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What Ulysses Grant and Hernan Cortez taught me about basketball

   During the final stretch American Civil war it became increasingly evident the North would win. The South was just too short on men and assets to win. The North had the men, money and firepower to just hammer down the South. And that's exactly how they did it. They wore down the South through attrition.The South entrenched themselves down heavily in Virginia and Grant won by just throwing swarm after swarm of men down on them. The North lost a lot- a lot- of men through this strategy. But it worked. Essentially he was trying to knock down bowling pins by haphazardly throwing down 10 bowling balls en masse instead of carefully and skillfully sending down one ball to get the ten pins.

  Now refer to Spaniard's siege of Tenochtitlan in 1519-1521. A  relatively small Spanish force (numbered in the hundreds) overtook the great Aztec empire (numbered in the hundreds of thousands), largely due to superior weaponry and strategy.

  Two different wars. The same result of victory. One inefficiently won through overwhelming attrition. A necessary strategy? Maybe, maybe not. Something tells me General Lee wouldn't have employed that strategy were he Northern commander.  The Spanish won a resounding victory through superior weapons and strategy- they didn't have the men to spare. There may be more than one way to skin a cat, but historically, I think Cortez's penchant for strategy was probably a better move than Grant's penchant for sheer attrition.

 

  Okay, enough boring history. What did a Civil War General and a Spanish Conquistador teach me about basketball?

 Strategy trumps volume, and there is a preferred way to win a war. In basketball, sound defensive strategy  combined with efficient offense trumps volume scoring and porous offense.

As Yucca Man pointed out in his post today, we are in rebuilding mode. Or at the very least we need to be. In this process of rebuilding, we need to carefully consider what strategy for winning we are employing.

Two teams play a pick up game. Team one has Allen Iverson, Kevin Martin, Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire and Andrea Bargnani.

Team two has Rajon Rondo, Tony Allen, Gerald Wallace, Tim Duncan  and Andrew Bogut.

Who wins? The explosive offensive team with a porous defense or the strong defensive team with an averagish offense?

We could debate that all day long. I'll tell you my vote would be team 2. The first team would throw up shot after shot after a horribly inefficient rate and then play no D on the other end. The second team may not have the offensive "firepower" of the first team, but they will play lockdown defense. I really think Team 2 would win this little pick up game. It's strategy over attrition.

The lesson in short- the Jazz will win more games if they rebuild with the goal in mind of FIRST playing lock down defense and SECOND having scorers. To me, a great defense with serviceable scorers will win more then a a team with great offense but only serviceable (or worse) defenders.

 To that end, a guy like Ben Wallace (in prime) may be a more valuable piece to the Jazz than Al Jefferson. I know that doesn't quite roll off the tongue right, but it's true. Wallace has a great interior presence and plays fantastic defense. Al? Not so much. So while Al may score 20 points how many is he giving up on the other end? Guys like Wallace are the bread and butter of title winners. 

  So, when building a team, we need to have a defensive team with scorers filling in the gaps rather than an offensive team with defenders spread here and there intermittently. In employing this strategy it may seem we are opting for lesser talent, but defense is what will win championships.

   Coach Ty would be better served brainwashing our guys in training camp with defense than implementing a complicated offense. I know we need both- but for a rebuilding team- like the Jazz-- the offense prowess must follow the defensive prowess, and when choosing between players we need to get the guys who play defense, even if some offense is sacrificed in the short term. In other words, if, say the Raptors were willing to trade both Reggie Evans and Andrea Bargnani, we should prefer to trade for Evans despite how good Barg's O is. It's why we would be better off trading for a guy like Carlos Delfino rather than a guy like Jason Richardson. Counter intuitive, I realize this- but defense must be the first priority. And our future roster moves must reflect this truth of basketball.

