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The SLC Dunk Manifesto, 2012 edition

Jerry wants YOU to be excellent to each other.

A new year and a new season requires a new Manifesto. Or at least an updated one.

The SLC Dunk community continues to grow, and that means new site visitors, lurkers who are venturing out into commenting and posting for the first time, and fans of other team fishing for news. Like any long-running website, SLC Dunk has a few unwritten rules and customs that might be unusual to newcomers. We're trying to make this the best Jazz fan site out there, but a website is only as good as its community. We want you all to be a part of that.

With this as our goal (and with the approval of our gentle host Basketball John), I'd like to lay out a few of the principles that have helped make this site what it is, and what it will be.

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1. Be excellent to each other.

This is the first item because it's the most important. The Internet is an incredible resource for lots of reasons -- in our case, for the way it helps us unite as Jazz fans no matter where we are (and we have more than a few far-flung members on the site). Unfortunately, the Internet can also make people act like idiots. You don't need me to tell you this.

If there is one main reason SLC Dunk has succeeded in the way it has (aside from the incredible commitment of Basketball John and the rest of the community), it's because we genuinely like and respect one another. We make jokes, we poke fun at other teams and players, but we do not stand for trolls, personal insults, or anything disrespectful. (If you have to wonder if something you're about to post qualifies as "disrespectful," it probably is.)

There are sites for that kind of behavior between fans, and SLC Dunk is not one of them.

Whether you're a Jazz fan or a fan of an opposing team, a newbie or a lurker or a long-time site member, we want everyone to feel comfortable interacting with the SLC Dunk writers and with the community. That can't happen if we're anything less than excellent to each other. As Jazz fans, we understand better than anyone how beautiful good teamwork can be.

So. Think before you post. Maybe even try to read what you're typing aloud. Make sure what you're saying is adding to the discourse. In short, be excellent to each other.

2. Bring the knowledge.

Being a sports fan isn't always a rational thing. But we try to be as rational in our analysis as possible. That means we try to back it up with stats, game examples, facts and sources. We encourage everyone at SLC Dunk to do the same.

In our striving to be excellent to each other, it doesn't mean we always have to agree. On the contrary, our best analysis comes when we are willing to have our ideas, theories and breakdowns poked and prodded by the community. We've all become better writers and better fans that way.

I've been told by users that this aspect of SLC Dunk is actually a little intimidating -- that the fact that we "know our stuff" discourages them from posting or commenting. I hope this isn't the case. I love finding out I'm wrong if someone else can convince me of the fact. I think we all appreciate that. If you've got a strong opinion and you can back it up, I don't care if you've made 5 comments or 5,000. We want to hear it.

But do your homework. Don't just say "Player X sucks" without any analysis. Don't just say "We should trade for Player Y!" without breaking down the salary numbers. Make your points clear and simple. And DEFINITELY don't stop being excellent to each other just because you disagree.

3. If you're going to be funny, do not not be funny.

I'm stealing this from the old Deadspin Commentist Manifesto. In short, it means don't try too hard to make a joke. Most of the humor of blogging and commenting comes naturally, through interplay between users, and not because someone sets up some elaborate joke or insult.

Again: if you have to take a second to think about whether or not to post it...don't post it.

4. Don't overreact.

It's easy as fans to live and die with every made or missed shot. But every game is 48 minutes, every season is 82 games (except this one), every year is a clean slate, and we all have the rest of our lives to cheer for our Jazz.

We definitely want to be here to let everyone blow off frustration, to be passionate and express themselves. But it's really not the end of the world if the refs blow a call, or if we miss a possible game-winner, or if the Lakers beat us again. (Okay... maybe on the last one.) Point is, don't let your frustration get carried away to the point that you violate Item 1 or 2.

5. Love this Jazz.

We are here as Jazz fans. If you're going to get so pessimistic and down on the team that you feel like everything they do is wrong, you need to take a greater appreciation for all the things they do right. The Jazz play team basketball in an era of primadonnas and me-first players. They do more with less than any team in the league. They compete in one of the smallest markets in the country, and they do it every year. Yes, we can get angry when things go badly. But we're here because we love a unique team. Let's show it.

I hope this helps people understand where SLC Dunk is coming from as a community. I also hope it encourages those who want to join the conversation to do so. We're stoked to have you, and we promise to respect you and your opinion if you'll do the same.

