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Trade Exceptions

Well, when it's all said and done Boozer did something really nice on the way out of Utah.

He didn't simply sign with the Bulls. He arranged for the Jazz to get a MASSIVE trade exception.

Reading through the comments, I realized there's a bit of confusion about the trade exception rules. So here they are:

1. A trade exception is a right for the Jazz to acquire any player via trade without either actually trading anyone or worrying about salary cap figures (however luxury tax penalties still apply).

So, in an ordinary world the if the Jazz traded for a guy making $15 million, they'd have to give up anywhere between $12-18 million in contracts (assuming both teams are over the salary cap). With a trade exception the Jazz can take on an extra player and contract without giving anything up.

2. They expire in 1 year.

This means they have until December to use the exception for Harpring/Maynor, February for the one from Ronnie B., and now next July for the one from Boozer.

3. Trade exceptions cannot be combined

The Jazz cannot acquire a player with a $9 million salary by combining both the Harpring/Maynor and Ronnie B. exceptions. However, the exception can be used on more than 1 player (say 3 players whose salaries total $16 million via the Boozer trade exception).

4. Why are they useful? Why would another team give up a quality player without getting anything in return?

See Pau Gasol's miraculous movement from the Grizzlies to the Lakers.

Or another situation: let's say the Jazz want Andrew Bogut (I know, I know, you're all sick of me bringing this up—humor me), but the Jazz don't have anyone the Bucks want. But the Bucks do want Al Jefferson (I'm just throwing out names here). But the Wolves are in full rebuilding mode, don't want anyone from the Bucks and either want to cut payroll or to make a move at a free agent—but they can't because right now they're over the cap. (P.S. I know the Wolves are under the cap, I'm just dealing with examples here).

So the Jazz use their exception to get Bogut. The Bucks then get a trade exception (because they didn't acquire anyone from the Jazz). They use the exception to get Jefferson. Now the Wolves have a trade exception (because they acquired nobody). But the Wolves don't use the trade exception—they just wanted to cut payroll. And that's the end of it. 

That's how they work.

Here's my source:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=14923

* P.S. The Bogut scenario is simply an example. There are no rumors about it. I have no inside information. It is simply a total pipe-dream of mine. I use it as an example because of this crazy idea that if it gets mentioned enough maybe the powers-that-be will figure out a way to make it happen. Plus talking specific teams & players is a lot easier to follow than Team A and Player X.

All comments are the opinion of the commenter and not necessarily that of SLC Dunk or SB Nation.

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by ForTheLove on Jul 8, 2010 4:14 PM MDT reply actions  

It's all very exciting really

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by Shi on Jul 8, 2010 4:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Tell me the Jazz are targeting Andrew Bogut.

Tell me the Bucks want Al Jefferson.

Tell me the Wolves want to cut payroll.

Tell me the Bucks are willing to trade Andrew Bogut for the Jazz $16 million trade exception.

Tell me the Wolves are willing to trade Al Jefferson for the Jazz $16 million trade exception.

Tell me this is not a hypothetical.

Tell me this is going to happen.

Tell me.

TELL ME!

by Wilder. on Jul 8, 2010 4:58 PM MDT reply actions  

We can dream

And dreams can become reality

That’s why I keep bringing Bogut up. Maybe, just maybe, if it gets talked about enough it can happen.

Plus, the universe owes me.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jul 8, 2010 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Al Jefferson?

Not worth it.
It’d be like Boozer all over again.

Bogut… that I’m good with.

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by UtesFan89 on Jul 8, 2010 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

This would be amazing!!!!!!!

Im with Wilder tell me this is true

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by magness12 on Jul 8, 2010 5:23 PM MDT reply actions  

Boozer Trade Exemption is based on first year salary (+$100K)

which is supposed to be just over $13M (not $16M unfortunately)

by jazzed on Jul 8, 2010 8:51 PM MDT reply actions  

That's a bummer

I hadn’t heard his first year salary. I just did a quick $80 million/5 years.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jul 8, 2010 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

I had thought the same untill catching it in Trib or DNews

terrific post – makes the trade exemption thing much more understandable – thanks

by jazzed on Jul 9, 2010 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

Bogut >>>>> Jefferson

And the Bucks know it. We’d have to throw in a decent sized fish with that deal. But I’d still do it.

