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Utah Jazz Player Previews: Al Jefferson

Who Is This Guy?

Big Al is just trying to settle down and find a place he can call home on the court. He was moved as the key part of the package that sent Kevin Garnett to Boston. After having little team success in Minnesota, he was once again sent packing to Utah to try and fill the void left by Carlos Boozer and in part to keep Deron Williams happy. That didn't go so well. While nothing is imminent, it would appear that Al is on his way out of Utah when you consider what Utah has spent in order to bring in Enes Kanter and Derrick Favors.

Jefferson begins his 8th season in the best shape of his career after making the P3 facility his home for the past six months. As I mentioned in yesterday's Downbeat, Al has plenty to prove this season. As far as how those workouts have helped, trainer Mark McKown had this to say about Jefferson,

"I will go on the record right now in front of God and everybody. He is the most explosive, the most athletic overall, the strongest and most stable from foot to head than he's ever been, and with the lowest body fat ever.

"If he doesn't have his best season ever ... I will be shocked."

If the Jazz are to have playoff aspirations, a lot of that will depend on Jefferson's play. Can Al take things to the next level or have we seen everything that he can do already? Granted, what he can do already isn't anything to scoff at. He's a workman that will still give you 20 & 10 most nights but he hasn't been dominant. Most nights I came away a bit shocked that he had put up the numbers that he had. It's a quiet 20 & 10 to be sure. But few nights did I feel that he dominated. It's kind of bizarre.

Perhaps though he finally has that extra motivation to play better help defense, to pass out of double-teams more, and become the leader that most thought he would be. Maybe he sees the young group of guys coming up and has decided that he's not going to be traded again while other guys take his place. Hopefully that adds up to a big year this season.

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How Does He Fit?

Much like Paul Millsap, it is really hard to see Al Jefferson playing for the Jazz after 2013. Again, it has less to do with Al the basketball player and more with the situation the Jazz are in. Al will be 28 years old when his contract ends and it's hard to imagine that he will look for anything less than one more big deal. He'll sign a 3 or 4 year deal in the $10-12 million range and the Jazz just simply can't afford to pay Al that money past the next two seasons, unless they want to not afford one of their young players, or unless Al Jefferson becomes a top 30 or so player this year and learns to affect the game positively on both sides of the floor.. The Jazz will have to pay large raises to Derrick Favors and Gordon Hayward during the 2014-15 season and Burks and Kanter will come due the next season, so keeping other big contracts off the payroll will be imperative, unless they are franchise players.

Al is going to have to live with trade rumors for the next two seasons and for good reason, because guys who can put up 20 points and 10 rebounds a game will always create buzz and because his short contract will be desirable to other teams, especially next year. Teams will be interested in trading for Jefferson next season when he has a $15 million expiring contract and is still contributing. If I had to bet on it, I would guess that Jefferson plays out his contract and moves on to another team in free agency. But trust me, you will hear some majorly juicy trade rumors involving big Al starting next June. Maybe even sooner. In fact, I'll start one right now. An Al Jefferson for Andre Iguodala trade is being discussed. Enjoy, Jazz fans.

-Clark

Our Hopes, Dreams, and Deepest Fears

The narrative for Al Jefferson is simple. To date he has been a decent player given roles usually reserved for stars. He's been a statistical chameleon: a 20-10 guy who actually isn't a great scorer or rebounder. A guy who gets a decent number of blocks and steals but is actually a lousy defender. A guy who supposedly commands double-teams, but seems unable to pass out to the teammates left open.

We all know the excuses at this point.

This year, our hope as that we can stop reciting the excuses. That he'll score more efficiently, that he'll be better on defense, that he'll box out, that he'll learn to pass out of the post. We hope that he uses his footwork to get closer to the basket and create better shots.

We hope he can be a guy actually worth a near-max contract.

And our fear is that he won't change-that after eight years, guys are pretty much who they are. But our biggest fear is even greater than that. It's that, even if his play doesn't warrant it, he'll still demand the most shots, the most minutes, the biggest role. And I don't mean demand in the Boozer, I'm the main scorer regardless kind of way. I mean demand, as in everybody still gives him the biggest role out of habit. That Favors or Kanter don't have to be equally good or 1% better to take his spot-they have to be 500% better before anyone sees it.

The most important thing, though, is that we don't just want the good narrative for us. We honestly want it for Al. He's a great guy. He works hard. He sweats hard. He's a good guy in the locker room. Of all the guys in the world, isn't he about last on the list you want brandedPerpetual Loser.