If you want to get in touch with BBJ or any of the SLC Dunk crew directly, we're pretty easy to find. Our e-mail addresses should be at the bottom of every page on the site. In addition, most of the site regulars are on Twitter and communicate there daily. A brief list, which should lead you to others:

Basketball John: @slcdunk

clarkpojo: @jazzingitup

UtesFan89: @UtesFan89

AllThatJazzBasketball: @AllThatAmar

moni: @moni__

Shums: @theshums

Lastly, thanks to every site member, lurker, commenter, poster and Jazz fan who comes to SLC Dunk. I think it's the best Jazz site on the web, and that's because of you. Let's keep it up.

Go Jazz!

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great job on the PA d---wad theory link

you did a crap job on the manifesto though! 4 out of 5 bearded lunatics wouldn’t read this in their isolated wilderness shacks!

DO IT AGAIN!

ps. guys, you can also spell check your posts (I think), we should endeavour to do this as well.

pps. great job for realsies

ppps. prob need to explain in the downbeat #3 is replaced with #8 for a real reason, BBJ isn’t bad at math

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 2, 2010 8:56 AM MDT reply actions  

OMSW = Oh my Sweet Wesley

That’s inconceivable!

Thanks for the decoder ring, Shums. I was in the dark about that one. “The Princess Bride” is a veritable gold mine of quotes around our household, but that one had eluded me.

by Spikedog on Jul 2, 2010 9:00 AM MDT reply actions  

Very well done, Shums.

I would also encourage people to get involved in the Twitter discussions. Its the best source for all Jazz/ NBA news and a good way to spread the word about SLC Dunk.

Completely off subject, but my phone is ringing and the number is “Unavailable”. This usually means someone from the Jazz is trying to sell me a ticket package. Hahaha.

by prodigal punk on Jul 2, 2010 9:01 AM MDT reply actions  

Good write up!

Another rule that should be followed.

Never question my opinions. They are always right.

Never debate me. I will always win.

Never try to correct me. I am always right.

Other then that….happy blogging!!

"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.

"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."

by Matt_Grbac on Jul 2, 2010 9:27 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

no no, it's good. I appreciate it. I wish I knew how to edit my posts . . .

I went to bed at around 4 am, and woke up at 5 because of a fire alarm in the building. lovely. i need more coffee.

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 2, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

coffee?

I thought Jazz fans weren’t allowed to drink coffee!!!

why does my breath smell like hot garbage?

by chicagorilla on Jul 2, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

me thinks

this might the BYU of sports blogs! humor is relevant gentlemen. and it’s only a game.

peace owwwt.

Utah moves to the Pac-10! from Semper Ute on Vimeo.

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by jazzin'jimbo on Jul 2, 2010 10:07 AM MDT reply actions  

Great Post

I wish I would have read something like this when I first joined. I have felt a little discouraged sharing my opinion in the past, so I hope there can be opportunity for people to share differing ideas and not get bashed (i.e. if someone wants Boozer to stay).

Another thing to include would be about Fan Posts. I’m not super familiar with any set guidelines for writing them, but I didn’t even notice the links to them until a few months after joining…

Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it.
-Unknown

by Rog. on Jul 2, 2010 11:05 AM MDT reply actions  

SLC dunk rocks

I love NBA.com but sometimes its just a little more mundane than a mailman’s route. ESPN is full of trolls and everywhere else like the Trib and Deseret is good but basically they recite each other word for word so you only need one…I choose Trib. But even the Trib is guarded in regards to our Jazz.. SLC dunk seems to be the most up to date, credible and interesting fan friendly site. Good job fellas.

by hustla801 on Jul 2, 2010 11:12 AM MDT reply actions  

Love this Post

Being new as a commenter but not a reader it is refreshing to see a post like this. I also want to thank all involved who do this site. It is the best for Jazz fans and I was welcomed with open arms yesterday when I began commenting. Thanks

"I've always said that John Stockton is one of the five best players I ever played against."

-- former NBA star and current TNT studio host Charles Barkley

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by magness12 on Jul 2, 2010 11:17 AM MDT reply actions  

Quick!!

Spam these guys… LOL!

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by Alpha6 on Jul 2, 2010 11:38 AM MDT reply actions  

muhahaha

I have a hotmail account. I only get spam! I am immune to your spam!

