Game 27 Game Day Preview / Game Thread: Utah Jazz @ New Orleans Hornets
by AllThatJazzBasketball on Feb 13, 2012 5:11 PM MST
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Wow, let me be the first one to admit that I did not think that the Utah Jazz would have defeated the Memphis Grizzlies (still without Zach Randolph, but with All-Star Marc Gasol and former All-Star Rudy Gay). But they did, 98 to 88. That's a very solid road win in my books; especially since we're supposed to be one of the worst teams ever (according to preseason predictions from ESPN and other places). This Jazz team proved me wrong last night. Tonight they face off against the struggling New Orleans Hornets. New Orleans has 4 wins this year, and 23 losses. They aren't doing so hot with Chris Paul playing in Los Angeles, and David West playing in Indiana. Eric Gordon is out indefinitely. Jarrett Jack is expected to miss at least one week. Chris Kaman is questionable for tonight's game, as is Jason Smith. And Carl Landry is expected to miss about a month. The only guys averaging more than 15 mpg for the season who are healthy for tonight's game are Tervor Ariza, Marco Belinelli, Emeka Okafor, Greivis Vasquez, and Al-Farouq Aminu. Even though we're on the second night of a three game set, I think our team is more talented (right now) than the Hornets. We're also bigger (and we can't say that too frequently), as both of their 7'ers are out -- leaving them with Emeka Okafor and Gustavo Ayon to patrol the paint. If one of them gets in trouble, we could own the glass.
Of course, the alternative would be for the Hornets to go small, and they have plenty of guys who can drive, dish, and drain the three. And if I was Monty Williams -- that's exactly the type of game I would play. Tyrone Corbin doesn't seem to make adjustments (in-game) that well right now. Corbin is still figuring out the whole rotations thing too. Tonight would be a great game to get Alec Burks some playing time. But hey, that's just my crazy opinion. Jeremy Evans too.
My computer is still jacked up. And I have crazy family issues right now -- so once again, you guys are getting a combined Game Preview / Game Thread. Things will normalize very soon though.
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Is the a post a few months back that has all of the "experts" season predictions in one place?
I’ve tried finding them on ESPN/SI/etc… archives but with no luck. It would be fun to compare as we progress through the season.
those articles have a funny way of disappearing when proven wrong
For example, one week ago I saw a prominent sport site’s power rankings list the Knicks quite low (fair enough) while taking a dig at the team starting Jeremy Lin. As soon as Lin blew up over a few games, that line dissing him magically vanished. Hmmm…. #journalism
Let's be honest
There’s only so much a national sportswriter will know about the not-so-prominent teams. It’s just how it is.
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This is a game the Jazz should win.
It’s also the kind of game mediocre teams regularly lose. Let’s hope for the win.
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poor hornets
There is no one in the stands
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 6:12 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
I'm not gonna lie
These hornets unis are sweet.
by Kfunk on Feb 13, 2012 6:12 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Those unis are hideous
worse than the Memphis ones
Utah>*
lol
I didn’t hate the Memphis ones either.
by Kfunk on Feb 13, 2012 6:14 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agreed
Second night in a row of ugly unis
95% chance Thunder dress in Halloween colors or something
c'mon guys
Is Harris the only one that came to play?
by Kfunk on Feb 13, 2012 6:15 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Nice to see we continue to play teams with horribly disgusting unis
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do the whistles not work for the away team?
by Kfunk on Feb 13, 2012 6:18 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
I can't tell if my broadcast is in Spanish or French
I’m such a provincial American.
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That may be the worst I've ever seen.
NO has no business having a team. Jazz failed. Hornets failed.
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No doubt about it.
Maybe they could give Seattle another chance.
Utah>*
Nice of our guys to play lethargically
You know—to give NO a sporting chance.
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Seems like there are more ushers, players, and coaches than fans in NO tonight.
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How does this team stay in NO?
Only tragedy is that it’s new location won’t also steal on Nawlins themed name
Would love to see them get back to Seattle, or give Anaheim a chance.
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True... as much as I hate LAL I can't blame them for living in a popular city
I can however blame them for being douches.
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I hope not.
They have a loyal, genuine fanbase, much like ours. I would hate to see those fans lose their team.
"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK
better see some Tinsley and Evans
Ty better rotate our guys, or they’ll get gassed
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 6:29 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Wow
Five Jazz fans. They outnumber the Hornets fans.
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Kanter is learning how to create space
foul there and one last game as well but, good to see him initiating contact on the offensive end.