There's a third option, of course. It's that Al and the coaches understand his limitations and that he transitions into a supporting role, a secondary role. That Favors or Hayward-or whoever-does have it in them to be the star, and Al cheerfully slides over, working the boards, contributing what he can, and fill the role he was, perhaps, always meant to fill: a decent player who you like to have on your team.

-Jon Midget, aka Yucca

Why Do We Care?

I was against the trade for Al when the news first broke, but he quickly won me over during his introductory press conference. Upon his arrival in Utah, a very sweaty Al <strike>damn near flooded the Great Salt Lake</strike> said that he felt the basketball gods were smiling on him because he was coming to a team with 1) Jerry Sloan; 2) Deron Williams; 3) passionate fans.

1 is gone. 2 is gone. As for 3, a good percentage of 3 feels that he is not a good fit for the team and believes he should be traded. [Please, for the love of all that's holy, no one comment on this part.]

With all that turmoil going on last year, not to mention having BTS constantly in his face all the time, he played 82 games for the first time of his career and averaged career highs in many stat categories.

All that didn't stop him from *literally* working his ass off this off-season. From June until the day the lockout ended, Al was working out 4 hours a day in Santa Barbara.

I don't know which direction the Jazz are going in and I don't know where Al's future lies, but I loved this quote from him on Media Day: "I've been the guy with the good numbers on the bad team all my career, and for once I want to be the guy with the OK numbers or good numbers with a winning team." Lastly, 1) "Buh-tawks" and 2)

-moni



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Nice break down.

I really hope Big Al shines this season. The work he put in during the offseason leads me to think we won’t be disappointed with his play this year. I’m excited to see how it goes.

Also, where did that video come from? It’s awesome and deserves to live in .gif form. Moni, make that happen.

by Guybrush on Dec 13, 2011 2:47 PM MST reply actions  

New catchphrase:

Gone is the old “KOC, make it happen!”

All hail the new: “Monie, make it happen!”

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Dec 13, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Locke talked about one his p3 goals

It was about boxes and jumping on them, basically he increased his vertical, i am not sure how much but it seemed like quite a bit, i will be curious to see if we can tell a difference.

Also another thing that hasn’t been brought up on this blog yet, WE are forcing baseline instead of middle and that should help Al a lot….. Yeah for forcing baseline……..

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by Evans Almighty on Dec 13, 2011 6:04 PM MST reply actions  

Its a great defensive scheme

It rivals what Thibedeau did at Boston, and now with the Bulls. Here’s a good breakdown of what this defensive philosophy can do to this team http://greenseatreport.com/index.php/78-jazz-blog/8-beginners

I’m actually pretty excited to see this defense installed. It’s what I have been waiting for this team to do for a long time now. No more open 3 point shooters, and fouling the middle man so he can earn his points at the line.

This is great that Corbin is doing this.

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

Weldon Drew

by EcERyda69 on Dec 14, 2011 12:01 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

that was one of the best NBA defensive reads I have ever read. Amazing post. So we are going to switch to the funnel to the baseline/sideline? I am so on board for this change.

by RUFiOHO on Dec 14, 2011 1:27 AM MST up reply actions  

big al for andre iguodala

super interesting. If we keep big al, we keep the training wheels on hayward and favors, the latter more so then the former, as they don’t have to contribute as much in the offense, and you have to consider the possibility that that might hurt their respective development. However, we’ll have a legit scorer in the paint who has shown he’s really willing to put in the work and improve. But if hayward is starting small forward, he’ll be a defensive liability in the same sense Stock was, he’ll be relentless but he’ll get beat alot. Having that AND jefferson at the same time is maybe a bit scary, getting beat at the 3 and 4/5 positions, but maybe their defensive deficiencies are overblown?

