Jazz Will Get A Sign And Trade For Carlos Boozer
by Basketball John on Jul 8, 2010 2:09 PM MDT
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Multiple sources reporting... From the Trib,
Terms of the deal are still being discussed, but the Jazz will give the Bulls a protected second round draft pick, and in turn will receive a trade exception in the amount of Boozer's salary for the first year of his contract.
Boozer's trade exception, for the amount of money it's worth, is significant because it potentially enables Utah to trade for a player who's able to step in and contribute immediately without having to trade a player in return.
This is significant because it will be equal to Boozer's first-year salary, about $16M. So the Jazz could take on salary in a trade without having to give anyone up.
Just as that was happening, David Lee is heading to the Warriors as part of another sign and trade for Anthony Randolph and Azubuike. He's getting a 6-year deal worth $13M per. Seems pretty steep for Lee.
So will the Jazz use the trade exception(s)? They have to don't they given that they gave up a second-rounder and pushed hard for it/ Who are they going to get?
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YESSSSSSSS
This is almost bigger than draft picks. You know moves are going to happen now if the jazz are going to give up a second round pick so they can have this. This is almost better than the S&T moves for players.
MAN this gets better and better
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Exactly.
The question now becomes, who are the Jazz targeting? $16 million is a lot of money to work with and it could mean multiple key players.
Hopefully
at least an overpaid defensive bigman…maybe a decent SF/SG too?
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It's actually for $13.7 million.
That’s how much Boozer will earn in the first year of his contract so that’s how much they get in a trade exception. But it’s still more than enough to sign a big name player. Too bad Lee’s not an option.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Also
This means we probably won’t have to give up AK’s contract this season!!!!
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David West or Okafor
NoLa is looking to clear money.
This is great news.
It sucks about David Lee — I like him. But I don’t know how that would’ve worked out anyway. I think both he and Millsap would be expecting to start at PF.
So who do we target? I mean, who’s left?
Hmm
SI is reporting that Al Harrington is interested in Utah, Nets, and Clippers…..would you guys sign him?
Another option…..the Wolves looking to get rid of Al Jefferson…..he would supply offense….but may be another injury case
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jul 8, 2010 2:30 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
I like harrington
I think they both are overpaid though…
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I agree
But at this point overpaying is the only option.
It would be nice to get good value but teams like Heat, Knicks, and Bulls ruin fair market value!
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jul 8, 2010 2:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
nope. not for me.
17 ppg @ 43 fg% and taking 5.7 threes a game . . . career rebounding avg slight higher than harpring . . . guy doesn’t set screens or work in a structured 1/2 court offense.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jul 8, 2010 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions
i think jefferson would flourish if he had some real teammates
and it would be more difficult for minnesota to beat us 3 times per year without him.
by bigdog'sshades on Jul 8, 2010 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
If you can't beat 'em...
…invite ’em to join you!
I’d definitely be down with Jefferson.
LOL, yeah, imagine that..?
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I would
Give up the harpring exception right now for Beasley if the Heat are really looking to ship him for cap space.
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Can
Utah use more than one trade exception at once? I think they have like a 6 or 7 million TPE from last year’s harpring deal as well…
Yes
we have 13 million from Boozer.
6.5 million from Harpring.
2.7 from brewer.
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all this must mean...
lebron is coming to utah!
by bigdog'sshades on Jul 8, 2010 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions
I know... pessimism
I’m kinda afraid its more of a “just in case we decide to target someone” than a “lets go get someone”. I hope I’m wrong, but thats what I’m worried about ATM
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better
than getting nothing though at this point.
by scrantonicity33 on Jul 8, 2010 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh
I agree with this.
I’m just saying, sitting and expecting a corresponding move might be too optimistic right now
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... how about Joe Johnson?
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How come?
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i think koc must be learning toward doing something with it...
to give up a second rounder for it. you could say, “yeah, but it’s just a second rounder” until you see what koc has done with those draft picks of the years. aside from trading up for dwill they’re probably his greatest success.
by bigdog'sshades on Jul 8, 2010 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Protected
it could be like the protected 1st rounder we have from Memphis…
seemingly unreachable (top 55-protected, top-56, etc.) and then turns into cash or cash considerations or whatever.
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I'm sorry
but the Jazz have to be planning on using them at some point.
We’ve given up Maynor and a second round pick for 19 million dollars in cap space.
If KOC and the jazz fail to capitalize on using them in some way or at least part of them.
I will be calling for a head on their platter.
For now I’m thinking they havet to be thinking of making a move.
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Sure
they’re good for 7 years. I’m sure we’ll use it at some point.
Maybe even during the trading deadline to add a piece.
But I’m not pinning my hopes on anything right now.
If it happens, good.
If not, then whatever
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7 years?
I thought they were only good for one year and expire after that….
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Is it 1
Maybe I misread.
I’m still thinking trade deadline might be our best shot
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I think it's one man
Cause on twitter the tribune was sayin most of them expire rather than get used.
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Ah, might be that then
not quite sure where I read 7…
In that case, the Harpring one might need to be used soon
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Exactly.
The heat are looking to ship Beasley.
we could acquire him for the Harpring exception straight up I think.
I’d do that in a heart beat.
