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No More Lockout News - Trade for Granger


I really hate reading about the greedy and stubborn owners/players in this lockout.  Personally I feel that the players need to fold but that is for another post.  I would much rather focus on problems that the Jazz are going to deal with when or if the season ever starts back up.  If a miracle occurs in the next couple of weeks and they get a deal done there is going to be a frenzy of free-agency and trades to start  the season.

Right now the Jazz really do need to deal with their logjam at PF/C.  I think that the Jazz should look at the future and therefore, need to give time for Kanter and Favors to develop.  Here is the problem as I see it.

Millsap has the work ethic and attitude that we all love.  His jump shot and outside game has improved over the years and I think that offensively he could take over the 3 spot.  However, other 3's in the league are much faster than him and this would make him a significant defensive liability.  If the Jazz decide to keep Millsap I think that we would be better off keeping Millsap at the four and only moving him to the three if the match-ups work.  He really has earned his spot as a starter and I do not feel that it would be fair to put him on the second unit.

At the start of last season Jefferson did not quite gel with the rest of the team, but as the season progressed he started to really be the center of the team by becoming a consistent 20/10 guy.  The problem I see is was this because he is used to this role as being the 1st option on the team (i.e. his role in Minnesota) or was he truly starting to mesh with the rest of the team.  To be honest I feel that the jury would still be out on this question due to the confusion and uproar of last years season.  Jefferson increased the number of blocks for the team average; however he was not a very good pick-and-roll defender.  I am a fan of Jefferson and think that he could be a consistent 20/10 guy; however, for his price and lackadaisical defense I think that he would be expendable.  

Okur has to be one of my favorite players that the Jazz currently have and was really disappointed that he could never come back last year with all of his injuries.  We could really have used his outside shooting that would have spread the floor and created space down low.  Okur could be a great asset to the team by being a mentor to Kanter and with his three-point presence.  The question arises if Memo can really come back from his injuries to the same form he was when he left (hopefully we will be able to better determine this with his play in Europe).  See his stats for his last game here.  However, his contract could also be a hot commodity for teams that may want to free cap space for the Howard/Paul lottery 2012 free agency (depending on the conditions of the new CBA). 

Personally I think that the Jazz should try to try to trade either Jefferson or Millsap for a dominant wing like Danny Granger.  Okur will be a great backup and could still be a commodity for a future trade.   I think that the Pacers really need a PF/C and either Jefferson or Millsap could fit the bill.  By adding either Miles or Bell to the equation  with a possible future draft pick (not the 2012 Golden State pick - too valuable) I think it could work.

This would be the lineup as I see it.

PG - Harris, Watson(?), Burks

SG - Hayward, Burks, Miles/Bell

SF - Granger, Kirilenko(?), Evans/Miles(?)

PF - Millsap/Favors, Kanter, Kirilenko(?)

C - Favors/Jefferson, Okur, Kanter

 

The lineup will depend on the roster; however, either trade would be great.  As you can see I am an advocate of resigning both Watson and Kirilenko (as long as he signs for the right price).   I know that Kirilenko may actually be a roadblock on getting Burks minutes but with his knowledge of the old Jazz system and his defensive and offensive diversity I think resigning him is a no brainier.  Burks could aid in backing up at both guard positions. Whereas, Kirilenko could back up at both forward positions.  Kirilenko and others will have injuries during the season.  Therefore, it will be a huge benefit to have such a deep bench. 

This would be a playoff caliber team that can only get better as we move forward.

Poll
Which of our three veteran big's should we trade?
Millsap
20 votes
Jefferson
36 votes
Okur
19 votes
More than one
10 votes
We should keep them all
8 votes

93 votes | Poll has closed

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I think Millsap is the odd man out, because of his size.

Millsap has all the intangibles you want in a player, but at the end of the day he is still a tweener—either an undersized power forward, or a small forward with significant deficiencies in quickness, ball handling and shooting skills—who should be the anchor for the second team, but who insists on being a starter. That does not bode well for either the chemistry or the performance of the Jazz. The only way I think he stays on the Jazz is if no other team is willing to give value for him, because he is a tweener.

