Him or Him?
by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 7:56 AM MDT
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Hey guys! Don't know if any of you were part of the old NBAwire.com before it shut down, but "Him or Him" threads were very popular. For those who don't know how it works, it is pretty easy.
1. I start it off by saying "Player X or Player Y?"
2. The first person to respond posts a comment. In this comment, they post their choice. They give a reason why, if they want to. They then post a "him or him" of their own. It does not have to include the previous winner. It can be current players, past players, college players, heck you could even do SLC Dunk posters.
3. Here is where it gets tricky. If you disagree with someone's pick, please post your arguments IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT, not a new comment. If you wish to answer the current "him or him", please comment under the article itself.
The more creative, the better. For instance, instead of just saying "Tim Duncan or Kevin Garneet", you can say "Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett in 02" or "MJ or Kobe in their primes" or "Better 'fro: Ben Wallace or Dr. J" or "Bigger philanderer: Wilt Chamberlain or Dennis Rodman?"
I think you get it.
Anywyay, the first "Him or Him" is..................
Patrick Ewing or David Robinson, in their primes?
All comments are the opinion of the commenter and not necessarily that of SLC Dunk or SB Nation.
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David Robinson, hands down
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you are now supposed to give us a him or him so the discussion can continue.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions
instead of waiting around for a response, ill go ahead and give the next one.
Deron Williams or Chris Paul?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 9:27 AM MDT reply actions
Chris Paul
To trade for assets
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Doh, sorry, I broke the game already
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Basketball: Antonio Gates or Bo Jackson pre-injury
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sorry for the confusion.
JazzHype is doing it right. I thought that the “reply” feature would get too thin. Instead of answering via reply, just post a general comment, like JazzHype has done. So, ill answer all of the pending ones and then give mine.
Bo Jackson and Monster Mash!
Better Ukranian: Pecherov or Fesenko?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 10:10 AM MDT reply actions
Football: Lebron James or Karl Malone?
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LBJ
"Size doesn't make any difference; heart is what makes a difference."
Jerry Sloan
by cjblockingfisher on Aug 15, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Karl
because he won’t leave your team for a better one ….. until his last year.
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Ray Allen or Reggie Miller
"Size doesn't make any difference; heart is what makes a difference."
Jerry Sloan
by cjblockingfisher on Aug 15, 2011 10:37 AM MDT reply actions
Totally disagree... Ray Allen all the way
Better defender, more complete player, without losing the clutch shooting
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Ray Couldn't carry a team. He is perfect as a 3rd option.
Reggie carried a franchise, was more clutch (ask the Knicks) and was a better defender than you are giving him credit, 35th all time in steals and a very smart player.
He also had a mental advantage as well and is also the only guy to get Jordan to lose his cool. Better Trash talker to boot.
I agree with that
I was definitely thinking of them as role players for a championship team, not as the “superstar” of a team.
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I'm going Miller
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Magic
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Bird 84-87 was absolutely unstoppable
Magic never had that.
Bird all the way.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
Except in 85 and 87 when Magic stopped him :)
In this debate it is hard to separate them from their teams.
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions
85 - Bird busted his finger in a bar fight, plus the Lakers sent 3-4 guys to defend him
And the Celtics only decent bench player (Cedric Maxwell) got hurt
87 McHale broke his foot
When the Lakers have Kareem + Magic + Worthy + Cooper + Byron Scott, busted limbs and injured players are a kind of big deal.
But I don’t know how anyone can say Bird wasn’t better than Magic those years.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
I like what you guys are doing. lets keep this going.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 10:46 AM MDT reply actions
The board format with highlighted new posts and keyboard shortcuts actually works great with this
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Shaq or Wilt? (obviously in their primes)
again, feel free to disagree with someone. Hopefully, this will keep us entertained during the lockout. Could some of you rec this so that it stays on the top of the page? thanks!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 10:47 AM MDT reply actions
Wilt
"Size doesn't make any difference; heart is what makes a difference."
Jerry Sloan
by cjblockingfisher on Aug 15, 2011 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Stockton or Malone
"Size doesn't make any difference; heart is what makes a difference."
Jerry Sloan
by cjblockingfisher on Aug 15, 2011 10:49 AM MDT reply actions
tough call
ill go with stock, because he never went to the lakers.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stock
Partly because he is the one I would build any dream team around. :)
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Play-by-play guys
Hot Rod or David Locke?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 10:52 AM MDT reply actions
Hot Rod
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TO basketball
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MJ baseball
Much bigger draw; sustainable as a player just because of that respect.
