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My Theory of the Laker Fanbase


So I have a theory that I wanted to bounce off some other people. These findings are completely non-scientific, contain no actual research, and are based on my own personal experience. The results are non-biased (*wink) but I feel accurately describes the fan base of the LA Lakers. I call it my Laker Theory.

Laker Fanbase:

30% - Bandwagon fans who barely understand basic rules of the game. Large majority are girls who consider Kobe to be "hot" despite his lazy eye and hairline that begins at the top of his elongated head.

30% - Degenerate trash reflective of the filth and crime ridden city from which the team comes from.

30% - Rabid Kobe nut-huggers who worship him as the second coming of the messiah. They begin screaming and frothing at the mouth if anyone does not agree that Kobe is the GOAT.

9% - Appears to have an understanding of the game but gives off such arrogance and pompous stench that any reasonable fan is repulsed.

1% - Well informed and respectful but at any given opportunity will easily regress to any of the above categories.

.001% - enjoyable basket ball fans with whom the rest of the league can stomach.

100% call themselves "true" Laker fans and will immediately label any non-Laker fan a "hater"

All comments are the opinion of the commenter and not necessarily that of SLC Dunk or SB Nation.

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Best thing to say to a Laker fan

“Oh, your’e a Laker fan huh? So how often do you go to a game at the Staples center?”
I guarantee you that most of them have never been.

by socaljazzfan on Jan 12, 2012 2:03 PM MST reply actions  

bc they are so expenive

most people cant afford them

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 12, 2012 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

The price is part of it but with the cost of living down here, it's not that big of a factor.

Most of the season tickets are owned by companies to give out as perks to their clients. Most of these clients don’t know much about basketball. For some of the people, going to a Lakers game is about smoozing and being seen. Going to a Clippers game (pre-Blake Griffin) was about going to a basketball game.

by socaljazzfan on Jan 12, 2012 7:29 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL, look at the prices for Laker home games

Hell Laker away games usually sell out faster than other teams (The Heat have taken that role for now)

by Fin Fan Forever on Jan 12, 2012 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

My question to Lakers fans is to ask them who their starting 5 guys are. If they can answer that, then I’ll let them slid.

by TurboJazz224 on Jan 12, 2012 2:06 PM MST reply actions  

what the hell is a "slid"

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 12, 2012 3:11 PM MST up reply actions  

What the hell is a hrghori?

I am in no way affiliated with the blog of the same name.

by JazzHype on Jan 12, 2012 4:08 PM MST up reply actions  

my username...

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 12, 2012 8:41 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
Tweetness

by SoCalGal on Jan 12, 2012 2:55 PM MST reply actions  

Interesting...

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson
"I think that all the silence is worse than all the violence." -Lupe Fiasco

by Marty Mart on Jan 12, 2012 3:03 PM MST reply actions  

When I think of Jazz fans....

Here’s what comes to mind:
1. The crowd booing Derek Fisher when he returned as a Laker after providing solid minutes including a game winning shot and leadership to a team that needed it.
2. Two girls holding up a sign that said “FISHER LIED” referencing how Fisher left the Jazz for the Lakers in order to provide his daugther with the medical attention she needed. Real classy Utah.
3. Still so, so bitter about never being able to beat MJ in the finals.

by (Not)Exactly on Jan 12, 2012 3:04 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for posting that here and not on the Lakers SB Nation FanPost section.

Who are you, by the way? Sounds like you’re part of the 9%?

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by JazzHype on Jan 12, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I love this notion of a "typical" laker fan.

The way I see it, every team is going to have die hard fans. The Lakers happen to have a ton of these because they have been a prominent team for the past half century. But only the truly great teams are going to have band wagon fans. Sure it’s annoying, but it’s a testament to the success we’ve had as a franchise. I bet when Malone, Stockton, Eaton, Bailey, etc. were playing the Jazz had quite a few bandwagon fans too. Probably not so much now _

Seriously though, if you think the “typical” laker fan is the hollywood type with no real bball knowledge or respect for the game, then you’re entire perception about Los Angeles in GENERAL is wrong. Judge all you want but trust me, the city of LA more than any other city in the USA, is the vicitm of so many overwhelming stereotypes.

