Game 16 – January 25, 2012: Toronto Raptors @ Utah Jazz
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 5:51 PM MST
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I love it when the Utah Jazz and the Toronto Raptors play. And I also hate it. When I was a kid, and living in Canada in the pre-internet / pre-league pass days it was one of the only times outside of the playoffs where I could see the Jazz on TV. Today, it’s a situation where I feel bad for Canada’s team getting killed over and over again. The Canadian media (and many fans) grew up learning to understand, appreciate, and respect the Jazz as a result. (Don’t believe me? See how a Canadian beat writer reveres the team Jerry Sloan built, or how Canadian bloggers also point out when we’re doing great.) I don’t sense that the admiration goes both ways across the border – even our beat writers would rather make up some crazy story about their passport than head north to cover a Raptors game. (Hee hee hee) The Raptors aren’t the perfect team, but they have a number of good players – they recently beat the Phoenix Suns, and before that the Minnesota Timberwolves. They’ve had a horrible schedule filled with numerous road games. On the flip side we’ve experienced the opposite, home game after home game. One could argue that the Jazz aren’t as good as their record; and by the same token, perhaps the Raptors aren’t as bad as theirs is? If either of those statements are valid then we’ll be in for a good game tonight.
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Sight Reading:
On paper this looks like a decisive advantage for the Utah Jazz. Our offense is coming around (#11 in PPG, #12 in point differential, #11 in offensive rating), and our defense only allows 0.7 ppg more than the other team does. The Raptors, on the other hand, are having a number of struggles on offense. This is the only time these two teams will play one another this season, so it’s not like we’ll get a chance to make it up if we drop this game. Toronto’s offense isn’t fantastic, but if they can slow down the pace and keep the game close they have a number of guys who are legit NBA scoring options (Andrea Bargnani, Leandro Barbosa, Linas Kleiza, and DeMar DeRozan for starters…). Furthermore, Jose Calderon is averaging 8.8 apg. And this team is super slow (24th slowest pace). That means he’s doing a great job distributing the ball in the halfcourt. If the Raptors sped it up Jose would average over 10 apg easily.
I think this game is going to be won or lost in the paint. Both teams are Top 10 in blocked shots. The Jazz don’t turn the ball over much, so it’s not likely that the Raptors will get easy, fast break buckets. And the Raptors don’t get lit up from the outside, forcing other teams into shooting in the very low 40 fg% range. Lastly, the Raptors are 7th best this season in defensive rebounds, and 7th best this season in total rebounds. Contrasting that, the Jazz are 2nd best at NOT giving the other team a lot of total rebounds. Things are going to get mucky inside as both teams have a penchant for being whistled for fouls. It will be messy, indeed.
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Much more info after the jump!
Recapitulation:
These teams haven’t played each other yet this season, the Jazz have won the last 12 games against the Raptors... like we talked about here, there have been about 2600 days pass since the last time the Raptors beat the Jazz.
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The Beats and the Rests:
According to this, the Raptors have much better players than we do. Statistically could very well be true, however I think our team is greater than the sum of its’ individual parts. Also, I think we have more bench depth as well. James Johnson and Aaron Gray are new additions to their starting line-ups, but bring a number of great hustle plays to their teams. I’m interested to see what they can do out there.
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Soloists:
I think both fan bases would actually love to see something out of DeMar DeRozan and Gordon Hayward; however, it’s going to be yet another Paul Millsap vs. the world show. (Is he Scott Pilgrim?) Tonight’s PF du jour is Andrea Bargnani – who is outscoring Millsap and has a much more recognized inside-outside game.
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The Remix:
In previous seasons the Raptors were a much more potent club that could run and gun against any team in the league, they had a speedy attack, and lots of three point shooters . . . this year’s squad appears much more equipped for the Eastern Conference’s grind-it-out game. They have a number of big guys who are bangers, and they are not afraid to foul people in the paint. In a way, this year’s Raptors teams are like a number of post-Stockton and Malone Jazz teams.
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Liner Notes:
Everyone is pretty much healthy for both teams!- Big Al will not play tonight
- The Raptors are without their 1st round, pick #5 rookie: Jonas Valanciunas; who will join the team next season. Some speculate one of the reasons why the Jazz took Enes Kanter instead of Jonas was because of the curious contract situation Jonas has.
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- Raptors Republic [TrueHoop Network]
- Raptors HQ [SBN Blog Network]
- The Score.ca ‘s Raptors Blog [The amazing Scott Carefoot @ScottCarefoot and Joseph Casciaro @JosephCasciaro]
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i'm kind of scared now
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:13 PM MST up reply actions
No big al brings to forefront our GREAt idea of having only 4 bigs. what if sap gets in foul trouble . . . ?
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 6:14 PM MST reply actions
you give Jeremy Evans some burn
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:15 PM MST up reply actions
i hope he gained 20 pounds over night . . .
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 6:23 PM MST up reply actions
maybe he can guard Bargnani on the preimeter?
yojimbo is jazzed
2011-2012 is our 2012-2013 pre-season
i know Toronto has some big guys inside
but it’s not like they’re playing Hakeem or Shaq… if Gray or Alabi can overpower him, he can start running circles around them… let’s hope the kid can hold his own… i’m in a positive mood today
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:28 PM MST reply actions
I want to see if we run more, which may help us if we go "small"
But the Raptors can go small too.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 6:32 PM MST up reply actions
btw
remember when Hakeem was ON the raptors?
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 6:35 PM MST up reply actions
wow... weird flashback... i do remember... i loved Hakeem
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:36 PM MST up reply actions
They have one of the slowest paces in the league though
Upping the tempo could be to the Jazz’ benefit
i hope we can have a good night from Favors and Hayward
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:37 PM MST reply actions
+20 +15
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:44 PM MST up reply actions
Coach Nissalke
Nissalke thinks the Jazz are going to start Hayward on Bargnani and Scotty G thought he was crazy.
lol
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:46 PM MST up reply actions
It's gonna be an inside battle for both teams.
Want to see the Jazz come out strong and beat teams they’re suppose to beat.
When it says Turn Overs (own) 3th. . . I laughed at that btw,
but does that mean the Jazz have the 3rd most or the 3rd fewest TOs per game?
fewest i think
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:49 PM MST up reply actions
3rd fewest
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
no big Al no problem
right? Isnt it? Anyone? Oh no what if Im wr0ng
by utahjazz-philippines on Jan 25, 2012 6:50 PM MST via mobile reply actions
i think we can survive
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
Get Coach Corbin over .500
Man, I hate it when I see on the t.v. introductions that Corbin is under .500 winning percentage. Is it unrealistic to hope for him (and the team) to get over the mark by the end of the season?
feel the same way, i don't know if we can achieve that this season
but i really think eventually he will end up with a positive record
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:56 PM MST up reply actions
Can we at least have Millsap and Favors
rated better than Bargnani and Amir Johnson respectively?
No offense to Bargnani. He’s a great scorer, but what else can he do?
Espn
there playoff predictions have us finnishing in the playoffs. If it ended the way they have it we would play teams the Jazz could beat upto the WCF. heres hopin’
Can we sign Fes?
Like, right now?
On a serious note, I think we can handle this game without Al.
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by Rafael Amarante on Jan 25, 2012 6:57 PM MST reply actions
That too.