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Dikembe Mutumbo vs. Alonzo Mourning
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Zo
he had a nice offensive game.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
Rashard Lewis or Antwan Jamison?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 10:59 AM MDT reply actions
CP3
CP3 with Barkley= Larry O’Brien Trophy
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Allan Houston or Michael Redd?
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thats tough.....
two great shooters who will be remembered for injuries. both had inflated contracts. Ill go with Redd because I dont like the Knicks.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Hasheem Thabeet or Zan Tabak?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 11:05 AM MDT reply actions
For what? Screwing in a high light bulb?
Thabeet. Maybe.
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This is great!
nearly 50 comments and its not even noon yet! This should be really fun once more of the SLCDunk regulars find out about it.
Nevermind on the rec’ing thing. Ill just post an overflow thread when this gets out of hand.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 11:06 AM MDT reply actions
BYU Football: Harvey Unga or Curtis Brown?
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Ill take Harvey Unga over Curtis Clown
I saw a clip from Unga the other night. He was just dragging both teams down teh field. He is unreal.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Robert Traylor or Oliver Miller?
Who would you rather NOT see if you were owned a buffet?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 11:23 AM MDT reply actions
Option C: Boris Diaw
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Tim Hardaway or Rod Strickland?
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Tim Hardaway
never seemed like a team chemistry killer
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
gotta go with the Dream
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions
The only correct answer is McHale
Sorry guys. I loved Hakeem, but nobody has ever done post moves like McHale in his prime. 60% from the freaking field.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
I think you might be influenced by Bill Simmons' last write up. I think it's closer than the FG% argument suggests, because the dream took more fadeaways and jumpers and was the focal point of the offense.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
I actually haven't read Simmons' latest write up
I don’t go to Grantland that often. He talked about McHale’s post moves?
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
McHale
the Dream had to travel to make it happen. Can you imagine them feeding McHale all game long with sharpshooters outside?
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Jose Ortiz or Robert Whaley?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 12:23 PM MDT reply actions
I'll take the Moustache.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
by clarkpojo on Aug 15, 2011 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dunk Contest: Dr. J or 'Nique?
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Dr. J
More versatile, he could jump off one or two legs. And he really started it all with that foul line dunk in ’76
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Ill bump my earlier one down
JOse Ortiz or Robert Whaley?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 1:07 PM MDT reply actions
Latrell Sprewell or Mitch Richmond?
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Mitch, Part of Run TMC and never choked his coach.
by BobbyD31 on Aug 15, 2011 2:06 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Jordan
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You're supposed to post a new one
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Artest
did you really have to put “more crazy there”? ;)
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions
86 Celtics
My favorite thing about that Celts teams was how much they enjoyed beating the snot out of everyone. Did MJ ever have fun the way Bird and McHale did? I can’t imagine he did.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
by Yucca Man on Aug 15, 2011 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree 100%
I think they are the best team in history. Everytime I hear a story about Bird’s trash talking and stories about McHale you can’t help but smile.
The toughest team ever?
What a team.
Bird and Jordan seem similar in their enjoyment of trouncing people and pushing their teammates.
What a documentary on the Bulls the next year and how much they enjoyed going into opposing buildings.
Remember the Mailman taking the last shot instead of AD and ruining the game at the Garden that year?
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Tough one
but I also really liked the 86 Celts …. and they didn’t have Rodman … only ainge. :)
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
In hindsight '11 Jazz
At least D Will came out of ’05 season
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Best player to with shortened NBA career: Drazen Petrovich or Arvydas Sabonis?
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Sabonis
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Bigger waste of talent: Stephon Marbury or Steve Francis?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 15, 2011 3:55 PM MDT reply actions
Most dreamy?
Jack Sikma or Paul Mokeski or pre-haircut Chris Kaman?
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
Glove
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agree
He used to make trouble for Stockton.
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Bigger defection: Shaq to the Magic or James to the Cavs?
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Whose diesel could haul more cement
The mailman’s or the birdman’s?
mailman!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions
ostertag
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
trash man Adam Keefe!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions
The vanilla gorilla, joel pryzbilla or Ruben Bountje-Bountje?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 7:47 AM MDT reply actions
That's just mean.