And yes I’ve seen many games at staples, and I’ve even seen a few at the Great Western Forum. Cheers.

by (Not)Exactly on Jan 13, 2012 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

You're obviously right

that there are plenty of Laker fans that know what you’re talking about.

I find it amusing that you’re saying LA has more overwhelming stereotypes than any other city—and your talking to a fan base centered in Salt Lake City.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM MST up reply actions  

sorry buddy, but it's true

even without getting into specifics, the sheer fact that LA is so much larger than SLC implies that there would be more stereotypes about it.

by (Not)Exactly on Jan 13, 2012 5:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I disagree. Nothing like being a Mormon in Salt Lake to garner automatic stereotypes.

LA has enough diversity that stereotypes are limited to a small portion of the population.

SLC isn’t even really that homogenous anymore, but there’s still a stereotype that it’s mostly white, conservative Mormons. The gays in the community are working hard to overturn that though. SLC was recently voted the gayest city in America or something like that.

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by JazzHype on Jan 16, 2012 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

So you're campaigning to be part of the 1% then?

And I believe that this theory is based on personal interactions, probably mostly in Utah.

I’m curious what you’d put as the breakdown.

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by JazzHype on Jan 16, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm willing to give bandwagon Laker fans a pass, if they don't live in a city that has an NBA franchise.

I grew up in Idaho in the 60’s and 70’s, and became somewhat of a Laker fan at that time, because there was no nearby NBA franchise, and the Lakers were fun to watch and identify with, because they always had good players: Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain (and then Kareem Abdul Jabbar)—which they had usually lured away from some less glamorous franchise, even way back then.

However, after I moved to Utah, I became a Jazz fan, and now I hate the Lakers, because they have an edge in recruiting free agents and good coaches that most franchises don’t enjoy. It has also been easy to hate the Lakers, because of arrogant jerks like Kobe and Phil Jackson being involved with the Lakers. Kobe has been much more tolerable lately, as he has toned down his arrogance a bit. I was truly hoping that Kobe would have to go to prison over that rape charge in Colorado. That could have made life much more tolerable for the past 7-8 years as a Jazz fan.

by Fesenko for President on Jan 12, 2012 3:13 PM MST reply actions  

Of course. As a former prosecutor, I think I understand the issues of that case more than most people.

That being said, I certainly wouldn’t have wanted to be defending a rape case against Kobe in a small, white community in Colorado (where people were probably not beholden to Kobe, but rather, might actually have had some anti-African American racial bias). And, especially when he had admitted to having sexual relations with the woman, and the only contested issue was whether the sexual relations were consensual or non-consensual—that is the most winnable scenario for the prosecution in a rape case. Moreover, he had gone on TV shortly after the rape allegations had been made, and acted very smug, like nothing of any consequence had happened.—which I’m sure would not have endeared him to the jury in the case. The smug attitude he displayed would also have made very believable the statement he purportedly made to the victim, namely, that noone was going to believe her word over his word, concerning whether he had raped her.

My guess is that if that case had actually gone to trial, Kobe would have been convicted. Therefore, his attorney’s did a great job in convincing the prosecutor not to prosecute, on the basis that the parties had reached a civil settlement in the matter.

by Fesenko for President on Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Burn!

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by JazzHype on Jan 13, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I actually have a lot of respect for Kobe in spite of my toungue in cheek view of Laker fanbase.

Mainly because of the respect that he shows to his fellow players in the league. I remember him being very complimentary of DWILL when he was a new player in the league. And more recently toward Haward.

I also remember him showing a lot of respect to Hot Rod Hundley when he retired and the Jazz were playing in the Staples Center.

Plus the fact that he is an amazing athlete….

by Dal Bone on Jan 12, 2012 3:48 PM MST reply actions  

I almost like him because we like a lot of the same music. He listens to suburban white kid from the 90s music.

Like Dropkick Murphys. Weird, huh?

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by JazzHype on Jan 12, 2012 3:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Lol, ya

I loved that one guy who said he never gets called for that offensive foul playing in the park. Must be nice having low BBIQ and living in ignorance.

Utah>*

by Bebop on Jan 14, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd like to congratulate the Laker Fans who posted here

Patrolling the internet, making sure anyone making mean comments about your team are put in their place.

