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Raja Bell is showing you how many championships he believes he will win in Utah.
Last offseason, we talked about how many changes were coming and expected to see the opt out of one Carlos Boozer followed by Millsap's rise to startingdom and the front office having a little cap space to mess around with. The rest of the offseason and season we were teased with trade rumors and offers and I feel like many Jazz fans just wanted to see change, because the status quo wasn't going to get us very far (far= past the 2nd round of the playoffs).
This offseason started off with the Jazz not doing much of anything other than watching players walk out the door. I will admit that after Portland made a toxic offer: part deux to Wesley Matthews, I was feeling down about the offseason. And I am one of the Jazz fans that has wanted to see what Millsap and Fesenko could do with more touches and minutes for a season and a half. I guess I would rather see a Jazz team exceed expectations than fail to meet them, when they lose in the first or second round of the playoffs.
But in the last 2 days, that has all changed. This team can actually get the 2nd seed in the West instead of just talking about competing for it. That wasn't true the last two seasons, as much as we pretended that it was.
The significance of acquiring Al Jefferson
I am a hypocrite. I overreacted and wondered what in the hell the Jazz were thinking when the rumors about Al Jefferson surfaced. I didn't get it then. But Jefferson will be so much more than Boozer's replacement. Watch this youtube video mix of Al Jefferson highlights to understand what I am about to tell you. Jefferson is much, much longer than Carlos Boozer. Al Jefferson can play a true center in the Jazz system, while Boozer couldn't. The Jazz are going to be able to play Millsap and Jefferson together at the 4 and 5 spots and it will be their best lineup, not just a patchwork group thrown together because the team didn't have a true center.
If you watched that youtube video, you may have noticed that Jefferson plays close to the rim offensively. Almost all of his shots come within 10 feet of the basket. He can back down his man and then turn around and dunk on them. I know that highlight videos are hard to trust, because they only target the good, but just the fact that Jefferson can back down a guy like Joakim Noah or Yao Ming and dunk ON them, is impressive. If Boozer ever dunked on a real big man, he required a running start to do so. As Shums pointed out to me, "Boozer plays below the rim, Jefferson plays at the rim." And the only center that actually plays above it, is probably Dwight Howard. Jefferson and Millsap not only CAN play together, but they will be good playing together. Both crash the boards, especially offensively, and Millsap's quickness and ability to attack the rim will compliment Jefferson's true "back to the basket" game.
And that's the most genius thing about the Jazz acquiring Jefferson: it placates almost any type of Jazz fan, except for @LostTacoVendor. Go follow him on Twitter to see what I mean. If you were a Millsap fan and hated Boozer being in the way of his starting and development, then you will most likely get to see him start and get touches. And if you preferred Boozer and feel like the Jazz MUST have a 20-10 guy, then you should be satisfied with Jefferson. If it turns out that the Jazz use Jefferson as a power forward and Millsap is again pushed to the bench, it may not be for the best of the team. But I expect to see Millsap and Jefferson play a lot of minutes together like the first scenario suggests.
Raja Bell clotheslined Kobe again by signing with Utah
Two seasons after Raja Bell left Utah, the Jazz made the Western Conference Finals and were one defensive shooting guard away from competing with the San Antonio Spurs. If you remember, it was Manu Ginobili who did most of the surgical work on the Jazz's defense that playoff series, especially late in games. The Jazz had mostly a helpless Derek Fisher to throw at him. I thought back then that if the Jazz had Raja Bell, they would have a chance at being very competitive in the series, if not having a chance to win it and go to the finals.
Yesterday the Jazz found themselves in a similar situation, desperately needing a shooting guard. Deron Williams, Andrei Kirilenko, Paul Millsap and Al Jefferson make up a pretty nice starting four, but they were really missing the guy who could come in and guard a Kobe Bryant or a Brandon Roy on a nightly basis . I love CJ Miles' improvement, but he isn't a great defender yet. Wesley Matthews is that defender and outside shooter, but Portland's second toxic offer was going to pull him away. Bell is the perfect response and fits three needs for the team immediately:
1. Perimeter Defense- do you know why Kobe wanted him on the Lakers? Kobe didn't want to have to try to score on him. It's why the Lakers recruited Ron Artest the year before. I am being mostly tongue in cheek, but Bell is that tough of a defender.
2. Shooting- Raja Bell has topped 37% from the 3 point line the last 3 seasons. For his career, he is a 41% three point shooter, better than Kyle Korver, better than Reggie Miller, better than Jeff Hornacek. The last time Raja Bell shot under 35% from the 3 point line? His rookie year, about 10 years ago.