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by Rafael Amarante on Jan 25, 2012 7:00 PM MST up reply actions
Def a lil worried about al being out.
But i think we got this
Utah>*
He has been playing much better this year though
Not nearly the blackhole he was last year.
Utah>*
GO JAZZ GO!!
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:59 PM MST reply actions
has the game started yet?
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 6:59 PM MST reply actions
they are non-homers
and always say good things about the jazz. i’ve seen them a lot
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 7:08 PM MST up reply actions
Happy Australia Day, fellow Jazz Fans Down Under!
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Half a day to go
And I’m on call for work, so technically not a ‘holiday’
But thanks!
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me too!! i need me some Boler + Harp
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:02 PM MST up reply actions
Aye
Not pleased with that. How hard would it be for the NBA to allow us to choose the feed we want on ILP?
Yeah, there's probably blackout/money at play. Or something
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to quote one of the greatest
“let’s play the basketball” #44
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:04 PM MST up reply actions
we will miss your pics
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by Evans Almighty on Jan 25, 2012 7:03 PM MST up reply actions
Oh man...
It feels good to be back here! I didn’t know what to do with myself the past 3 nights. Is that a bad thing?
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don't worry, same here
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:06 PM MST up reply actions
Sup BC
Hope you watched some movies. I finally watched Moneyball. Was impressed.
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I liked Moneyball...
Caught The Artist on Sunday, and then went and saw a movie at Sundance (Nobody Walks) last night. Helped fill the void haha
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by Evans Almighty on Jan 25, 2012 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
i feel like Favors might be a better fit guarding Bargs, instead of Millsap
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:07 PM MST reply actions
are you underestimating millsap
i think favors is much better around the rim which is where barn yawny will be
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by Evans Almighty on Jan 25, 2012 7:10 PM MST up reply actions
Bargs is just too tall
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:11 PM MST up reply actions
we are doing the jazz fan wave on twitter if you want to get involved.
its easy.
go to my twitter page @SportsFanUtah
look for my most recent "retweet this if…. " with the hashtag #JazzFanWave and retweet! any participation is much appreciated!
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 25, 2012 7:08 PM MST reply actions
Jazz Fan Wave has not caught on at all.....
probably done too much. not one retweet so far. ill probably try it later in the season.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 25, 2012 7:12 PM MST up reply actions
Good luck getting it going.
I probably won’t ever join twitter.
the rapt0rs blog
says that devin is ab0ut to enter his retirement h0me
by utahjazz-philippines on Jan 25, 2012 7:08 PM MST via mobile reply actions
some Jazz blogs feel the same way :P
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, spend some time on Twitter when he has an off night
sheesh
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let's hope for a good game from Devin
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:11 PM MST up reply actions
To boost his trade value?
I kid, I kid. . . sort of.
come on come on come on
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:13 PM MST reply actions
I like the early aggressiveness...
We need to get some easy buckets after the layoff.
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Oh golly
My feed is showing Bobcats getting blown out by the Wiz #UtterlyUnwatchable
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JAZZ BASKETBALL.
Whhhhat, you know it!
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
MonSTARZ forever!
He was int he restricted area.
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True
But made me think of the amount of charges that have been called this season. I dont have stats, it just seems like every game I watch there are a nunch
Weird, it wasn't updating
Wanted to talk about the game! Looking awesome as we should
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 7:23 PM MST up reply actions
The Western Conference has too many good teams
The Rockets are playing well as of late…
i love that we are driving into the paint
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:16 PM MST reply actions
Certainly opens up the paint for him to drive
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These raptor announcers are terrible
favors went to georgetown. sheesh
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by Evans Almighty on Jan 25, 2012 7:19 PM MST up reply actions
I remember these announcers
AND JOSE CROSSES HALFCOURT!
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Boone cracks me up
one of his keys to the game was Favors staying out of foul trouble containing Aaron Gray. What?
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 25, 2012 7:19 PM MST reply actions
LOL
that was the most late and laziest flop ever by Calderon there. Glad it didn’t get called.
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devin is angry
he is on a missi0n
by utahjazz-philippines on Jan 25, 2012 7:20 PM MST via mobile reply actions
So how do we look after the layoff for those of us that are stuck in class and can’t watch the game?
Harris is taking it at Jose
Perhaps he thinks Jose looks like BTS
#journalism #unprofessional
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i need Hayward to score early... if not... i start to feel anxious... i can't help it
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:21 PM MST reply actions
Ha
Me too. I feel like I’m holding my breath until Hayward gets a score.
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exactly
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:23 PM MST up reply actions
He's doing the other things
Really like his rebounding ATM, his positioning is great
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Oh, I know
I’m just an anxious parent desperate for his kid to be awesome at everything.
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Yucca has got to have his favorites
what’s up with that? AK? Hayward? Much too attached. ;)
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He's the mid-air magician
Kinda like how Shawn Kemp would say, jump and decide afterwards.
Jazz came out with fire...
No coming out listless and uninterested.
sorry for the lack comments by me
hopefully more in the 2nd half
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 7:24 PM MST reply actions
So excited to see how the Favors/Millsap combo works out
Let’s get this game Jazz
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The JAzz are playing so well
that we scored during the time out.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 25, 2012 7:25 PM MST reply actions
Catching the Jazz game on Australia Day?
No better way to celebrate!
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It seems they're making Millsap play Al's low post game
Don’t like it. Stick to playing like a guard ’sap
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He's playing Al's role in the Flex
It will make more sense when I finish and put up my post about the Flex
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Hayward is a pretty good defender man,
never expected him to be this good.
Like I was saying,
don’t know whether the Raps are tired but the Jazz flow smoother without Al.
the things that excits me
is that we are playing well and indivual players have so much room for improvement
the only player playing to there potential is millsap and maybe bell
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Raja has only been to the line 6 times before this trip all year long?
Yikes
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Yeah these raptor callers stink
I miss the Clipper guys. They were quite impartial!
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I can't stand homers, ours or anybody elses
Give me the TNT crew, even if it means listening to SVG
THIS A MILLION TIMES
‘the painted area’
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That alley-oop to Favors just brought a tear to my eye
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OMG
that alley oop to Favors was SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK.
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wow!!!!!
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:28 PM MST reply actions
Well it seems
Devin Harris like to drive it in and lob it rather than, make an entry pass to Big Al and have him made the decisions.
Maybe Harris is allergic to Big Al
How else do we explain this game for him. He’s playing Deron-like.
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He could chow the rest of the game and it would still be the best of the year
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Bad pass by Harris in the fast break.
But he made up for it.
harris
is
Everywhere.
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WOW!
Who put Watson in Harris’s body?
Freaky Wednesday?
even the homer raptor callers spotted the charge
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Block.
He slid across into the path, didn’t give Bargs any room. Good call, unfortunately
(I ref, BTW)
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I thought he was leaning a little as well.
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AYC on Tuesday nights
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looks like Raptor is on the menu
and what’s up with Harris? wow
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Love Toronto's radio guy.
Listening to his accent reminds me of my uncle (who is from Alberta).
"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK
like i said, Canadians
always nice : )
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 7:34 PM MST up reply actions
Canadians
The BEST kind of Americans
runs
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They're using their back-to-backs and Utah's lucky home schedule as excuses
But they’ve also been very complimentary
Seriously what did Harris eat for breakfast this morning???
by Soupe on Jan 25, 2012 7:33 PM MST via Android app reply actions
the blu-ray for the movie "crank"
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 7:35 PM MST up reply actions
Fouls of Favors
I’m watching the game cast, were the fouls actually good calls or was Favors being a young player?
