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The Basketball version of food storage


The Jazz front office seems to have some obsession with emulating Utah culture. First, our announcers talking about fry sauce endlessly. There is of course the seemingly disproportional number of white players on our team. I wouldn't be surprised if we  begin announcing draft picks by making puzzle scrambles of the players name that David Stern has to unscramble, or making a candy bar poster Stern can show : Don't Snicker but we Charleston Chews Enes Kanter to give a big PAY DAY  of a 100 Grand.....you get the idea. Utah culture will prevail in the Jazz FO.

Their latest imitation? Food storage.

For those of you not aware of what that is, food storage is where individuals store food (like flour, canned goods, etc) in case of an emergency--natural disaster, economic depression, famine, etc. It is very widespread in Utah and Southeast Idaho, the mainstays of the Jazz fanbase.

  Apparently, our team has decided to do this with power forwards.

The following Jazz players either are power forwards, are naturally power forwards first, or can play power forward.

Paul Millsap. Andrei Kirilenko. Derrick Favors. Jeremy Evans. Al Jefferson. Enes Kanter. Mehmet Okur. 7 players. Literally half our roster.

  There is a difference between depth and a logjam. Depth is the US National team putting Rose, D Will, CP3 and Rondo all on the sqaud. Some games one guy make play more than others, but the next night it may be someone different. The beauty of the depth is that there is almost no drop off between the starter and backup(s).

Then there is a logjam. To me this is where there are multiple players at a position who deserve playing time but at are different stages in their development and career. Hence, you have fully developed Jefferson and Sap. They deserve minutes. You have Okur in the twilight of his career. Favors, Kanter and Evans who need time to develop. It is a different scenario than depth.

  Simply put we need to do what is best for the team and what is fair to the players.

It's not fair for guys like Favors and Kanter, who have spent their entire lives more or less learning the game, to rot on a bench.

It's not fair for a workhorse like Sap to not start- and to be on a poor team.

People need to go. 

  In an ideal world, Sap and Jefferson would get their 35 minutes of burn. Kanter would get 20-25 his first year. Favors would get a solid 3 quarters of action. Evans 15-20 minutes to come and be a spark. Even a healthy Okur at this point should get 20 minutes or so. There just aren't enough minutes to go around though.

 

So what is the solution? It depends on who you ask.

Let me first say that we cannot be afraid of letting Favors, Kanter and Evans get playing time because they are young and raw. How else will true development occur? Continuing to give most of the minutes to AL and Sap may give us a few more wins now--but not enough to get us to the playoffs, and certainly at the expense of our future (as much as I love Sap, Favor's ceiling is higher. I also believe Kanter will be better than Al.)

  Here's a solution. Trade Sap. Send him to a good team, where he can compete for a title and contribute significantly. This should probably be done before the season starts. I'd hate to see him go. I'd probably to leave my house for a week. But it needs to be done, for the future of our franchise and out of fairness to him.

  We also look to trade Al sometime in December to the trade break. This of course depends on the health of Okur and how Kanter is acclimating. But assuming Kanter is reliable for 20-25 minutes and Okur is relatively healthy, we need to move Al next season. I know he's working hard--but let's face it, he'll never be good on defense, and he will never be efficient enough on offense to justify the poor defense. And even if Kanter is a complete and total bust I say we move Al. He is not in our team's future--and the present is certainly not competing for a title. So let him go.

 

  The hope for our team is the future. We need to everything we can to maximize our future. Right now, we have 4 lottery picks from the last two drafts. We cannot let them be benchwarmers.

All comments are the opinion of the commenter and not necessarily that of SLC Dunk or SB Nation.

