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Historic Rivals of the Utah Jazz: The Houston Rockets

Back when the Western Conference was just two divisions large the NBA was a much different product. Back then you had the silky smooth showtime Los Angeles Lakers led Pacific division that featured a lot of fast breaks and three point shots (I'm looking at you Phoenix Suns), and the 'other' division that soon enough became known as the "Wild West" division. Among the top rivalries the Jazz have had against teams in their own conference the vast majority of them have been against teams from their original Midwest conference. Team expansion, franchise movement, and divisional realignment have changed things somewhat; however, if I was to list the top Rivals for the Jazz franchise (in no order) they would be the Denver Nuggets, Portland Trailblazers, Seattle Supersonics / Oklahoma City Thunder, Houston Rockets, and Los Angeles Lakers. Sorry, San Antonio -- you guys were nothing before you tanked for Tim Duncan, and Malone used to punk Misses Robinson in the playoffs by himself. Also sorry to Sacramento -- your Chris Webber / Mike Bibby days were great, but it's not like you were a problem for us until our core was old and on the precipice of retiring.

The Nuggets, Trail Blazers, Thunder, Rockets, and Lakers are our biggest historical rivals. Today we take a look at the very franchise we face off against tonight: the Houston Rockets.

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I Hate the Houston Rockets

Let's start things off with me saying "I hate the Houston Rockets." I detest them, not because they were a good team, and not because they won two rings in the two years Michael Jordan was busy making errors in Double A baseball leagues. I don't like them because, among other things, they ushered in the stand and watch offense that so many teams adopted and used in the next few season. You know the dump it into Hakeem, and surround him with 4 three point shooters . . . and just wait. But hey, why mess with what works right -- how else would you make NBA careers for guys like Matt Bullard and Chase Budinger? (You know, the guy picked to dunk over Jeremy Evans) Their offense sucked, and was super dependent upon one guy using superior skills and athleticism to make his own shot in an isolation format. Yes, they ran the same offense that all those other teams do, like the Hawks with Joe Johnson, that's boring and not at all efficient. Iso for your best guy, and hope something happens.

That's not team basketball. Even Tex Winter's triangle gets three guys a chance to do something with the ball. The Flex offense needs everyone to work. I guess the Flex is what you run when you're not trying to play favorites, and sharing the ball. These iso heavy offenses are what you do when you build your team around one dude and four specialists. Maybe it's sour grapes because they have two rings with their cheap system; and we have zero with our "everyone gets to pass and shoot" kiddie offense.

But then again, it's not like the Rockets killed us except for that horrible two year stretch when we started Felton Spencer at center.

The Playoff Series:

Jazz Rockets
1984-85 1st round Won 3 2
1993-94 3rd round Lost 1 4
1994-95 1st round Lost 2 3
1996-97 3rd round Won 4 2
1997-98 1st round Won 3 2
2006-07 1st round Won 4 3
2007-08 1st round Won 4 2
21 18

Yeah, we're 5 and 2 in playoff series' vs their "stand and watch" offense. And we're even stephen in Western Conference Finals series'. The perception is that Houston is a better team, but if we won that first WCF series who here thinks that we couldn't have also beaten those New York Knicks? Or the Orlando Magic the next season. If you look at the Jazz' record against those two teams in the mid-90s you know that Utah would have taken either of those teams too. So I guess this is all Felton Spencer's fault . . .

Moving beyond Felton Spencer, the Jazz are currently on a 4 series winning streak against the Rockettes. When they reloaded by added Charles Barkley to their crew of Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler (whom we already hate for his affiliation with the Portland Trail Blazers) we still beat them. We beat them so bad Ostertag had like a 16/14 game on Hakeem. That's a clinical punking. Ostertag didn't even have 16 points in the NBA finals -- but he put up 16 on Hakeem in one game, a series deciding game.

We dispatched them with even less fanfare the next season, in the first round.

A few seasons later we had to contest with all the media love (particularly from ESPN and TNT) the Rockets got for their Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady team -- and how T-Mac said it was all on him. And then he cried during the post game interview (why doesn't people call T-Mac a crier like they do with Andrei?). That was a great series, Mehmet Okur held Yao Ming down in single coverage, to -3 ppg from his regular season averages against the Jazz. That's critical because a) look at how close the games were, and b) holding their center down in single coverage negates their three point shooters. (See, they were running the same crappy offense since the 90s with Hakeem -- but this time we didn't have Felton Spencer in the paint, we had Memo who didn't back down from the challenge)

T-Mac couldn't do anything, even Gordan Giricek was giving him fits on defense. And Deron Williams was finding Andrei Kirilenko open for threes to turn the tide of the close out game, a road game 7, back for the good guys.