I missed the first one.
But he was trying to take a charge on the second, and just missed getting into position.
millsap has become so smooth
love to watch him on the court
"smooth"
is a good adjective. Like Jazz smooth, right?
watch him move around the key, or handle the ball
even his time running out shots look like they are in the flow.
smooth seems to work
I mean,
he does it so effortlessly, it seems. Never forceful or out of control.
I love this team
but the refs are going a little nuts. let’s save some of these foul calls for when we’re playing a Top West team
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 7:34 PM MST reply actions
Harris already with 12/4
Favors with 3 points and 5(!) rebounds
Boo, Jazz
I was looking forward to a 40-18 1st quarter.
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Howard seems a little off.
He is for sure playing like he has some rust.
Yep, we got another new name tonight
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awfull stretch to close the quarter
too unorganized in both ends of the floor
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:40 PM MST reply actions
2nd Unit
Funny how the stats don’t usually show it but Favors has a HUGE impact in the 2nd unit’s defense.
nice observation
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:42 PM MST up reply actions
what happened to the double digit lead?
by utahjazz-philippines on Jan 25, 2012 7:41 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Harris and Millsap started it strong for us
we need one more guy to carry us. Usually CJ comes off the bench and scores for us.
Have I mentioned that I love it
When CJ slashes to the tin?
(one for the old time Dunkers)
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deron 34 and 11 for joisey
he has really become a volume shooter there
That team is so bad.
He has to shoot like that. Also he has been super clutch in the OT.
Nice to see the aggressive drives
So much easier when Big Al’s not clogging up the paint
we gotta just bury these guys.
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 25, 2012 7:44 PM MST reply actions
they have some athletic wings
could cause us probs
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we have no SG to keep up with barbosa... CJ can't guard him
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:44 PM MST reply actions
When did Josh Howard morph into 'Bad' CJ?
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never cared for wholesale squad subbing
especially when tea was in the flo
Watson
Court leader for the second unit. Too bad they let that lead slip away.
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He needs to lead them to step up defensively.
Getting back in control starts there.
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We need Favors in there
that’ll be great for our interior defense…
Probably why the second unit is doing poorly.
Love Jeremy Evans, but Watson and Favors are the focus of the second unit.
by d.row on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
was thinking the same
surprising change of pace
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so many stupid mistakes
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:46 PM MST reply actions
This is no bueno.
Kanter doesn’t look good without favors with him.
Utah>*
Don't know why coach didn't go with the
super combo of: Favors and Kanter
favors in foul trouble
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM MST up reply actions
so yeah . . . i'm not so crazy for thinking we'd get a game tonight
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM MST reply actions
i jinxed us
with Raptor on the menu . . . bah
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM MST up reply actions
pretty bad lineup... no one there can run with barbosa, wee need burks or raja
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:48 PM MST reply actions
Jazz only weakness
against athletic guards.
Corbin's learning.
Will become a strength in time.
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Could have be worse
When I hear the name Bayless, it makes me think of Skip…
by flibbidy on Jan 25, 2012 7:52 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I've gotta believe
That Ty has already seen that he can win this game when he needs to and that right now he’s just trying out some different combos.
You guys buy that right?
Kinda
It’s the L, you have to respect everyone
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he looks like a little kid who needs to wind up
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please god no more evans
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:52 PM MST reply actions
Is this the Kleiza that killed us while on Denver?
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Maybe Amar could do a statistical analysis
of all the no-names that have career nights against us. ;)
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I thought the Raptors were a half court team
they are pushing it well
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wow... awful
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:54 PM MST up reply actions
Our bench aren't playing well against the zone
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and on top of it... they're not playing good defense
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:55 PM MST up reply actions
ha ha ha...
Did Harpring really say that he was going to coach Evans in the dunk contest? too funny!
So question. Is Favors more of a PF or a C?
Seems like we play him as a C more often than not.
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The excitement of the Raptors bench is bothering me.
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what?!?!?
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:56 PM MST reply actions
Jazz need to find their composure
that’s all…
Hey remember when Harris dominated this game and hasn't played since the 4 min mark in Q1?
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Yep
Coach is giving the3 2nd lineup some burn
Put it this way: our second unit is playing like crap and the Raps still can’t get back in the lead
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why on earth are we keeping this lineup??
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:57 PM MST reply actions
HE WENT STRAIGHT UP!
Well done, big fella
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12 min of game time with no harris
wonder if he got hurt?
He returns as soon as you post that...
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No one gets to say he has no post moves, ever again.
He is going to be legit.
cj makes me so mad
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 7:59 PM MST reply actions
Watson?!
Man, slow down…out of control right now.
Less intimidating when they call him Andrea
In America, it’s a girl’s name you know
i had a feeling we would let htem back in....
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by BigBenSportsGuy on Jan 25, 2012 8:03 PM MST reply actions
Zone defense > Jazz.
Soon every team will just play it exclusively against us.
Well the good teams/coaches will do it first.
And the bad ones will just copy.
if they do that we will work out how to play against it
Works better as a weapon D
It’s so weird to me seeing pros struggle against a zone, I grew up playing against zones pretty much exclusively
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Millsap is yet again, the PF Terminator
Bargnani: 2-7, 7pts, 1 reb, 3 assists, 2 TO’s
Millsap: 4-8, 11pts, 3 rebs, 0 assists, 0 TO’s
AND 1BLK ON ANDREA
but he just made a bucket after the blk =(
Give him time, it will happenq
He’s only a kid still
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He was pretty good against Phiily
Not completely dominant, but damn good.
by flibbidy on Jan 25, 2012 8:07 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
I think he doesn't dominate games because he is at best the 3rd option out there.
And that is with Big Al out. When he gets touches he usually does good things with them. And he has a HUGE impact on defense. But if you put him on a bad team without other offensive options, he would put up numbers that would be amazing.
he's not ready to dominate
not remotely – other than on the defensive end
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He is closer than you are implying.
He isn’t ready, but he only has a couple huge holes in his game. 1. His FT% needs to go up. Has to. 2. He needs to not pick up cheap fouls, and work on his composure. Other than that, what else is a glaring weakness?
he's not ready
he doesn’t have the offensive repartee and doesn’t need to right now – he’s what 20? – he is at his best when he is focusing on defense. i completely disagree with you guys on this. sorry man
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I am not arguing that he needs to be dominating games.
I am arguing that it is impossible for him to dominate games playing with Al, Millsap, and others who are not going to give him the opportunities he needs to dominate on offense. And if he were on a team with little talent, where he got a ton of touches he would put up good numbers, and probably lose a lot of games. I am fine with him not being the focal point on offense, but you are wrong if you don’t think he has the skills and talent now not to be. Like I said, almost every time the balls goes into his hands he does good things with it.
i see he has his opportunities and does a good job
it would be very different I think if he found himself as the focal point – whole different ball of wax
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He wouldn't put up crazy numbers every night.
Consistency would of course be an issue. But I guarantee if he were the focal point, you would see games where he put up 30/10+. For sure. He has the tools, and he has already learned quite a few post moves.
You really don't think if he could have dominant games?