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what?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Guy you'd rather have as your capture the flag or paintball team captain
Bronco or Whittingham?
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Nice answer.
I like it.
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Jazz- if it's a good opponent
Glorified exhibition matches aren’t my style
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Isn't that pretty much all of the regular season?
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Jeffersap! You are killing me bro!
Who is your him or him?
Ill go ahead:
Gordan Giricek or D-Steve?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 11:11 AM MDT reply actions
thats what i always called him.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions
a root canal
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Harp x1000
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Well, unless I'm trying to sell on-air ad space.
Then it would definitely, definitely be Boler.
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by JazzHype on Aug 16, 2011 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
koufus or fesenko?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 11:34 AM MDT reply actions
THE KOOF IS OFFENDED THAT THIS QUESTION WAS EVEN ASKED
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by Shums on Aug 16, 2011 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
delta center
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions
jody genessy or Brian t. smith?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 1:15 PM MDT reply actions
BTS as a sports writer, JG as a person
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I like JG better for both, personally
Never really cared for Brian T Smith’s writing style. Jody’s doesn’t make me want to punch him in the face, so he wins.
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speaking from personal experience
Jody.
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2 titles
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Stock & Malone
But I’d rather see the team do well for 20 years than get a championship in 1 and stink for the other 19.
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Better Dominican: Francisco Garcia or Charlie Villanueva
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Villanueva, but they're both pretty awful
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Point forward: AK or Hayward
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Building a new team, 1990. Do you take Charles Barkley or David Robinson?
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Robinson
Smarter player on both ends of the floor, super loyal to the organization, great face of a franchise.
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by JazzHype on Aug 16, 2011 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the correct answer
Charles was overweight and underperforming at least 8 of the 10 years in the 90’s
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
Blogger: Paul Shirley or Boom Tho?
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Boom Tho
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I feel like your answer requires some sort of justification
Shirley is the better writer and probably the better basketball player. Did you answer who you’d rather hang with?
Steve Francis or World B. Free?
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Alex English or Clyde Drexler?
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The Glide
My answer may be totally bogus, since I don’t remember Alex English and the Glide was my favorite non-Jazzman.
But I say the Glide.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
better post a new one of your own or BigBen won't be happy
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Clyde
I remember them both …. but Clyde was better.
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions
This is a tough one. I'm gonna have to go with Mullin
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Juwan Howard (prime) or Charles Oakley?
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Tough one
but I gotta go with Mugsy.
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Better frontcourt: Payton/Hawkins, Thomas/Dumars?
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sorry should be backcourt, not front.
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Round 2: Thomas/Dumars vs. Porter/Drexler
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I like Thomas better as a distributor, so I'd choose them if the bigs are any good
But I like Porter/Drexler better if you need the scoring.
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by JazzHype on Aug 16, 2011 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Go look at Terry Porter's scoring averages
He never topped 20 and many years was under 10. Drexler wasn’t dramatically better than Dumars or Thomas. I’d re consider thinking the Portland duo was better at scoring.
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Well, it *was* a while ago
So my recollections could certainly be a bit biased and wrong.
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I'm going Barkley
Better on rebounds and assists. If that guy had kept himself in shape, his already great career could’ve been premier
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Best Islamic name change:
Lew Alcindor—> Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Chris Jackson—>Mahmoud Abdul Rauf
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Lew Alcindor
His name was much better after the name change. Chris Jackson… opposite. Jabbar vs Rauf… no contest. And even Kareem vs Mahmoud… no contest.
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by JazzHype on Aug 16, 2011 7:40 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
At the very beginning
There should only be one open question (no answers yet) at a time. If you’re the first to respond, you pose your own question.
So to pose your new question, you should have first answered Jeffersap’s open one.
Rules are in the original post by BigBenSportsGuy.
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Well, and in the first few comments after that
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The rules are the text of the fanpost
Basically it’s: answer the last question, then pose a new one.
You posed the Sap vs. Stock question, but never answered Chris vs. Sweet Lew.
As an individual act, I'd have to go with Millsap
If anyone disagrees, you seriously need to go watch the end of that game. The Jazz had no reason to even be in the game. 98-90 with 30 seconds left. Commentators talking about the Jazz dropping to 3-4 and the Heat heading for 6-2.