You’re doing good work.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jan 12, 2012 5:45 PM MST reply actions  

Don't forget the ones that

anytime you make a point that they don’t understand or mention a Laker they haven’t heard of (i.e. anyone except Kobe), their only response is, “Well, how many ringzzzz does your team have?”

by moni on Jan 12, 2012 5:48 PM MST reply actions  

Is this the kinda stuff Jazz fans write to help them sleep at night?

Call me arrogant, but seems kind of pathetic.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

by Justin N. on Jan 12, 2012 6:24 PM MST reply actions  

^Pathetic

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 12, 2012 11:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Hmmm ....

Trying to think of the right adjective for a fan who spends his time patrolling other teams’ blogs to call them names.

Thinking …

Thinking …

I think it starts with a “p” …

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jan 12, 2012 11:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Trying to think of the right adjective for a fan who spends his time patrolling other teams’ blogs to call them names.

Fixed.

by moni on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 AM MST up reply actions  

hmmm...

trying to think of the right adjective of a fan base who spends their time bashing a team that has DOMINATED them in recent years.

Thinking…

oh yeah, they have NEVER won a championship…EVER

Thinking…

got DOMINATED by Jordan in the Finals

Thinking…

Their only star in the past 10 years HATED playing their…so he left

thinking…

They had an awesome coach, but even he hated them so he left

thinking…

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 13, 2012 3:17 AM MST up reply actions  

You're going to strain yourself.

I know you Lakers fans aren’t used to thinking.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Jan 13, 2012 6:18 AM MST up reply actions  

This guy pretty much embodies everything that the Lakers organizations is built from. Arrogance and entitlement.

by TurboJazz224 on Jan 13, 2012 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Not to mention

the comments right there show he doesn’t have one lick of basketball knowledge.

He’s got the Laker Fan Trifecta: arrogance, entitlement, stupidity

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jan 13, 2012 9:26 AM MST up reply actions  

yup

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 13, 2012 3:22 PM MST up reply actions  

it's a free a country

i could be wherever i want

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 13, 2012 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

i think you need to get a life

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 PM MST up reply actions  

but you keep asking me questions

Get a life

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 14, 2012 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Dude

He’s entertained.

He keeps wondering how often you’ll keep checking the blog of a team you don’t like.

I’m kinda curious too.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jan 14, 2012 4:13 PM MST up reply actions  

i get a notification

everytime someone responds.

Stop responding, and i’ll stop commenting

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 14, 2012 7:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Why would SLC Dunk want to lose those page hits?

I am in no way affiliated with the blog of the same name.

by JazzHype on Jan 16, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

D-WIll loved playing for the Jazz he even lived here in the summer cause he loved it, it was until the Jazz traded Ronnie Brewer and he wasn’t happy with the move. Deron never indicated he would or would not be back and the Jazz didn’t want to get “LeBroned” or “Meloed”. So they decided to TRADE him. He didn’t leave,
And Jerry DIDN’T hate the Jazz he was coaching for 23 years, I just think he felt that it was time to retire he did say one day he will wake up and think that he doesn’t want to coach he was 68 at the time so it is the time most people retire if I’m not mistaken.
Your almost as bad as the fans that count the NBL championship as one, unless you think that counts as one?

by Mexican Jazz Fan on Jan 13, 2012 9:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Should be plural, since it applies to statments 2-4, but you know ...

You excel at fiction.

I got the crap beat out of me in Provo one time

by Yucca Man on Jan 13, 2012 9:29 AM MST up reply actions  

If you read my post

You will see that I wasnt bashing the team at all

by Dal Bone on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Don't hurt yourself, bro.

By the way, it’s “there.”

"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK

by DWest on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh yeah! At least the Jazz are in an up-cycle and have a pretty bright future right now--and the Lakers are going in the opposite direction, kind of like the Jazz in 2000-2004, or the Celtics in the mid-to-late 90's, and thereafter.

How about that great trade the Lakers made with Dallas a few weeks ago? If Mitch Kupchak keeps making those kinds of roster moves, the Lakers could be in a down cycle for many years to come, despite being in a big market—much like the New York Knicks. Maybe the Lakers should fire Kupchak and hire Isaiah Thomas as their GM, just to seal the deal.

by Fesenko for President on Jan 13, 2012 12:46 PM MST up reply actions  

you say you have a bright future and we are going in the opposite direction

talk to me when that actually happens..

sooo..i guess i will never be hearing from you again

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 13, 2012 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Is today an appropriate day to bring this back up?

