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College Players to watch: Small Forwards

Two things to think about before we dive into player profiles. The first, what if the new CBA makes the minimum age to enter the draft 20 (or maybe 2 years of school)? I hate the thought of that. So many great guys won't be able to declare if that's the case.

The second is, what is the Jazz's highest priority, in terms of roster additions? Do we need a new PG? Do we need a go to scorer? Are Burks and Hayward definitely our future SGs? These are questions to ask yourself as you consider who the Jazz need to target. Personally, I want the Jazz to target a go to scorer who is an SF. I think Favors, Burks and Hayward will all be great Robins, but we need a Batman in the scoring department. Those 3 should all be in the solid 18-22 ppg range, but I;m thinking we need the guy who can carry the offense on his back when he needs to.

1. Quincy Miller, SF- Baylor

I like Quincy a lot. Draft Express threw in the comparison of Kevin Durant. This kid is a 6'9" SF who can score in bunches. He is averaging 15.2 per game in only 28 minutes, and he does it efficiently, too. He is averaging 1.46 points per shot, which is excellent, and he gets to the line almost 6 times a game. All great, great signs.His TOs are a bit high- about 1.2 per 14 minutes of play- but that should improve. He seems to be a good rebounder for his position, and his 1.7 assists per game suggests he can pass. His last two games were streaky, but any scorer is going to have games like that.

Draft Express has an interesting bit on him. Essentially he was a young, somewhat cocky basketball player- until he tore his ACL. Forced to miss events like Nike Hoops Summit, he became a student of the game. The torn ACL is obviously a concern, but he seems to be a mature and basketball saavy kid.

Quincy Miller is third on my personal draft board, but first for who I think the Jazz should draft (I think Drummond and Davis are better prospects, but we don't need more PF/Cs) This kid will be a star, if not superstar. Write that down, send yourself an email, remember that. Quincy Miller will be at a bit better than Rudy Gay or Danny Granger, IMO, and just a step or two below Kevin Durant. I believe in this kid. He can be our franchise go to scorer. A foundation of Burks, Hayward, Favors and Kanter with Miller as our SF is a team that is headed to perennial contender status. Right now he's around 6 on most draft boards. Look for him to settle in as the #3 behind Drummond and Davis. Keep a close, close eye on him, because this is who the Jazz need to get, hands down, no questions asked.

2. Harrison Barnes, SF, North Carolina

Hype with a capital H. Look, Harrison can score in isolation, He is having a good season (17.2, 4.8), but nothing earth shattering, especially for a Sophomore. He usually is scoring efficiently. I just can't get as excited about him as I can Miller. I see him as a Luol Deng/Danny Granger hybrid- both are valuable players, but neither are going change your franchise. I love Harrison outside the top 5- I think if a team drafts him in the top 5 they are setting themselves up for disappointment. Not Marvin Williams disappointment, but if they are hoping for another Kevin Durant, Melo or even Rudy Gay they will find they have not drafted that player.

The reason for all my optimism? He doesn't appear to have killer instinct. He'll draw blood, but won't go for the kill. That can hold someone back a lot. With his natural talent he should be rampaging the NCAA. But he's not. Why? I think he's soft, and that's why I don't see superstardom in his future. I'm open to being wrong though. He is well liked by scouts, seems a safe pick. But I do think Miller has more star potential.

3. Terrence Jones, SF- Kentucky

Here's the thing with Jones: my head doesn't believe in him, but the results says I should. There was talk that he would get disinterested in games, that he was a bit of a dough head. His stat line is impressive though (especially when you consider his stacked team): 13.3, 7.3, 2.2.

Besides intangible concerns, I worry that he may end up being a tweener- but if he can be an NBA 3 he has terrific size. He's actually taller than Sap and a couple pounds heavier. If Jones can be his best self I wouldn't mind him, particularly if one of our other young guys can be the #1 scoring option.

All comments are the opinion of the commenter and not necessarily that of SLC Dunk or SB Nation.

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I am a little higher on Barnes than you. He just looks nonchalant while he lights you up. It reminds me of a young Andruw Jones playing center field. He was the best in the business, but it just looked like he never had it in high gear. He always got to balls that he shouldn’t have been able to get to and did it with speed, but it looked like he was barely trying. I watch NC play and I feel the same about Barnes. It seems like he made a few good plays and look at the box score and he has 18 and 5 and it looks like he did it without even breaking a sweat.