Like, AK and the trade exception for Bogut. That would be tempting for Mil and it would still net cap room for Utah.

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by Dyl on Jul 8, 2010 9:28 PM MDT reply actions  

Is KOC secretly a Ninja?

We’ll see if he can turn these exceptions into Millsaps and Gasols.

I'll make it coach.

by MTN on Jul 8, 2010 9:41 PM MDT reply actions  

That's the dream, dude

That’s the dream.

I got the crap beat out of me in Prov
o one time

by Yucca Man on Jul 9, 2010 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great Post

Thanks Yucca Man!

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by Rog. on Jul 9, 2010 7:52 AM MDT reply actions  

Thank you!

Nice work……

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by Alpha6 on Jul 9, 2010 8:11 AM MDT reply actions  

Optimistic

Really hoping they do something with these. use one them in the very least.

by handlogten on Jul 9, 2010 9:28 AM MDT reply actions  

question..

what does a team lose from giving up a trade exception. Like in this case what enables the bulls to do this and what are they losing from it?

by TBKIII on Jul 9, 2010 11:43 AM MDT reply actions  

The Bulls didn't give up a trade exception

Here’s how it happened:

The Bulls are far, far under the salary cap. So, under NBA rules, they can trade for any player without worrying about what they trade back. The salaries of incoming and outgoing players only have to match when both teams are over the salary cap.

So here’s what happened:

The Bulls decided to sign Boozer as a free agent. They’ve got room under the salary cap, so no problems. But either Boozer or his agent decided to do one last nice thing to the Jazz: to NOT sign as a free agent, but do a sign-and-trade. To get the Jazz something in return.

The Bulls agreed only if they got something extra—something they wouldn’t be able to get from simply signing Boozer as a free agent. So the Jazz also sent a second round pick with the trade.

So the Bulls acquired Boozer and the second round pick via trade, but they did not send anything to the Jazz in return. They could do this because the Boozer’s salary does not put the team over the salary cap.

Because the Jazz traded Boozer and received nothing in return, they are credited with a $13.x million trade exception—in other words, the right to acquire a player(s) via trade from another team whose salaries are up to $13.x million. The trade exception allows the Jazz to do this without trading anything to the other team.

So the Bulls gave up nothing. But they did do the Jazz a huge favor. They only went along with it because the Jazz also gave up the pick and (probably) because either Boozer or his agent insisted on it as a favor to the Jazz.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jul 9, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nothing. they get the conditional 2nd round pick, because the Jazz have to give them SOMETHING for the trade to work.

But mostly it’s just a measure of good faith by the Bulls. Boozer agreed to do it, because it actually benefits him by making his pay increase from year to year go from like 8 to 10.5%. But mostly it was noble of the Bulls to do it. Most teams do, when they have the chance. David Locke mentioned that many teams will agree to play some preseason games at that teams place as a measure of good faith. So the Jazz might play some preseason games at Chicago as a form of repayment.

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by clarkpojo on Jul 9, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Trade Exception

So we have 3 trade exceptions that we can use. We better start using them, because it’s looking like Toronto and Cleveland are going to get some big ones. Seems like a few teams are starting to pick some up that are in the neighborhood of the one we got for Boozer. These trade exceptions are only good if we use them. We better start doing something before others start throwing some out there and we are left with nothing. And with the way this FO seems to work (ie Millsap sit back and see how much he’s worth, Matthews sit back and see how much he’s worth, CJ sit back and see how much he’s worth) I got a feeling these are just going to go to waste.

by P_Dizzle on Jul 9, 2010 2:28 PM MDT reply actions  

ohhh

alright i understand now, thanks

by TBKIII on Jul 11, 2010 4:03 PM MDT reply actions  

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