Wow
I go to stir the spaghetti and suddenly Jazz are only up 1.
Glad they’re playing down to the competition.
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so I take it Tinsley's performance in GS wasn't impressive
Or am I just missing something?
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 6:38 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Yeah, he gets paid about $425k per year
just to watch the game from the team’s bench. He even gets to travel with them! Lucky guy, that JeMarcus Evings.
"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK
NO roster may be the worst team the Jazz have ever played
And they’re leading by 3. That’s all you need to know.
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To be fair
we were dominating when our starters were in
Utah>*
My heavens.
We were winning until I turned the game on. Should I leave?
"Everyone wants to throw dirty on us"
Ty needs to bench the guys that can't produce
I know it’s a stretch, but bench a few guys for an entire quarter in hopes that will “wake them up”
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 6:48 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
I think they're just running out of ideas
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 6:50 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
First half of the first Q
was pretty nice
Utah>*
Starters sucking? #freealecburks
Bench sucking? #freealecburks
Your name is Tyrone Corbin? #freealecburks
I'm waiting for Bellinelli to shout out "YO ADRIAN!"
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 6:54 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
The foul disparity is ridiculous
The refs have completely swallowed their whistles whenever the Jazz have the ball
@BravetheEarth
time for the bench
We need fresh legs
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 6:59 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
This is mind blowing
I can’t be mad because the Jazz have had 5 good inside shots in a row. They just keep rolling out.
Maybe jacking 3’s is the right strat…
The starters need to come out in the 2nd half with some fire...
if not give the young’ns a chance. It’s not like they are going to be over matched w/ NOH talent level.
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geez that makes sense
sad that it will never happen. There’s no way Burks and Evans and Tinsley could play any worse….36 points in a half….seriously?
As good as Hayward looked last night, it is criminal that he had 3 shots in the first half.
I blame everyone involved.
Hayward has to take some of the blame
He’s had open looks on the arc and passed them up on a number of occassions
Ha... j/k that's Bill Kennedy...
I saw Gregory Hines and thought Greg Kinear. My bad.
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I also should point out that Pat Fraher looks like neither Gregory Hines, or Greg Kinear.
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Hmmm....
Might be a stretch… maybe a distant cousin?
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Also...
not all white people look alike moni!
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Although I do think he looks EXACTLY like Obba Babatunde from an early episode of Friends:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0044762/
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Well I'm going to go grab some food, hopefully the bench will be back in by the time I return
Utah>*
A close game with the hornets?
Oh really?
by utahjazz-philippines on Feb 13, 2012 7:08 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I'm glad all the announcers are calling out Raja's flop
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 7:14 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Trying to find a positive: Al is playing well tonight, and not just as a shot hogging wheezy machine
He has been involved in steals, just blocked Kaman, and is working on the boards. Particularly after making big claims last night about playing to win, it’s nice to see him walk the talk.
I bet its pimpin by now.
He’s had a ton of time to work on it.
Utah>*
0 movement on offense.
It doesn’t even look like a case of dead legs. Just no one cares.
It doesn't help that our least motivated/laziest guy is also our PG
I strongly believe a good distributing and defensive PG would make this team better than an upgrade at any other position
According to Locke: Hornets run is 21 to 4 from 2nd q to 3rd q all of it against Harris, Bell, Hayward, Millsap and Jefferson
Geez, you’d think Coach Ty would make a sub. We give the guy a lot of praise for his smart decisions, but right now he’s looking a bit like a goat.
Have to lean on the vets to get these tough wins.
Against the worst team in the league. This is seriously embarrassing.
Devin Harris. You're not a 3 point shooter. You're meant to drive.
Ugh, a fun night just became an exercise in frustration.
Favors just missed from 1 inch away
Time to enact the mercy rule. This can’t be allowed to continue. It’s a crime against professional sports.
Please
Tinsley, Burks, Hayward, Evans, Favors
Utah>*
Nice to see Greg Miller and his wife/kids got their votes in for the poll
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oh? Just got home... it's like 2 ugly mud wrestlin... you may not wanna, but know your gonna\
@terrillntaylor I rarely say funny stuff, but when I do...
I'm blaming this loss on Ty
Too much of a Sloanish game
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 7:39 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
100% agree
I mean yes, a lot of the player’s didn’t come to play. But the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. Starters got blown out in first half, yet Ty just keeps on grinding them.
Let the kids play. It’s not rocket science. #$@^#$^&^&*%^ this has been frustrating to watch.
seriously, let the kids play
Going to start calling him TySloan Corbin.