Getting iggy tho plugs the one hole we’re weak at, small forward. AND we won’t have to worry too much about playing the teams with great small forwards, iggy can play D, this much we know. And we have so many bigs already, we can afford to give one up. I believe iggy would make our team a legit one, the only problem being relying on our young bigs to actually play minutes. think about the difference between harris, hayward, iggy, favors, memo and harris, raja, hayward, big al, favors (josh howard might change things). The first line up looks more competitive to me. I dont want to have to put players in positions they are uncomfortable with like trying milly at the 3. IDK i lean towards a trade

by tdawgbillionaire on Dec 14, 2011 2:09 AM MST reply actions  

hell no

AL keeps the training wheels on? hahaha, thats like saying NO young players should play with, well, cant even say older, the dude isnt even old!

what exactly are you saying? AL gives us the best chance to win, a trade for ‘iggy’ would be such a dumb move at this point, this isnt nba2k bro

by handlogten on Dec 14, 2011 6:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Defense

Iggy is, if i remember correctly, the top defender if you look at opposing per. He is a defensive stopper. If we don’t have him, we get shat on by the likes of lebron, melo, and all the other great small forwards in the league. Remember the stockton and malone days, where nobody could defend the star players of the day, and we lost 2 finals because of that? Im just sayin, if we bring in a defensive stopper, it simultaneously helps our d and gives our youth room to grow. And i believe enes kanter/derrick favors frontcourt will be beast from day 1. imagine those two playing with harris, burks, and hayward on the court. all three of those guys can penetrate, score, and dish very well. They’ll be able to find our bigs in the right spots because they’ll draw the defense. Why do we need a ball stopper like big al when we have such good ball movers on our team? its a waste of both big als talents and our backcourt’s

by tdawgbillionaire on Dec 15, 2011 4:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Love the Sapman

But can we have Iggy for Paul? Just sayin’ . . .

yojimbo is jazzed

by jazzed on Dec 17, 2011 6:30 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Left Field

Watch out, the talent on this team is outrageous. The common thread of all criticism of the jazz is that 1: they bring up irrelevant stats from last year 2: that the jazz don’t have a go to guy to take the shot in the final moments of the game. I’d say we have at least 3 clutch performers on our team Jefferson, Milsap, and oh yeah the translucent starcraft grand master ginger beast from the mid west. The Jazz will make the playoffs, this year, if not a lot further than that.

by Simeon Jeppsen on Dec 14, 2011 11:28 AM MST reply actions  

Jazz don't need to worry about having a closer.

They’ll be down double digits in enough games it won’t matter.

No but seriously there are a lot more reasons than the ones you mentioned on why the jazz will struggle. Here are some very real concerns.

1. We are a below average defensive rebounding team and didn’t address this in the offseason.

2. The player who takes the most shots on the team is the 5th most efficient offensive player.

3. Still an unproven 3 point shooting team.

4. 3 of our best 9 players are too young to drink. Historically this leads to inexplicable losses.

5. We werent very good last year and we replaced our starting small forward with…

6. We don’t have a starting-caliber small forward on the roster.

5.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 14, 2011 11:47 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Great...Just go ahead and take a dump on this guys optimism

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

Weldon Drew

by EcERyda69 on Dec 14, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Simeon's probably looking at the toilet right now, muttering to himself

Why, oh why, oh why?

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Dec 14, 2011 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't intend to crush anyone's optimism. I believe in optimism. I'm hoping for 66 wins this season.

But I take issue with Jazz fans’ reasoning sometimes of why they will be great. I was pointing out some reasons why the Jazz struggled last year and why they may struggle this season.

And I take a big issue with saying that stats from last year are irrelevant. How about stats from the last 5 years? There are weaknesses the Jazz are going to have with this team that aren’t just from last year. But wish away, I am all for it. I am honestly just trying to preach a little bit of realistic expectations and in turn a little patience to allow this team to become what they can become in 3-5 years.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 14, 2011 4:59 PM MST up reply actions  

rebounding translates

id say enes kanter and derrick favors together will DOMINATE the boards. i don’t find an issue with that at all. as far as our small fowards go, lets get iggy! why the f not. If im kevin o’connor, i pull the trigger… just sayin

by tdawgbillionaire on Dec 15, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

3 of best 9 under 21... not sure why that matters

They may all come off the bench anyway, and having young bench guys is generally a plus.

It’s not like they are being depended upon to carry the team. Still got Harris, Big Al, and Sap for that.

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by JazzHype on Dec 14, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Few thoughts....

1 – Kanter is here now, plus Al and Favors are in much better shape.
2 – Now that its Ty’s team and not Derron and Jerry’s, I bet things will be different. ( better? Time will tell.)
3- Memo should help. Everybody will love how he helps spread the floor.
4- Would giving them a few drinks help then? I’ll be sure to invite them over. ;)
5/6 – Yep. I am curious to see if this turns out to be a minor or major issue. I hope we can at least play decent defense.