I think the Jazz will be a much better team with a primary big man rotation of Favors, Jefferson and Kanter, than with a primary big man rotation of Favors, Millsap and Kanter.

As far as trading for Granger, my fantasy would be that the Jazz persuade Indiana to trade Granger for Millsap and Miles (not likely to happen), and then, re-sign Watson, Kirilenko and Fesenko. With those moves, the Jazz roster would be the following for 2011-2012:

PG: Harris Watson (Burks)
SG: Hayward Burks Bell
SF: Granger, Kirilenko, Evans
PF: Favors, Kanter (Evans/Kirilenko)
C: Jefferson, Okur, Fesenko

by Fesenko for President on Oct 19, 2011 10:00 AM MDT reply actions  

No on Granger.

Hayward/Miles should be the starting SFs.
Burks starting SG.

Need a PG.

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by ForTheLove on Oct 19, 2011 2:35 PM MDT reply actions  

Harris isn't stayin around long.

Guarantee they go PG high in the one of the next 2 drafts.

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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!

MonSTARZ forever!

by ForTheLove on Oct 19, 2011 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'd be satisfied with different

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Oct 19, 2011 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the read

I don’t want Granger. Basically, he’s the SF version of Al. Volume scorer, poor defender.

To be honest, I would only be in favor of bringing in a true superstar vet should we be able to get one in a Knicks/Melo or Nets/DWill fashion. I have no interest in high paid guys who are second fiddle stars with large contracts.

by Jeffersap on Oct 19, 2011 3:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Granger started out with other skills that he has not fully developed.

As a rookie, his appeal was his all around skill set and game. Because of the bad teams he has been on, he has developed into a ball hog, volume shooter who plays poor defense. The question is whether he can adjust his game if he gets on a better team, kind of like Jefferson is trying to do.

I still might trade for him, if I could get him for Millsap and Miles.

by Fesenko for President on Oct 19, 2011 5:28 PM MDT reply actions  

I'd take Miles

over Granger all day every day with his contract and defense.

For the Love of the Game

Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!

MonSTARZ forever!

by ForTheLove on Oct 19, 2011 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

It would take more than just Millsap or Jefferson to get him from the Pacers.

He’s the franchise player and they are going to try to build around him.

"If you don't let go of my balls I gon fuck you up."
-Thurnis Haley

by Colts Homer on Oct 19, 2011 7:33 PM MDT reply actions  

A trade that interests me would be to trade Millsap and Bell to Houston for Jonny Flynn, Terrence Williams and Jordan Hill.

This is mostly a trade of “addition by subtraction” for the Jazz. Primarily, the benefit of this trade for the Jazz would be to save over $2 mil. per year in salaries for the next two years, and to free up playing time for Favors and Kanter.

Houston would probably do the trade, because Flynn, Williams and Hill are all pretty much superfluous players for Houston as far as their long-range plans, and Houston could pick up some useful, lower cost veteran players in Millsap and Bell.

Flynn (#6), Williams (#11) and Hill (#8) are all lottery picks that have pretty much been busts so far. However, they won’t demand a lot of playing time, and it’s worth taking a flyer on them—you would think they have some degree of talent to be taken that high in the draft in the first place. If any of them turns out to be a serviceable player, that would be a bonus. In the meantime, they provide the Jazz with some more depth at the PG, SG and PF positions for the short term.

If the Jazz could also re-sign Watson ($1 mil.), Kirilenko ($5 mil.) and Fesenko ($1 mil.) to reasonable contracts (at the amounts stated above), the Jazz would have the following team for the 2011-2012 season (if there is a season):

PG: Harris, Watson, Flynn
SG: Hayward, Burks, Williams
SF: Kirilenko, Miles, Evans
PF: Favors, Kanter, Hill
C: Jefferson, Okur, Fesenko

I would then send Evans down to the D-league to play exclusively at SF, to see if he could develop the skills to play that position in the NBA. If he could develop ball-handling, long-range shooting and perimeter defense skills, he could be a monster at the SF position, even with his slight frame.

by Fesenko for President on Nov 5, 2011 8:56 AM MDT reply actions  

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