still available to various teams).
If we spend the entire midlevel exception on someone like Barnes or Harrington or (dear Zeus almighty, the horror) Allen Iverson, I will absolutely riot. I may eat my own sock.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
Thats why I wear sandals during the summer....
so if the Jazz off-season ever frustrates me enough, I at least can eat clean socks.
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His
feet stink. So the rest of us suffer though.
Tard.
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Sometimes a little humor really lightens the mood
Just trying to help out any way I can.
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I agree
If we are going to sign someone for the MLE it should be Matthews.
However, if we only had to use part of the MLE on Barnes or Harrington… I’d take it.
If A.I. ends up on the team… I will riot with you.
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Iverson? Really? Just let him fade into obscurity
Why is that whenever Chicagorilla says something on here, its the most absurdly ridiculous thing ever?
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lol
Wait… am I supposed to laugh at that or feel insulted? ;)
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Well is it true?
I dont know whether to laugh or feel bad
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its Insider only, so I can’t read it, but the free bit…
OK, let’s start right from the top: Would you trade Carlos Boozer for Al Jefferson?
You’d at least have to think about it. Jefferson is three years younger and had better numbers over the past three seasons. He can play center, which Boozer cannot, which allows the Jazz to paper over Mehmet Okur’s expected absence and move Andrei Kirilenko up to power forward in stretches, where he’s more effective anyway.
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I can copy and paste the article and send it to you if you’d like. Should I just post it here? Maybe a fanshot?
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If you could send it to me, that'd be awesome
as for posting it here… I don’t know if the rules allow for that or not…
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No, don't copy and paste the whole thing.
If you want to send it to him, I don’t have control over that but it’s taboo to post the whole thing.
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Thats what I was guessing
Just wanted to make sure
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My favorite part (and what all Jazz fans are most worried about)
The Jazz, however, are the big story here. They’ve kept the window open on the possibility of the Deron Williams era producing a conference championship, as they’ve managed to come away from Boozer’s free agency none the worse for it.
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LETS BRING HIM BACK 4 BACKDOOR CUTS AND DUNKS!
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Thats hot
Oh how I miss him. I forgot until I saw this pic….
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i hope there is more news today from Mr Miller
another deal or two would be nice
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Was sup SIANA
You gotta be the only Tongan in Cali that like’s the Jazz, Everybody I know down there HATES the Jazz.
i like watching team basketball
i guess dass why
by UtonganKidInCali on Jul 13, 2010 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions
+ da wife stole her away from da fakers so dat makes 2 of us
by UtonganKidInCali on Jul 13, 2010 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Throwing out names...
how about James Jones?
He missed half of last season to injury, but is a FA for now.
He’s a career 40% shooter from downtown (and used to play for the SSOL Suns).
He doesn’t do much else for the boxscore, but there is that.
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
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If he is cheap
If we could sign him and say a defenisve SG/SF I would be happier about it.
Brewer and Jones?
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
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Who did James Jones play for last season?
Miami Heat? Or did he at least for them at some time in the recent past?
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What
Do you think about Eddie House? He could start at Sg and has an outside shot and he’s a playoff vet.
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
House
I guess he’d kinda be like an older James Jones, eh?
It’d be interesting at the least
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Question:
How silly do you think Korver feels now leaving the Jazz for the Bulls? I know we didn’t offer anything but he could have waited for us to offer something.
He was worried about Hayward but now he has to deal with JJ Reddick…..
Personally, I’d rather compete with the Rookie.
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Are you talking about THIS James Jones???
The kid looks like Lupe Fiasco. I’d bet the women would go gaga over him just like they did for Ashton…err, I mean Kyle Korver. More pink jersey sales!
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I remember playing with him on the Heat on NBA 2K9
and at least on there he was clutch for me. Pretty sweet shot. I’d be fine signing him.
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funny that that pic is on his nba profile
by UtonganKidInCali on Jul 13, 2010 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Matthews
I know this would never happen, BUT lets say matthews is excited about the Jazz landing Jefferson and wants to stay. Can he accept a MLE contract from the Jazz and take less money, or is he now obligated (idk if anyone could be obligated to take $35 mil) to take portlands offer if the Jazz don’t match?
He's signed the contract
I think he’s stuck with it
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
master plan
I will somewhow convice the media to make portland think that the Jazz are absolutely determined to sign me as a restricted free agent no matter what.
It will trick Portland into making me a toxic offer that they “know” the Jazz will match.
BUT THEY WON’T
Jazz get to screw over portland and I become rich, double win
yeh sucky contracts right?
just drop me the signing bonus and im good
by UtonganKidInCali on Jul 13, 2010 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions
As time goes by
As the week passes I’m starting to like letting Wes go and bringing Brewer back. We still have shooters they are just streaky. Korver has been streaky too. I can’t wait for DWill to Brewer ally-oop! When does the season start again.
Wesley
I think the Jazz should bite the bullet and pay Matthews because they will probably end up spending 3 or 4 million a year on someone else who is older and can’t shoot the 3 or defend as well. The Jazz have very few reliable 3 point shooters at this point. If we lose Matthews it makes our offense more vanilla because if we put say Brewer in there, the defenses will just ignore him because they know he can’t shoot the 3. Matthews seems to have all of Brewers attributes (for the most part), but in a younger package and with the important addition of a solid 3 point shot and good FT shooting. I hope the Jazz can find some way to match the Portland offer. I still think Matthews has upside, as well, which is kind of an ignored factor in a lot of the posts I’m reading.
Everyone talks about milsap’s improvement without noting that he is developing SF skills. The guys is bale to face the hoops at 15-18 feet (and without a ball fake) put the ball on the floor and get to the hoop. Whatch as he begins to consistnetly hit that 18 footer.
He’s becoming a 3.5.
Who is else is a 3.5? = Andre Kirilenko
The Jazz will not be starting a SF and a PF next season. They will be starting tow Forwards. Have fun matching up with that.
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