  When evaluating a player to acquire, be it draft, free agency or trade, the priority for basketball traits should be 1) Defensive skill 2) how do they play as part of a team and then 3) offensive skill. In all seriousness, Andrew Bogut would add more wins to our team were we to acquire him than Carmelo Anthony would. Why? Because Bogut fits the mold of my criterion better than Anthony does. Guys like Anthony have their place on a team- but only after a skilled defense has been put in place. We need to escape the idea that  we can put some strong defenders on the court to cover up for the mistakes of our defenseless scorers. Look at what Thibs has done in Chicago. He's surrounded Boozer and Korver with the likes of Asik, Noah, Brewer, Thomas. That's not conventional thinking.

In the process of rebuilding, we need to build up the walls before we bring in the cannons. It has to be that way. If that means we call up the Suns and offer Al for Gortat, then that is what it means. If it means we pass up on a chance to get a Granger type so we can get a Tony Allen type, then so be it. This is the way it needs to be.

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I would add is that in order to contend in the playoffs, you also need a go-to, star scorer, and I don’t believe we have that guy on our roster. There’s no way San Antonio or Boston could win without Ginobili or Pierce. The Bulls have Derrick Rose. The only guys in this draft who have a chance to become “that guy” are probably Irving and Williams (and Knight?). Until we get that guy, no matter how good of a defensive team we become, our ceiling is the Bucks/ Grizzlies. Unless we luck out in the draft or swing a really lopsided trade, our best chance is probably to really suck this year and get another couple lottery picks next year.

by Caderade on May 20, 2011 5:53 PM MDT reply actions  

I'd say the go-to guy could become Hayward or Favors

But we have to let them have the chance to see if they could do it.

But either way, it makes a lot of sense to rebuild with that 20-win team I was talking about :)

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on May 20, 2011 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, absolutely you need a go to scorer

BUt my post wasn’t talking about ALL the pieces a true contending team needs. I was talking about where we need to get started as a rebuilding team- and that starting place is building a strong defense.
  It’s like making cake. Eventually you want to cover it with frosting, but you first need to blend teh eggs and flour. My post was about making the cake, not frosting the final product.

by Jeffersap on May 21, 2011 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dude

I’d vote for team two all day long, forever and ever and ever.

I think you are right about the need for defense first. When I daydream about insane draft-day picks and trade scenarios, I inevitably come up with one that eats people alive defensively.

And by the way, I’d jump at Al for Gortat in a blink. That’s exactly the kind of trade I advocate in my piece. He’s out of the way of Favors development (he’s not going to get 20 shots every game by default) and his defense kicks butt.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on May 20, 2011 8:00 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think I actually borrowed the GOrtat thing from some comment of your way back when

There needs to obviously be some offense, but defense is what will actually win games. The team with the 1st ranked D and the 15th ranked O would win a 7 game series every time over the 1st ranked offense and the 15th ranked D. I guarantee it.

  The great secret of strong defense that no one talks about is that teams are often so dependent on one or two guys to score that when that player gets shut down the team crumbles. Teams come to rely on one guy too much- a guy that a strong defender can snuff out. Is that really a smart way to build a team? To have an explosive scorer but no D? NO! We call that team the Warriors. They are in the lottery perpetually. The smarter way is to lock down on defense, and then have a handful of guys that can score reliably.

by Jeffersap on May 21, 2011 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

And by the way

I love the references to Civil War and the siege of Tenochtitlan. It’s good writing and fun to read.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on May 20, 2011 8:03 PM MDT reply actions  

didn't the spanish also win because

they brought new diseases from the old world that pretty much wiped out the natives?

by gubihero on May 21, 2011 10:18 AM MDT reply actions  

Long term, yes

But that’s not why the Spanish won a single siege.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on May 21, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Defense is priority 1

If we want to win some games.

If we go Knight at 3 we get a guy who can score but also plays good defense. Had length and smarts to lock it down.

At 12 I want Tyler Honeycutt. Another guy who is defense oriented. He is developing his offense and can drive or knock down a 3. He also averaged 2blks a game as a SF. Length and basketball IQ along with the attitude of wanting to lock it down is what we need.

Length + IQ + Defensive Attitude = Wins!!

"Nobody scares us," Dion Gales said. "Where I’m from, it ain’t how big or small a man is, it’s the size of the fight in them.