As the first option in an offense?
not right now no
double teams, the mental aspect of it, defensive focus. i’d like to see him dominate (on both sides) the minutes that he gets as it is – first.
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look how SAP has evoled his game over the years
Favors hopefully will do the same
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As I am typing this I am watching Favors reverse layup.
I don’t think it is a minutes issue, so much as an opportunities issue. He just doesn’t get a ton of touches with the team he is on. And like I said, almost every opportunity he has gotten to do something offensively, he has responded positively. What else can he do?
that's exactly what i was going to comment on
that is a relatively simple post move that he should make – you don’t do that with game time. do it in practice time and off-season. simple head fake or better body positioning.
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. . . Why not?
If that is the move you have to make to score? I mean he might be able to go straight up, but the defense is there to stop him. If he CAN go around them, he might as well.
Flop by Harris.
But he certainly had that spot, he just wanted to make sure the ref saw.
It was a charge.
But he flopped if that makes sense.
we are missing layups...
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:06 PM MST reply actions
Can I get a "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
GIF meme, please? (I still haven’t figured out how to post them.)
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game of runs
let’s hope we have a few more in us
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Corbin need to get these guys together at the break
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:08 PM MST reply actions
Which is more frustrating?
Giving up the huge lead, or getting way behind and having to catch up…
Both resulting in a tie at hafltime
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Second unit got hit with a zone
And didn’t execute well enough
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too much dumb mistakes and TO
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:08 PM MST reply actions
GOOD TAKE HAYWARD
don’t get ur confidence down. Keep doin it!
I'm stuck listening to the Raptor's announcers...
i guess everyone else is too…
what’s with the guy with the weird canadian/boston accent
that guy is the only american on their annoncer team
ha ha
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 8:18 PM MST up reply actions
and he's the one I despise
the other guy is alright.
Utah>*
fry sauce, heads on sticks, who weighs more . . .
yup.
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 8:24 PM MST up reply actions
And Toronto is not New York
I don’t understand why the color guy is such a wise guy
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 8:12 PM MST up reply actions
basketball is a game of runs
lets hope for the best in the 2nd half
by utahjazz-philippines on Jan 25, 2012 8:10 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Jazz let Barbosa bring the Raps back
Mavs Beaubois did the same to us. These athletic guards do as they will against us. 2nd half, Jazz will come back and play their game.
Role Players
for some reason, we can hold main guys to bad nights, but somebody completely random comes along and the team goes “Um…..WTF?”
we need to do better if we want to win this
Hayward is a bit out of control, not typical for him
we need to attack the paint, the Raps foul more than any other team in the league
we need to take better care of the ball and keep the defensive rotations tight, we lost Bargs in a couple posesions and he scored easily
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:16 PM MST reply actions
Hope the Jazz run the Raps out of the building in the 3rd
they should have the advantage
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Jan 25, 2012 8:18 PM MST reply actions
Houston lost at home agains the Bucks... thanks Bogut
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:21 PM MST reply actions
Raja's shot looks SO much better.
Really having a kid is all it took?
Ding ding ding!
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Wow, you are WAY ahead
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So pretty
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Sap just dominating
with good passes, good defense, and finishing baskets…does it all.
That wasn't a foul... at all...
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You and I have combined for as many baskets as Hayward tonight...
That’s not a good thing
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This is way too close of a game
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don't lean backwards hayward!
put more into that shot!
Jazz need to push the tempo
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Jazz D is having trouble helping out
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Right,
Raps have one of the worse offenses. Jazz need to focus.
Good job for Hayward selling the call
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AWESOME
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Too bad that was goal tending on the Raps.
Loved the block by Favors, lol.
What's he up to now? Seems like he could go for 40 tonight
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Great help D by Millsap, but left 1 v 2 for the rebound
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Hayward needs to shoot that open three me thinks
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I love Hayward...
but he needs to be on the bench right now
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This, unfortunately.
I like Eric, but Hayward should be the much better player at this minute.
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those layups
are opening up his shots, and giving him confidence
Well I have finally returned!
Who missed me?
Go Jazz Go!
Hayward needs to take a deep breath and just chill for a few.
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Yep. Needs to appreciate his playing time and play aggressively but smart.
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agree
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:35 PM MST reply actions
here's a theory
Who has ever been playing terrible, rumor has it that they are on the trading block. Harris has bounced back, at least for now…
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I might vomit.
I would be pretty broken up if they even suggested trading Hayward.
hey all,
I’ve been trying to use the new app on my tablet, but am a bit confused. The gameday thread won’t show up for me on the app??
oh, and GO JAZZ!!!
Nice move Gord...
hope that gets you going!
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That most road games stat is pretty huge.
Jazz have only played 5 road games, Toronto 12… hard to gauge how good teams are when there’s such an imbalance.
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I like that Hayward was patient on that shot.
He knew he had time, and let the defense overreact.
FLEX CUT!
I’ll explain that in my next piece
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It's half done
need to get some screencaps in there
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Nice nice... big guys w/ great vision & passing... love it
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Sonny Weems
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He still had the name
Remember 2011, Bosh was an uber-super-star according to ESPN and Co.
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The same ESPN that said that Tebow was amazing?
Yeah I don’t trust them…
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I also think Bosh will end up with a better career than Vince
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Which is sad
Because Vince was my hero back in junior high
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bigger question is
Why does Canada still have a team?
by KaBar6 on Jan 25, 2012 8:42 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Because they winner the Seattle vs. Canada battle
Loser loses team.
by king.nothing on Jan 25, 2012 8:43 PM MST up reply actions
Fans show up right?
I mean Toronto is a good market.
How does a guy that tall miss that shot? Seriously
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guys not shy about taking every shot
He can make it from any spot. Definitely can be a big time scorer.
we need to take care of the rebounds, we are letting them get too many O boards
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:41 PM MST reply actions
What's up errybody?
How come we keep leaving Bargnani wide open?
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Because we are that good.
How about that Cougar game? Pretty great game eh?
Well other than the 3 point shooting. 3/22 is horrible. Thats my church ball stats for one night.
by king.nothing on Jan 25, 2012 8:44 PM MST up reply actions
That was an intense game
The Cougars haven’t been shooting well from 3 land lately. Hopefully we can fix that or just go down low to Davies and Hartsock. We need to beat St. Mary’s and Gonzaga these next two games.
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that's not even Jazz related
It’s garbage, anything to do with the “Y” is garbage.
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This is a conversation between king.nothing and I
We aren’t trolling or spamming so just step off and go read the rest of the comments if you are jealous of BYU.
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hardly jealous of that program
Having fun playing independently in all of your athletics against high school teams? lulz.
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Why the hate, seriously? If they were talking about Penn State, would you care?
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Everyone, settle down
Keep it civil please. Thanks.
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
raja just tried to spin and pull a Kobe???????
gogo old man!
Barbosa killed Howard in the 2nd qtr...
He needs to fare a lot better right here.
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That was a crazy slow spin move by Raja... travelled if no charge.
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beautyful D from Raja on that one
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:45 PM MST reply actions
Barbosa trying to take over again,
Just need to stop him a couple of times and discourage him.
reason to start a fake trade rumor
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don't agreee... he just does so much things, rebounds, assists, he takes a lot of the playmaking responsabilty when he´s in
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:48 PM MST up reply actions
He is overplaying just a little bit.