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Rumors
3-team deal (Hou/Cha/Mia) involving Beasley and more (Jared Jeffries, Tyson Chandler) to help Miami make room for LBJ.
Just saying
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Yea I know
but wouldn’t dumping him to Utah straight up be better than having to do all that?
The Heat get instant contract room. They don’t take any contracts backs. The jazz get a big man.
everyone wins.
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They wouldn't take contracts back anyway
maybe picks, but its Beasley/Jeffries to CHA, and Chandler to HOU
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Rediculious.
The Jazz should be in on that. To grab Chandler or Beasley. Sigh. I’m already bumbed again.
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agreed below - missed this chain
Beasley is worth the risk because of the short-term contract. Utah could be just the place for him to get his head on straight.
Oh, and
Link
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67983/20100708/bobcats_rockets_might_get_into_bosh_to_miami_s&t/
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Beasley's
main problem in Miami was that they weren’t playing him at the 4 position. He’s still a kid and still can be turned into something special. I believe.
If anyone can light a fire under someone it’s Sloan.
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It can also backfire
- pick, wishes he had stayed in college, etc…
Sloan will get on him. Hard.
If Beasley listens, we’re good.
If not, he’s going totally destroy him.
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and his contract
is only a year and we let him go at the end of free agency or trade him.
Wow big gamble for just an exception.
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Sorry if that came out
Snappy. lol
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Not disagreeing
just saying… Sloan can break players.
See DeShawn Stevenson
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For sure
But a venture never taken is a venture never gained either :)
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Deron though
started playing.
Beasley, after the mess in Miami, came out and said (or a friend of his said) he wished he had stayed in college. I figure it’d just be worse under Sloan, who definitely won’t play him if he plays like crap and tries to get by on being the #2 pick
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me too
except for the fact that he seems a little sensitive emotionally. Seems like Sloan would murder his confidence.
by scrantonicity33 on Jul 8, 2010 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Is Yao Ming a good thing for the Jazz?
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Oh, and Lee...
that trade only happens if LBJ doesn’t pick NY.
If he does, maybe we still have a shot at him?
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At this point
how does Lebron not end up in Utah? Am I Right?!
... or Tyson Chandler?
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unfortunately
i think if the jazz would have had interest in Beasley they’d have used the Harpring exemption. Or at least been on the radar as to talks . . .but i agree with FTL that would be a godd low-risk/high-upside move.
Unrelated...
Jermaine to the Celtics.
Haywood back to the Mavs.
Heat have offered Mike Miller 5 years
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Haywood
at 9 million for 5 years… WAYYYY too much. I’m glad the Jazz didn’t get in on that now.
Meh on the other two.
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Mark Cuban
needs a new Dampier contract or he wouldn’t be himself no?
by scrantonicity33 on Jul 8, 2010 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Haywood is OVERPAID
I absolutely think this is one of the worst contracts that was signed. I thought Cuban learned his lesson about over paying centers with Dampier but I guess not
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heat offered mike miller?
apparently they’re willing to go way over the cap if that’s true
by bigdog'sshades on Jul 8, 2010 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Forgot that Thibbedau (SP)
was the coach for the bulls now. What are the chances Boozer becomes a good defender? If he does than that’s a pretty good deal for the Bulls.
boozer
could be part of a good defense because he’s an excellent defensive rebounder. as far as an individual? i doubt it. it would be almost unprecedented to turn a player in to a lock down defender at his age.
by bigdog'sshades on Jul 8, 2010 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Playing alongside Noah will really help him
guy is solid defensively
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My Apologies KOC
yesterday I bashed the KOC for not working out a thing for Booz but this is much better then anything I believe we could of hoped for. Good job KOC…just when I want to push you to the curb you do something amazing. I feel like lloyd christmas when he finds out harry sold the van and got a scooter…and TOTALLY REDEEMED HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!! Now don’t mess up this exeption. Do you guys think korver will be back now
"I've always said that John Stockton is one of the five best players I ever played against."
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The trade exception won't help us sign Korver
It’s only useful in acquiring players through trades. It means once we surpass the salary cap (which we will once we resign Matthews and use our available funds for any other free agents) we have room to get players in trades without having to give up a similar salary.
Remember
The trade exceptions are only good if we use them. If we don’t use them, they don nothing for us.
Oh I know
I hope KOC realizes that as well
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Travis Outlaw as a sixth man...?
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He's getting paid too much
7 million a year
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I think..
this is an excellent pickup for the Nets. I think just like Joe johnson when he left PHX Outlaw will become a great player outside of Portland.
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Utah is a PF dream land
The offense is centered around the PF….why wouldn’t PF’s be lining up to come play with DWill in Sloans’s system.
A guy like Lee could have destroyed….
Al Jefferson in our system would be sick!! I’m talking 24pts 15reb sick (if healthy)
"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.
"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."
by Matt_Grbac on Jul 8, 2010 4:39 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
+10
excellent point. PF’s always come out better here then in many systems. Do you think the wolves would trade K Love at all?
"I've always said that John Stockton is one of the five best players I ever played against."
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What big men are available?
How about Kevin Love, now that the T-Wolves have too many PFs? Beef him a bit and have a versatile center?
What about Luis Scola? Anyway of prying him from the Rockets?
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