Lakers lose again to the Clippers and Utah beats Denver in Denver, with both on back to backs, but the Lakers essentially at home?

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by JazzHype on Jan 16, 2012 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

is it a good timeto bring t his up

Lakers are 2-0 against the Jazz this season…nuff said

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 16, 2012 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I was showing this to a coworker just now and reading through it again.

Is now a good time to bring it back up?

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by JazzHype on Mar 23, 2012 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

MY favorite thing about TRUE faker fans is ......

THEY WILL ALL BE CLIPPERS FANS BY NEXT SEASON! DIE HARD, FANS FROM BIRTH! YEAHHHH GOOOOO BLAKERS!

by UtonganKidInCali on Jan 13, 2012 7:39 AM MST via Android app reply actions  

Even if the Clips win the championship,

the Fake Show’s mindless worshippers won’t have pulled their heads out of their butts far enough to notice. Next season they might have an inkling. Maybe.

"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK

by DWest on Jan 13, 2012 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Let's just take a look at this objectively.

During the height of the Lakers franchise when Magic was at his best, the average game attendance was 17K per game. These numbers are consistent from 1987 through 1991 until Magic retired. Lets take a look at the Lakers final record and corresponding game attendance.

1991-1992 (43 – 39) .524 Average game attendance: 17,055
1992-1993 (39 – 43) .476 Average game attendance: 15,455
1993-1994 (33 – 49) .402 Average game attendance: 13,315
1994-1995 (48 – 34) .585 Average game attendance: 14,418

Hmm, these numbers confuse me. I just cant figure out why the greatest franchise in the NBA suddenly had 4000 extra empty seats, especially when their fan base is so awesome.

Now lets look at the Jazz. The Jazz entered their best years in 85 when Karl was drafted and ended in 02 when Stockton retired. During this period, Jazz game attendance was 19K. Lets look what happened when Stockton finally retired.

2003-2004 (42 – 40) .512 Average game attendance: 19,171
2004-2005 (26 – 56) .317 Average game attendance: 18,756
2005-2006 (41 – 41) .500 Average game attendance: 18,332
2006-2007 (51 – 31) .622 Average game attendance: 19,566

Im no statistician, but to me it looks like the Lakers attendance dropped by 3740 seats when they started to suck, and the Jazz attendance dropped by 839. There ya have it.

Lakers=bandwagon fans.

by TurboJazz224 on Jan 13, 2012 4:10 PM MST reply actions  

This proves what exactly?

The Lakers attendance during 05-06 and 06-07, when the Lakers were in a very similar situation as the Jazz as far as their record was concerned, was damn similar. I’m not gonna bother looking up ‘05 information, I don’t particularly care. This comparison is flawed.

Additionally: There’s a huge cost to see the Lakers compared to seeing the Jazz. That extra cost can make the difference between buying and not buying a ticket to a game (It has for me, several times. =/)

And finally, you’re right that you’re no statistician. You’ve only proven that less people pay tons of money to see the Lakers when they’re losing than when they’re winning relative to the Jazz. This doesn’t show that all Lakers fans are bandwagon fans, or that there are no Jazz bandwagon fans. All it shows is there are more Laker bandwagon fans than Jazz. Was this really such a big revelation?

by Aethereal on Jan 13, 2012 4:59 PM MST up reply actions  

The extra cost is proportionate.

Yes, it cost more to go to a Lakers game but you also must consider that people in LA make more money. The cost of living is not the same.
Also, everytime I see a Lakers game on, I see a lot of empty seats. What’s up with that?

by socaljazzfan on Jan 13, 2012 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

That'd be reasonable if every one in the LA area made more money.

And if that money still wasn’t just as valuable. Spending extra money to see a losing team probably isn’t appealing for a lot of people, bandwagon or not.

by Aethereal on Jan 13, 2012 7:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Why do you need everyone to go to the games?

What’s the population of LA & suburbs? What’s the population of SLC & suburbs? What percentage of the populations would it take to fill the arenas?