He needs to chill just a little bit. Let the game come to him. But he does make a lot of good passes, and gets boards. He is playing much better than how Raja was at the beginning of the year.
Toronto announcer just bashed Raja
Based on his college days…
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KANTER WOW
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Kanter is learning how to play in the NBA
yes, that’s right, just dunk it.
He really is.
It has been fun to watch. I just love that he looks better and better.
My stream loaded at the perfect time
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It's been ugly as can be after the first 8 mins
But I feel confident going into the 4th
Another Kanterdunk!
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Holy bad call. Lower your shoulder, run into the defender. Foul.
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Wow, Kanter
You’re scaring me as well with those monster dunks. He needs more playing time!
Blocked!
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KANTER BLK.
THIS IS GREAT FOR HIM!
look at the development!
Great game for Kanter
Agreeing with the Toronto announcers, the kid is raw talent right now. Give him time to mold it and to let it catch up with his effort and he is going to be something huge in this league.
what's remarkable
is how little ball he has played over the last couple of years
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Enes block!!
the kid is playing with heart on both ends, love it!!
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 8:51 PM MST reply actions
Everyone get out of the way when Kanter dunks
Or else you’ll get posterized, big time.
good move kanter!
don’t wry about getting blocked like that, keep it up!
Who blocks Kanter?
Just give him some fuel…
Easier to give the time to Kanter tonight w/ Al out.
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haha
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Wow...
I thought Favors was going to break the rim on that fast break.
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Gotta hit rim favs
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I like bargani in our team
because he is white
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kanter...4 raptors and only 2 jazz back including urself..
wait for ur teammates until u make a move XD
Nice CJ
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shoot those 3's the rest of the night Dinasaurs
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Raja to the locker room
And PUT EM ON YOUR BACK, CEEJ
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Maaaaaaaann CJ
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CJ's been quite consistent
He’s kinda changed his game as well. Attacking more now.
Tazz...
How do you feel about him going to the rim?
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I'm all for it
He’s been either getting close basket shots or getting to the line. And by attacking, it keeps the defense off guard as well. So, I think what he’s doing is good for the team.
jazz did a good job with the double team
who’s worse at passing out of a double team…
big al or bargnani? haha
Barnagi is TALL
that turnaround is a tough shot there
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I'd think the up and under stepthrough would probably be effective there
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was thinking the same
turn around and face up
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Paul's been fine from the parts of the game that I've seen.
He’s had some bad shots but he’s forced some too.
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What up doe
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The MGD guy... yeah. Sounds like a bad Dickie V. That's bad.
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Yeah... good for him though
Just hope always sucks against us :)
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Phil Johnson said in pregame in regards to that
“America’s a great place isn’t it.”
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Speaking of Jimmer...
Anyone going to the game on Saturday?
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Get that garbage out of here
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How much? Where?
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For a Dunker… probably $160 (face value) for the pair
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Haha I'm looking for Upper Bowl seats
Poor college student here. Thanks though.
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Canadians complimenting Utahans
SO MUCH POLITENESS
Love watson
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuu............
Bargnani is killing us from 3. I would have been pissed if that Klieza shot went in.
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Sap didn't even attempt to raise his arms
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:05 PM MST up reply actions
Lets take care of the ball please
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Wow that was close
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earl is not cutting it tonight
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:05 PM MST reply actions
DID I JUST HEAR THAT RIGHT?
Did the Raps play by play just say ‘s**t out of a cannon?’
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Sounded very much like another word for poop to me
Ehhh, I am Australian.
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it would have been cool if he did tho!
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Hey guys
Just barely started watching. Toronto announcers make me want to punch somebody.
"Everyone wants to throw dirty on us"
I swear they weren't that bad in the first 20 minutes or so
Then flipped a switch to “moron homers”
Raps see Watson/Hayward together and immediately go into a zone
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take earl out plase!!!!
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:08 PM MST reply actions
We need a bucket
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Sap lost the easiest layup ever
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:10 PM MST reply actions
Sapman
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Millsap bailed us there,
man, that was awesome
our defensive rebounding has been pretty poor tonight, lots of long rebounds
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:11 PM MST reply actions
That move by Millsap was impossible
He had to beat 2 defenders. One with a pump fake, the other barely getting by and making it on the other side of the rim…
faced up on Bargnani the last couple of times
nice
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put cj in and take out hayward imo
no offense to hayward
tonight has been more like...
no offense BY Hayward
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Usually in these situations we go to Big Al
want to see who the Jazz will go to. So far it’s been Millsap.
oh crap
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Air Harris, doing the same thing again
kekeke…feel good about our D with Favors in.
Those guys been so biased against Favors
I’m serious, they should’ve called a foul prior to the charge. No call, and they call a charge on this?!!
BUCKLE UP GUYS!!
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:15 PM MST reply actions
good idea to take it in favors
but i don’t get these charges…
why not just stop and put up a little floater over the defender instead of running into him? I don’t mean just Favors, but everytime i see charges like this
0ur bench sucks tonight
big time
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beacuse he's better and smarter
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
I agree with Harpring
“Gotta go with Millsap here”
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the refs hate favors
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:17 PM MST reply actions
MILLSLAPPED!!!!!!!!!!!
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SAP is clutch
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it didn't seem travel to me at least
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:20 PM MST up reply actions
Harris with the cut to the rim!
We just gotta stop the 3 on the other end.
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Glad we are yelling his name for the right reasons this game!
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He shoots a lot of those. Gotta be near the top of the league.
Still only worth one shot though.
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It's sure looking like it.
Nice that the Jazz have enough depth to make up for an off game by one of their PGs.
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Millsap and Harris started off the team
Now they’re finishing it.
Double jinx. Ridiculous.
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Jerk
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i feel bad for bashing on harris...
but then again he’s been very inconsistent. I hope this game starts a trend of consistent solid play!
OMG Calderon
Crap, crap, crap, CRAP!
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How lame
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F**K
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go go go go
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:22 PM MST reply actions
just saw that as well
ouch…look like they’re a bit rusty back from 3 days off.
Al would destroy Barnagni
or however the hellz you spell it – good game – let’s win it
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Toronto feed hasn't shown the Millsap replay. Was it 100% a foul?
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The Jazz feed showed Millsap's off hand being hooked
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time for execution Jazz!!
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:23 PM MST reply actions
Why the hell did we not call a time-out and set something up?
For being a team that is so good at inbound plays, I can’t figure out why we never call time-out in these situations.
I am just happy it got in Millsap's hands.
That is where it needed to be. It is on the Refs.
Man harris hit rim bro
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Why the hell did we not call a time-out and set something up?
For being a team that is so good at inbound plays, I can’t figure out why we never call time-out in these situations.
Thing is Jazz need CJ or someone who will slash
Hayward and Bell right now, it’s hard to expect any production from them. Meaning all the pressure is on Favors and Millsap to do something.
I don't get how that's Toronto's ball?
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These refs confuse me
by Pasta_Champion on Jan 25, 2012 9:26 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
The ball bounced out of bounds first, before it hit DeRozen
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Right... they were likely reviewing the wrong part of it
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Can we hit the rim in overtime?
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Hayward has no confidence in his shot
come on precious
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Hayward shooting way out of rhythm
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Yikes... Jazz need a comeback
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I think I'd trust 'Sap more than anyone else on our team from outside of 20'
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Probably fair.
