QUICKY – 2011 NBA Draft Combine Shooting Drills Results (REMIX)
I wrote about the shooting recently. Less than 6 hours ago. Because I’m becoming increasingly interested in doing a good job with this blogging thing I had to look over the numbers again. DX’s numbers just weren’t adding up. Instead of using this time to do the dishes or solve a murder on a train, I decided to dig deeper and look at the shooting data and represent it here. It’s sorted by class (Bigman, and then everyone else) by how many made FGs you got. It’s not a perfect correlation with fg%, but it is something. Especially so as one of the portions of the shooting evaluation was seeing how many shots you could get up in a fixed amount of time.
The cells in green are for shooting percentages of 70.0% and higher. The cells in red are for shooting percentages of 40.0% and lower. The end of each chart shows the number given by draft express and how much they boosted or short changed a guy’s numbers. I think the difference is that I use the raw numbers and they probably were averaging averages. I also then reduced everything to one point after the decimal place. This is a pre draft shooting drill. I don’t think we need to go to the hundredths place just yet. Bolded names are guys the Jazz are bringing in for a work out this Sunday.
Bigmen who participated in the Shooting Drills at the Chicago Predraft Camp 2011:
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Point guards, shooting guards, and small forwards after the break…
Everyone else!
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Analysis:
Some of these guys were very good midrange spot up shooters. Some of them were not. The disparity is greater in the bigmen. My ‘boy’ Keith Benson did okay. Here you can see that Enes Kanter was pretty much middle of the pack (actually statistically below average for a big, out of THESE bigs). He does his damage in the paint, so this doesn’t mean he’s a bad shooter. It just means he didn’t shoot great on this day. He was much better the closer he got, more or less. The Morris twins (Markieff and Marcus) both shot poorly. We’re bringing Markieff, along with Jeremy Tyler and JaJaun Johnson into work out against on another. (Along with another big, Dallas Lauderdale – who did not show up to this camp).
As for the guards, it’s pretty clear that a lot of these guys can shoot. Marcus Morris is clearly not a guard, or even a wing. He shot poorly all day long, saved for the timed section which he did great on. Jimmer is great. Isaiah Thomas did even better. My ‘guy’ Marshon Brooks was tied for 5th best by total fg% out of this group. But all of that doesn’t matter when there’s this Andrew Goudelock guy. Dude killed it in the last section by going 21 for 21.
The Jazz are bringing two PGs from this group to the same work out as the four bigs. It looks like that’s a bigs work out / eval then, as the two guards will mainly be there to make entry passes and stuff. They are Norris Cole and Shelvin Mack. Mack was on those Butler teams with The Precious.
I had high hopes for Klay Thompson, but for a 'shooter' he didn't impress. He did shoot 50fg% for the entire drill (going 40/80), but he didn't look like Reggie Miller or Kevin Martin when he was shooting 36fg% from the NCAA two on spot ups. Lastly, I think Kenneth Faried has hurt himself with some of the draft measurements and his poor shooting. He’s going to be a good pro for sure. But this Chicago camp didn’t help his draft stock.
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I wouldn't mind trading our twelfth pick
for a few second rounders and perhaps grabbing Gouldelock as a shooter, and Liggins as a defensive specialist
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Yeah, I've been saying this is a bad year not to have a 2nd for a bit now
There’s still a possibility that some of these guys might not get drafted. With all the roster space, the Jazz should at least look at bringing a bunch of these guys to camp.
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This is just one day's worth of shooting and doesn't invalidate an entire college career.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on May 27, 2011 7:59 PM MDT reply actions
It certainly seemed to be an off day for Mr. Thompson
perhaps too much of the sticky icky before he shot, lol
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Can someone please explain to me why JaJuan Johnson isn't getting more love.
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I don't get it either
He’s got size, range, strength (though I’m not sure what his bench numbers were).
Maybe he’s too finesse? I don’t know… I’m pretty high on him and based on everything he’s done, I expected him to be more of a top 15 kind of guy.
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Oh, and also
I think the Spurs or some other already good team are going to snag him and get themselves a total steal at the bottom of the 1st round.
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His knock, apparently
was that he’s not strong enough, which i don’t get. Favors’ + was that he’s got an “NBA body” and that he was strong. JaJuan had 15 bench reps compared to Favors’ 14.
Big 10 player of the year, two-time All Big 10 first team, 20 pts 8.6 rbs 2.3 blks.
Top that off with a 38" vertical from a 6’10" guy (only one other player in DXs database that is 6’10" or taller has a vert of 38" or higher). Yeah. I don’t get it.
Maybe the fact that he’s a senior, since everyone seems to want the youngest project with the most upside.
But yeah, some good team is going to get themselves a real steal. Same with Marshon Brooks too.
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I agree that teams could do themselves a favor and take the 22 year old with credentials over the 18 or 19 year old who is on pace to have credentials.
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