How about average salaries? What % of average salary would it cost to go to a game? Why are way more fans willing to make that sacrifice when the team is winning than losing?

Isn’t that pretty much the definition of the bandwagon or fairweather fan?

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by JazzHype on Jan 16, 2012 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Also worth pointing out....

The early to mid 90s were kind of a scary time in Los Angeles. The LA riots were in full force around 1992 and just in case you didn’t know back then the Lakers played at the Great Western Forum in Inglewood, not exactly the heart of south central LA but you really didn’t want to be there unnecessarily.

by (Not)Exactly on Jan 13, 2012 5:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I applaud your creative excuse. Nice!

by TurboJazz224 on Jan 16, 2012 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

A cursory glance at attendance records not using my phone's browser shows me this is really selective as well.

The Lakers from 05-07 actually had a very small dropoff from any of their championship years. As in, the lowest attendance record, 05 when they didn’t make the playoffs, is 205 lower than any other season in the history of the team. I’m very sorry that 1.0791% of Lakers fans stopped showing up when the Lakers went from being a championship contender to a lottery team.

by Aethereal on Jan 13, 2012 7:09 PM MST up reply actions  

You made an entire fan post talking about how other people, that you're absolutely grouping together in an uninformed way,

arrogant arrogant, pompous, rabid, and filth. Does this none of this seem contradictory to any one but me?

by Aethereal on Jan 13, 2012 5:03 PM MST reply actions  

"All it shows is there are more Laker bandwagon fans than Jazz"

That’s exactly what I was trying to show. I’m glad you were able to figure that one out. :)

by TurboJazz224 on Jan 13, 2012 5:05 PM MST reply actions  

Congratulations on showing something that every one knows, and proves very little?

Being a major city team, having a star player who’s in the news a lot, and being title contenders a lot means you get bandwagon fans. Every one could make that observation. It’s annoying for Lakers fans who aren’t bandwagon fans too. But I’m sure you think this lends to the theory that we’re all terrible, filth, arrogant, and pompous.

by Aethereal on Jan 13, 2012 5:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I think it's also pretty obvouis that...

there are more Laker fans in general than Jazz fans, whether that be die-hard or band wagon. It’s a bigger city, go figure.

by (Not)Exactly on Jan 13, 2012 5:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I've lived in both places and I've been to games in both arenas, so I think I'm qualified to judge.

Laker fans tend to be more “bandwagonish” because there are so many different entertainment options. There are multiple pro sports teams, the beach, nice weather to go outside and do other things, etc.
Jazz fans tend to be more “Die hard”. They are the only game in town. Utahn’s also like to go outside and do stuff like skiing, snowboarding and the like, but at night everyone’s a Jazz fan.
I have no evidence to back this up but if there was a game show to test a fan base’s basketball IQ, I’d take the Jazz fan everytime. They are more passionate, they cheer louder, they come early to the game. In short they live and die by the Jazz. They are the NBA’s equivalent of Green Bay fans.

by socaljazzfan on Jan 13, 2012 6:53 PM MST reply actions  

Go Pack Go!!!!!!!!

Show up*
Bold phrase Stupid typos
Give Slack, or give me food (or kill me).

by ThaBullDawg on Jan 14, 2012 4:10 AM MST up reply actions  

There much to be said about Dal Bone's point.

Lakers fans show up and confirm it by adhering to the stereo types.

Show up*
Bold phrase Stupid typos
Give Slack, or give me food (or kill me).

by ThaBullDawg on Jan 14, 2012 4:13 AM MST reply actions  

So, his

calling Lakers fans rabid, filth, pompous, and arrogant, then Lakers fans arguing against that is proof that we are? I’m the only one who sees how being a general douche to a large group of people that you’ve never met 1% of is arrogant and pompous all in itself, as well as just generally crappy?

by Aethereal on Jan 14, 2012 2:49 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Did you miss this part?

These findings are completely non-scientific, contain no actual research, and are based on my own personal experience.

I am in no way affiliated with the blog of the same name.

by JazzHype on Jan 16, 2012 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

A Quote from New Jersey's Deron Williams from Jan 13, 2010

“They have the best fans in the NBA, I believe, game in and game out,” Williams said. “They support the Jazz no matter what the record is, how we’re playing, who we were going up against. They just always had our back.”

by socaljazzfan on Jan 14, 2012 10:03 AM MST reply actions  

of course he is gonna say that

this was from when he was playing there. I bet he says that New Jersey has great fans now too

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 14, 2012 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

No

Lakers Fans acting in the very same manner that Dal describes proves it.

