Deron Booed Revisited
by adijacjak on Jan 18, 2012 7:01 PM MST
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PrintI never had the opportunity to throw my thoughts out on Friday's Jazz Nets game. I know most have moved on but I feel that I may need to express my thoughts to Jazz fans before I move on as well.
What bothers me most about the ESA booing Deron is that I believe that it could have been prevented by the Jazz. A simple video reminder could have done wonders to remind Jazz fans why we loved Deron for so long. Nothing was done in the arena for Deron before the game started. I heard that Root ran a bunch of Deron and Memo's key highlights which brought a few of my passionate Jazz friends to near tears but nothing was run inside the arena.
Why couldn't the Jazz run a video to soften the Deron blow? I mean, seriously? Kendrick Perkins got a video which lead to a standing ovation. Hell, even Chucky Hayes is getting a highlight video? You telling me that Perkins and Hayes meant more to their teams than Deron did to the Jazz? A highlight video would have been a nice gesture that would have certanly soften the blow.
Sometimes fans need reminders. He did ALOT of good for this community. Help remind the fans of the good times!
Also, I don't remember seeing Greg or Gail sitting in their normal seats. Why would this be? Something more important to do? Wanted to avoid that awkward moment where Deron stares you down as he gets pelted by boos? Showing up and clapping would have been a fair, polite gesture. Greg should have taken the lead in saying THANK YOU!
Too heated now. I'm done. Go Jazz!
Ps. I got D-Will to sign my jersey before the game (made the NBA.com Jazz/Nets highlights too. I'm at the 20 sec mark!) I was holding onto that #8 jersey for the next Jazz season ticket holders signing date. Deron got traded before it happen. The jersey now hangs next to my Stockton and Malone Jerseys as my favorite Jazzmen.
Pss. As I walked into the arena, a sketchy ticket scalper asked me if I brought my jersey to rip it up in front of Deron. I shuck my head and said that I love Deron and there was no need for that. Little did I know that I was in for a disappointing night.
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I agree.
It seems there is a little animosity towards Deron from the FO. I really don’t know, but how the trade went down, and since it seems like the FO has been really cold towards Deron. They say some of the right things, but it is standoffish and without much feeling. I don’t know what it stems from, and anything I say would only be speculation, but it does seem like there is something there.
Me too.
I really believe that Deron was sending signals that he was going to leave and was trying to throw his weight around against the front office. I have no substantiated proof or inside sources, that’s just my perception of the situation. I have a really hard time believing that KOC would preemptively move Deron even to mitigate risk. I feel like there had to be something more.
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Lamar Odom demanded a trade and still got a standing O
sometimes i hate jazz fans.. and did i really read somewhere that some fans booed memo?? if so that is just ridiculous
No one booed Memo
He received applause when he was introduced and when he made his first shot.
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by TurboJazz224 on Jan 19, 2012 9:25 AM MST up reply actions
That's not what other SLCDunkers have been saying.
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I was at the game.
If someone wishes to disagree that attended the game, please feel free.
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by TurboJazz224 on Jan 19, 2012 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
I believe you and I wasn't at the game, I've just noticed that there are those on here who will die believing Memo got booed.
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I had read he was booed.
Then reposted it without finding out if it was true or not. I even replied to myself saying that it might not be true, and I was just going off hearsay. It is nice to know we at least cheered one of our former players who played their hearts out.
I've posted this elsewhere, but there's something more sentimental about members of championship teams.
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Wow, that video is some nice authentication for the autograph!
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I said it before when this first came up
…but is it any wonder that free agents don’t ever consider Utah as a possible destination when they are on the open market? The booing of Deron was deplorable in my book and I agree that Jazz management could have done plenty that would have helped to eliminate a lot of it.
My overall impression of Jazz fans is this:
Passionate – Yes
Loud – Extremely
Supportive of the home team – without question
Knowledgeable – No (present company excepted of course)
Sophisticated – Hell No
It bothers me greatly and I wish it wasn’t so.
Knowledgeable - No? I would dispute that one. Utah's fans are known for being basketball savvy. I'd put this more in a "classy - no" category.
Sophisticated… well considering nearly every restaurant in Utah is assumed to be casual attire (jeans acceptable) by default… can’t argue that. But I don’t even really think sophisticated fits this sentiment as well as “classy” does.
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As always
It’s dangerous to generalize, which is exactly what I’ve done here. And I agree that “classy” works better than “sophisticated”.
But, IN GENERAL I think that the majority of fans that attend Jazz games are not that knowledgeable about the game, or maybe the ones that I’ve talked to over the years don’t articulate it that well. Maybe that’s just what you get when the league as a whole makes going to an NBA game an “entertainment experience” rather than about the game itself. Or maybe I’m just old and grouchy. It just bothers me the reception that Deron was given when those same people that chered him for 7 years suddenly decided he was public enemy number 1.