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 2, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

lol

Follow me on twitter @JD23UT

by JD23UT on Jul 2, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

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64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Jul 2, 2010 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

can you draw me as a Ninja!

Its funny I never understood that ninja reference. I am pretty sure I have violated all of those rules at some point over the past 2 yrs. For that I apologize. And for the new slcdunkers, just know that all of us who post on slcdunk have at one point been in your shoes and have been intimidated to post. I think I lurked for months before ever commenting or joining a game thread. So don’t be afraid to jump in because that is how you learn whether your ideas are valid and if your opinions are shared by other fans. I love this site because the people here are passionate about the jazz and really back up their stuff. I don’t mind a differing opinion because the open debate really allows all of us to bring our 2 cents. So lets keep this site awesome.

by jake1ar on Jul 2, 2010 11:51 AM MDT reply actions  

Not all of us ;)

I’ve been following BBJ’s blog since before he was on SBNation. So posting here was never an issue.

That said yeah… I’m pretty sure I’ve violated the rules… especially the funny one (I think I am, I think most would disagree with that) and the don’t overreact (just see me after we drafted Hayward).

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 2, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

NINJA

So, I live in Chicago – and there is this homeless guy I always see that wears a pin that say’s, “Momon = Eternal Ninja”.

I must be way out of the loop, but I do not understand the whole Ninja concept. Is it a Utah thing? Mormon thing?

(note that I am LDS)

why does my breath smell like hot garbage?

by chicagorilla on Jul 2, 2010 12:01 PM MDT reply actions  

No.

It’s an asian thing. Baha.

For the Love of the Game

Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!

"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).

MonSTARZ forever!

by ForTheLove on Jul 2, 2010 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's some kind of coffee drinkin Jazz fan thing....

LOL!!

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64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Jul 2, 2010 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey Shums

heart

’nough said.

For the Love of the Game

Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!

"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).

MonSTARZ forever!

by ForTheLove on Jul 2, 2010 12:34 PM MDT reply actions  

Is this some secret love language between you two?

lol

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64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Official draft Koa Misi bus -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Jul 2, 2010 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think it's like a mad lib

Hey (proper noun) (body part) ’nough said

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 2, 2010 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

lolol

For the Love of the Game

Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!

"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).

MonSTARZ forever!

by ForTheLove on Jul 2, 2010 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice set of ground rules

Enjoy the blog — great information and discussion. Have been reading for a few months and thought I’d try and join in. Thanks.

by jazzed on Jul 3, 2010 1:15 AM MDT reply actions  

Very glad to have you.

Please do jump in, fresh voices are much appreciated :)

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
SLCDunk.com: Bringing you ninjas, The KOOFs and anti-jinxes since 2008.

by Shums on Jul 3, 2010 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Answer key

It took me a long time to figure out what all those acronyms and phrases refer to. And now you go posting the answers for everyone! It’s going to be hard to maintain a secret society if you insist on being so hospitable.

by El Aguacil on Jul 3, 2010 10:54 AM MDT reply actions  

... what secret society?

/discreetly hides ceremonial robes

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?
SLCDunk.com: Bringing you ninjas, The KOOFs and anti-jinxes since 2008.

by Shums on Jul 3, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

reminds me

my blindfold fell off during the unblinking eye ceremony, i think i have to do it again

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 3, 2010 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wish to propose "In Fesenko Years" (IFY) as a SLCDunk term

to denote either an abstraction of a corporeal time frame, a hypothetical range within time, or a rationally impossible length. It is like Dog years (what the heck are dog years anyway?), but are used in the context of unrealistic expections, the time needed for a return on an investment, or simply how long it will take a project center to become a rotation player.

E.g. “Gasol was parked in the paint for like 8 seconds on that last play!” “That’s 3 days In Fesenko Years.”

E.g. “I couldn’t wait to finish that exam, I felt like it took half a Fesenko Year to finish that last section!”

E.g. “Wow! Did you see how quickly D-Will got that shot up to beat the buzzer!!” “Yeah, but it’s less impressive when you convert it to Fesenko years.”

Fesenko years can be the punch line of it’s own joke, like the metric system.

Fesenko years can go back in time as well. There are many irregularities in the Fesenko calendar. Well, the whole concept of Fesenkian time, really.

Fesenko Standard Time is always 15 minutes before being in the doghouse and/or cut from the team.

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Sep 14, 2010 11:08 PM MDT reply actions  

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