Show up*
Bold phrase Stupid typos
Give Slack, or give me food (or kill me).

by ThaBullDawg on Jan 15, 2012 1:55 AM MST reply actions  

Anything bad in this thread stems from a petty topic.

Along with a lot of crappy follow up posts, from both sides. Feel free to look to the top of the page to see who started with the arrogant attitude that you and every one else here seem to hate so much. And your condescending pair of posts gives off that superior and arrogant attitude as well, thanks.

The team you root for is no indication of who you are, and who you are is no indication of the team you root for. Every body taking this superior tone and badmouthing a group you barely know a thing about is pathetic.

by Aethereal on Jan 15, 2012 8:19 PM MST up reply actions  

It's a FANPOST. i.e. Someone's opinion.

“Every body taking this superior tone and badmouthing a group you barely know a thing about is pathetic.”

Have you lived in Salt Lake? Have you interacted with many Salt Lake Lakers fans? Maybe you wouldn’t like them either. Maybe you would understand why he would break things down this way. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

We wouldn’t be supporting this post if our personal experiences were different from what the poster described. In Salt Lake, a large chunk of the Lakers fans you encounter are either completely obnoxious, completely clueless about basketball, or look really scary and threatening in their mug shots.

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by JazzHype on Jan 16, 2012 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Jazz and Laker Fans...

unfortunately I see ridiculous fans on both sides, however I must say for the most part the interaction i’ve had with lakers fans has not been pleasant.

It just seems for the most part lakers are straight off the bandwagon, i’m sure that there are a great number of true blood fans in the Los Angeles are and scattered about the US, but in states outside of California all laker fans I have encountered will beat you over the head if they win, and you won’t hear a sound out of the fans if they lose. Quintessential personalities that can’t handle being disappointed and have a great deal of insecurities, so they turn to the most consistent winner to be a fan of. It is a sense of entitlement and arrogance combined with an underwhelming knowledge of the game.

Jazz fans are again for the most part, uptight and volatile because they yearn to be heard and not overlooked. The utah jazz is one of the most ignored and overlooked franchises in major league sports, as a result it seems all jazz fans have a chip on their shoulders and try to compensate for it by pronouncing their loyalty and diehard nature to all that can hear. But to be honest its been rather easy for jazz fans of the past two decades, although they have no championships they are constantly overachieving and a consistent winner, so for fans its easy to follow. Certainly there are jazz bandwagon fans as well but they are more localized. I have indeed been impressed however with the logic and composure most jazz fans follow and this blog I think is a good indicator of exactly how realistic many fans are in the midst of a rebuilding/reloading year, and I think they deserve props for that.

by WildcatUte on Jan 15, 2012 2:57 PM MST reply actions  

Utah Jazz fans are among the worst in sports

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/131098-oakland-raiders-utah-jazz-texas-tech-fans-among-most-annoying-in-sports

Reason number one: Their extraordinarily biased reaction to every call made by the officials, and I mean every call. I understand the natural reaction fans all have to a call against our club, but Jazz fans seem to take it one step further. They appear to actually believe no player on their team ever commits a foul or misses a contested lay-up without being fouled.

Think I’m exaggerating? Watch a Jazz home game next time you get a chance. Or even better, if you get a chance, watch a replay of any game against the Houston Rockets back in the good old days with Hakeem Olajuwon. Watch how the fans all become referees, rotating their arms to make the "traveling" sign every time he touched the ball.

Reason number two: The treatment of Derek Fisher. How classless can you get? Well, not much more than they did here. Who can forget when Derek Fisher left the Jazz to go back to the Lakers, citing his daughter’s cancer as the reason? This way he could be in Los Angeles and closer to one of the best treatment facilities in the country.

However, when he returned to play in front of his former team, they booed him every time he touched the ball, and some even chanted "Cancer." Wow. I guess they are above having compassion for him and his family.

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 16, 2012 6:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Ha!

So you’re telling me that Jazz fans are the worst because we disagree with calls more than other fans? Seriously? That’s pretty week, even for a Laker fan….