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 7:42 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
When we only scored 36 in the first half I thought..we couldn't play any worse
Now the third is leaving me to wonder..what could the 4th quarter possibly bring?
We want Evans, Tinsley,
Ty, you are failing as a coach. This game is all on you buddy
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 7:46 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Starters don't deserve to be let back in
Let the subs play the rest of the game.
If the starters return Ty is officially a bad coach
This game is a loss unless the bench provide a miraculous spark. Save the vet’s legs for tomorrow. It shouldn’t even need to be said, but the way coach favours the older guys…
along those lines
bring in Tinsley, give him some time and rest Watson as well
he better not
This squad is getting us back in the game
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 7:52 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't think we're going to outrun NO now
need someone to execute half court offense..Just my opinion from Tinsley’s one game with real minutes.
if Burks comes off the floor
I will personally deliver a bag of my own feces to corbin
by zdid on Feb 13, 2012 7:47 PM MST via Android app reply actions
Ty is a liar
He said at the beginning things are going to be different, like saying guys who work the hardest will get playing time.
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 7:50 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
haha TySloan, eat your own words
I thought Tinsley showed up for Golden State, coach must be blind.
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 7:57 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
You know, it's been lost in the shuffle because the Jazz have played like trash, but the ref's tonight aren't helping
They’re calling anything inside, and the eye-test would suggest there is hardly contact most of the time.
YOU GET A DUNK, and YOU GET A DUNK, and YOU GET A DUNK!!!!
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What will the nba headline look like after this game?
by utahjazz-philippines on Feb 13, 2012 7:53 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Bench comes in, we make a run.
That could have been useful before the game possibly got out of reach.
this was supposed to be a reply to
utahjazz-philippines
Utah>*
3 seconds is still a violation right?
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pretty sure this one's over
would love to be proven wrong, but there hasn’t been anything to suggest otherwise. even the starters are sitting on the bench looking content, as if it’s fine to lose to a 4 win team. super unhappy with the team tonight.
I hated him at Maryland...
now I hate him in New Orleans.
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I don't. I hate the way our team is playing.
And Coach Ty’s rotations.
"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK
al the normal ways
lack of effort, sloppy passes, missing multiple shots from 1 foot out, general laziness, coach not changing things up
That's why I think a Burks/Hayward backcourt can work.
That was beautiful.
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He has not made a single mistake yet
I feel so bad for the kid mentally. Plays the very best he can then gets sat for 3 games for no reason. I hope he has some good friends/mentors on the team that keep his spirits up.
Even though it wasn't finished
that pass was so nice I’m happy with this game
Utah>*
Kanter is working Kaman well off the ball
I really really like the dude. Favors has yet to impress me (love the kid and have high hopes, but he isn’t there yet) but Kanter, after not playing in oh so many years, has some real skills.
Just tuned into the game.
What am I missing? Other than we are losing.
it's a hit or miss to tune this game out
We may make a big comeback, so who knows…
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 8:09 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Burks, G Time, Evans, Favors, Kanter
would like to see line up a few times, or even sub in CJ for Evans.
Utah>*
I like it.
Burks isn’t a true PG but Hayward creates enough play to make up for it.
by king.nothing on Feb 13, 2012 8:08 PM MST up reply actions
How can he
when in every single interview KOC talks about competing, young guys have to earn their minutes, we are not rebuilding, etc.
I missed when Burks was first put in
but everything I’ve seen has been very in control.
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If the only thing to come out of tonight is that Burks starts getting consistent minutes every night
Then it all would’ve been worth it. But I highly doubt that will happen. #joshhowardFOREVER
Burks rarely looks terrible when he plays.
I don’t have any idea what he needs to do to earn consistent playing time. His minutes are so limited in most games, it is hard for him to do much with them.
Burks in and out on free throw
And Ty will now take his minutes away.
Nah
we should try to get Will Ferrell to announce the starters for us though.
by king.nothing on Feb 13, 2012 8:13 PM MST up reply actions
How much bigger do you think Burks can get?
Seems like if he could bulk up more he would absorb contact a little better on the drive.
Not too much better
Wouldn’t want him to lose his speed.
by king.nothing on Feb 13, 2012 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
If this group close the gap and Ty puts the starters back in....
…I’m going to start going for the Thunder. I need some W’s in my life.
Jazz fans would break the internet if that happened.
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Hopefully it will empower Corbin to yank the vets a little quicker when they're stinking
This team has a very small formula to win games, we can’t have people on the floor giving poor effort.