Would be nice to see Burks get a chance to be that shooter.
The Jazz suck at shooting the three ball.
And they’re even worse at defending it.
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Burks or a CJ might be a better option
if they can slash and create
and he misses
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Bargnani falls constantly. Floppiest big guy since Divac
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give credit to Ty
for letting the starters win or lose this
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I don't see why that deserves credit
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dont get that
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:31 PM MST up reply actions
you have to give your starters a chance to win it
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Disagree. Ride the guys who are playing well.
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that's why they're the starters
if they can’t then maybe you make changes . . .
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It doesn't matter who starts, it matters who finishes.
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Were you saying that when Watson was staying in at the ends of games?
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i didn't say i thought watson should be in
for that very reason
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No, I mean the last 3 games when Watson finished the game.
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Maybe it was last 1 game?
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just don't think CJ or Burkes would be better than Hayward right now
but they just as well could. Ty showing some confidence in Gordon. but seriously, after this game, there might need to be a change in the starting line up with Gordo.
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I just don't think it matters who starts.
Back when Raja was starting and was awful, I don’t think anyone wanted him on the floor at the end.
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Ugh... FTs now... problem...
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Seriously. Is he not allowed to make contact at all? No hand check, no moving into the guy... nothing.
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he drove him straight across to the sideline, CAldo couldn't turn the corner
That’s just defense
I'll make it coach.
espeically at times like this
refs can’t do that to the game….just no….
If i wanted to watch referees,
I’d pay to watch referees.
Actually, I’d kill myself.
"Everyone wants to throw dirty on us"
Man, in all honesty Jazz don't deserve to win
Raps have shown more determination and energy.
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cmon cmon
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Guessing something good's coming
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Hayward has been absolutely brutal tonight...
Thank goodness for ’Sap
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WOW
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wut happened to bargnani? he's OUT
threw his mouthpiece in disgust…
he injure himself?
Should that have been an offensive goaltending?
Not that I want it to be but…..
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whiskey tango foxtrot
Same guy that threw 43 points down on us, he nails a crucial 3…
by KaBar6 on Jan 25, 2012 9:35 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
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A long time ago, it was sad, and yeah, a random jazz killer
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alklsdjflak;dsjf
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lol hey now
he’s just doing his job =p unfortunately…
Millsap needed to be closer to him. Don't respect Kleiza's drive. At all.
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Yeah when Sidney had to tell Ty to call it???
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Millsap hit clutch FTs.
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Leaving the thread...some people are ahead of my feed
Back when its over
Im so nervous!!!
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Yeah, bad shot selection. Kinda bad play too. Not much space to work with.
Picked up his dribble & got stuck w/ no one else around… problems.
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Good news... the Jazz need a 3.
We have been dynamite from out there tonight.
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but only because I drank the other half
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man...
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I'd still go for the 2 here
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I mean... go to Millsap for the 3... of course.
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
"Everyone wants to throw dirty on us"
MILSAP HAS TO BE A FREAKING ALL STAR
HOLY CRAP!!!!!
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You gotta be kidding me! i love me some Sap!!
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MY SON SHALL BE NAMED PAUL
(if I ever have one)
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I got goosebumps for days!
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Am I the only one who thought Kleiza's shot was going in for sure?
What is it with that guy and the Jazz.
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Not for sure, but definitely anxious about it
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Reminds me of those commercials
Those commercials of the guy on a golf course who gets hit in the head by the ball no matter where he goes…that’s like Kleiza and the hoop when he plays us.
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It sure looked like it.
Thought “oh no” until I saw that it missed.
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HARRIS WAS ROBBED
That first free throw should’ve gone in.
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Millsap stepback three... wow... still feeling a little light headed
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It wasn't really like Miami because this one was creating his own shot.
The stepback is much much harder than the spot up 3s.
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Hey, that shot might crack Sportcenter's top 10 plays
Of course if it was Blake Griffin, it would #1!!
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If it was Griffin,
Every ESPN employee would simultaneously orgasm.
"Everyone wants to throw dirty on us"
go jazz!!! let's get this one
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 PM MST up reply actions
coach
outside of Millsap, our offense is trash. Please substitute accordingly.
Why doesn't Millsap shoot more threes?
He clearly has the range. If he consistently hit threes, he would be unstoppable.
Gotta make that Bell
Good look by Harris.
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i dont like blaming coachin for losing games, but way he has substituted
today is only reason this game got close. that 2nd quarter should have seen timeouts and starters moved back in way before the lead disappeared
Kleiza airball! SWEET
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Bell + Hayward isn't a good combo
We need someone who’ll slash. Or Harris needs to slash.
Why CJ is on the bench I don't know...
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Atta boy DH
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Harris can beat Calderon anyday,
He needs to keep on attacking.
Toronto commentators just said "very basketball savvy crowd here in Salt Lake"
Just a note for the FanPost commentors who say otherwise…
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Ugh, sloppy...
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Someboyd else must step up
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Funnel middle
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Ugh
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Hayward is playing out of control
He needs to slow down and play patient
Calderon has 5... Harris needs to drive on him
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Seems like a lot of contact under the rim that isn't getting called.
Which is fine if you don’t call ticky tack fouls on Harris on the perimeter.
Coach needs to pull Hayward,
He’s not playing with any confidence.
He's getting boards, and giving defensive effort.
But he isn’t helping on offense.
score?? don't want to look
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by Jazzfan_in_Chile on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 PM MST reply actions
You. Can't. Be. Serious
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He just threw that shit up there
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Boy
I have really been disappointed in our offense
Yup, unfortunately.
Bad shots, no movement.
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Blaming this one on Corbin..subsitutions are nonsensical
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This is 100% on Corbin
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Um, Al's out, guys
Remember that. It’s thrown the rotations.
Also: Ty’s not the one getting blocked repeatedly
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fk this game
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Love it!
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Huge FTs
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And... that's not clutch. At all.
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Maybe
we should have Millsap shoot the final shot.
Just a thought.
"Everyone wants to throw dirty on us"
Remember that question about who loses the most time w/ Howard coming back?
Yeah…
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Amir Johnson holding his junk
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Damn, and this is our designated tech FT shooter?
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how do you miss free throws?
Pathetic. Another reason why he doesn’t get my Allstar vote.
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If we could hit our FT's we would have won this in regulation
Just Sayin’
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Why isn’t Earl in?
"You are every bit as good as everyone else, but not one bit better."
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I’ll take him at point over Harris in the clutch
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Me too, but Harris was one of the few being aggressive out there.
Actually wish he’d been more aggressive and taken it to the hole more often. Calderon didn’t want to foul out. Harris could go by him whenever he wanted. But still, he earned those FTs by being aggressive.
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Oh harris...
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Jazz shot
67% from the line. That’s called rust. They’re not focused. Took that 3 day rest and it did no good. You can tell how focused a team is by their freethrows.
So much for the "disadvantage of B2Bs"
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this announcer is stupid
free-throws are on highlights a lot….
Well im gone...i can only take so much
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Harris was a big part of keeping the Jazz in it... but still... pain
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In his defense
No one else is creating anything offensively
offensively
shows how important Al is for the moment
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F...
Kudos to the Raps… they fought tonight. Deserved the W.