This is the sequence:
Millsap drains a 3 on a seriously broken play (:28.7, 98-93)
Arroyo 1/2 FTs (:27.3, 99-93)
Deron drains a 3 (:21.9, 99-96)
Arroyo 2/2 FTs (:19.3, 101-96)
Millsap drains a transition pull up 3 (:12.1, 101-99)
Arroyo 2/2 FTs (:10.1, 103-99)
Millsap drains a rainbow 3 while fading slightly backwards off of a horrible pass from D Will (4.3, 103-102)
D Will fouls out trying to deny Arroyo the ball before the ball was inbounded (1 shot and the ball for Miami)
Arroyo 0/1 FT (:4.3, 103-102)
Wade 1/2 FTs (:3.4, 104-102)
Millsap putback off the glass without touching the floor on an awkward rebound off the rim from CJ Miles’ shot (:00.0, 104-104)
In overtime, Millsap had 2 huge free throws at a super clutch time with the Jazz down 4.
The studio commentators said Millsap was 2 for 20 from 3 for his career before sinking 3 in a row at the end of the game. He finished with 46 points on 28 shots. He scored 11 points in 28.7 seconds. It’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen in sports, ever.
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amen. that was pretty crazy.
Ranks up there with some of the great moments of sports- Marcus Allen Super Bowl Run, Reggie MIllers 13 second scoring binge, Lynn Swann’s Super Bowl acrobatics. Just a couple off the few of my head. I realize there are many, many great moments in sports- and Millsap’s Miami game was pretty sweet. I’m glad I witnessed it.
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Yeah, I'd put it up there with Reggie Miller, but Reggie's is definitely better
He had a key defensive play to go along with his offense AND it was an important playoff game. Plus, it was less time, 8 points in 9 seconds. Also, it was pretty smart of him to step back for the 3 after the steal instead of taking the immediate easy 2.
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I think the lower expectations of Millsap help his moment
Also, this was the big, bad Heat, fresh off the Decision. They were still villians. To see 2nd rounder Millsap stick to them was pretty cool. The skill it took and the sheer luck—probably about equal. But Miller’s was in a more important game.
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Paul
Stockton did more amazing stuph …. it was just one open three. :)
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions
That's a toss up
As a Clippers fan, you know that eventually Sterling will die, and as a Portland fan, you know you deserve everything you get for the poison pill contract offers to Millsap and Matthews.
By the way, you guys are killing the game. It’s him or him, not this or that. What we’re heading towards kinda reminds me of So I Married an Axe Murderer:
What’s worse?
You go to your favourite restaurant…
…order your favourite meal,
take a bite…
…and under the steak
is a scabby Band-Aid.
Or….
Or being electrocuted.
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Wow, remind me not to play Uno with you.
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Better SLC Dunk catch phrase: CJ (What up doe?) or Koof (Boom Beaches)
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For Utah or Sacramento?
I’ll take Greg Ostertag, since had a few days on which he could hang with anyone.
I was referring to the 1998 trade
Where the Jazz got Seikaly, but he refused to report because he didn’t want to come to Utah.
He would have replaced Ostertag as the starting C that year.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
I was aware of your subtext
but I was also making the point that unlike SLC, both wound up playing for Sac-town
I used to think Seikaly refused as well,
but I digged down some internet archives. He seemed willing to come- even talked to Karl Malone. But he had a foot injury, and the Jazz appear to have nixed it.
Incidentally, rumors were also swirling around that time that we;‘d bring in Kevin Willis. I’d love to know what one of those two guys could’ve done against the Bulls
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The Bear!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Tough
Both have meant so much.
But the Bear is still entertaining us
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions
More annoying opponent: Scottie Pippen or Kobe Bryant?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 16, 2011 9:15 PM MDT reply actions
Biggest waster of talent: Derrick Coleman or Len Bias (I'd count ODing on draft night to be a waste of talent)?
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Derrick Coleman
Lots of people learned from Len Bias’s mistake. I don’t think anyone learned from Derrick Coleman’s relative mediocrity.
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Both those guys could've been great
Bias supposedly would’ve been on Malone’s level. It is a real shame to see possible generational talents go falllow
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Wayne Estes was another tragic loss, though of no fault of his own, other than chivalry
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Wow, hadn't heard about him. That's awful.
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Wes Matthews
that was painful to see him go.
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5 minutes to go, and your team is down 10. Who do you want closing the game....
Allen Iverson or Tracy McGrady?