"I’ll be doggone if I let another man beat me, that’s just my attitude. I’m not scared of another man."

by Matt_Grbac on May 21, 2011 10:37 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

But the lineups for your example don’t match up unless you are talking Duncan from 5 years ago. Because even a bunch of poor defenders could defend that team because no one on team 2 can even remotely shoot the ball. Did you see the 2004 Olypmics when the US got beat, by a bunch of all O no D teams even with Tim Duncan in the middle? Teams would pack the middle against the Americans and hope that the US would shoot jumpers because we didn’t have shooters. That is the thing you neglect to put light on is that you have to be able to shoot the ball as well as defend to win. That’s why in ’08 they added shooting and last summer they had KD. Someone has to keep the defense honest.

The Bulls play great D, but if Kyle Korver didn’t hit some big shots they don’t get out of round 1 against the Pacers. You need balance. If Rondo wasn’t teamed up with Ray Ray, Paul P, and KG, it wouldn’t matter how well he can defend, because teams can just plug the lane and force him to shoot jumpers on O.
 
Look at the Jordan Bulls teams. They were great on D, because Jordan and Pippen could cover so much ground and Horace Grant and later Rodman could grab everything that came off the rim. But remember back to who else was on the court with those teams. The Suns remember John Paxson. We remember Steve Kerr. In fact if what you are saying is completely true, there would be no need for a guy like Steve Kerr or Robert Horry, but the teams they played on, would strongly disagree with that assessment.

Both of those teams you mentioned are fundamentally flawed. Team one would win a lot of regular season games, because when a scorer is hot, you can ride a guy a long way, and that team has enough scorers that someone would be able to keep them in most games. I wouldn’t trust that team at all in the playoffs though.

 Team 2 wouldn’t give up a lot of points and would be a pretty solid team, but unless we are talking Tim Duncan from 5 or 6 years ago I don’t know if they would even make the Playoffs. They would be so easy to defend. You could pack the lane so much on them, that even if they held you to the mid 80s they would struggle to hit that mark themselves. That said, if you get a good defender that can knock down 3s and long Js, like a Joe Dumars type, then that team could go all the way.

Every team that has ever won the title has played good D, but every team has also had guys who are good at putting the ball in the hole. Point being even the best defensive team needs to be able to score a little and keep the defenses it faces honest. Why do you think the Jazz had the best stretch in franchise history when they added Hornacek. You need Defense, but you also need guys to help you spread the floor at the other end. You need a lot more balance that either team 1 or team 2 has to offer.

by BobbyD31 on May 23, 2011 2:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Of course you need shooters around a good defense

I was talking in the context of rebuilding, not in building a finished product championship contender. I should have clarified that. As a rebuilding team it would be wiser to first build the team defense and THEN fill in the gaps with shooters and scorers. The Bulls are in the right direction- if they get the right shooter, they’ll be dangerous. Do it the other way— get a collection of shooters without any defense- and the team will cave.
  In rebuilding the Jazz they should find first strong defenders (my piece’s thesis) and second get the guys who will carry the scoring load. No, a defense only team won’t win it all, but it is the place to start.
  And yeah I was talking about Duncan (and Iverson) in their prime. (I was looking for stereotypical type players to fill out the lineups—those two were perfect, but too old. I guess I assumed people would think of them in their prime)
  

by Jeffersap on May 24, 2011 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

No I agree with the Point. Offense wins games, Defense wins championships.

I get what you are saying and I agree, with the main point. I just thought you were saying that team 2 would be a good team, and I don’t think they would. But I would take each one of those players on my team, but I wouldn’t put them all together.

Don’t feel old, because when ever I think of what you were trying to say, I think Russell vs Wilt. Russell has 11 rings to Wilt’s 2.

To go along with this, we should all be hoping the Jazz take Singleton at the 12th pick. The guy is by far the best defender in the draft.

by BobbyD31 on May 24, 2011 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dude. Our "D" has it made already.

We have Raja Bell.

Baseball is the only place in life where a sacrifice is really appreciated.
"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK

by DWest on May 24, 2011 9:33 PM MDT reply actions  

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