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Yep
They did a great job on the second game of a B2B
…maybe Al means more to this team than some people give him credit for?
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He's huge for us...
Not just what he does, but puts Favors in the 2nd unit and completely changes their look.
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So weird not to foul there
I was completely wrong on my prediction here. Trap game indeed.
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Yeah, and we shot 67%
only if we had taken care of business and made a respectable close to 80% from the line.
I don't really think more than 75% is realistic for this Jazz team
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Well,
when we’re a focused team, we generally shoot around 78-79%. Just saying.
Josh Howard and Raja Bell are the only 2 guys shooting over 75%.
So how does that work?
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hopefully
this isn’t the start of a long march through February.
peace out all. good game . . . tough loss.
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well
I heard that deron williams character wants a trade out of NJ if he can’t get dwight. Maybe he’d settle for millsap? :P
Weird game
That first quarter was a curse almost, but I think Ty kept in our 2nd unit far too long in the 2nd quarter, and that was what killed any flow and momentum for a while.
man....
coulda tied the game with those free throws. that hurts.
Love harris for having a good game....harris and Ty to blame
hate him for not hitting big FT’s…which is what good players do
TY….no changes at all? really?
That was especially surprising considering the Raps were on a B2B.
Throw new guys out there to run and bang. Guard Kleiza tight, leave most of the other guys open. Ugh. Just so frustrating.
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If there is a bright side to this
It’s that the jazz stay hungry, and don’t develop a target on their backs.
Hayward and Howard were the difference in this game
Combined 1/14, 5 TOs
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This
They played ugly, and I’d have at least liked to see Burks or Bell in there with CJ in that 2nd OT. Hayward was just not in rhythm tonight.
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Sure would have like to see more Burks
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Don't understand the Hayward move
If he’s struggling, play the hot guy. Like CJ or even Burks. Don’t understand the insistence of playing only starters.
He didn't play the starters enough in the first
We could’ve been up 30 in the 2nd had he kept the starters that whole first quarter. Gotta ‘over-run’ the hot lineup. The Jazz were absolutely killing it. He should have pulled the plug early in the 2nd (at the very least) when he saw the 2nd unit giving up the lead. Which he saw at the end of the first.
Just don’t get it. Oh well. Gotta appreciate the fight. Forced a 2nd OT, hand it to Toronto – they did play some great D down the stretch and overcame an 18 point deficit and some good home cooking early.
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Kleiza is a loser, Jazz need to just shut him down once
He thinks he can come here and dominate. He sucks generally. Just thinks he owns us some how.
Maybe it's all of his
good games against us
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Probably because he does. A lot.
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And I hate that the Jazz played him soft
I hate it when players think they can come here and do as they wish. Don’t know, maybe Corbin should’ve matched someone more quicker on him but I just don’t like his attitude.
Subsitutions killed us....
I’ll be the first to admit that Harris has been generally awful this year but…he was playing great in the 1st quarter and Corbin waited until the half was almost over before putting him back in. Then in second half Corbin waited until about the 4:00 minute mark to re-insert Harris…that must of done wonders for his confidence.
This
I’ve been trying to get people to see Corbin hasn’t really ran with ‘what is hot’ nearly as well as people seem to think. They think that just because we have been winning, but he has really killed our momentum with decisions like these over and over again this year.
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
No wing subsitutions in overtime…Raptors knew we were going to Millsap…he can only do so much. Needed C.J.‘s driving and even Howard’s vet presence (even if he was awful when he was in earlier), at least he wouldn’t look scared out there.
Howard was pretty awful. Bad D, bad shots on offense, forcing things.
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This
Surprised he was right back into his regular rotation spot. CJ shouldve been there for Howard’s first game back, he earned it, and played the best out of our wings tonight (maybe equal to Bell’s game).
We really need some consistent wing scoring. Just from one of them.
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 10:09 PM MST up reply actions
Howard was ice cold but Hayward?....2 for 14 last 2 games in 66+ minutes
0 for 7 from three last two games……..give me the vet Howard or C.J. everyday of the week.
Sure has been struggling
Probably 10 too many minutes in those. Granted, double OT pushes that a bit and I don’t mind Hayward being given the chance to play out of the slump rather than sit out of it, as Sloan would have required.
Embrace the differences, it’s been 20 years since we’ve been able to see if Sloan’s dog houses are the right way to go or not.
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 PM MST up reply actions
I don't have a big problem with him playing through it either.
But playing him so long in the 4th, plus OT, plus a chunk of 2OT? That was overkill to me.
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Agreed completely
Just trying to give you a ‘bright side’. :)
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 10:22 PM MST up reply actions
With everything else Hayward adds
Howard would have been a serious downgrade in this game.
CJ, though, would have been a better guy to have in.
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Not arguing that
But Howard was dreadful on offense and defense tonight. Hayward wasn’t.
CJ was better than both.
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I think we agree on most points..
I would have liked to see C.J. in first…but from my standpoint if it was a choice between Hayward or Howard in overtime I would of liked to have seen Howard..i want the win more than experience, Hayward can earn his experience.
This is where I disagree
Experience only comes from … playing. I want the Jazz to get Hayward and Favors as much experience as possible in big-time situations. Sometimes they’ll struggle. But if they are going to make it, they’re going to have to have the experience first.
I actually am quite happy Ty left Hayward in.
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Hayward is really killing us.
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Tough to blame Harris
I know he missed the FT’s down the stretch, but we wouldn’t have been in the game w/o his offense in the 1st half.
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Yeah, I said that earlier, I think. Can't put the game on him. At all.
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For all those blaming Ty
He didn’t miss A THIRD OF THE TOTAL of a PLUS SEVENTEEN FREE THROW ADVANTAGE
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he should've made changes...he didn't
stuck with a lineup that was going nowhere since the 4th qtr…
why not cj miles or howard?
we love hayward, but why leave him in?
by Bryan Chang on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 PM MST up reply actions
stuck with a burned out lineup
Can’t play that way
by KaBar6 on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
just got off work to see harris doink two free throws
can someone quickly explain why we couldnt beat a raptors team in regulation?
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Missing FT's
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by TazzJazzFan on Jan 25, 2012 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
His FT shooting motion looked like mine.
Maybe worse. That’s pretty bad.
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we lost to terrible free throw shooting
I would make the team hill climb with parachutes all the way up the side of the U mountain. Plus learn to guard the damn 3.
by KaBar6 on Jan 25, 2012 10:06 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Failure to guard the 3 is something I'll never understand about the Jazz.
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nobody ever will
Sloan has cursed this franchise for this very thing lol.
by KaBar6 on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Same Harris that kept us in the game in the first half?
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by TazzJazzFan on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 PM MST up reply actions
Yes, he missed FT, but he's not on his own there
And 2 – Running the point in the Jazz system is very different. He’s doing well for someone still effectively learning on the job
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by TazzJazzFan on Jan 25, 2012 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
Hayward
Hey he had a few airballs, leave him alone! He committed a charge too!
drew a charge too!
if i remember correctly
by Bryan Chang on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 PM MST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he committed 2 while I was watching.
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Agree with a lot of what's said here
Favors was also a bit frustrating on the offensive end. He was forced to make shots he really can’t make at the moment. Tough loss.
Spacing was screwy w/ him and Millsap in at the same time.
Most of these guys hadn’t played together that much, especially Favors.