Well, it's all relative. When one says "knowledgeable", it's usually a comparison to other teams' fans, not an inherent trait.
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So, who are these Jazz fans?
Seems that most SLCdunkers are embarrassed by what happened. Yet, the boos were loud and consistent. So where are these booing Jazz fans? They none bloggers? What’s the profile of a Deron booer?
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It was embarrassing...
I was in the upper deck and there were even some people yelling “Jeeeeerrrryyyy!” when Deron got the ball. A video before the game would have been a great idea, I think the fans that booed are the ones who forgot how much Deron did on and off the court in Utah. Some of us tried to start clapping every time he’d get the ball instead but it didn’t catch on. I think the average “boo-er” will be one who says that they booed him because he supposedly forced Sloan out, unless Deron’s said something about Utah lately I’m not aware of?
Do you really think Free agents don't want to come to Utah because of the way we
treat road players? I think a player would rather sign with the Jazz and have a crowd behind you and loud than playing in front of an empty highlight factory.
The truth I believe is that Free agents may prefer other places for other reasons over Utah, but the crowd at games is a thing that helps us, not hurts us. Earl and Josh Howard both said fan support is a reason for wanting to come here. Remember when there were rumors in December that Earl was going to sign in Atlanta. Earl is a guy that loves the crowd and the fans. He wanted to play here because of it.
by BobbyD31 on Jan 20, 2012 9:23 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well said.
People don’t want to play in Utah because, well… it’s Utah. I believe our fans are the best thing we have going for us, closely followed by our excellent management.
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by TurboJazz224 on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
I will rec this because it's almost exactly what I said elsewhere. So clearly I agree with it.
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But I don't understand Arrested Development. So there's that.
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Conspiracy!!!!!
I feel like the FO led us to believe it was deron that pushed coach out. i feel like they knew jerry was going to hang it up. having us believe that deron was the bad guy behind this, justified the trade. If Sloan never retired ,they know the fans wouldn’t have let them deal deron away. KOC is a grump that will deal somebody just to show he has the power.
Deron wouldn’t have left us hanging. He was to deep with the community, he had his roots planted. The FO knew they had the oppertunity to deal him away and they took it. They delt him knowing that people would believe it was Deron that ran Sloan out. Jerry was a worrior. Deron, (aside from his attitude towards the media) was also a worrior. They could bump heads all day long and never quit. At the end of the day, the FO wanted Jerry out and probably wanted Deron out. They knew they could blow up the team and get whatever they wanted for Deron. If they would have extended Wesley we wouldn’t be going through this, we would be contending.
p.s. Imagin if they did all this with the plan of signing Deron back when he becomes a free agent. one can only wish.
"The FO wanted Jerry out and probably wanted Deron out"
Hard to take that seriously.
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how is that hard?
You dont think they ever wanted to start over before Jerry retired? you dont think they were waiting for the oppertunity to bump Ty up? How do you think it would look if they MADE Jerry step down? Perception is key. Now, how would the community perceive the FO or Greg if they openly MADE Jerry step down. They were waiting for the moment. They knew they could deal Deron and get any rebuilding peices they wanted. I dont beleive Deron would have left.
But either way, still my favorite point guard. How can you not cheer for that hesitation crossover ? Especially when he would step back and stick the 3?!?!?!?
by mthelochness on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Nope, I don't think anyone wanted to lose Jerry, personally. Deron, maybe, but not Jerry.
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really?
you dont think the FO was ready for change? you dont think FO ever thought about it? lol of course I didnt want to lose Jerry and im sure you or any other Jazz fan didnt wanted to lose him. im just saying, i can see the FO waiting for the oppertunity to move on. something happened that night after the bulls game. something between Jerry and the FO. Not between Jerry and Deron.sure they probably had a few words.But Deron didnt push him out. therefore i dont think its right to boo Deron, is what im trying to say. lol. eventhough its all talk. thats what i believe. i’v been a jazz fan since i can remember. im sure the FO was eager to move on and start something new. im sure their thoughts of rebuilding didnt stem from Jerry leaving. that was in there head before that. i dont think Jerry was up for rebuilding a team. this is a business, you would be foolish to think the FO never wanted Jerry to step down. they knew Jerry wasn’t going to last forever. Just like they thought Deron wouldnt be around forever. I feel like they made their move in both situations.
I read a LOT of things when all this went down, and the following is what I pieced together of the situation.
Jerry was upset with Deron for not running the play that Jerry called at the end of the game. Jerry was upset and wanted to punish Deron with a suspension or something similar. Management, knowing that Deron was already upset with the situation in Utah, wouldn’t stand behind that. Once Jerry knew the management was standing behind the player more than him, he stepped away. Management, knowing that they probably already made the wrong decision, traded Deron because they refused to let him dictate how the organization was run.
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by TurboJazz224 on Jan 20, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
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