Mine's okay
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/107582/3/watch-new-orleans-hornets-vs-utah-jazz.html
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burks is so much better than howard....
by rbmw263 on Feb 13, 2012 8:12 PM MST via Android app reply actions
6/11 fts in this quarter is killer
could be down four
by rbmw263 on Feb 13, 2012 8:13 PM MST via Android app reply actions
GOOD STUFF HAYWARD 2 BURKS
idc if he missed the dunk, great team work
Kaman is building up that trade value.
He wants to be on a title contender.
We tend to elevate other players trade value.
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He'd be happy with a team that can win double figures.
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In my Jazz 2k12 franchise Burks develops into a scoring master.
He leads the league in scoring and FTA’s per game and has developed to be pretty much Dwayne Wade-lite. Plus he signed a bargain 5 year/$40mill contract!
I traded Harris & Al for Rondo & O'Neal.
Great minds think alike. Rondo is a stealing machine in that game.
Wow... I'm w/ Boler...
I don’t see the ball hitting Earl
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This Brooks kid is pretty good.
When did we sign him?
Pssssst
You think Tinsley would of earned minutes after his start.
by king.nothing on Feb 13, 2012 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
Not only is he scoring
but putting in good effort around the boards and following up on the offensive glass looking for rebounds
And he's looking for passes
Really all-around nice game from him.
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Starters
The group on the floor has done nothing to gain minutes after the 4th quarter buzzer. Not tonight, not tomorrow. Only safe man is Hayward.
by king.nothing on Feb 13, 2012 8:23 PM MST up reply actions
Kaman you have channeled your inner Shaq all night
Now channel that FT attempt Shaq.
Easiest
… and quickest shot they can get. Doesn’t matter the value.
That is probably what I was getting at.
In a very round about way.
put Millsap in for the 3 point shot
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 8:23 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
if we lose, it will be the happiest loss ever
i love the play of the jazz young guys
we were down by 20?
i started watching late
Jazz bench has scored 41
That means the starters have scored 39.
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They are raw
But the future looks good.
by king.nothing on Feb 13, 2012 8:25 PM MST up reply actions
Does it bother anyone else that 'Sap, Al, and Howard look so disinterested on the bench?
Or am I just picking nits?
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It bothers me
I don’t know if it actually matters, but it bugs me.
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Me too
Act like they don’t care what the bench does for them.
by king.nothing on Feb 13, 2012 8:26 PM MST up reply actions
Especially when you see guys like Tinsely and Evans up and rooting on their teammates...
I know that as a fan I am overly passionate about this team. I just wish our two “all-star snubs” shared that passion at times. Especially Paul.
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Almost Every NBAer
… looks dispassionate or detached on the bench. They’re paid to play, all think they should/could be on the floor forever. It’s why the very few regular towel-wavers – Tony Allen, Patty Mills etc. – are so conspicuous.
I get that they want to be on the floor...
but when they clearly don’t deserve to be (like tonight) don’t be afraid to support the guys that you go into war with every night.
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What's the over/under on minutes for Burks tomorrow?
I think I’ll set it at 5, and take the under.
"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK
He'll get a token 2 minutes to end the 2nd quarter
And then maybe garbage minutes to end the game when we get blown out by 100
Was going to post that.
3 people beat me to it.
NICE SHOT DOE
Really Ty? You suck.
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 8:27 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions
well it was fun to watch the kids take over
wish the team would have played harder before we stuck our selves in a 20 pt hole
I am happy Kanter, Favors, and Burks look pissed they lost
They cared
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Absolutely
I’ll take this as a moral victory for the young guns
Utah>*
With the exception of the final 6 minutes (see Burks, Alec)
the Jazz just set back the game of basketball by years.
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hahaha, hold my clip board Alex...
by KaBar6 on Feb 13, 2012 8:35 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
would love to hear that
there’s got to be a weird vibe in there between the vets and the youngsters
No doubt
And you honestly have to group Watson with the youngsters. If I was the youngsters, I would be complaining about the bench reactions, the support from the staff to not play them, etc.
by king.nothing on Feb 13, 2012 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
who was on the floor in the 3rd qtr?
wasn’t able to watch
Burks with highest +/- of +11
And with the second least amount of minutes at 14 (jhoward had 13)
Utah>*
which is more than the entire
starting unit combined
Utah>*
If we were only down by 14
Corbin would of yanked the youngsters once they got it back within 8.
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