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this loss is on Corbin, and FT's
our offense was garbage (outside of sap) from the beginning of the fourth quarter on…. every possession was “wait til the last 4 seconds of the shot clock and scramble”. Coach really needs to make changes at that point
exactly, put in our instant offense off the bench
CJ MILES
by Bryan Chang on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
with how bell hayward and harris were playing offensively
I would have been satisfied with Burks. anybody. Those 3 were all scared to shoot, and for good reason, they were ice cold
Counterpoint: credit the Raps D there
They are the ones forcing us to use a lot of clock looking for a good shot
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by TazzJazzFan on Jan 25, 2012 10:09 PM MST up reply actions
how many open shots
did hayward and harris pass up…..
I don't mind them passing up the shots early in the clock, personally.
Try to work for a better shot, then take those later if needed.
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oh well
for every tough loss like this, atleast i can think about it giving us a 1rst rounder
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by DWest on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
looks like im not so mad about having missed this one
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Yeah, it sucked and it was 3 hours long.
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You can still appreciate the effort and fight
On a hot night that turned suddenly to an awkward, forced tough game. Turned into kind of a complacent night after it felt so easy right off the bat. Couldn’t get in rhythm. These are games that we ‘should’ win, but the fact they fought and looked like they cared is far and away better than what D-Will, Booz and AK would give us when we stunk up the joint. They’d just check out.
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
Well from what others have said, it kinda sounds like you have to put that on Ty.
Guess he didn’t put the starters back in until really late in the 1st half. That to me puts out an air of complacency… like… we got this, we’ll let the 2nd unit get minutes.
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Remember there was no Al
So his rotations were messed up. That contributed IMO
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by TazzJazzFan on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 PM MST up reply actions
That's why he needs to adjust his rotations.
He should have recognized A. Harris was playing well (keep him in the whole 1st), B. Watson + Favors = 2nd unit studs (bring Watson in at start of 2nd, Favors in at 8-9 minute mark, to run with his normal lineups).
He went at it very stubbornly and played his bench even more loosely given the early lead, but it was obvious to anyone watching that the 2nd unit was killing the momentum. Ty really missed some EASY coaching moves and it’s disappointing, seeing how I learned these things from my H.S. coach and it is quite obvious that WHO you are playing with is a major factor.
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 10:21 PM MST up reply actions
Or he could have put the 3rd string guy in the 1st string guy's place
And keep the rest of the rotations the same. I’ve seen that happen.
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That's pretty much what it felt like
He waited far too long, and didn’t realize that Watson + Favors being on the 2nd unit TOGETHER was (is) a big reason it is so effective. Pretty obvious if you ask me, and I’m no NBA coach. Ty has this one on him, IMO.
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 PM MST up reply actions
Bad FT shooting, only 16 assists, failure to keep a high tempo, failure to go at Calderon w/ 5 fouls.
Want me to keep going?
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Does anyone think we even make it to OT without Harris?
My frustrations are much more with Hayward and Ty not subbing him out.
Yeah, the missed FTs suck, but at least Harris was doing SOMETHING on offense.
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Totally agree, and I'm a Harris basher generally
He was the reason we were killing it early. He was relentless in that opening run
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 PM MST up reply actions
Man, don't know but Hayward NEEDS to slow down a bit
Keep his composure and be patient with the game. He’s playing like a rookie. He can go back to the bench and find his comfort zone or something because I think he’s trying too hard.
Yeah
I was really optimistic about Hayward after the end of last year, but he’s playing really, really poorly.
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I'd argue he's shooting very inconsistently
But most of his play is actually rather good.
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I'd accept that
But it could be my homer glasses
by 3 in the Key on Jan 25, 2012 10:22 PM MST up reply actions
I'd aruge
though he seems to force things. At the critical juncture where he was called for an offensive foul, he should’ve just challenged the defender and went for the shot. He ALWAYS seems to drive in for the sole purpose of dishing it. He played decent defense, but he had moments where he was open and would not take the shot.
He was absolutely terrified of shooting by the mid-3rd quarter tonight
No argument from me there.
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He ends up with good numbers, but I feel like he's too often a disruptive force on offense.
Just kills the flow of the ball movement sometimes. Maybe he makes up for it with his assists and rebounds though, I dunno.
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CJ and Howard were Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum in the 2nd quarter
That lost our 20-point lead.
CJ was much better later, but they were brutal there in the 2nd. And Earl wasn’t very good tonight I thought.
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Nah he was bad tonight. That is for sure.
I am just saying that for all the ‘Hayward played terrible tonight,’ if not for a couple shots falling for CJ later in the game, he would have had a much worse game. That 2nd quarter was Fing terrible.
I dunno, he seems to be too nervous
Forcing bad decisions, passing up good shots, rushing things, etc.
I still have high hopes for him, but right now I don’t think he’s providing the Jazz with quality minutes.
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where was the rotation?
Paul needed big rest too. Should’ve subbed in for 2 minutes to try and freshen up.
by KaBar6 on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
No Al, remember.
We have 4 bigs total
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by TazzJazzFan on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 PM MST up reply actions
gah
I know, it’s tough too. Enes the Menace? Paul had 49 minutes, then Favors had 41. Too much for MANSAP, he needed some rest.
by KaBar6 on Jan 25, 2012 10:21 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I agree with this.
Too many minutes. Kanter or Evans needed more burn, even just to spell Millsap for a few minutes.
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Jazz were missing the SG and SF today
I’ll leave CJ out. All the pressure was on Millsap to do everything when the wing guys needed to in actually produce. It was one dimensional. The Raptors are a good interior team. Millsap did his best, our wings didn’t come through. 3 days rest, and they looked out of it.
Gotta give credit to the Raptors
They seemed like they really wanted this game. They fought hard and never gave up. They didn’t allow us to dominate the paint with offensive rebounds and their interior defense was really good. 10 blocks on us.
They also hit some ridiculous 3's
THAT’s really how the Jazz lost.
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maybe their determination tipped the luck towards their favor
They definitely had the mojo flowing for them
I was going to say..
they hit AT LEAST 4, very timely, 3 pointers.
Including Calderon's ... what was it, a 35-footer?
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And really bad 3 pt shooting from the Jazz.
I don’t remember too many ridiculous 3s. Just the Calderon one. The others weren’t super contested or way out. Just normal 3s that the Jazz give up all the time because they’d rather give up a 3 than a drive to the hoop, a philosophy I don’t understand. They were clutch… but not ridiculous, in my opinion.
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Kleiza hit one with Sap right in his face
He wasn’t open at all. Barely got the shot through Sap’s D. But we all know what Kleiza does against the Jazz.
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From the right elbow/wing area? Millsap wasn't that close on the replay on the Toronto feed.
Not close enough to block the shot, for sure. I’d check it tomorrow, but I decided not to get Synergy. I think.
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I look it up.
Sometimes memory is less than perfect.
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just to cheer anyone whose still here up
warriors beating blazers
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That's good. They'll end up in 8th... and then win a lottery spot. Just to screw w/ us.
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Hayward is a priority
He needs to find a comfort zone. I know he doesn’t like playing the 3 spot. I really wish we could give him the 2 spot. He needs to relax and slow the game down. He’s playing too frantic and doesn’t have the composure to take solid jump shots. If we have Hayward set, the Jazz will be harder to play.
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