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   As if you needed any further proof that 95% of this lockout is ego-driven, it was reported yesterday that both sides are just waiting for the other side to pick up the phone and call the other.  Nobody wants to make the first move.  Nobody wants to appear to be weak and give in.

What a joke.  Right now, neither side cares about the season, the fans, and the thousands of employees that will be affected by the lost season.  If that were so, someone would have swallowed their pride and picked up the phone, and get talking again.  What exactly does either side have going on right now that takes priority over getting a deal done? 

That's what this whole thing has been about from the beginning though.  They see each other as necessary evils and don't want to be considered the losers of this whole process.  On one side you have high-powered businessmen and on the other, ultra-competitive athletes.  Who's going to cave first?  That's what each side wants the other to do.

I tweeted last night that we're going to have to come up with some romantic comedy-type hijinks and trick both sides to meeting.  Some other suggested a Parent Trap-type setup.  Whatever works.  Some operative needs to kidnap both and get them in the same room.  Even then, you'd have to make one of them talk first.  Might I suggest Cousin Eddie style kidnapping of both high-level execs and taking them to a family that's not going to have a Christmas this year because mom or dad isn't working because of the lockout? (Please do not kidnap these people or any people) Maybe a Christmas Carol fits as well?

Neither side is going to change.  Lead attorney David Boeis stated that he might pick up the phone on Wednesday.  To that I reply, what the hell are you doing today?

   An AK update.  He has a broken nose and an injured shoulder from his fall.  It's being reported now that he'll be out up to a month.  His agent though reported some conflicting information,

I talked to him about 45 minutes after it happened. He told me he did not suffer a concussion. He said he broke his nose and had some bruises. ... He said to me he was feeling fine the next day and they'd given him a nose job later that day. He said that hurt a little bit, but he expected that he probably would not miss any games. ... I don't know how many days they'll tell him that he has to protect the nose. He's playing his butt off. He's really playing good.

That has agent speak all over it.  "Nothing to see here folks!  Minor injury.  He'll be back in no time."  I hope AK takes the time off that he needs.

  Matt Harpring joining twitter could be the best thing that's ever happened.  He's gone to town on the players for not accepting the latest offer.  He's having twitter fights with David Locke.  He's having an excellent back and forth with Tom Ziller.

My only question is why he's not currently under bigger gag order.  He's an employee of the Jazz and of the NBA.  He's not communicating with players directly, but I can't imagine they want employees saying the stuff he's saying.  However, he is admonishing the players to accept the deal, so maybe they don't care.

  If you have a kid in the Jr. Jazz age-range, then maybe you want to enroll them in Jerry Sloan's Holiday Classic?

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You get a guaranteed three games, a t-shirt, and winners get John Deere tractor trophies.  How can you beat that?

  Tuesday open poll...  What have you been doing with your free time with no NBA?

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Again, I don’t really feel sorry for the players. Get a real job. I definately have no sympathy for the owners. I do feel sorry for those who have lost their jobs over this. As each day goes by, I lose more interest in the NBA. In fact, SLC Dunk is the only site I look at anymore. I just don’t care. And I was a die-hard.

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I have been studying for certification exams, and following college basketball more closely.

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 22, 2011 10:41 AM MST reply actions  

I freaking Love Harpring now more than ever

He is always dropping twitter bombs, what a stud.

Also I still can’t understand why players view all of these system issues as evil, it generally only effects tax paying teams, which there were only 7 of. Also if I were a rank in file player in Cleveland i would have wanted some compensation for Lebrons disloyalty. I don’t think teams should be held hostage by players (ie. Denver, UTAH )

The more I think about what is really sad, about this whole ordeal, is the lack of loyalty in the NBA these days. The owners want to force loyalty, which i am not sure they can. THe players wanted to be treated with respect, but then the players hold entire organizations hostages. People should treat people fairly. They shouldn’t want to hurt each other as much as possible. That why a lot of fans have been fed up with the NBA for a while, they miss the days of class and loyalty. I could go on but i think you get my point.

by Evans Almighty on Nov 22, 2011 11:16 AM MST reply actions  

Harpring implying Locke is a disrespectful putz

That may be the greatest thing ever

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Nov 22, 2011 12:15 PM MST reply actions  

its nice to see someone who actually knows what he is talking about

put Locke in his place. I am so tired of that guy. I seriously wish he would get a job somewhere else and leave. His radio broadcasts are a joke. His “show” is a joke. I really wish he would just leave.

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 22, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Why hate Locke? ( Must be time to start voting on brodcasters ?)

Just curious why you don’t like him. Burn out on his stats and Locke ratings? He seems like a good contrast to a guy like say PK, who only speaks emotions or anything that is impossible to measure in any way. ( or sometimes guys will fixate on just one stat.) If Locke likes or hates a guy at least he has some data to back it up somehow. I only follow the jazz closely, so when he talks about any trade options or match-ups against guys on other teams, I usually think its helpful.

Then again, maybe the only reason I don’t dislike the guy more is because I only catch small parts of his show. Maybe its an acquired distaste…

by Big_B on Nov 22, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I would take Locke everyday over PK.

by neds on Nov 22, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

PK is a buffoon

who has become successful by figuring out how to play people. He is essentially the state’s most successful troll. And he is a troll in every way. He trolls his own show, he trolls when he is interviewing athletes. If you ever meet him in real life, he looks depressed.