I see the Luo Deng and Granger comps as good comps, but to me the guy is Sean Elliott. He can really shoot it, he can get to the basket, he will never be KD, but he will also never be Anthony Randolph. I think he will average 15 points for about 15 years in the league. Maybe make one all star team and always be solid.

Quincy, I think is more of a feast or famine guy. He could end up KD or AR. That said I agree with you. He looks really good to me.

Jones will be solid, but I don’t love his outside stroke and he seems to love it. He can get baskets whenever he wants attacking the hoop, but he ends up settling for Jumpers too much.

by BobbyD31 on Nov 30, 2011 2:32 PM MST reply actions  

If all our young guys reach their potential

then we don’t necessarily need a full blown superstar, as I like to think we do. I look at guys like Allan Houston, Glen Rice, Jerry Stackhouse, Michael Redd—effective, very good wings. Lower “stars” without the super. A collection of those- and really, Burks, Hayward, Barnes, Miller- can make a team work. In today’s NBA environment, teams may find they need to have stacks of 2nd tier talent instead of top tier talent surrounded by scrubs.

Two examples: the Pistons. Overused, so I won’t delve. But also the 1996-97 Heat. Hardaway, MOurning, PJ Brown, Mashburn, Marjle….that collection of talent was very good (59 wins, if I remember right) THey just had the misfortune of running into MJ. But they were a viable team. And our pieces remind me a lot of that

So if we don’t run into a superstar- if we did get Barnes or Miller and they weren’t superstars— I think we could find that Harris, Burks, Hay, Barnes, Favors, and Al would be a very deep and talented team that can carry us deep into the playoffs. Lots of ifs- guys need to fulfill their best case potential—but we Jazz fans at least have reasons to have hope for our team’s future success.

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by Stockton2Malone on Nov 30, 2011 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I am a Syracuse fan

So naturally I will throw out Kris Joseph. He has the potential to be a go to scorer but lacks the aggresiveness.

In the NBA I could see him as a 14-18pts a game SF. So probably not a go to guy.

How long should you try? Until.
- Jim Rohn

by Matt_Grbac on Nov 30, 2011 2:39 PM MST reply actions  

He's having a pretty good season

I’d look at him in the low 20s, along with guys like Hardaway, Jr.

by Stockton2Malone on Nov 30, 2011 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

What about Michael Kidd-Gilchrist?

When I read about this kid on the mock draft boards, I initially thought that he was kind of like a kid that peaked in 9th grade, and was way better than anyone else in 9th grade, but never got any better all through high school. However, when I actually watched him play in an early season game, he was very aggressive and very impressive. He was dominating in that game between Kentucky and another good team—I think North Carolina—as a “green” freshman.

by Fesenko for President on Nov 30, 2011 9:22 PM MST reply actions  

I don't watch a lot of college ball

So I can’t say anything about the eye test, nor smarts, attitude, game IQ, etc.

But T. Jones’s stats just have me drooling (if he can play SF). 2 blocks, 2 assists in 29 minutes? 50% + shooting so far (60% from three). 7 rebounds. Plus the handle of a former PG.

It’s like everything I loved about AK getting reincarnated.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Nov 30, 2011 10:06 PM MST reply actions  

Harrison Barnes

I’ve never seen a supposedly great player look as awkward as Barnes does doing everything. I don’t watch college ball obsessively, but the highlights I’ve seen have always left me feeling like Michael Bluth talking to his son about his girlfriend.

Her?

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Nov 30, 2011 10:07 PM MST reply actions  

Michael: Who?

George Michael: Wh… Ann?

Michael: Ah, yes. Of course I know Ann. I didn’t mean “who”, I meant, uh, “her”.

by BobbyD31 on Dec 1, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Perry Jones

He doesnt play the 3 for Baylor, but he can. Hes back from his 5 game suspension.

Watch this kid play, he is 6’-11", very athletic, and has handles like a 2 guard. This kid is a beast and a legit top 5 draft prospect

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

Weldon Drew

by EcERyda69 on Dec 1, 2011 12:49 PM MST reply actions  

I'm a T.Jones

fan but then again anyone who was around last draft knows that. #mancrush

For the Love of the Game

Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!

MonSTARZ forever!

by ForTheLove on Dec 1, 2011 11:24 PM MST reply actions  


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