3. Veteran leadership- How long have we been asking for this as Jazz fans? Since Derek Fisher left. Fisher talked about championship aspirations from day one and it rubbed off on the team. I hated Fisher at the starting shooting guard spot that year, but his toughness and "know-how" were a huge impact on the team, even if unmeasurable. Bell will have the same impact. He is very, very smart and well-spoken. When he talks and breaks down the game, it is hard not to listen to him.
I know that some Jazz fans, and especially Yucca Man were hoping that the Jazz could find a way to retain Wesley Matthews' services, but it just isn't going to happen. I was one of the Jazz fans who thought he should be the number one offseason priority, not Carlos Boozer. But in a way, I prefer Bell being here. I love Matthews and will always be one of his biggest fans, but you can only get so far with a group of all 25 and under year olds. Look at the Thunder. They are young and athletic and exciting, but they lack one more person to sort of elevate them mentally. Maybe a better example is the Trailblazers. Injury has mostly done them in the last few seasons, but many thought they would be a top 2 team in the Western Conference by now, 3 years ago. They lack veteran know how, mostly. Bell is going to give us that, along with great defense and great 3 point shooting. At least for the next 2 or so seasons, Bell is the better fit for the Jazz than Matthews. And he will cost $4 million less this year when you factor in the luxury tax.
This is the best team we have had since Deron Williams has been here and maybe since 99
I don't want to be blasphemous by putting this team up with any Stockton-Malone Jazz team, but overall the talent is better. And unlike the team with Boozer, Okur and Millsap as the main bigs, this is a TEAM, that fits together and has more versatility. If the Jazz resign Fesenko, they will have the starting pieces and depth. Shooters? Bell, CJ, Dwill, Okur, and Hayward can all shoot and make the 3 with consistency. Height? Okur, Jefferson and Fesenko will make up the best crop of centers the Jazz have had since Eaton wore the green, gold, and purple. The Jazz plan on bringing Fesenko back and you won't find a better backup center for cheaper money. Trust me. Length? Ak, Evans, Miles, Jefferson, and big Fess are all long. The Jazz should always have someone who can guard guys like Gasol or Kevin Durant or Lamar Odom. Leaders? Deron and Bell are going to do most of the leading along with Sloan. And if Al Jefferson is half as serious as he seems about playing for a contender, he is going to be motivated and hungry. We have depth at every position and every need filled. After we lock up Fesenko, barring some unforeseen offer from the Portland Trailblazers, we will have Deron, Bell, CJ, AK, Millsap, Jefferson, Okur, Hayward, Fesenko, and Price locked and loaded. Then we can sign Jeremy Evans, Sundiata Gaines and one more minimum contract player. Or who knows? Maybe the Jazz have one more ace up their sleeve in free agency.
The Bottom line is that this is a team that can actually, in reality, challenge for the 2nd spot in the Western Conference. At least it's more likely than the previous 4 years. And I'm not so sure they can't give the Los Angeles Lakers a run for their money. And if they can't beat them, at least they can take a forearm to their collective faces.
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Al always, Clark...
You have articulated the big ball of thoughts in my head, and done so far better than I could.
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great post Clark. i’m in complete agreement with TJF.
anyone who watches Big Al’s YouTube highlights can see how different his game is to Boozer’s. it’s a back to the basket kind of post game we don’t see much anymore. it will be very cool to see how Sloan incorporates Al’s skill set at the 5 into the offense. i can’t get over the kind of flexibility the Jazz could have in the front court and especially when Memo get’s healthy. in the past 30 years — we haven’t had anything like it.
add in Raja’s leadership, etc., etc. and on paper this team looks like it could be very, very interesting. i hope it all meshes like it could.
backup pg
resign fesenko and acquire a backup pg,
i’d take a look at bouldin, not sure gaines is a fit on this team.
I agree that is a real weakness
The team is looking solid, but I’ really just thinking how much better would the team be if we had Maynor still…. money issues aside :) Price doesn’t convince me and neither does Gaines, but not sure if a better backup is available for next to nothing…
I totally agree with both of you
I think our last piece is finding a better backup PG
Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it.