As far as the “Locke-hate” I have just heard too many of his radio broadcasts where he tries to take the attention away from the game and onto himself. On his radio show, whenever he interviews an athlete, he always just sucks up to them. And he belittles too many callers.

As far as his numbers, yeah, they are cool, but not many of them are relevant. The ones that I have heard in the past are more anecdotal than relevant.

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 22, 2011 1:54 PM MST up reply actions  

At least we can all agree on PK. The troll comment is spot on.....

Took me awhile to realize that PK wasn’t a complete idiot, he pulls that stuff on purpose.

As for Locke, I have definitely heard him belittle some callers. I think that’s a bit harsh too. Its talk radio, let a guy have an opinion, even if he is totally wrong.

by Big_B on Nov 22, 2011 3:37 PM MST up reply actions  

the thing that makes me laugh about their show

there are actually a few things….

1) that people actually get riled up over PK’s nonsense and call in. Amazing to me that people actually still get punked by that guy.

2) David James clearly grows more bored by the day with PK’s routine. His laughs become more insincere every show. I think he would do well to have a new partner.

3) PK’s trolling has been a big reason why KFAN, though they are the home of the jazz, have slipped to #3 in the market when it comes to ratings. They claim to be number one, but the unbiased numbers indicate otherwise.

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 22, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions  

For me, it's his voice.

I can’t get past the annoying voice long enough to even listen to what he might have to offer.

by SurlyMae on Nov 22, 2011 1:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I have come to appreciate Locke and the hard work he puts in

Initially I couldn’t stand him. I think half of that was just him having the misfortune of following Hot Rod. The other half is his voice. Whether you like him or not, or agree with him or not; you can’t deny that he works hard.

I completely disagree with his decision not to call Kyle Whittingham by the honorific “coach”. Kyle has earned that. So has every other person who coaches*. This is especially true in the middle of the game! It is also a disservice to the viewers who may not realize that “Kyle” is the coach. Off the field Locke can call him whatever he wants, but I feel it is unprofessional on the field during a game.

*Except for Sandusky, he deserves whatever vile, foul things you can think of.

by tyrantking on Nov 22, 2011 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

true

the guy works hard. its just his ego is so big that it rivals Gordon Monson.

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Nov 22, 2011 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Guys seriously

most journalists don’t refer to a coach as “coach”. Certainly not in the NBA, NFL, or MLB where the extremely elite coaching talent is found. A Coach doesn’t deserve a title like that.

Locke is a very good radio personality, and does a good job coming up with relevant, and interesting content for his show. He has one of the most annoying play by play voices I have ever heard, so I just don’t listen to him.

I suspect that 90% of the reason that people don’t like him is because he tends to be short with some callers. I agree that it is the most annoying thing that he does, especially when he isn’t really understanding what the caller is trying to say. Of course, I thin his other qualities make up for those few annoyances.

I actually think PK is pretty funny. Some people don’t seem to understand how deep his humor goes, and how insightful he is at times.

by davidthecomposer on Nov 23, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

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Last night I mended some wool socks. Usually I do that during Jazz games, but last night I had an MNF backdrop, so…pretty much business as usual for me. I’m sure my neighbors are enjoying the lack of yelling and jumping up and down on the floor above their heads, though.

by SurlyMae on Nov 22, 2011 12:16 PM MST reply actions  

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Harpring just got so many bonus points from me lol. Agree with everything he’s saying, and I LOVE that he’s blasting Locke (his radio broadcast of games give me nightmares… I never know the score!), and I also like that he’s dropping bombs on Ziller, who has been a little bit overtly pro player in this whole ordeal. Can’t wait to hear about frysauce on rims once the season starts, lol.

5. Reading, lots and lots of reading, which is nice, because I had a rather large assortment of books that I kept collecting, and this lockout has def provided me with the time to put a large dent in that pile.

I will say though, now that the snowboard season has started, I’m even more pissed about the lockout. Nothing better than a long day of shredding, then chilling at home with some wings watching a game. Both sides need to man up and get this resolved.

Utah>*

by Bebop on Nov 22, 2011 3:39 PM MST reply actions  

1) SAW: NBA Edition.

3) Harpring’s Twitter is endlessly entertaining. And yes, Locke is disrespectful to just about everyone.

5) SKYRIM.

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by Shums on Nov 22, 2011 4:06 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

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I’ m glad Harpring got twitter. He’s a really funny guy. I thought he made the games much more enjoyable to watch last year.

#5. Been going to school in the mornings, work in the afternoon, playing in city league and pickup games almost on a nightly basis. I plan to join 2 more leagues in the winter. What can I say? I love basketball. I just miss watching the Jazz on my DVR after my games, skipping through the commercials so instead I’ve tried paying more attention to the NFL than I have before.

"If you're racist I will attack you with the north." -Abraham Lincoln

by footeperu on Nov 22, 2011 4:11 PM MST reply actions  

I think I jinxed myself

I said how much I love basketball, so I went to go play with a group of guys right after and what happens? I tear a tendon in my thumb going for a steal and now the doctor says I’m going to need surgery on it. Now I’m going to be REALLY bored!

"If you're racist I will attack you with the north." -Abraham Lincoln

by footeperu on Nov 22, 2011 9:17 PM MST up reply actions  

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