Oh, I wouldn’t expect you to know this because you’re a Laker fan, but Utah has the premier cancer center in the US, the Hunstsman Cancer Institute. If Fish TRULY thought Cali was the best place for his daughter, I have no problem with that. But the whole thing is still shady if you ask me.

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by TurboJazz224 on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 AM MST up reply actions  

so that makes ok for jazz fans to chant "cancer"

????

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 17, 2012 9:05 PM MST up reply actions  

No, but the extreme fans were a very very small percentage of Jazz fans.

I don’t know any Jazz fan who would approve of such behavior, especially here on the board.

However, I think Lakers fans miss the point when they say that booing Derek Fisher is wrong. They would boo him too if they faced the same situation.

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by JazzHype on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Dude, you're talking about a whole group of people you've never even met!

Where’s Aethereal to call you out?

You know why the Lakers don’t have to whine about calls? Because they get all the calls! If Kobe was treated like Millsap, Laker fans would be just as angry, or possibly even more angry.

BTW, your sources are bleacherreport and opposingviews?

The opposingviews guy is an unabashed Lakers fan for sure:
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sports/nba/lakers-kobe-bryant-gives-world%E2%80%99s-best-excuses-being-ball-hog

Not sure about the other guy, but I would definitely think he was.

Here are some counter “articles”:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/314499-classless-laker-fans-get-rowdy-in-loss-to-cavs

http://california.cityonic.com/los-angeles/are-los-angeles-sports-fans-the-most-classless-sports-fans-in-the-united-states/

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by JazzHype on Jan 17, 2012 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Let’s be fair about this. The writers on bleacher report aren’t really journalists, they are fans who agree to write stuff for their own teams fan section. So that pretty much makes anything on that site extremely subjective.

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by TurboJazz224 on Jan 17, 2012 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly. Oppositeviews is pretty much the same garbage.

They’re both essentially like SBNation FanPosts, only less credible. No offense to any of the SBNation contributors, but unless it’s a huge name like Tom Ziller, I don’t take stuff on SBNation too seriously. And I don’t take anything on Bleacherreport seriously. Ever.

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by JazzHype on Jan 17, 2012 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I think the other dude

(from bleacher report) was a Rockets fan. I mean, Texas Tech? Seriously?

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by DWest on Jan 17, 2012 3:44 PM MST up reply actions  

So he would still be a fan of a conference rival with a serious anti-Jazz history then...

though the Jazz hate has definitely died down some in the last couple of years.

The 2 straight playoff knockouts to the Jazz had those Rockets fans sending some serious bad juju.

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by JazzHype on Jan 17, 2012 5:40 PM MST up reply actions  

my point exaclty

you can find articles bashing fans of every team. tell that to your boy turbo jazz fan. posting shit about raiders and dodgers fans for some reason

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 17, 2012 9:02 PM MST up reply actions  

:)

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by TurboJazz224 on Jan 18, 2012 9:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, but you should have posted articles about Bees, Grizzlies, and Ute fans

if you wanted to stick with the motif.

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by JazzHype on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Lol, exactly.

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by TurboJazz224 on Jan 18, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

but the motif was wrong

i didn’t want to stick with it

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 19, 2012 1:24 AM MST up reply actions  

and this

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/utah-jazz-fans-most-classless-in-all-of-sports

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 16, 2012 6:10 PM MST up reply actions  

You seem to forget

It was Lakers Fans fans that literally threatened to kill any Jazz fans they saw.
Lakers Fans love to riot, win or lose.
Yep,that’s classy.
Deflect all you want, it’s doesn’t change facts.

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by ThaBullDawg on Jan 16, 2012 11:07 PM MST reply actions  

source?

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 16, 2012 11:56 PM MST up reply actions  

It's on Youtube.

Clear as day.

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by ThaBullDawg on Jan 17, 2012 2:21 AM MST reply actions  

do you know how to use the "reply" button?

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 17, 2012 4:07 AM MST up reply actions  

well then post the video here

Kobe: "Listen, if you told me at the beginning of the year that we’ve got two games at home to win a championship, yeah, I’ll take that shit"

by hrghori on Jan 17, 2012 4:08 AM MST up reply actions  


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