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Price
I like Price’s energy and defense as Deron’s backup. His biggest weakness is his lack of play making ability, but this can be minimized if he plays alongside AK and/or Hayward. Honestly, this team has all the pieces but health is going to be a big concern, with Jefferson, Bell, AK, and Okur all recovering from injury or injury prone.
good points
This does sum things up nicely for how things have been going lately as a Jazz fan. I feel like Boozer was a good player, and the Jazz were pretty good with him at the 4. Jefferson is a kind of nice because he can probably play the 5 about as well as Okur (they are close to the same size, but I’m not sure I’m familiar enough with Okur’s defense to say who would be the better defender at the 5 between Okur and Jefferson). I think the Jazz would be stronger with Okur coming off the bench, even if Okur seems a bit expensive to be a non starter. Sure it woudl be great to have a Dwight Howard/Yao Ming/Bynum type of guy to stick at center, but the reality is that those guys are almost impossible to get. Jefferson and Bell were good acquisitions and with some luck they will flourish with the Jazz for the next few years. I agree that the team should be good enough to finish in the top 4 or 5 in the west. They have a real chance to be #2, but it’s also possible that the team is slow out of the gate with the integration of Jefferson and Okur’s injury, etc.
My favorite part of the clip...
is Rasheed Wallace’s expression when AJ puts an unorthodox shot in over him at 1:33.
about al jeff playing at the rim
according to hoopdata, 44% of his shots last year came from outside 10 feet. his fg% for shots outside 10 feet is 35% (compared to 62% inside 10 feet). is this cause for concern?
that was then...
1) as the primary scorer on a bad team, he did what he had to do—probably no other good options at times
2) he was coming off an injury which could have affected his mobility for a time (even if just mentally)
3) my main concern is getting him the time and practice to adjust to the Jazz’s offense—motion, passing, cutting—if can get that down, he won’t feel the need to shoot less than high-percentage shots
Do
they have post-february data? They say hitting the year mark after ACL recovery is when you really start to get confidence back in your knee.
by scrantonicity33 on Jul 15, 2010 7:59 AM MDT up reply actions
march and april
march: 42% of shots coming from outside 10 ft. on 40.6% shooting
april (which was 5 games): 50% of shots coming from outside 10 ft. on 38% shooting
Interesting.
It’s definitely something to be concerned about but hopefully D-Will and continuity in an offensive system (he has had a few different systems the past few years with McHale and Rambis) will lead to more efficiency.
by scrantonicity33 on Jul 15, 2010 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Locke commented about this in his post yesterday.
He mentioned that from the film he saw, Al was generally chasing and reaching for bad passes going into those shots. Deron will put the ball right where it needs to be. I think that will help a ton.
I was wondering yesterday
why we hadn’t talked about signing Raja Bell more on here. Great post!
Just read it now, missed it last night
that’s what I get for living on the East coast.
When I read Kobe was recruiting Raja, I thought “Why doesn’t he sign with the Jazz?” and then realized how well he would fit our needs. If this is really a done deal, I feel WAY less terrible about losing OMSW.
This.
Got me very excited. I have a feeling that Evans is gonna contribute more than any of us expect, our diamond in the rough this year.
Leery of declaring better TEAM chemistry just yet
The previous 3-4 years had little of this whirlwind change of personnel, so the team chemistry had plenty of time to develop. Whether you liked Boozer or not, there’s no denying that DWill had the pick and roll timing with him down pat.
On another subject, I can’t help but think the Jazz liked Jefferson based on how he played against the Jazz. The Timberwolves were such a hard team to play mainly because of Al Jeff. Following that philosophy several years ago, the Jazz managed to pick up one of the all time worst Jazz players ever – John Amaechi. He was a regular Jazz-killer.
Amaechi...
…averaged 7.9 ppg the prior to coming to the Jazz in 21 mpg. Hard to compare or link the two situations.
Glad we have Bell
But I’m still a little upset about the Matthews situation. I just read a statement by him where he said he would have resigned with the Jazz if they had given him a fair offer, but the Jazz never offered him anything. Instead they waited for the Blazers to set the market for him. Even then he said he thought for sure the Jazz would match. Bell might be better in the short run, but Matthews is younger. Will we be looking at Matthews in a few years wondering why we ever let him get away, the same way we looked at Bell when he was with the Suns?
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Siler's Twitter
Wesley Matthews charges Jazz never made him an offer, but team was told from beginning it would take max midlevel to re-sign him. Jazz wanted to talk about three- and four-year contract options. Why would they start bidding at the ceiling of what could be offered? So they told Wes that if he wanted max midlevel, he’d have to go out and get it and they’d decide about matching. Greg Miller was incredibly gracious to Wes, saying, “I’m really happy for him and for his family and I think it’s a great success story.”
by BigIslandBound on Jul 15, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions
I have a different take...
Just speculating, but here’s how I see it. Matthews is very loyal and appreciative of the opportunity he had with the Jazz. He would have been very happy to continue with the Jazz.
