Utah Jazz Waive Four Players

by Basketball John on Dec 21, 2011 10:43 AM MST in Utah Jazz - Trades & Transactions

Well, that was quick

The Jazz has waived 4 players: Paul Carter, Trey Gilder, Keith McLeod and Scottie Reynolds. Roster now stands at 14.
— Jonathan Rinehart (@jonrinehart) December 21, 2011

What's odd is that none of them got any playing time on the court and won't be with the team tonight as they take on the Blazers. Normally, the Jazz have held onto training camp players until after the last pre-season game.

Not on that list is Jamaal Tinsley. With Corbin leaning towards keeping three point guards, it appears that he has made the team. We'll see if he gets any playing time tonight.

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Meh...

Im not pleased with Tinsley, but whatever.

by TurboJazz224 on Dec 21, 2011 10:58 AM MST reply actions

I'm not happy that Reynolds didin't get any playing time,

but I mostly agree with you. Meh.

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by DWest on Dec 21, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions

He's the 3rd string point guard. What happens when, not if, Devin Harris misses games due to injury?

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by clarkpojo on Dec 21, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions

I’d much rather have Scottie than Tinsley… a little bummed.

by RUFiOHO on Dec 21, 2011 11:19 AM MST reply actions

Yea me too, wish we could at least see if he can play..

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by Asmaki on Dec 21, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions

I agree with you

But Reynolds game is pretty much the same as Ronni P without the insane hopes. I suspect they knew with the compressed season that injuries will force them to use their 3rd string PG at some point. Sad to say, but Tinsley would probably be the best person to run a team if it was necessary.

If I had my way, Burkes would be the 3rd string PG.

by TurboJazz224 on Dec 21, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions

*hops

by TurboJazz224 on Dec 21, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions

Darn.

i gotta think tinsley starts the season on ir………who else?

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Dec 21, 2011 1:10 PM MST reply actions

maybe kanter plays w/ the flash

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Dec 21, 2011 1:10 PM MST up reply actions

They just have to make one guy inactive. Probably rotate between Tinsley and Evans. And someone is going down with an injury in the first two weeks.

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by clarkpojo on Dec 21, 2011 3:26 PM MST up reply actions

that's not true

you can only have 12 active, with 13 necessary on the roster. so with 14 we will have two sit. and until harris goes down with an injury i think tinsley is 1 and whoever is in the dog house might be #2

by gubihero on Dec 21, 2011 3:31 PM MST up reply actions

My mistake. I think we can only afford to sit Tinsley and Evans and sometimes Kanter or Okur. That's sad that Evans won't be active often.

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by clarkpojo on Dec 21, 2011 3:38 PM MST up reply actions

I think you are right

My guess is that most nights it will be Evans and Tinsley that are inactive, but I do expect quite a few injuries …

by Daniel Smith on Dec 21, 2011 4:11 PM MST up reply actions

why does Jonathan always type

“The Jazz has………” that might be correct and proper, but it sounds like a redneck hick from the backwoods. I wish people would just say “The Jazz HAVE………..”

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by BigBenSportsGuy on Dec 21, 2011 1:30 PM MST reply actions

I don't think that's correct anyway

If I name my cat “Mittens”, it’s not appropriate to say “Mittens like milk”. The context of the noun is what matters, not alternate meanings.

by BJInIndiana on Dec 21, 2011 2:00 PM MST up reply actions

Wrong

“The Jazz” is singular.

The syntax of “the Jazz has” seems weird because the majority of our sports teams in the U.S. have plural names.

But put it in another context: soccer and Manchester United. You will never hear or read “Manchester United have added Bob to their roster.” It sounds absurd. It should be: “Manchester United has added Bob to its roster.”

In fact, you could argue that we use incorrect grammar for most American sports teams. Think again about the Jazz. It is syntactically singular, but it is also in meaning. The Jazz is a single team. Not lots of teams, but one team.

Same with “The Bulls”. It is one team. Singular. This is actually similar to your cat named Mittens. Your cat happened to be named a plural noun. Same thing here. The team happens to be named a plural noun. But it’s still just one team. Singular.

So you could argue that we should write “The Bulls has saved the Jazz and signed Carlos Boozer to its roster.”

Anyway … that’s probably a lot more than anyone cared to know.

And for what it’s worth, I always use plural when talking about teams. The Lakers are losers. The Jazz are going to kick their butts every game within a couple years.

The singular used for American sports teams just sounds weird.

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by Yucca Man on Dec 21, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

I love these nerdy discussions of grammar.

Sports has a place for us geeks too ;)

by flibbidy on Dec 21, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions

I think the general practice (in American sports anyway)

is to use the location as a singular entity and the team name as a plural, i.e. Utah has done this, the Jazz have done that.

With team names that usually used for singular entities (Jazz, Heat, Magic) etc. it sounds like you’re referring to the concept if you use it in the singular. “The Heat has put LeBron James on the bench”…did he mess up in the fourth quarter or get sunstroke? Not sure.

by BJInIndiana on Dec 21, 2011 3:29 PM MST up reply actions

actually to me when it is "the heat has"

it sounds like someone is talking about themself in the 3rd person i.e.
“do you smell what The Rock is Cooking?”
or “The Jazz is going to ROUGH YOU UP!”
or “The Heat doesn’t understand what you are insinuating”

by gubihero on Dec 21, 2011 3:42 PM MST up reply actions

so i guess to wrestling fans

it doesn’t sound too weird

by gubihero on Dec 21, 2011 3:43 PM MST up reply actions

All this fancy grammar talk

is making me dizzy. I used to keep up with conversations like this…

…then i took an arrow to the knee

by sean5962 on Dec 21, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions

thank you for adding jazz fan appropriate examples

i think it helps illustrate the concept better when it hits home with the audience too

by gubihero on Dec 21, 2011 3:35 PM MST up reply actions

We use

Team names as plurals because while the team may be a singular entity, it is consisted of visible individuals, so in our minds, we see it as a plural. Corporations on the other hand, are also made up of individuals, but we don’t see them that way, so we refer to them in the singular. My .02

Utah>*

by Bebop on Dec 21, 2011 3:58 PM MST up reply actions