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Couldn't agree more

I really like Millsap, but I just don’t see a place for him on this team. I have an idea for a trade, but everybody would probably hate it. As you described, here’s the minutes everybody should be getting:

Kanter- 25 mpg
Favors- 30 mpg
Millsap- 30 mpg
Jefferson- 30 mpg
Okur- 20 mpg
Fesenko- 10 mpg
Evans- 10 mpg
= 155 mpg between 2 positions (96 available)

Here’s the trade

Kanter- 25 mpg
Favors- 30 mpg
Jamison- 25 mpg
Okur- 20 mpg
Erden- 14 mpg
Evans- 15 mpg
= 129 between 2 positions (96 available)

If you ask me, Erden is at least as good as Fesenko, and half the price. He could get a lot of DNP coaches decision, Evans could log most of his minutes at the SF. Both Okur and Jamison would come off the books at the end of the year (Erden too for that matter). We would also pick up Ramon Sessions who is an excellent value and would be an excellent back-up. Giving us a Depth Chart like this:
PG: Harris, Sessions, Burks
SG: Hayward, Burks, Bell
SF: AK, CJ, Evans
PF: Favors, Jamison, Evans
C: Okur, Kanter, Jamison, Erden
Could that team make the playoffs? Probably not, but it would be fun to watch and gives all the rookies/sophomores a good amount of playing time.

by Kfunk on Jun 24, 2011 11:36 AM MDT reply actions  

I wouldn't mind the trade, with a couple adjustments.

I’m not sure I’d love Antawn Jamison, and I’m not sure he’d love coming off the bench for a developing team in Utah.

I’d be willing to roll the dice with trading Harris for future picks and giving the starting PG spot to Sessions. I don’t think he’d be Deron, but I think he’d be solid. He’d allow more useage and more playmaking for Hayward and Burks so they can develop the kind of games we hope they can. Sessions’ 3pt shooting is dreadful, but everything else is decent. Hardly spectacular, but decent. (and better TS% than Harris, despite putrid 3pt shooting)

Really, I’d do the trade with two adjustments: follow it by trading Harris and Jamison for future picks. A three-way front court spin (Memo, Favors, Kanter) would be nice—with a dash of Fes and Erden thrown in here and there.

So here’s the lineup I’d see

Starters:

PG – Sessions
SG – Hayward
SF – CJ
PF – Favors
C – Memo

Main bench:

C/PF – Kanter
SG/PG – Burks
SF/PF – AK

Others making regular cameos:

Jeremy Evans, Fes, Erden

And honestly, in that situation I could see Kanter taking over as the starting C at some point in the season.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jun 24, 2011 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

I figured that Kanter would be starting at some point too

The reason I included Jamison was purely financial, between him and Okur that would be 22 million off the books at the end of the season.

I really like Erden in the trade because he has been relitively efficient, his per is significantly higher than Fesenko’s.

Would you be happier with a three team trade in which for Millsap we get James Johnson and Mickael Pietrus? Pietrus is a pretty good defender, and Johnson has shown some potential. They also bolster our SF position.

by Kfunk on Jun 24, 2011 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

If Jamison only has a year left, then it's by out potential.

Id be fine with that.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jun 24, 2011 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Last night I was looking at trade scenerios to get Sessions.

I think he might be one of the best PGs out there who is available. I don’t love taking on Jamison’s contract but at least it is coming off the books next year. And he could easily be dealt at the trade deadline to someone who wanted to snag Deron, Paul, or Dwight.

I would be offering up trades similar to these to Cleveland right now if I was in Utah’s FO.

by hamfist on Jun 24, 2011 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Another trade I was thinking of would be sending Millsap to the Spurs for Splitter and whoever else to get salaries to match

I want Millsap to play on a good, contending team. He’d fit in well in San Antonio. Splitter and Evans would be serviceable as backups, allowing Favors to get his minutes as a starter.

I’m not sure if the Spurs would do this. I have no idea what part Splitter has in their future. But it is something to think about.

by Jeffersap on Jun 25, 2011 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also tough, because I don't know if the spurs value Millsap more than they value DeJuan Blair.

I know Phoenix wants Millsap, but short of Gortat and Dudley, there isn’t much we would want from them. They tried to trade us Robin Lopez and Mickael Pietrus for him last February.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Jun 25, 2011 7:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

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