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blue edwards, on the strength of his name.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 17, 2011 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions
More frustrating nincompoop: John Amaechi or Luther Wright?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 17, 2011 8:35 AM MDT reply actions
Worse person: David Stern or Voldemort?
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Tom Chambers
Though Bogut has time to over take him
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Bogut just needs to stay healthy for a few seasons
But I totally agree that right now it’s Chambers.
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Worse trading goof: Joe Smith overKevin Garnett or Michael Olowokandi over Vince Carter?
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kandi man
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 17, 2011 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Kandi is the answer to all of these kinds of questions.
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Carlos Boozer or a bag of moldy tangerines?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Aug 17, 2011 8:59 AM MDT reply actions
Courtney Cox is strangely a good actress and at the same time annoying. I'll go with Fredette.
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1991 NBA RE draft. Who goes #1? Larry Johnson or Dikembe Mutumbo
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LJ. Dikembe was the better player, but centers where more available back then. The next year had Shaq and Zo coming out.
I would rather have had LJ and Zo than Dikembe and LaPhonso.
Except LJ and ZO hated each other
Basically it’s what led to the Rice-Zo trade
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Bigger trouble makers: Bad Boy Pistons or JailBlazers
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Jail Blazers
The Pistons were just reputation on the court mostly, right? Maybe Mahorn got in some legal trouble?
Seems like the Jail Blazers were committing “more serious” crimes. Had to put “more serious” because I don’t remember exactly what they were and some here on the board think marijuana possession/distribution is not a serious crime, and I believe that was involved for some of it.
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You have to schedule a halftime dunk show
Bear or the Suns guy who went through the hoop head first by accident?
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Him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOxgiTtfHEY
or Him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac3AzaDohd0&feature=related
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The First Guy
At least the first girl thought about it. Although I like the effort of the second one.
Gordon Hayward or Paul George?
Which would you rather Have?
Gordon Hayward
I really think he could become our Manu.
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Wife's co-worker she sometimes has to stay late at the office with: Kyle Korver or Gordon Hayward?
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Second Year Malone or Second Year Favors?
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 2:50 PM MDT reply actions
2nd year Malone
I have a feeling this may become really interesting when we get to compare ages:
23-year-old Malone (2nd year) to 23-year-old Favors.
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by Yucca Man on Aug 17, 2011 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
it is hard
to compare guys now since they come out early
I like Malone early, but had no idea he would be that good long term.
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions
2nd Year Malone or 2nd Year Hayward?
by Russell Kanning on Aug 17, 2011 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions
2nd Year Hayward
I haven’t seen it yet, but I think the kid could be really special, and I really hope he gets the Playing time he needs.
Howard all day. Not even close
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Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
Devin Harris or Russel Westbrook
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
Westbrook.
all the hate on him is silly. He’s nearly at super star level. Respect that.
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Harris
but only because I am a jazz fan
by Russell Kanning on Aug 18, 2011 6:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Russel Westbrook
I like Devin better as a team player, but all the hate Westbrook got in the finals was overblown. He has improved every year, and he puts up killer numbers. He does everything that devin does on the court better, and he is younger and healthier. Sorry Devin
Mozgov or Fes?
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Fes
Dont know who Mozgov is
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Fantasy football
Vick or Brady
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
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Tom Brady
"Size doesn't make any difference; heart is what makes a difference."
Jerry Sloan
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Maute bol or yao ming
"Size doesn't make any difference; heart is what makes a difference."
Jerry Sloan
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Cedric Ceballos or Dell Curry
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Dell Curry
"Size doesn't make any difference; heart is what makes a difference."
Jerry Sloan
by cjblockingfisher on Aug 18, 2011 12:14 PM MDT reply actions
Bigger Ego Kobe or A-Rod
"Size doesn't make any difference; heart is what makes a difference."
Jerry Sloan
by cjblockingfisher on Aug 18, 2011 12:14 PM MDT reply actions
Kobe
but mostly because I don’t follow A-Rod
by Russell Kanning on Aug 18, 2011 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Wade
This one was tough but I hate kobe more
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Jerry Sloan
by cjblockingfisher on Aug 18, 2011 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Jason Terry or Ginobli
"Size doesn't make any difference; heart is what makes a difference."