His comments are not complaints, but rather just making it clear to Jazz fans that it was not his intention to skip town at the first opportunity that came up.
the thing is
players are controlled a lot by their agents. His agent would have looked for another deal regardless and sure the Jazz might have offered 4 years for 15 mill or something like that but how could he turn down a 5 year 32 million deal.
Remember Siler is reporting Matthews’ agent told the Jazz the bidding would start at the full MLE.
by scrantonicity33 on Jul 15, 2010 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Good Insight
I’d rather look at it that way, wish him luck, and move forward :)
Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it.
-Unknown
I thought you were starting a new way of agreeing
kind of like saying ‘This’. lol.
by BigIslandBound on Jul 15, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
That actually could have worked since it's far enough down
But my finger just slipped off the ’ key and hit the enter key.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Let's try that again
That’s what I was thinking as well, which is why I’m upset the Jazz didn’t at least make an offer. I know his agent was asking for the full MLE, but that’s what agents are supposed to do. The Jazz should have made on offer similar to what they’re paying CJ, 4 years 16 million, and then put the ball in Matthews court to see if he’d except. However, signing Bell does take some of the sting away from losing him.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Bench
We are still going to need a backup SG. KOC will obviously be reluctant to spend more money than he has to, but I’m not sure if a minimum contract player would be up to the task.
I'm not sure that
Raja isn’t going to be the back up 2…
by davidthecomposer on Jul 15, 2010 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions
What's wrong with...
…CJ and Raja? With Hayward even backing them up?
quick question
we are already in the lux tax do we contend for a championship if we match portland on matthews?
by UtonganKidInCali on Jul 15, 2010 9:32 AM MDT reply actions
re: AJ
I was genuinely pleased as I listened to Locke last night—he had Simmons on (local Minny radio/writer/broadcaster). I don’t think you could have heard a more glowing report about Al’s character and work ethic. He just kept saying what a great kid he is.
Seriously the report was just glowing, just glowing.
Excited!
by Juan B on Jul 15, 2010 9:34 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Quality player
AJ always played hard, tried, never slacked. Hard worker, good character, and loyal. He was in a bad situation in Minnesota, never garnered the respect he deserved. But true aficinados of basketball know his true value and what he can bring to his team.
Wes Matthews
Does not deserve that kind of contract yet. The Jazz were wise not to match such an offer. I agree completely with the poster. Raja Bell brings veteran leadership and MENTAL toughness to the team. Mental toughness is probably the most important factor in a team’s success especially in the playoffs. Matthews sputtered in the playoffs, missing open crucial 3s when it mattered the most. I don’t blame him. He was only a rookie. The point of the matter is, the Jazz got Bell for half the money. Albeit, he’s a bit aged but what he brings to the Jazz; his attitude, leadership, toughness, is tremendous. Now like the poster, I would like to see Fes have increased productivity this coming season. He is probably one of the key players for the Jazz to truely suceed. If he can be a defensive presence down low, the Jazz have a very very tough interior (Jefferson, Okur, Fes), and a chance to hold on to that 2nd spot the West.
The Jazz will have length, hustle and defensive powress this season. AK (6’9") at the SF spot, Bell playing the aggressive D at SG, Jefferson gettting his average of 1.6 blocks/game. D. Will’s 6’3" frame as a point. If only Fes can be a inside force (defensive wise), the Jazz have a great team.
"After we lock up Fesenko, barring some unforeseen offer from the Portland Trailblazers"
I lol’d.
"OK, let’s do this. Let’s play the basketball." - Fes
Thank you Pojo... rec'd!
I’ve been waiting to see what (the hell) the Jazz were doing this offseason. The signings and drft picks, like most expressed, seemed dubious. Almost helter skelter in the way the players were being selected or let go.
Your synopsis of the whole picture gives so much more understanding and provides what the team this season is about and able to accomplish. I understand more how these players will play together and what they bring to the team.
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Good Post
I agree Bell will give us the tough Vet that we need. He will put up the same numbers as OMSW at a cheaper price and will provide leadership. He has the Same 3 percentage as Korver, plus he plays D and he isn’t scared of Kobe and the lakers. I think he will make us more of a threat to the Lakers. So this is the way I see the Jazz
PG Williams, Price, Sunny D
SG Bell, Hayward
SF AK, CJ
PF Millsap, Evans
C Big Al, Memo, Fes
I think AK plays a lot of 4 until Memo is Healthy. Then I see Memo playing the 6th man in a 3 man big rotation with Millsap and Big Al. Hopefully Fes will improve, he should get time when Memo is out. I think we are now a very flexible team. On the wing with CJ, Bell, and Hayward all able to play both the 2 and the 3. Ak can also defend 2s at times , but will also be able to help defend at the 3 and 4. I also could see Williams playing off the ball a lot more when Hayward is in. We can play big. We can play small. We can put shooters out there. We can play physical. I guess now I have a reason to hope, we can play in June.