While I don’t expect a lot of wins this year, I still think from a talent and potential perspective, this will be a great season to watch.

by Big_B on Dec 14, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I am exactly with you on that last thought, and have never said otherwise.

I expect this team to win about 28 games. Not good. But I am as excited to watch this team as I was last season. That excitement may change if we are 10-20 and Burks, Hayward and Favors aren’t getting minutes.

And the physical shape of our team is not indicative of future performance and increase in wins. Lots of players are in the best shape of their lives. It’s a cliche. But have you seen guys like Kendrick Perkins? I mean the Thunder will probably go 56-10 if being in shape is a correlation of team performance.

And I’m not picking on you. Almost all Jazz fans are saying that the team is going to win more games because they are in better shape and because they changed their defensive schemes.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Dec 14, 2011 5:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm mostly curious why stats from last year are irrelevant

We don’t have stats from this year yet.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Dec 14, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he was pointing out how dumb win shares are.

No realistically a lot of last years stats will matter, but then this team is so different from last year that I see why a lot of those stats might not matter. Look how different this team is. I think Big Al and CJ have dropped 40 lbs between the 2 of them. Hayward, Evans, and Favors are stronger and more comfortable with knowing what to expect. Millsap has improved every year so we will see what he has added this year. Devin Harris will have a little more time to get used to running the system. Memo is back to being Memo. Raja has a new mindset. Kanter has someone to help him in his transition to life in the NBA. We have Alec Burks. We are running a different defense that will put guys in different positions and might produce different results than in years past. This should help Earl, Raja, and Devin Harris who have all been very good defenders in systems that force baseline. So I understand why some of the stats shouldn’t matter that much.

I know a lot of stats are good and that they tell us a lot, but things like Win shares and opponents PER are a big crap shoot. Win shares tell us that Kyle Korver was a better defender than AK last year. Opponents PER allowed tell us Big Al was a better defensive center than Noah. I do think we have gotten a little bit overboard with advanced stats and in the long run we have stopped just looking at what is really happening. Stats can really help, but when Earl Watson has a higher +/- than Deron Williams nobody really thinks that Earl is better than Deron. When we look at Kevin Martin’s TS% we think he must be the most "efficient" shooting guard in the league, but when his actually shooting percentage is lower than the shooting percentage of Monta Ellis, then we step back and say, "Wait… What?"

I think stats can tell us a lot, but there are some things that they can’t explain. I think it is part of why Tim Tebow drives the "experts" crazy because his numbers show that he is not a good QB, yet results of games say he is. There just aren’t stats for how much your teammates believe in you.

I use a lot of stats and numbers when arguing my points, and I really enjoy stats, but I think a lot of them out there right now are about as useful as Fes shooting free throws. So I do think stats can be important and help tell us what is happening, but can be completely useless at the same time.

by BobbyD31 on Dec 14, 2011 2:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess I've become the Win Shares dude, eh. :)

I guess the really funny thing is this preview doesn’t get into stats … like at all.

Sure he’s referring to stuff we’ve written in the past (probably mostly me, honestly). I guess to me the fact is the team stunk last year. The stats help me understand why.

As for Tebow, the stats (if you look at them all, not just completion %) say he’s a decent QB.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Dec 14, 2011 3:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah that was a little shot at your recent use of Win shares, but I was joking.

I love stats. I just think that we try to have a stat for everything and a lot of them don’t really give us anything useful.

To an optimist (which I am to a fault) last year doesn’t reflect this team, because things are so different right now. At least we hope they are different. So I don’t think you can look at the Jazz record after Deron left and put that over 66 games and that is where the Jazz will finish. As an optimist I look at how the team played the last week and say man if we can keep Hayward playing that way with the shape that Big Al is now in, with Harris healthy, with CJ lighter, with Favors stronger, Memo back, with the team deeper, how do we not build on where we left off last year? I know that this isn’t the greatest team ever, but I think we have talent if we can put it together.

Tebow has great 4th quarter stats, but poor stats the rest of the game. I love watching him, but I know 1000% more about basketball than football so I don’t want to debate his stats.

by BobbyD31 on Dec 14, 2011 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I my basketball/football knowledge ratio is probably even more one-sided than yours

I just happened to read a recent thing about Tebow that showed different reasons he’s been effective.

And I knew you were joking. It was a little shot done in jest and in fun. I was just a little baffled by the original comment.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Dec 14, 2011 8:16 PM MST up reply actions  


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