The Fans:

Ha ha ha, still love that video. Even years after . . . does that make me a bad person? Nope, bad people are the crazy, racist, homophobic, bigots that you see in Houston Rockets message boards. I'm not linking to any of them, but reading their comments about other groups / religions after Rockets losses are just appalling. Utah gets a bad rap because of a few bad apples, but I guess Houston doesn't get one for bad orchards. But hey, at least they sold a lot of jerseys in China the last few seasons.

The Future:

They have Kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, and a bunch of guys that our general manager would love to have on the depth chart ahead of Alec Burks. But their future doesn't look quite as bright as ours does. But that's not the future I was talking about. I was talking about the future, moving forward, for us Jazz fans. The last few days we've seen Jazz fans behave poorly towards one another. It's one thing to disagree, it's entirely another thing to be mean about it. If you want to look bad, and be mean, then be mean to another team's fan base -- maybe a rival group -- than to each other. See how dumb, mean, and ignorant this post made me look? That's how dumb, mean, and ignorant Jazz fans look when they argue with one another, and do so to the delight of fans of other teams.

Let's unite as Jazz fans -- we all want our team to do the best and play hard every night. And let's unite against those external threats, instead of constructing our own internal animosities.

I hate the rockets.

Luis Scola looks like he has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

Houston has a pollution problem.

Kevin Martin has funky shot mechanics.

Your logo is silly and your uniforms are ugly.

See, isn't this better than fighting over the dire specifics of how quickly or slowly to get playing time for your younger players?

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agreed. i put it in to show how dumb and mean people look when they grasp at straws to say bad things about other people.

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Feb 19, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

well, in detroit we don't even have enough industry to make pollution anymore

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Feb 19, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

To everyone who doesn't know or can't tell

This post is 100% satire.

This is what they put up every single game Jazz/Rockets game over at the Dream Shake. The one-line insults at the end of the post are about 40% as offensive/inappropriate/ignorant as their actual game thread comments.

The nastiness is truly something to behold—but only for those who are not faint of heart. Children should not venture over there, and probably not any pregnant women either.

Email: jamidget@gmail.com

by Yucca Man on Feb 19, 2012 1:31 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

hahaha Rockettes

Bunch of girly men.Their logo looks like a anal probe.

Great article.

by KaBar6 on Feb 19, 2012 1:59 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Felton Spencer?

Wait a minute. Aren’t we supposed to blame those losses on Benoit for Three!?!

by jazzpatty on Feb 19, 2012 2:40 PM MST reply actions  

it's easy to point out benoit missing all those threes in that one game

but felton got killed by hakeem all series long.

benoit missed getting us something like 9 to 12 points.

felton gave up 12 points a game (due to not being able to defend his man, and also by needing a double which gave Hou an open three)

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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Feb 19, 2012 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Not arguing with your point

but Benoit clanking all those 3’s in that one game was pretty significant.

by jazzpatty on Feb 19, 2012 3:36 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe he can take some blame for 94

But if he didn’t go down injured in 95 I think the Jazz have a championship. He was never the same player after that injury…. He was vastly underrated. I think at the time Karl made a comment that he was a hugely important piece for the Jazz, but I can’t remember the specifics of that…

by sherbs on Feb 19, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't hate the Rockets.

I hate losing to them, though, because of TDS.

"Shoot baskets, not people." -AK

by DWest on Feb 19, 2012 2:46 PM MST reply actions  

The video posted on TDS's preview is hilarious.

And I didn’t hate the rockets until I learned about TDS

by dwillforlife on Feb 19, 2012 3:00 PM MST reply actions  

I don't even bother going there anymore

Yeah I hate the Rockets, but at most other team sites on SB nation you can actually have a civilized discussion and learn more about the other team etc. All I ever got from TDS was a torrent of abuse – I believe in response to me saying what a great player I thought Kevin Martin was and that I would have loved to have seen the Jazz get him.

by sherbs on Feb 19, 2012 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

United Jazz fan here

Always stick with the Jazz and the general fan base. :)
Sometimes the team makes bad decisions, but always support them in general.
Keep posting the Jazz greater than the Rockets threads.

oh yea …. the jazz didn’t waive Lin. :)

by Russell Kanning on Feb 19, 2012 5:56 PM MST reply actions  

your a whore slc....

and so is your bitch mother :)

Dirt dog pimp

by jahunter221 on Feb 20, 2012 5:14 AM MST via Android app reply actions  

you can't troll a troll bait thread.

Jazz fan who lives in Detroit. Stats guy. Photoshop novice. Likes to make the pass to the guy who gets the assist. Questions? Comments? Concerns? Get at me:
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by AllThatJazzBasketball on Feb 20, 2012 4:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you underestimate me

But I’m not really interested in getting banned so…

Check out The Dream Shake.

by Patrick Harrel on Feb 20, 2012 5:35 PM MST up reply actions  


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