Jerry Sloan
by cjblockingfisher on Aug 18, 2011 12:19 PM MDT reply actions
Terry
He doesn’t flop with the same gusto. :)
by Russell Kanning on Aug 18, 2011 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Parker
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Norm Sloan
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Weldon Drew
I think this is kind of funny
Since Ginobili is better than Tony Parker.
I know you didn’t choose Terry over Ginobili, but the situation is funny.
And I’d take Ginobili, Parker, and then Jet … in that order.
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Favors, and Hayward or Blake Griffin
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are you kidding
we used to defend DWill as the best around …… with Griffen all we would care about was monster dunks and celebrate wildly every game
by Russell Kanning on Aug 18, 2011 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll say Griffin right now
But if Favors develops as I think he may … he’ll be close to the offensive player of Griffin plus the biggest defensive beast in the league.
I reserve every right to change my mind quickly.
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How was Dwight Howard's defense during his first couple seasons?
I ask in response to your comment about Favors being a defensive beast, trying to get an idea of development patterns.
The fear I have with Favors though is that he could just be the next PJ Brown too…he and Kanter are giving me fits of fan-xiety. (fan anxiety)
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Stats wise they are very comparable
Everything here is per 36 minute rookie stats (and I’m looking at Favors post-trade)
Blocks: DH-1.8, DF-2.2
Steals: DH—1.0, DF-0.9
Rebounds-DH-11.0, DF-9.3
Scoring, DH-13.2, DF-14.6
Fg%: DH-52.0, DF-52.9
Ft%: DH-67.1, DF-56.1
Assists: DH-1.0, DF-1.5
82games.com doesn’t have this info for rookie Howard, so is is a comparison of both player last year:
PER against: DH: 11.9, DF: 13.5 (PF), 7.2 ©
The average center PER last year was 14.2. Average PF PER was 17.1. So DH held opposing C’s to about 2.5 below league average. DF held opposing PF’s to about 3.5 below league average, and opposing C’s to 7 below league average(!). Favors spent about 60% of his minutes at PF and 40% at C, so the C stat isn’t skewed by a significantly smaller sample size.
DH was a starter, and he played more minutes. That means he was possibly playing more time against better opposing players, plus he had to sustain his level of play for a longer period of time. But still, I don’t know how anyone wouldn’t be encouraged to see these numbers from Favors last year and how they compare to the best C in the NBA.
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by Yucca Man on Aug 18, 2011 5:33 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Yucca
If Favors’ career trends the way Howard’s did, then the Nets will look awfully foolish for trading for D Will. :)
Chris Webber or Zach Randolph?
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Young Shaq
but his free throw shooting would definitely be a liability
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Young Sabonis
Shaq was a monster, but Sabonis …
7’3", great post play—and likes playing in the post—but with 3-point range, good athleticism and shot-blocking instincts, Walton-esque passing and team-play, with a Kirilenko-like panache—Holy hell.
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Better cop: Shaq or Karl?
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lol. Karl. Although Olden Polynice is up there too
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Shaq
he had more of a mean streak ….. see Ostertag
by Russell Kanning on Aug 18, 2011 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions
great link
I guess Shaq is more angry and a cheapshot artist …. and I hope he is not listening.
by Russell Kanning on Aug 18, 2011 5:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Old Sabonis.
Old Shaq was frequently hurt and a smart mouth.
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Grant Hill
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Alonzo Mourning or Dwight Howard?
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Zo
Dwight Howard just doesn’t do it for me. I’m convinced that a portion of his success is related to the lack of great centers today.
I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time
I agree that Howard seems great in comparison to who else there is
Robinson, Hakeem, Zo, Moses, etc would’ve eaten him alive
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Howard
we haven’t even seen his best yet
by Russell Kanning on Aug 18, 2011 5:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Duncan or Kobe?
Probably the wrong forum to post this question, but it’s interesting since they were both in the same draft.
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Better basketball movie: Space Jam or Eddie?
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Depends what role
Totally different size/style players. If we’re talking personality and style though, I’d give it to Mehmet.
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Would look better with a mohawk: Karl or Ron Ron?
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Serge.
PJ’s like eleventy billion years old.
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Not if you don't specify
And I chose to assume 2011 for this one.
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Guy you'd rather play a round with: Barkley 5 years ago w/ old swing or Barkley now with somewhat fixed swing?
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Fixed swing
The old swing would occasionally return, which would be good for laughs. But you wouldn’t spend 3+ hours playing nine holes while he’s chasing his ball all over the course.
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