I think CJ is going to start
KOC keeps talking about him as a part of the temas “core”
I also think that eventually Millsap is going back to the bench. The only way I see this not happening is if Memo is alot worse when he comes back.
I see it either like this
PG DWill, price, (3rd – possibly Gaines)
SG CJ, Bell, Hayward
SF AK, HAyward
PF Millsap (possibly this whole season or until Okur is 100%) AK, Evans (or fill-in big)
C AJ, Memo, (3rd – possibly Fes)
or
PG- same as above
SG – Bell, Hayward
SF – CJ, AK
PF – Millsap, AK, Evans
C – Al Jefferson, Okur, 3rd
I really don’t think that AK is going to be back with the team. It is possible that he gets traded this year, though I think there will be a mutual parting after this season. Too bad because I love AK.
by davidthecomposer on Jul 15, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Last night
when I got a text from FTL telling me that the Jazz were going to sign Raja Bell I flipped out. Not in a happy way but I was disappointed that we weren’t going to sign a younger SG. I wanted something similar to the Thunder for the Jazz with a young team that will only get better over the years. I did NOT want a veteran to sign.
However, I eventually went to sleep and when I woke up this morning I realized that it is a good thing. I loved Raja when he was here a few years ago and was sad to see him leave. He spurned the Lakers, which I love. He can shoot the 3, which is of huge importance. He is a hustler, which is the case for most of the Jazz players now and that should help us out alot.
I forgive KOC now and I will try to be less critical of him from now on. I am really excited for this season to start…..GO JAZZ!!!!!!
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He just never
listens to me the first time around :D
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
That video you posted
is WOW!!!!!
All the big men in that vid is getting schooled Al Jeferson has some GREAT moves in the low post.
He’s gonna be an All Star in the Jazz Offense.
Im loving the FO and the Millers more and more, There showing the Fans that they are dedicated to WIN a championship
Clark
You are awesome.
’nough said.
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
I watched this vid yesterday.
The one thing that I really love about Jefferson’s game…
is his pump fake. That thing is nasty. Players don’t use that nearly enough anymore, or at least not effectivly.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
That's one thing that gets Kobe so many free throws.
Sometimes he pump fakes 3 or 4 times before actually shooting. He usually gets his man to bite.
In Jefferson’s case, he uses it very effectively to get around his man and get to the rim.
Sending Raja away was a very dark day for me.
Well the sun rises again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can’t say that enough.
OMSW for RAJA…… Though talented, omsw is no RAJA,,,, yet!
Welcome BACK Raj!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The new kid is one hella player as well. He may not be the big we desired to obtain, he plays quite large.
CIAO Koof best to ya. Potential does not equate to delivery.
I see jefferson as being another too small, but he too can play very big! I’m excited as he kicked our buts four times last season. The pups would not have had the W’s they did have without him.
Today it seems almost obvious that players are no longer interested in having a career that will forge them in bronze in front of an arena. Part of me understands, part of me does not. Boozer made it crystal clear he was not interested enough, even Williams will depart given the right bait.
As a side note. Booze will again get some mystery injury, he will repeat his potential but he will again fail because he is a “too” selfish of a person. There is nothing wrong with the desire to take care of ones self and family, but since most of his fans can’t even imagine his payroll at his age, if ever, he is doomed to being another spark in the NBA. Is there really a difference between 12 and 15 million dollars a year? Or for that matter 5 or 6 mill over a twenty year career? Stockton should be the pattern, but sadly is not. That goes for the entirety of professional sports.
As a fan I can but continue to be selfish and hope Millsap and Williams will reconsider those outside offers and go for the Bronze! Sap is more than good! But he does need to get better, maybe with Boozer gone for good, he too will be inspired and improve upon his talents and performance. I’m sure he is feeling the pressure and I’ve no doubt of his desire to do so. I think today that he is more than willing to go for the bronze! I could be wrong, I hope that I am not.
Would Koby go to the cavs by decision? I’d bet big money he would not. Raj made a very big statement by standing Koby up.
Today I’m feeling better about the team we will field in month and a half. Sloan can at least go to work for earnest TODAY. Will see what come from it soon.
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